Board 8 > GameSpot Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1

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-LusterSoldier-
09/06/11 2:52:00 PM
#1:


Maybe this contest will give everyone something to do while we wait for our contest to be announced. GameSpot contest will start tomorrow at 3:00 PM.


~*Contest Links and Information*~

Bracket - http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/bracket/index.html
Vote-In Results - http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/vote/index.html
All Matches will be here - http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/vote/battle-hub/index.html
Forum - http://www.gamespot.com/forums/board/909188307


Schedule:

Round 1 - September 7 - 12
Round 2 - September 12 - 16
Round 3 - September 16 - 19
Round 4 - September 19 - 21
Round 5 - September 21 - 23
Round 6 - September 23 - 26

Each round starts at 3:00 PM EDT / 12:00 PM PDT.


Bracket scoring system:

Round 1 - 1 point
Round 2 - 2 points
Round 3 - 4 points
Round 4 - 6 points
Round 5 - 10 points
Round 6 - 15 points

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whatisurnameplz
09/06/11 2:54:00 PM
#2:


The stats mean crap in this contest, and there's nothing to discuss other than how bad it is.

This topic is pointless.

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charmander6000
09/06/11 2:59:00 PM
#3:


That Arokh vs. Double H match in the vote-in was pretty epic

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-LusterSoldier-
09/06/11 3:00:00 PM
#4:


We had discussion topics for the past 2 GameSpot contests, so it makes sense to have one for the upcoming GameSpot contest. And yeah, the stats don't really mean much in the GameSpot contests because of the rallying factor.

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Haguile
09/06/11 3:09:00 PM
#5:


From: whatisurnameplz | Posted: 9/6/2011 5:54:36 PM | #002
The stats mean crap in this contest, and there's nothing to discuss other than how bad it is.

This topic is pointless.


But just how bad is it? Say, in a scale from 1 to 1000, how bad is it? I say it's 837 kind of bad.

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TheCodeisBosco
09/06/11 3:30:00 PM
#6:


Just looked over my bracket again! I'm pretty happy with it. Only change I made was taking Otacon over Diddy Kong.

I am kind of nervous about Sully/HK-47, though. Who do you guys have winning that? I chose HK, myself, but I don't feel great about it.

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FateStayAlbion
09/06/11 3:39:00 PM
#7:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
Just looked over my bracket again! I'm pretty happy with it. Only change I made was taking Otacon over Diddy Kong.

I am kind of nervous about Sully/HK-47, though. Who do you guys have winning that? I chose HK, myself, but I don't feel great about it.


I have HK-47, but thats just because I don't really know much of anything about Sully other than he's an Uncharted guy. Nathan Drake bombed even on Gamespot in the Best Hero Contest, so I don't think he'll be that strong

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TheCodeisBosco
09/06/11 3:51:00 PM
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FateStayAlbion posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
Just looked over my bracket again! I'm pretty happy with it. Only change I made was taking Otacon over Diddy Kong.

I am kind of nervous about Sully/HK-47, though. Who do you guys have winning that? I chose HK, myself, but I don't feel great about it.

I have HK-47, but thats just because I don't really know much of anything about Sully other than he's an Uncharted guy. Nathan Drake bombed even on Gamespot in the Best Hero Contest, so I don't think he'll be that strong


Didn't the Hero Contest take place before Uncharted 2's release, though?

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-LusterSoldier-
09/06/11 4:36:00 PM
#9:


Most of the Hero Contest took place before Uncharted 2 was released. Uncharted 2 was released on October 13th, while the Hero Contest ended on October 15th.

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Advokaiser
09/06/11 4:44:00 PM
#10:


Looking at my bracket, I'm DYING to know what will happen in the groupof Cortana, Zero, Captain Price, Athena, Moogle, and Launchpad McQuack. I think that's the most unpredictable group in the bracket.

Currently, I have:

Cortana > Dandelion
Moogle > Athena
Launchpad > Price
Zero > Prinny

Moogle > Cortana
Zero > Launchpad

Zero > Moogle

(The only pick I am considering in substituting is Moogle with Athena, so my picks would remain the same but with Athena taking the place of Moogle.)


Other than that, I'm just nervous about the obvious matches: Garrus vs. Yoshi, Luigi vs. Alyx, Garrus/Yoshi vs. Companion Cube, etc...

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_Yonex_
09/06/11 4:53:00 PM
#11:


Just did my bracket in 5 minutes.

Maya Fey vs. Murray is by far the greatest contest match I've seen on both sites! Two of my favourite VG characters.

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LeonhartFour
09/06/11 4:58:00 PM
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Huh, this starts tomorrow?

Shows how little I care.

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AxemRedRanger
09/06/11 5:00:00 PM
#13:


So what do people have for the Elite Eight?
I've got:

Zero > Tails
Luigi > Alyx
Yoshi > Garrus
WCC > Otacon

Luigi > Zero (Poor Zero has to go through this one again!)
Yoshi > WCC

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/06/11 5:14:00 PM
#14:


Zero > Tails
Luigi > Alyx
Yoshi > Garrus
WCC > Otacon

Luigi > Zero
WCC > Yoshi

WCC > Luigi

ValveSpot will not fail, especially when WCC has joke character value as well.

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Advokaiser
09/06/11 5:26:00 PM
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Well, I have:

Tails > Zero (look at the vote-ins section. Tails is, sadly, the strong favorite)
Alyx > Luigi (even though this one is practically a toss-up)
Garrus > Yoshi (another toss-up)
WCC > Otacon

Alyx > Tails
WCC > Garrus (another toss-up)

WCC > Alyx

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foxhead84
09/06/11 5:31:00 PM
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chocobo > Zero
Yoshi > Garrus
Alyx > Luigi
WCC > Otacon

Alyx > Choco
WCC > Yoshi

WCC > Alyx

I don't think Luigi and Yoshi will do as good as you guys think... Obviously this (GS) is not NintendoFaqs.... and stranger things have happened in the last 2 contests

But I think I've changed my bracket 10 times now... It's difficult (and kinda fun) to make a bracket without all the stats knowledge we used to have.... That's why adding some fictional characters (key word being "some") could add a little plus to our contest...

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AxemRedRanger
09/06/11 5:40:00 PM
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...Huh. You're right about the vote-ins.

...Urgh. I guess it's possible Gamespot really could have such bad taste! I guess if I have Tails beating Chocobo/Dom I should probably believe in him to beat Zero too.
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foxhead84
09/06/11 6:04:00 PM
#18:


Advokaiser posted...
Well, I have:

Tails > Zero (look at the vote-ins section. Tails is, sadly, the strong favorite)


Those vote-ins means nothing. You had 64 picks out of 80-90 characters... Everyone knows Tails so he obviously had one of the 64 picks.

But when it will be time to vote, people will vote for their favorite not the one that is the most known....

Look at the past champs: Gordon Freeman and General RAMM.... Mario and Bowser we're WAYYYYY more known but...
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Advokaiser
09/06/11 6:38:00 PM
#19:


foxhead84 posted...
Look at the past champs: Gordon Freeman and General RAMM.... Mario and Bowser we're WAYYYYY more known but...

...but there was a strong rally involved. GS contests are way more unpredictable than those on GameFAQs because there are WAY more trolling campaigns. That's why people fear characters like Launchpad will make it far in the competition, because he's the perfect target to make a huge rally, just like they did with General RAMM vs. Sephiroth.

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-LusterSoldier-
09/06/11 6:52:00 PM
#20:


Those vote-ins means nothing.

The Vote-Ins were also restricted to registered users, so outside forces could not affect the Vote-In results. The rallying factor did not exist in the Vote-Ins, but it will become a concern once the contest starts.

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LinkMarioSamus
09/06/11 7:33:00 PM
#21:


Sarah Kerrigan won the villains contest.

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TheCodeisBosco
09/06/11 8:07:00 PM
#22:


My Elite Eight:

Tails > Zero
Luigi > Alyx
Garrus > Yoshi
Cube > Otacon

Luigi > Tails
Cube > Garrus

Cube > Luigi

I really think Companion Cube is gonna be huge in this thing; especially since its bracket placement is really fortunate.

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smitelf
09/06/11 9:03:00 PM
#23:


Luigi vs HK-47 finals, HK-47 ftw!

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-LusterSoldier-
09/07/11 9:11:00 AM
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/6/2011 6:30:33 PM | message detail | quote | (edited)
I am kind of nervous about Sully/HK-47, though. Who do you guys have winning that? I chose HK, myself, but I don't feel great about it.


I've got HK-47. Sully should be pretty weak, as Nathan Drake got less than 40% against Pikachu in round 1 of the Heroes contest. Although that took place before Uncharted 2 came out, so maybe that game helps out Sully a bit.

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Oxbridge
09/07/11 9:30:00 AM
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I have Vivi > Otacon, because Otacon has never been in any contest before, whilst Vivi has, and has shown some strength. By that definiton, I should have Frog > Otacon, but this IS a GameSpot contest...

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SuperAngelo128
09/07/11 9:32:00 AM
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didnt care enough to make a predix bracket but I'll vote sometimes if i remember

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 9:34:00 AM
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I'm having a feeling that picking Luigi > Alyx on Gamespot is like picking Cloud > Link on GameFAQs. It sounds viable, but in practice it is highly unlikely.

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 9:40:00 AM
#28:


Oxbridge posted...
I have Vivi > Otacon, because Otacon has never been in any contest before, whilst Vivi has, and has shown some strength. By that definiton, I should have Frog > Otacon, but this IS a GameSpot contest...

Gordon Freeman barely beat Snake in a 50/50 match in the Hero's contest, so I'm expecting Otacon to be barely weaker than Alyx Vance. On the other side, Diddy will smash Vivi in the first round.

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LeonhartFour
09/07/11 9:48:00 AM
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Yeah, I think people are getting way overhyped about Alyx Vance due to Gordon in the Hero Contest.

Maybe Valve will pull through, but she's working from a much, much lower base strength than Gordon was.

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 9:54:00 AM
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I still stand by what I said... although I may change my picks in the last minute...

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-LusterSoldier-
09/07/11 10:08:00 AM
#31:


I don't think Valve is going to rally for Alyx Vance if there's a chance that Weighted Companion Cube could end up being in the finals. Because if both Alyx Vance and Weighted Companion Cube reach the finals, Valve won't be able to convince Steam users to support one of them since the fanbase will be somewhat divided on who to vote for.

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FateStayAlbion
09/07/11 10:14:00 AM
#32:


LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I think people are getting way overhyped about Alyx Vance due to Gordon in the Hero Contest.

Maybe Valve will pull through, but she's working from a much, much lower base strength than Gordon was.


Wasn't Breen pretty strong in the Villain contest? He made it to the Elite 8, and he should be significantly weaker than Alyx.

I think Alyxs path is pretty set... I don't see Toad, Midna or Alex Jacobson taking her out, and she'll lose to Luigi.

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neonreaper
09/07/11 10:14:00 AM
#33:


whatisurnameplz posted...
The stats mean crap in this contest, and there's nothing to discuss other than how bad it is.

This topic is pointless.


this topic rules

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junk_funk
09/07/11 10:15:00 AM
#34:


I got Zero, Luigi, Yoshi, and Vivi in the finals.

Only one I'm not certain will make it out of those is Zero. Tails might take him to the cleaners.

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junk_funk
09/07/11 10:16:00 AM
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Oh and a Luigi v. Yoshi final, in which Luigi wins.

This is a certainty in my mind.

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LeonhartFour
09/07/11 10:17:00 AM
#36:


From: FateStayAlbion | #032
Wasn't Breen pretty strong in the Villain contest?


Who did he actually beat? I don't think he beat anyone that will be as strong as Luigi is, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 10:18:00 AM
#37:


neonreaper posted...
this topic rules

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 10:19:00 AM
#38:


junk_funk posted...
I got Zero, Luigi, Yoshi, and Vivi in the finals.

Only one I'm not certain will make it out of those is Zero. Tails might take him to the cleaners.


You realize Vivi is not getting past Round 1, right?

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GrapefruitKing
09/07/11 10:21:00 AM
#39:


I think Breen beat Team Rocket ... then I forget

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FateStayAlbion
09/07/11 10:26:00 AM
#40:


LeonhartFour posted...
From: FateStayAlbion | #032
Wasn't Breen pretty strong in the Villain contest?
Who did he actually beat? I don't think he beat anyone that will be as strong as Luigi is, but maybe I'm wrong.


Team Rocket and Wario are the significant ones, then 4chan rallied General RAAM over him.

I don't think Alyx will beat Luigi or anything, I'm just saying her getting to the elite 8 is basically guaranteed due to lack of competition beforehand

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LeonhartFour
09/07/11 10:28:00 AM
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Oh right, the Team Rocket that was getting slaughtered by Ocelot before getting rallied.

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 10:32:00 AM
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How heavily do you think Alyx will be rallied against Luigi?

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PartOfYourWorld
09/07/11 10:43:00 AM
#43:


Forgot about this. GS's contests aren't, well, good, but it's still fun to vote in 32 matches at once.

TEAM ALYX VANCE REP

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LeonhartFour
09/07/11 10:44:00 AM
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From: Advokaiser | #042
How heavily do you think Alyx will be rallied against Luigi?


No way of knowing if or how much Valve will care.

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09/07/11 10:50:00 AM
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Alyx might not even need that much rallying. Gordon got 65.5% on Yoshi with none. Yoshi himself only got 63% on Liu Kang, and this was two years before the MK resurgence. Maybe the Nintendo guys outside of Mario are just weaker there. I can't remember, but did Kerrigan get significant rallying against Bowser?

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-LusterSoldier-
09/07/11 10:53:00 AM
#46:


I don't think Kerrigan got any significant rallying against Bowser. Kerrigan got 51.79% on Bowser before going out and getting 55.24% on The Joker next round, and then getting 59.98% against Vader in the finals.

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LeonhartFour
09/07/11 11:12:00 AM
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She was getting beaten pretty handily by Vader pre-rallying though.

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09/07/11 11:33:00 AM
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If the drop from Gordon to Alyx is even remotely close to what the drop is here then I can't see Alyx beating Luigi without massive rallying.

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junk_funk
09/07/11 11:42:00 AM
#49:


I'm not familiar with GameSpot. How can there be so much rallying and how can it have such a big effect? Are the vote totals that low on that site that a board's rallying can decide the outcome?

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Advokaiser
09/07/11 11:43:00 AM
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I think it will be Mario/Gordon all over again. Alyx is receiving a lot of praise in GS.

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