Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 425: Am I fucking going over?

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Jakyl25
11/25/17 3:34:02 PM
#151:


Merch sales!

I wonder how his merch does?
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voltch
11/25/17 3:38:22 PM
#152:


Probably makes less overall than in njpw.

Though had he stayed in njpw all his merch sales would still have been overshadowed by naito.
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/25/17 3:46:50 PM
#153:


voltch posted...
Probably makes less overall than in njpw.

Though had he stayed in njpw all his merch sales would still have been overshadowed by naito.


If by overall you mean overall merch. Probably.

If by overall you mean his entire cash flow.... no.
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ScareChan
11/25/17 4:00:26 PM
#154:


Rock is the bigger star right now, yes

but Flair molded like an entire generation. Indian, Assyrian, Gypsies, basically anyone that you see with those loafers and no socks look molded their lives to be like Flair and thats not a joke
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CeraSeptem
11/25/17 4:22:03 PM
#155:


Jakyl25 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Kinda sad Twitter war between Meltzer and Satin over whether Rock or Flair (in his prime) is/was a bigger cultural star

Satin tweeted Rock for his opinion and Dave called Satin an asshole <_<


I mean, the answer is clearly Rock.


Dave agrees and he thinks it was a dick move for Satin to drag Rock himself into it and force him to either put himself above one of his idols or be dishonest

If tweeting were compulsory that might be a good point
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 1:13:19 AM
#156:


Subscribed to Powerbomb.TV tonight since Beyond Wrestling is moving there

Turn on the live stream to see what the service is showing, and they have a show called Wazzup on where Nick Gage is wrestling Jonathan Gresham in the CHIKARA arena, followed by Bryce Remsburg doing a late night TV show for the audience with guests Stokely Hathaway and Orange Cassidy

Im sufficiently shook
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 12:59:05 PM
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/26/17 1:02:30 PM
#158:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/7fi4xw/wwe_recognizes_the_reality_era_20142016_as_a_thing/?st=JAH2HMGU&sh=99856496

LOL WWE eras


Reality era should be 2011-16 if they are gonna do that....

But either way, the new fucking era doesn't exist while guys who started Wrestling in 2000 have both of your promotions too belts...
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 1:06:36 PM
#159:


I personally call WM17 through WM21 the Postwar Era and WM21 through WM29 the Cena Era.

Not sure what to call the Era since Cena started stepping back yet.
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 1:13:33 PM
#160:


And yeah it would probably be most accurate to transition from Cena Era to the modern era with Summerslam 2013

Bryan beating him clean and then the formation of the Authority was a real sea change for the company and we havent moved on from it yet.
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/26/17 1:14:29 PM
#161:


Jakyl25 posted...
And yeah it would probably be most accurate to transition from Cena Era to the modern era with Summerslam 2013

Bryan beating him clean and then the formation of the Authority was a real sea change for the company and we havent moved on from it yet.


For better or worse....
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 1:18:25 PM
#162:


SSJBGenkiDama posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
And yeah it would probably be most accurate to transition from Cena Era to the modern era with Summerslam 2013

Bryan beating him clean and then the formation of the Authority was a real sea change for the company and we havent moved on from it yet.


For better or worse....


Uhhh 100% for worse
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/26/17 1:19:58 PM
#163:


Jakyl25 posted...
SSJBGenkiDama posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
And yeah it would probably be most accurate to transition from Cena Era to the modern era with Summerslam 2013

Bryan beating him clean and then the formation of the Authority was a real sea change for the company and we havent moved on from it yet.


For better or worse....


Uhhh 100% for worse


I thought I implied that pretty clearly.

For worse or worse doesn't make sense... lol
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 1:40:28 PM
#164:


What do we think about the news that WWE is adding a new 1 hour live show...on Facebook?

In 205 Lives spot no less. Though it would be good for that show to move to pre-SD
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voltch
11/26/17 1:58:20 PM
#165:


More content to watch, so you don't have to watch anything outside the universe?
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FFDragon
11/26/17 1:59:56 PM
#166:


the product sucks and overexposure like the third hour of raw is a huge part of it

how can we fix this?

MORE CONTENT
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Strife2
11/26/17 2:00:03 PM
#167:


Unless it's Talking WWE in some form (Raw or Smacking Talk), I don't care.
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 2:00:56 PM
#168:


Strife2 posted...
Unless it's Talking WWE in some form (Raw or Smacking Talk), I don't care.


Mixed Match Challenge
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 2:01:46 PM
#169:


If it's on Facebook, I pretty much guarantee it's an interview-type show.
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Strife2
11/26/17 2:02:25 PM
#170:


Jakyl25 posted...
Strife2 posted...
Unless it's Talking WWE in some form (Raw or Smacking Talk), I don't care.


Mixed Match Challenge


Say what now?
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 2:08:08 PM
#171:


Thats the name of the show. Thats all we know.
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 2:24:02 PM
#172:


Maybe they spin a wheel to determine who is fighting?
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FFDragon
11/26/17 2:37:37 PM
#173:


raw roulette returns
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 2:46:56 PM
#174:


Speculation is Raw vs SD

Which would hilariously undercut Survivor Series
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 2:47:37 PM
#175:


scarletspeed7 posted...
If it's on Facebook, I pretty much guarantee it's an interview-type show.


Naw, FB is paying them for a live show with matches
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Strife2
11/26/17 2:48:17 PM
#176:


Raw Roulette was always fun, except for the fact you could always tell it was rigged. Slow down you stupid wheel. I wanted an inferno match, not a blindfold evening gown hardcore match!
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 2:49:05 PM
#177:


Jakyl25 posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
If it's on Facebook, I pretty much guarantee it's an interview-type show.


Naw, FB is paying them for a live show with matches

Oh god, please say the Raw vs. SD thing is real and therefore ruining the new concept of SS.
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FFDragon
11/26/17 2:49:51 PM
#178:


Jakyl25 posted...
Which would hilariously undercut Survivor Series


which already hilariously undercut clash of champions
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 2:50:58 PM
#179:


Which already hilariously undercut Night of Champions
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StealThisSheen
11/26/17 2:51:27 PM
#180:


I now want to see Miz beat Corbin and then insist that Survivor Series didn't matter, because he beat him on the REAL show

Mixed Match Challenge
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 2:51:55 PM
#181:


Miz Match Challenge
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FFDragon
11/26/17 2:52:25 PM
#182:


Strife2 posted...
I wanted an inferno match


everyone always wants an inferno match (myself included) until you get an inferno match and you realize you're never going to get the match you envision and so you should never want an inferno match
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Strife2
11/26/17 2:55:52 PM
#183:


Because seeing William Regal in drag is worse than seeing MVP on fire...

...dear God I am morbid.
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voltch
11/26/17 2:56:03 PM
#184:


Unless you're watching some sleazy micro indie fed then it's everything you ever imagined ans it's horrifying.
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/26/17 3:37:35 PM
#185:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
If it's on Facebook, I pretty much guarantee it's an interview-type show.


Naw, FB is paying them for a live show with matches

Oh god, please say the Raw vs. SD thing is real and therefore ruining the new concept of SS.


Why would ANYONE want this?

SvS finally feels like a big 4 again
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ScareChan
11/26/17 4:11:51 PM
#186:


I heard it was like a mixed tag show with men and women fighting men andwomen
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 4:28:54 PM
#187:


Oh shit, that means Johnny Gargano is going to be the star.
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neonreaper
11/26/17 4:32:31 PM
#188:


Network Era?
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 4:48:11 PM
#189:


ScareChan posted...
I heard it was like a mixed tag show with men and women fighting men andwomen


That makes the most sense based on the name, but that seems like an odd turn for WWE
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voltch
11/26/17 4:51:39 PM
#190:


Can't let people watch Lucha Underground brother
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 4:52:11 PM
#191:


Lucha Underground has enough problems as it is :(
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 4:53:02 PM
#192:


Maybe we could finally get that Lesnar vs Asuka showdown
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 4:55:18 PM
#193:


Jakyl25 posted...
Maybe we could finally get that Lesnar vs Asuka showdown

No joke, this is the dream match. Asuka kicking in Brock's teeth would be the greatest wrestling moment in history.
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StealThisSheen
11/26/17 5:00:23 PM
#194:


How many suplexes would it take before Cole says Asuka just likes to have fun out there
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scarletspeed7
11/26/17 5:07:28 PM
#195:


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ZeroSignal620
11/26/17 5:21:23 PM
#196:


I just realized a few things today in terms of PPV stats. First, so far, TLC is one of only 3 current WWE ppvs that hasn't had anyone win a main event twice.

2009 - HHH/HBK
2010 - Cena
2011 - CM Punk
2012 - Ziggler
2013 - Orton
2014 - Wyatt
2015 - Sheamus
2016 - Styles
2017 - Rollins/Ambrose/Angle

Second is Hell in a Cell, with the following main event winners in order starting with 2009: HHH/HBK, Kane, Del Rio, CM Punk, Orton, Rollins, Lesnar, Charlotte, and Owens.

Let's see how long they can keep THOSE streaks going! Elimination Chamber and Money in the Bank come close to accomplishing this, but Cena's won the main events for EC in 2011 and 2012, as well as main events for MitB in 2012 and 2014. The third ppv is Battleground, though that has a smaller streak of nobody, Cena, Lesnar, Ambrose, and Jinder.

And also, Brock Lesnar's win over AJ Styles was his first win ever at Survivor Series. The Beast is rocking a 1-3 all-time record with losses to Big Show, Benoit, and Goldberg. Compared to say, the rest of his win/loss records on ppv...

Rumble: 4-2
No Way Out: 1-1
WrestleMania: 4-3*
Backlash: 2-0
Judgment Day: 2-0
King of the Ring: 2-0
Extreme Rules: 1-1
Vengeance: 0-2*
SummerSlam: 6-2
Night of Champions: 0-1*
No Mercy: 3-0
Survivor Series: 1-3
Unforgiven: 0-0-1
Great Balls of Fire: 1-0
Hell in a Cell: 1-0
Fastlane: 0-1*
Battleground: 1-0

Overall: 29-16-1

Of course the two Rumble losses are from the Rumble themselves, but the point stands. I put an asterisk besides ones that featured him losing where he didn't get pinned/submittted (basically by DQ, or not being the one pinned in a multi-man match. This includes WrestleMania 31, Vengeance 2002, Night of Champions 2014, and Fastlane 2016).
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GTM
11/26/17 7:34:27 PM
#197:


If that was the Cena Era, wouldnt this be the Roman Era?
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 7:38:42 PM
#198:


During 2005-2015, Cena never went on as long of a World Title drought as Roman is currently on.

He hasnt been Champ for over 17 months!
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Jakyl25
11/26/17 7:40:37 PM
#199:


(Actually thats not true, he did have one 18-month drought from HiaC 2011 to WM29.

But Roman will beat that!)
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ScareChan
11/26/17 7:40:49 PM
#200:


I would sooner call it the Styles or Lesnar era
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