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LusterSoldier posted...

I can't believe this actually happened. A legendary in last place.

btw it was not until the last two lists

91. Chewtle

Total Score: 2948
Average Rank: 69
Standard Deviation: 25.576
Water Rank: 11/12

Not Fully Evolved Rank: 33/35

Rankings:
2 - PrinceOfKoopas
6 - changmas
13 - xenosaga
34 - Xuxon
35 - red13n
36 - VeryInsane
41 - MoogleKupo141
43 - Ermine
47 - Eddv
48 - Steiner
51 - th3l3fty
52 - ctesjbuvf
53 - Johnbobb
59 - DragonGargoyle
62 - Ashethan
67 - Bitto
67 - Mihark
69 - KommunistKoala
72 - Cody11533
73 - mcflubbin
74 - Inviso
75 - TexWolf_1729
77 - Anagram
83 - DireKrow
83 - OrangeCrush980
84 - MZero
84 - skulltrumpets
85 - hotdogturtle
86 - Raka_Putra
87 - Bane_Of_Despair
87 - starfox
88 - Paratroopa1
90 - hbthebattle
91 - andylt
92 - mnk
93 - ecksgem
93 - Luster Soldier
93 - XIII_Rocks
94 - Brayze_II
94 - GameBopAdv
95 - NFUN
95 - PrinceKaro
95 - ScepterOfLove

Comments:
PrinceOfKoopas (2) - Chewpy!
Johnbobb (53) - https://imgur.com/5RLkirh
Inviso (74) - I hate the stupid face, but it evolves into something semi-decent at least.
Bane_Of_Despair (87) - This thing's design just makes it look like it would be an annoying as fuck kid.
Paratroopa1 (88) - standard stupid face penalty for having a stupid face
andylt (91) - The head is too big and stupid looking.
mnk (92) - I'm pretty sure it's ugly on purpose, but that doesn't make it any better for me.
NFUN (95) - I want to punt him
PrinceKaro (95) - please get this nickelodeon-looking motherfucker out of my pokemon games

92. Indeedee

Total Score: 2956
Average Rank: 69
Standard Deviation: 25.618
Normal Rank: 8/8
Psychic Rank: 8/9

Fully Evolved Rank: 58/60

Rankings:
8 - PrinceKaro
12 - Luster Soldier
14 - Cody11533
14 - OrangeCrush980
27 - hotdogturtle
39 - Raka_Putra
43 - red13n
48 - DireKrow
48 - GameBopAdv
48 - Paratroopa1
52 - mcflubbin
53 - KommunistKoala
61 - changmas
62 - TexWolf_1729
64 - Eddv
64 - th3l3fty
68 - hbthebattle
69 - PrinceOfKoopas
69 - skulltrumpets
69 - Xuxon
74 - Ermine
77 - ScepterOfLove
80 - mnk
81 - Mihark
83 - VeryInsane
84 - Brayze_II
84 - MoogleKupo141
85 - andylt
85 - NFUN
87 - MZero
87 - Steiner
89 - XIII_Rocks
91 - ecksgem
91 - Inviso
92 - Bitto
92 - ctesjbuvf
92 - Johnbobb
94 - Anagram
94 - xenosaga
95 - Ashethan
95 - DragonGargoyle
96 - Bane_Of_Despair
96 - starfox

Comments:
Luster Soldier (12) - Cute Pokemon with a design similarity to Audino (similar body shape). It also has gender-specific designs and while I like both designs, I do prefer the female one more.
Paratroopa1 (48) - i have extremely mixed feelings about the cuteness properties of this thing
PrinceOfKoopas (69) - Indeedee is a Teletubby and I'm not a fan of that (this is also a KoopaTV article).
mnk (80) - This thing sure exists I think.
andylt (85) - Audino was bad enough, this is worse.
Inviso (91) - Why does this need to exist? It's like a gimmick Pokemon that doesn't stand out enough with its own gimmick to be memorable.
Johnbobb (92) - https://imgur.com/by87wXv
Bane_Of_Despair (96) - I really don't care for pretty much anything of this design. It's simultaneously boring and ugly at the same time. I don't care for the horns, the colors are just not interesting, neither gender form works for me. Just an overall miss.
starfox (96) - Ew

93. Arrokuda

Total Score: 3033
Average Rank: 71
Standard Deviation: 18.819
Water Rank: 12/12

Not Fully Evolved Rank: 34/35

Rankings:
12 - th3l3fty
28 - andylt
37 - TexWolf_1729
38 - Bane_Of_Despair
49 - DragonGargoyle
49 - Ermine
51 - GameBopAdv
55 - xenosaga
58 - Paratroopa1
60 - hbthebattle
62 - OrangeCrush980
63 - Cody11533
63 - MZero
64 - PrinceOfKoopas
65 - NFUN
66 - Xuxon
68 - KommunistKoala
68 - mcflubbin
70 - ctesjbuvf
71 - starfox
73 - Anagram
73 - XIII_Rocks
76 - changmas
76 - mnk
78 - DireKrow
78 - Eddv
80 - Inviso
81 - Brayze_II
81 - Johnbobb
82 - skulltrumpets
84 - red13n
84 - VeryInsane
85 - Ashethan
85 - PrinceKaro
85 - ScepterOfLove
87 - MoogleKupo141
88 - hotdogturtle
90 - Bitto
91 - Luster Soldier
92 - Raka_Putra
95 - ecksgem
96 - Mihark
96 - Steiner

Comments:
andylt (28) - The smiley face does a lot.
Bane_Of_Despair (38) - This line might be the biggest surprise for me for this project. I actually quite like this line's design! Just a very solid fish Pokemon design, I like the smirk it has too.
Paratroopa1 (58) - cuter than barraskewda but theyre basically the same thing
PrinceOfKoopas (64) - Yeah whatever
NFUN (65) - fish
Inviso (80) - This is such a basic Pokemon that I can't even enjoy it being one of the faster newbies in this generation.
Johnbobb (81) - https://imgur.com/wCzL9Tk

94. Calyrex

Total Score: 3054
Average Rank: 71
Standard Deviation: 22.282
Grass Rank: 10/10
Psychic Rank: 9/9

Fully Evolved Rank: 59/60

Rankings:
17 - GameBopAdv
28 - Mihark
30 - XIII_Rocks
36 - Steiner
39 - DragonGargoyle
42 - PrinceKaro
44 - Ermine
45 - Ashethan
46 - Paratroopa1
51 - PrinceOfKoopas
52 - Inviso
53 - red13n
58 - DireKrow
58 - Luster Soldier
61 - xenosaga
62 - ctesjbuvf
70 - OrangeCrush980
74 - Brayze_II
78 - mcflubbin
78 - Raka_Putra
79 - ecksgem
79 - hotdogturtle
81 - th3l3fty
82 - NFUN
82 - TexWolf_1729
84 - Johnbobb
85 - Anagram
85 - Bitto
86 - skulltrumpets
86 - VeryInsane
88 - Bane_Of_Despair
90 - Eddv
91 - mnk
91 - MZero
92 - andylt
92 - starfox
92 - Xuxon
93 - MoogleKupo141
94 - Cody11533
94 - hbthebattle
94 - KommunistKoala
96 - changmas
96 - ScepterOfLove

Comments:
DragonGargoyle (39) - "Cum is stored in the brain, and I have a headache"
Paratroopa1 (46) - giving this thing a giant bulbous head was definitely A CHOICE I know its supposed to represent a crown but come on, at the end of the day it just looks like a big ol tumor
PrinceOfKoopas (51) - Big brain?
Inviso (52) - I appreciate its role in the story of the DLC, but this is just a largely forgettable legendary that hooks up with the more memorable horse duo.
Luster Soldier (58) - The design of this thing isn't terrible, but it is an absolute embarrassment for the main legendary of the Crown Tundra DLC. The overall BST of 500 is the lowest for a non-evolving or fully evolved legendary, and it's not even viable in the lowest tier on Smogon. The existence of Cosmog/Cosmoem has spared Calyrex of the being the worst competitively viable legendary, as they both lack any attacking moves. While base Calyrex sucks, it has 2 fusion forms with the 2 legendary horses that turn Calyrex into an Uber tier Pokemon.
hotdogturtle (79) - Ok, we have a winner. For fifty bar dollars, and once again the title of champion, Wayne "The Main Brain" McClain.
Johnbobb (84) - https://imgur.com/8mHwcu2
Bane_Of_Despair (88) - Yea, the big bulb is dumb. The rest of him is sort of fine, but of course that comes with the big bulb.
Eddv (90) - trashmon
mnk (91) - The DLC story had a chance to move it up, but I didn't really find the character to be that endearing either. So it's just an ugly design.
andylt (92) - I hate how smug this thing looks. It's harder and harder for legendaries/mythicals to stand out in their ever expanding crowd, I get it, but the massive 'crown' doesn't work. And why is it riding other pokemon? You're not better than them, silly rabbit.

KommunistKoala posted...

im going 96 for 96

oh yeah? then who's next, smartass

95. Blipbug

Total Score: 3251
Average Rank: 76
Standard Deviation: 21.541
Bug Rank: 8/8

Not Fully Evolved Rank: 35/35

Rankings:
6 - Xuxon
34 - red13n
34 - Steiner
35 - Mihark
41 - th3l3fty
42 - GameBopAdv
43 - changmas
62 - VeryInsane
65 - starfox
65 - XIII_Rocks
66 - ScepterOfLove
69 - Eddv
71 - Bane_Of_Despair
71 - ctesjbuvf
72 - TexWolf_1729
74 - Anagram
79 - mcflubbin
80 - Johnbobb
80 - xenosaga
83 - MZero
84 - DragonGargoyle
84 - PrinceOfKoopas
85 - Ermine
86 - hbthebattle
86 - hotdogturtle
86 - NFUN
86 - OrangeCrush980
87 - ecksgem
88 - Brayze_II
89 - DireKrow
90 - andylt
91 - Paratroopa1
91 - Raka_Putra
92 - Cody11533
92 - Inviso
94 - Luster Soldier
95 - Bitto
95 - KommunistKoala
95 - mnk
95 - skulltrumpets
96 - Ashethan
96 - MoogleKupo141
96 - PrinceKaro

Comments:
Bane_Of_Despair (71) - The eyes are really what make this thing, and considering the eyes take up like 50% of its entire body that makes sense. It's a bug, not the worst Bug type there is but eh.
Johnbobb (80) - https://imgur.com/Es72T7N
PrinceOfKoopas (84) - wtf ew
hotdogturtle (86) - The first pic I saw of this Pokemon was a cropped Pokedex image from someone playing a leaked copy, and I thought that the image was horizontally compressed and no one was commenting on it. It took a few more days and more pics for me to realize that this Pokemon actually does look like it's horizontally squished just normally.
NFUN (86) -
andylt (90) - Dear god what happened here? I love bugs, but this line... what were they thinking? What is with this thing's eyes?!
Paratroopa1 (91) - no
Inviso (92) - At least it evolves into something kind of interesting, right?
mnk (95) - omg it's so ugly.
PrinceKaro (96) - possibly the most cursed abomination that gamefreak has ever created

oh i missed that you did the headers thing lol one sec

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Wait did you not get my sheet

yeah i totally did uhh hang on

Been a few years, lets see if I remember how to do this. No ~Sheet~ just yet but it's coming! Now let's rank some Pokemon!

96. Enamorus

Total Score: 3181
Average Rank: 76
Standard Deviation: 23.168
Fairy Rank: 8/8
Flying Rank: 5/5

Fully Evolved Rank: 60/60

Rankings:
16 - Steiner
21 - Paratroopa1
25 - Luster Soldier
35 - changmas
43 - xenosaga
45 - DragonGargoyle
50 - PrinceOfKoopas
53 - Xuxon
55 - hotdogturtle
58 - Mihark
58 - PrinceKaro
64 - TexWolf_1729
68 - Bitto
70 - Inviso
77 - th3l3fty
78 - ecksgem
80 - skulltrumpets
81 - Ermine
82 - mnk
84 - DireKrow
84 - mcflubbin
84 - OrangeCrush980
88 - andylt
89 - starfox
90 - MZero
91 - NFUN
92 - Brayze_II
93 - Anagram
93 - hbthebattle
93 - Johnbobb
93 - ScepterOfLove
94 - Ashethan
94 - red13n
94 - XIII_Rocks
95 - Cody11533
95 - MoogleKupo141
96 - ctesjbuvf
96 - Eddv
96 - GameBopAdv
96 - KommunistKoala
96 - Raka_Putra
96 - VeryInsane

Comments:
Paratroopa1 (21) - I thought enamorus was supposed to be male and just kinda gay-camp in that way japanese characters sometimes are but it turns out, no, pink and hearts means youre a girrrrrl. Anyway the turtle form owns, kiss my ass enamorus haters
Luster Soldier (25) - The newest addition to the legendary genies, Enamorus sets itself apart from the other 3 genies by having a female gender in-game (the other 3 genies are male). As with the other 3 genies, it also has a Therian Form.
DragonGargoyle (45) - She is a Yo-Kai Watch character, she is based
PrinceOfKoopas (50) - I don't like Enamorus's cloud-based incarnate form, but I'm a big fan of its turtle fan, so it averages out to this middling placement. I also have difficulty spelling her name.
hotdogturtle (55) - I just think it's funny that as the first competitively-viable user of Cute Charm, she has now forced female Pokemon to be optimal over males.
Inviso (70) - It's the only truly BAD new Pokemon from Hisui, because it's somehow a worse genie than the trio that already exist. That's not great.
mnk (82) - I actually don't hate the turtle form as much, but it's still not good.
andylt (88) - Enamorus was never going to look good. I get what they were going for, but all the genies are bad and they were locked into that same unpleasant design pattern here.
Johnbobb (93) - https://imgur.com/uOmRIpm
XIII_Rocks (94) - Not long after playing Arceus, I was in the car and either me or my friend used the word "hideous". And Enamorus was the first image I thought of. It is a grotesque Pokemon, one of the worst designs ever. I do like how it completes the Chinese cardinal points thing, but that can't save how awful Enamorus is.
ctesjbuvf (96) - This is hideously terrible, has no reason to exist, is basically hidden because of how tough the last trainer battle is and yeah. I'm just really not a fan whatsoever.
Eddv (96) - trashmon
Raka_Putra (96) - Gross

Hbthebattle posted...

bruh
would either of orange's 16s be an early drop though

accounting for that would be spoilers. the lists will be correct.

well i wanted to be posting about now but i'm waiting on orange's correction still so most likely posting starts tomorrow

they're headers! why would you do that!

skulltrumpets posted...

I think you're overestimating how intelligent the human race can be

not after seeing how many of you sorted your headers to the bottom of the spreadsheet

@OrangeCrush980 you have two number 16s please correct your list
@eddv i have no idea what you were doing please check DMs

so the scientists are stupid because they're british?

Raka says 2 hours so that's the rough deadline now

The only person to not submit a list who's posted in the topic (besides ctes) is @Raka_Putra, Raka are you getting one in?

Hbthebattle posted...

for context, Calyrex-Shadow was the third mon to get banned to AG, after Mega Rayquaza and Zacian-Crowned. Zacian got heavily nerfed coming into Gen 9 (which also added several new Pokemon with Unaware that check/counter it) so it fell back into Ubers. Calyrex is still there.

wish i knew this to rank calyrex higher

and i'll be asleep and starting the ranking some time my evening tomorrow

there were problems with a few people's lists who i've messaged - @PrinceKaro , @hbthebattle, @starfox2245 (I hope that's right) and @liquidoshawott fix your lists pls

Rydia
Barret
X-Death
Alphi

took a while but i took down sephiroth EX2, using his event weapon against him made the difference as sephiroth is easily able to tank an octaslash once he's buffed himself, and some well timed summons can take advantage of his elemental weakness phases

work, asshole

it's loose. don't worry about it

colliding posted...

anybody else get really bad headaches whenever you eat red onion?

try taking smaller bites

do you have a good urine supplier

ky kong

i'll remember this

need to make a sandwich in like an hour can anyone help

don't be put off trying that very hard dungeon - there's only one boss who's close to the advertised max number and it's very optional and out of the way - I got a solid A+ on my first attempt when I was only planning to go in to scout the symbol enemies, you can easily pick up all the points you need for the score rewards and have a respectable group ranking just by ignoring the hard fight

rwlh posted...

Im getting the sense that this singer is holding back, so to speak

this is so delightfully true that i must remember to nominate Mondo Cane next time

rwlh posted...

Steiner I dont know if weve ever meaningfully interacted but youve nominated something that is very to my taste

i had a feeling

rise against are punk but not pop punk which will be why you're not finding pop punk characteristics

one week remaining and i have 12 favourites

how were your sephiroth pulls? disappointed in mine, i'm left with his best weapon being a firaga all which i already have in a couple of spots, serves nicely on the soldier 3rd class boss though i guess

oh we're getting 3 tonics every few hours instead of 1 now too

pushed up to floor 35 of battle tower today and i'm starting to take more control of my equipment on these harder fights. spent some time leveling too, only matt and lucia to get to 50 now - I have an awesome weapon for Lucia (the V39 at 6 rarity) that i want to take advantage of in the battle tower so decided it's time to get them going, though i guess from tomorrow sephiroth will be in the leveling party.

Paratroopa1 posted...

I don't measure my love for them based on the competitive meta

it's weird that this is the line the design freaks use. I dunno my favourites are the ones I've had a good time with in the game, which is largely in line with them being competent in some way in battle.

steam version is doing nothing for me except getting us more celebration events so hell yeah

RaidenGarai posted...

Stamina recovery goes from 1 every 6 minutes to 1 every 2 minutes following Thursday maintenance. Hell yeah!

time to start weening us off this tonic dependency i guess

who can say! decreasing PDEF and MDEF seems like it will be solid vs bosses for a long time and I think 3 effects will be standard for a while, so I wouldn't expect anything at Halloween that definitively blows it away. but depending on the content that drops, more situational things could be more coveted, like red's seaside collar which absolutely melts anything with lightning weakness. just impossible to know what's going to be better in the future, but I do think it's top tier today!

the cloud one is boss as hell for both the big yellow tonberry and ramuh

yeah either or would probably encourage me to actually keep on top of it

i wish there was a way to set all 5 synths at once

yeah I suspect it's the best weapon available right now. as a side note I realised only the newly released weapons have 3 effects, so power creep is already real!