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SmartMuffin
03/30/20 12:15:42 PM
#52:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUXq2FXWoAM4AJ3?format=jpg&name=medium

This is how Trump won last time, and how he might win again. He doesn't have to run against Biden, only against the media - who are basically the only people in all of society even more despised than he is.

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Jakyl25
03/30/20 12:21:37 PM
#53:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUXq2FXWoAM4AJ3?format=jpg&name=medium

This is how Trump won last time, and how he might win again. He doesn't have to run against Biden, only against the media - who are basically the only people in all of society even more despised than he is.


Agreed. He accurately points out how shitty the media is, then creates a false dichotomy where he is the antidote, and people then take sides instead of realizing that both are awful
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Kinglicious
03/30/20 1:02:07 PM
#54:


Yeah, our media IS shit and he IS right to put them on blast so often and call them fake. He's probably right over half the time when it comes to their dishonest or just being shit. It's genuinely entertaining when it's Q&A time to see who's getting insulted next and how because very often the questions just suck.

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Kenri
03/30/20 1:32:23 PM
#55:


Except that the media Trump likes is the shittiest/fakest of all of them.

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xp1337
03/30/20 1:32:25 PM
#56:


I see you guys were talking about shortages and preparation and stuff.

We all know about the administration cutting Obama's Pandemic Response Team and all that but there's also stuff like HHS requesting $2bn to bulk up the federal stockpile of masks and such and the WH cut it by 75%. In February. And this is after the CDC had been fighting with WH over replenishing the stockpile for a year... so they took control of it away from the CDC and put it in a different part of HHS: https://twitter.com/ericuman/status/1244065857761882112

And the tale of four states asking the WH for supplies. MA, ME, CO, and FL. MA gets 17% of they asked for, ME got 5%, CO got a day's worth of supplies. FL got everything they asked for, the same the week after, and is getting a third shipment: https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1244053944554401800

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Also, Trump saying the quiet part out loud again when he goes on Fox and says that if we made voting easier for people that "you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again.": https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1244606910462136321

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Reg
03/30/20 1:35:20 PM
#57:


xp1337 posted...
Also, Trump saying the quiet part out loud again when he goes on Fox and says that if we made voting easier for people that "you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again.": https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1244606910462136321
If we had a functioning, independent judiciary this quote alone would probably be sufficient grounds to strike down a lot of the Republican voter suppression laws and gerrymandering.
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red sox 777
03/30/20 1:36:41 PM
#58:


Kenri posted...
Except that the media Trump likes is the shittiest/fakest of all of them.

He said he was right more than half the time, not all the time. But if the media doesn't want to be treated like Fox News, they shouldn't emulate it. They emulate it, because it is the most successful media outlet at drawing viewers.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/30/20 2:22:48 PM
#59:


trump always says that fox is sometimes good (which automatically invalidates all of his "THE MEDIA SUCKS" criticisms)

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:27:29 PM
#60:


Kenri posted...
Except that the media Trump likes is the shittiest/fakest of all of them.

we spent a good 2 years on a pee tape being kept secret by russians secretly hiding who could potentially take out the electric grid of the United States.

hell, we just got through a democratic primary where media lying, being full of shit, and blatantly corrupt was the biggest story. Fox covered the democratic race more fairly than CNN and MSNBC.

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red sox 777
03/30/20 2:30:54 PM
#61:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
trump always says that fox is sometimes good (which automatically invalidates all of his "THE MEDIA SUCKS" criticisms)

I think Fox is actually better than CNN and maybe MSNBC. Fox has a greater propensity to report actual facts in a way where it's possible to learn something about what's happening in the world.

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GuessMyUserName
03/30/20 2:34:22 PM
#62:


Wanglicious posted...
we spent a good 2 years on a pee tape being kept secret by russians secretly hiding who could potentially take out the electric grid of the United States.
... uh no we didn't

hell nobody talked about the pee tape more than Hannity lmao

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Mr Lasastryke
03/30/20 2:34:32 PM
#63:


Wanglicious posted...
Fox covered the democratic race more fairly than CNN and MSNBC.

red sox 777 posted...
I think Fox is actually better than CNN and maybe MSNBC. Fox has a greater propensity to report actual facts in a way where it's possible to learn something about what's happening in the world.

citation needed


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red sox 777
03/30/20 2:36:19 PM
#64:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
citation needed

Just based on my own experience. I feel like during the Bush Presidency Fox was definitely worse, but the other media have sunk a long way since then and are now at or below Fox's level.

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:36:33 PM
#65:


fox depends on what it is. tucker's good, the rest range from "the hell was that? oh, youtube's in the background" to "what in god's name is this shit."

which, in fairness, describes a lot of the 24 news cycle channels like CNN and MSNBC.
and i'm still not forgiving ABC for getting a girl fired at another network because she's the one who filmed, not leaked, the tape of the ABC journo talking about how they squashed the Epstein story. that entire sequence, from the squashing to the firing, ranks as one of the scummiest moves in media in a long time.

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:38:01 PM
#66:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
citation needed

see anything Bernie and anything Yang.
the latter of which literally didn't exist on data MSNBC showed about two dozen times despite qualifying for it.

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:39:03 PM
#67:


GuessMyUserName posted...


hell nobody talked about the pee tape more than Hannity lmao

Maddow.


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Mr Lasastryke
03/30/20 2:39:55 PM
#68:


fox is better at reporting bernie stuff than CNN and MSNBC? really? at best, i can see them being "just as terrible."

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GuessMyUserName
03/30/20 2:40:56 PM
#69:


Wanglicious posted...
Maddow.
so what you're saying is that no, you don't at all parse what people are actually discussing at all and you just combine any Trump-Russia investigation as "pee tape" which everyone thought was way too salacious to focus on

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:45:01 PM
#70:


sorry, couldn't hear you over the talks about how Mueller is the second coming of jesus carrying an anti-russian spray.

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Jakyl25
03/30/20 2:45:49 PM
#71:


I mean, he did get a lot of Russians charged with crimes
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red sox 777
03/30/20 2:48:32 PM
#72:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
fox is better at reporting bernie stuff than CNN and MSNBC? really? at best, i can see them being "just as terrible."

Fox has been much better at reporting Tulsi stuff. They actually give her airtime and talk about her ideas and treat her as a serious candidate for high office.

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GuessMyUserName
03/30/20 2:49:10 PM
#73:


"second coming of jesus" is yours and the trump crowd's own exaggeration to handwave, not the people who had the audacity to report on a special council investigation of the federal government leading to 34 charged individuals

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:50:32 PM
#74:


that he did!
just none that mattered when it came to trump in the end, making his reward by his worshipers be... get shit on immediately after. but that makes sense considering there was a good 2 years focused on a pee tape and everything to do with it.

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 2:56:01 PM
#75:


no, second coming of jesus is the fact that somehow mueller was being hailed by the left wing press as this ultimate arbiter, this supreme being of justice, this mighty man who will smite trump and whose release of the report should be the new mark of a national holiday. sadly, there's not much exaggeration on my end from what was actually said. the baffling amount of hype and praise outlets, pundits, and personalities gave mueller is why i call his treatment the second coming of jesus. he charged 34 people, cool. did they connect to trump? not in any meaningful way so he was dropped instantly.

and hey, the right did demonize him too, they played their own propaganda. but the left somehow turned a guy involved with the beginning of the Iraq war into their hero for over a year and never once looked back until he proved he wasn't, at which point they just called him all the names they did before, as if nothing had happened.

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Not_an_Owl
03/30/20 2:58:05 PM
#76:


Wanglicious posted...
that he did!
just none that mattered when it came to trump in the end, making his reward by his worshipers be... get shit on immediately after. but that makes sense considering there was a good 2 years focused on a pee tape and everything to do with it.
Mueller's report all but said "Look, if this was anyone other than the President we would be advising charges for basically everything up to and including treason. Unfortunately the DoJ says the President can't be indicted. Ain't that a bitch?" The report coming to nothing wasn't Mueller's fault, it was a failing of our system and of Congressional Republicans refusing to even consider that their boy had done anything wrong.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/30/20 2:58:10 PM
#77:


red sox 777 posted...
Fox has been much better at reporting Tulsi stuff. They actually give her airtime and talk about her ideas and treat her as a serious candidate for high office.

well yeah, that makes sense. the right loves tulsi for some reason.

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 3:04:31 PM
#78:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Mueller's report all but said "Look, if this was anyone other than the President we would be advising charges for basically everything up to and including treason. Unfortunately the DoJ says the President can't be indicted. Ain't that a bitch?" The report coming to nothing wasn't Mueller's fault, it was a failing of our system and of Congressional Republicans refusing to even consider that their boy had done anything wrong.

that's all well and good but that's also not what the media was doing beforehand, not what they were selling, and therefore wasn't what mattered. people remember pee tape, russia, russia, pee tape. maybe they'll remember manafort. beyond that it's 33 blobs of nothing.

to be clear, the claim here is that media is shit. this isn't a case of "well actually, what he really did was..." or anything like that. completely irrelevant. it's all about media being shit.

media hyped him up as the second coming of christ to get rid of trump.
he didn't. no matter what the logic is, he didn't.
so they dropped him.

this is all despite the fact that he should've never been trusted in the first place, which a proper press should have said. a proper press should have restrained themselves.


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Not_an_Owl
03/30/20 3:06:28 PM
#79:


I honestly have not thought about the pee tape in over a year and I'm not sure why you think the media's been hyping it up so hard.

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GuessMyUserName
03/30/20 3:07:51 PM
#80:


they backed up a special council investigation from being interfered by the federal government it was investigating cry me a big fucking river

your complaints are so stupidly emotional over nothing but your own exaggerations and generalization because you always need to both sides everything

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Wanglicious
03/30/20 3:22:19 PM
#81:


there's nothing emotional about it and there ain't much exaggeration i'm afraid.
mainstream media just sucks that much and it's part why trust is pitiful.

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TheRock1525
03/30/20 3:36:32 PM
#82:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElIf2DBrWzU

John lays it out graphically well.

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Kenri
03/30/20 4:09:57 PM
#83:


Wanglicious posted...
we spent a good 2 years on a pee tape being kept secret by russians secretly hiding who could potentially take out the electric grid of the United States.

hell, we just got through a democratic primary where media lying, being full of shit, and blatantly corrupt was the biggest story. Fox covered the democratic race more fairly than CNN and MSNBC.
Cool, now list all the lies/propaganda/conspiracy theories from media Trump approves of.

Except you'd run out of space in the topic.

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LordoftheMorons
03/30/20 4:26:48 PM
#84:


https://twitter.com/forecasterenten/status/1244631941007228928?s=21

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pyresword
03/30/20 5:09:54 PM
#85:


Hot take: America doesn't have a media problem; it has a media literacy problem.
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FFDragon
03/30/20 5:13:12 PM
#86:


Hotter take: America has an America problem.

Anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers and MLMers and your garden variety idiots coming together to create the worst of humanity.

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SmartMuffin
03/30/20 5:26:48 PM
#87:


Dem governors competing to see who can announce the most ridiculous timeline for indefinite quarantine.

Coonman I think just set the record with mid-June. Who will be the first to declare it will have to last until 2021?

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MoogleKupo141
03/30/20 5:29:44 PM
#88:


are you being racist or is there really someone named coonman

edit: oh its something people called the Virginia governor who loves doing blackface, i see

probably still not cool to say but ok
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Mr Lasastryke
03/30/20 5:34:50 PM
#89:


Kenri posted...
Cool, now list all the lies/propaganda/conspiracy theories from media Trump approves of.

Except you'd run out of space in the topic.

it's worth noting that trump has unironically linked to breitbart on twitter a gazillion times

truly a hero fighting the good fight against dishonest media

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SmartMuffin
03/30/20 5:35:41 PM
#90:


edit: oh its something people called the Virginia governor who loves doing blackface, i see

No, it's his own nickname from back when he was in college.

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MoogleKupo141
03/30/20 5:37:30 PM
#91:


oh yeah, i realize that. I just worded it weird.
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red sox 777
03/30/20 5:37:45 PM
#92:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
it's worth noting that trump has unironically linked to breitbart on twitter a gazillion times

truly a hero fighting the good fight against dishonest media

It's fighting fire with fire!

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StealThisSheen
03/30/20 5:45:51 PM
#93:


You get out of the media what you want to get out of the media

You want talk of Trump being the second coming, you'll find it
You want talk of Trump being the devil, you'll find it

Apparently wang reeeeeally wanted pee tape for two years

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FFDragon
03/30/20 5:48:28 PM
#94:


SmartMuffin posted...
Dem governors competing to see who can announce the most ridiculous timeline for indefinite quarantine.

Hogan (MD) is a Republican and just ordered an indefinite stay at home under penalty of a year in jail.

So...

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Jakyl25
03/30/20 5:51:39 PM
#95:


SmartMuffin posted...

No, it's his own nickname from back when he was in college.


Didnt he try to say it wasnt because of the racial slur? LOLOL

Throw Northam into the sun
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FFDragon
03/30/20 5:56:58 PM
#96:


This is a public health crisis. We are no longer asking or suggesting that Marylanders stay at home. We are directing them to do so, Hogan said at a Monday news conference.

No timeline on lifting it. Until further notice.

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Suprak the Stud
03/30/20 6:02:15 PM
#97:


Jakyl25 posted...
Didnt he try to say it wasnt because of the racial slur? LOLOL

Throw Northam into the sun

Youre going to feel pretty silly when you find out he fought crime in college under the moniker Raccoon Man and this whole thing was just a big misunderstanding.

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Jakyl25
03/30/20 6:09:36 PM
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LordoftheMorons
03/30/20 6:57:39 PM
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https://twitter.com/AdamTaylorBates/status/1244749627745845254

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UshiromiyaEva
03/30/20 8:28:21 PM
#100:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/AdamTaylorBates/status/1244749627745845254

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Kinglicious
03/30/20 9:51:34 PM
#101:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Youre going to feel pretty silly when you find out he fought crime in college under the moniker Raccoon Man and this whole thing was just a big misunderstanding.



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