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Highly, highly agreed. Ignoring a potential solution because it is not 100% effective is not a good way to go about things.
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What century do you live in?
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I think the basic idea is that people willing to do extreme, terrible things will do so regardless of what the law allows. They will find a way.

I get that, but the argument isn't that gun control will absolutely prevent every single incident, but create measures that will decrease the probability that they occur.
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Bloop.
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Lathissamus posted...

Remember that ability where Squall shoots a laser beam up into the heavens then drops it onto enemies...? quite a bit more ridiculous than an anchor

It's just reflecting off of the moon. You know, where monsters come from.
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Every week or so, people are shot en masse and the gun control debate strikes up again. Often gun proponents bring up some idea that gun control is pointless because "after all, we have murder laws and murder still happens."

I am always baffled by this statement. Do people honestly believe that:

A) Murder would be just as common if there were no legal and/or societal consequences for it?

B) That murder laws should be repealed because they are useless?

Can someone explain to me why this is a good argument?
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"Hey look, it's Final Fantasy and Disney in the same game."
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snake1989 posted...

Even if I take your statement to be fully true, this campaign is still serving to draw attention away from the specific Weinstein and Hollywood scandal and re-position it as an indictment of our society. But our society clearly and unequivocally does not approve of his behavior, so I think it's worth recognizing that the only way he perpetuated his own personal rape culture was by hiding it from mainstream culture. Therefore, I think that in this specific case, it's more valuable to talk about the ways in which Weinstein and Hollywood jointly concealed something they knew the wider culture would never stand for, rather than accusing that wider culture of being just as guilty. It blatantly isn't, because within days of this being publicly revealed Weinstein was widely reviled and lost his academy position following the huge scandal that broke.

If this was a problem rooted in wider societal attitudes toward women, I don't think there would have been such a scandal - people would have just accepted it as normal instead of as a heinous crime. There is, however, a cultural problem within Hollywood, hence why this didn't become a scandal internally for so long in spite of it being an open secret.

You say there's no wider problem, Yet we're literally sitting in a topic in which a person is defending people that send unsolicited dick pics as not worthy of being considered a form of sexual harassment. It's just something guys do every once in a while, no?
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To be fair, his definition, I found was taken from legaldictionary.com.

However, the fact that his definition includes the simple word "or", as in:

"repetitive and/or systematic..."

literally means that by his definition that harassment need not be a second or even third time offense.
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Harassment is defined as: The act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands.

Where do you find your definition? A quick Google search for "sexual harassment" gives this version from dictionary.com:

"harassment (typically of a woman) in a workplace, or other professional or social situation, involving the making of unwanted sexual advances or obscene remarks."

Another definition of "harassment" states:

"aggressive pressure or intimidation"

Arguably, repetitive actions could be considered aggressive, but I don't think that is the only thing that could be considered "aggressive". Grievous single actions involving unwarranted touching or indecent exposure that jump to a more unacceptable behavior could certainly also fall under that definition.

In either case, there is no explicit mention of repetition, so I have no idea why you deem that must be a criteria. Once is enough and something like a dick pic or flashing your wang at the water cooler is probably enough to warrant come kind of action to be taken regardless what sort of pigeonholed definition you give it.
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If a guy flashes his junk to a girl on the dance floor at a bar? Should that be considered sexual harassment?
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Still tho. Watch Venture Bros.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Mecha Barbara Streisand

Crab People

Giant Hamsters because of Chilean Flute Bands

Go God Go and Go God Go XII

Imaginationland

I think it's less that these things are random and more that you don't get the references?

MechaStreisand was a direct parody of kaiju films and was deliberately crafted so that they could pit a celebrity they don't like (Barbara) against a bunch of celebrities they respect (Maltin, The Cure, Poitier). It may seem random to have all of these people turn into giant monsters, but even the monsters are direct homages to MechaGodzilla, Mothra, Gamera and Ultraman. In a vacuum, this episode seems a bit strange, but as a stand-alone kaiju parody, it is a well-crafted one that borrows and satirizes tropes from the target films.

Crab People is probably the most random of things you mentioned. I'll give you this one.

Acthuality, they were giant guinea pigs that were summoned by Peruvian flute bands. OMG, soooo random, right? Nope, it's a very logical progression again used to parody apocalyptic disaster films. Guinea pigs are a native animal Peru and were very important in both ancient and modern Peruvian culture where they were bred, farmed, and eaten. It's an ancient culture linked with disastrous elements related to a native species. Bizarre, yes. Random, no.

Go God Go is a direct parody of old pulp science fiction TV and movies such as Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers. I'm not even sure what the 'random' element is here. The ottters? Sure, I guess, but plenty of science fiction has anthropomorphic animals. Is Beyond Good and Evil soooo random because it has a Pig Man (among others)? Is Star Wars soooo random because it has a beeping trash can and a man made of fur? No, and nobody would ever claim as such. Future worlds and fiction are often defined by their non-human races and Go God Go is no exception.

Imaginationland is probably the least random and it is made out to be a "what-if story". What if all the imaginary characters we know and love actually lived in a physical realm together? It's a fantasy story and everything is deliberate from the council of nine featuring very powerful and/or iconic characters and which character gets to live in the "good" world vs in the "evil" world.

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Compare this to Rick and Morty which uses its Interdimensional Cable episodes as an outlet for Mr. Roiland to ramble on about whatever he wants and then draw some funny pictures over those diatribes. Yes, it's grounded in a guise of "there are infinite universes, so this makes perfect sense in world", but it seems more like they use that premise to go off on some weird Tim-and-Eric-esque bender rather than using the strange universe of the show to craft something unique. Don't get me wrong, my favorite episodes of R&M of all time was the Alien Parasites episode which is rife with random stuff, but I'd argue that South Park is muuuuuch less random-for-random-sake than R&M in general.
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Venture Bros. tops them all.
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They owe Wall Street millions or something so they don't deserve any help.
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Would you say that she's....got the runs?
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