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adjl posted...

Sure it does. The central point is that you accusing the CDC of contradicting themselves because they changed their position according to new evidence indicates you don't understand the situation. That's no less true if we instead say that you accusing the CDC of hypocrisy because they changed their position according to new evidence indicates you don't understand the situation.

I wasn't even talking about them being the hypocrites in the first place. You keep going deeper into this bizarre hole you've dug looking for a "gotcha" when you aren't even digging in the right field because of an initial misunderstanding on your part. I already elaborated on your mistake once so don't ask me to again and just reread the topic from the top.

adjl posted...

Still think it's not a comeback, @Reigning_King ?

It's not in any meaningful way, so no.

Gaawa_chan posted...

Trayvon was the one standing his ground against a murderous stalker.

You were there? Why didn't you testify on his behalf?

adjl posted...

In that context, it obviously does, but if it makes you feel any better, the central point of that comment remains completely intact if you substitute "contradicting themselves" for "hypocrisy."

It doesn't though, your understanding of context is either really bad or you're fishing for statements I've made that can be misconstrued.
Zareth posted...

hypocritical not hypothetical

This is you.
https://youtu.be/LiYqTcaq_Zo

Contradictory =/= hypothetical

Come on dude.

adjl posted...

you understand very little about any of this (see: accusing the CDC of hypocrisy for changing their position on masks as new evidence emerged to support wearing them).

Why do you keep bringing up things that never happened?

adjl posted...

Did anyone actually say "the science is wrong," or did they just say "it was wrong to announce this because it will be abused"?

Literally doesn't matter either way. Both as commiting the sin of questioning the all knowing CDC.

adjl posted...

Did they actually?

Yes. Maybe you were lucky enough to not come across those types of idiots but they definitely existed.

Mead posted...

You very much do not seem like an enlightened individual.

Ignorance is bliss as they say. I'm sure I wouldn't be so tired of dealing with you humans if I wasn't as enlightened as I am.

They are hypocrites for saying the CDC was in the wrong and companies should disregard the new mask rules, even if they were right to say that since people like me exist because previously they pretended the CDC was infallible and Fauchi was some galaxy brain messiah and everyone should just do as they were told.

Simple enough explanation?

RCtheWSBC posted...

I love PO, man.

For telling people to die painful deaths? Oh, they say women find men with dark triad traits like a lack of empathy attractive so I suppose it checks out. More power to you I guess.

adjl posted...

Also yeah, saying "You were all hypocrites to be worried that the CDC's announcement would result in unvaccinated people giving up masks" and then admitting to giving up masks without being vaccinated pretty much revokes your right to call anyone hypocritical.

I literally said the opposite of that. Read adjl, read.

Reigning_King posted...

I mean I'm not even saying they were wrong to complain...

Zareth posted...

What makes a "mass" shooting different from a mass shooting?

Largely the distinction is formed by how much media attention it gets but that in turn is determined by details of the shooting like the shooter's race, gender, political affiliation, motive(assumed or stated), and the location. Things like the situation in the OP post or a hypothetical event where a stereotypical "disgruntled lone white incel" shot up a showing at that Joker movie (which the media eagerly anticipated happening) would be labeled "mass" shootings while the exact same amount of people being killed or injured by a drive by at barbeque in some lower class neighborhood full of minorities wouldn't be reported on as such, if it really got any coverage at all.

The point I'm trying to make is that the number of people being shot or killed with guns very obviously doesn't matter in the eyes of the general public as much as who is being shot or where they are being shot at or why they are being shot. The "outrage" that flares up around these "mass" shootings while all of the many other mass shootings are ignored is almost as disingenuous as the thoughts and prayers crowd. Obviously there were many mass shootings in 2020, but how many got the same kind of media attention some of them got in years prior? Why was the usually fiercely debated topic of gun control hardly mentioned during the presidential election? It's not because they stopped but because there was something new on the table to make headlines out of everyday and draw people in by playing on their fears and other negative emotions. Now that that issue is starting to be played out it's back to talking about guns and "mass" shootings I guess.

It's all so tiresome.

Cacciato posted...

No, its still you. Since there were mass shootings regardless of whatever your personal definition is.

Again notice the quotation marks in my post. I'm not talking about mass shootings, I'm talking about "mass" shootings. This shouldn't be this hard for you to wrap your head around.

You can claim that you felt/thought that way adjl and I can't prove you didn't but there were definitely hypocritical nimrods on that side of the issue and that's who I'm laughing at.

Also that last part of your post doesn't mean much when that >2% isn't even really >2% and is much lower for most people as I pointed out.

Cacciato posted...

What the fuck are you talking about? There were mass shootings in 2020. Why are you this dense? Is it on purpose?

Notice the quotation marks around mass in my post. Now who is being dense here?

faramir77 posted...

Facts don't matter to him, only feelings. Typical right wing snowflake.

You could try to hide your projection just a little bit you know. Also I'm not right wing or a conservative.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Which would be fine if it wasn't something that had such a high fatality rate

Sub 2% and only if you disregard the vast number of cases that go undetected because they're asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms as well as disregard that 80% of fatalities have preexisting conditions meaning the covid in concert with other illnesses is what kills them not just the covid, as well as disregard both the artificial and situational bloat in that number from various sources.

Read up on the Black plague or something.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Except that's not really the case at all, and most of the people complaining aren't really complaining for the reasons you're implying.

lol, nice alternative history of something that happened like three months ago.
https://youtu.be/nctWidPTtwI

Plenty of people who claimed they were to be listened to without question before got their panties in a bunch and started questioning them for this "horrible" choice, that's a fact. I mean I'm not even saying they were wrong to complain, I'm not vaccinated and I ditched my mask a few weeks before that even and haven't worn one in public since so the whiners were correct but it just goes to show their orginal point about the CDC was always bullshit and that they're a bunch of hypocrites.

Jen0125 posted...

I don't care about rarity. It's too frequent and random in the US. You never know when it could happen to you. Why do we live this way? Because people can't give up their fucking guns? It's pathetic.

I honestly, no jokes or malice included, feel sorry for people like you who let themselves fall into fearmongering culture. You do know that in 2020 despite having no "mass" shootings it was still the deadly year for gun violence in general right? Like you're afraid of one thing you logically don't really need to be while seemingly ignoring much more tangible dangers because those one aren't hyped up and reported on as much.

Gaawa_chan posted...

We already have mandated vaccines in other facets of life. Stop being a drama queen, it's pathetic.

Also, aren't you the kind of hypocrite who demands that people who flee from unstable nations should stay where they are from instead and "fix" their countries?

You call me a drama queen after your borderline hysterics above demanding personal freedoms be stripped from people so you can feel safe? Lol.

I have no problem with immigrants or immigration, ad long as they go through the proper processes and follow our laws. That's a totally different issue though, telling you'd bring it up.

Gaawa_chan posted...

Having just read the previous page, I'd like to point out that "my body, my choice" doesn't apply when it comes to pandemics. Vaccination should not be a matter of personal choice if for no other reason than because not everyone has the choice to take a vaccine. It falls upon those who can take the vaccine to do so in order to prevent it from spreading to those who can't take it.

Your right to not take a vaccine should end when you live in a fucking society and you could spread the disease and potentially kill hundreds of people with your bullshit conspiracism thanks to the nature of contagion. Hell, you could kill thousands if a new strain mutates thanks to your "personal choice." Manually termanating a pregnancy (when 1/5 of all pregnancies end in miscarriage anyway) is not comparable to the wide-spread harm to society that comes from weakening vaccination distribution.

Vaccines are not a matter of individual health; they are a matter of health related to entire populations. Policies with respect to contagious disease containment and treatment should NEVER be up to the individual, if for no other reason than because it makes it more difficult for people who do want it to get it.

If, fate forbid, some disease with a fatality rate comparable to the worst strains of ebola and the ability to spread like COVID turns up, I don't want us to live in a society that doesn't already practice the procedures needed to stop it before it starts. Like... this feels like people who shit all over organized efforts to stop the spread of diseases are just painfully ignorant on the topic of contagions. It's a little embarrassing.

If you don't like American freedom you're free to leave, assuming you do live here. I would hope so since any foreigner would have even less of a foot to stand on telling us what to do.

Mead posted...

Dont even do this shit dude. Even one person getting shot or getting shot and killed is awful and causes so many problems and it is happening CONSTANTLY. Right now people are just fucking shooting each other like fucking monsters.

Its enough. You know that it is enough. Meet me there at least.

My concerns don't line up well with those of most of humanity so sorry.

I just don't like that people talk about mass shootings and demand change while many more people die in "normal" shootings every single day and 99% of those people don't bat an eye. To me is seems like hypocrisy and I can't trust their sincerity. I'm not saying YOU are like that but many people are. People are just so "fake" about so many things it makes me sick, I would rather they not pretend to care at all than display fake emotions to push political policies and stroke their own ego.

Also, I don't mean to sound insensitive, but does this actually qualify as a "mass" shooting? You could call it an attempted mass shooting I guess but I figured there was criteria they had to be met to be called that like with spree killings and serial killings.

Mead posted...

Get rid of the guns. Melt them the fuck down.

End the war on drugs and start the war on guns.

The constitution.

adjl posted...

Did you really just suggest that the chance of dying of Covid is comparable to the chance of being struck by lightning outside of a thunderstorm?

No.

I mean, it has happened, so there is a chance. It all depends on the context of the situation.

adjl posted...

Why do you think this is a matter of politics and not empirical reality?

I don't disagree with you there. I just think it's hilarious how the same people who were screaming stuff like "Trust the science!" and "The CDC knows more than you ever could, don't rely on your own feelings/thoughts/research and just do whatever they tell you to do!" followed along and hand waved contradictory bullshit like how they said masks weren't needed back when this started, as long as they were making people more frightened, but the second they say something optimistic and in the opposite direction suddenly they're a bunch of heartless idiots who can't be trusted. If they do fully flip flop on this I expect their fanatics turned detractors to flip flop accordingly.

KodyKeir posted...

Virology is a college level course; they teach about mutations in grade nine biology, which you would know if you had taken it.

Your high school didn't even have virology classes and you're trying to lecture ME?

Revelation34 posted...

The irony of this post is that people like you call abortion murder.

I'm pro abortion but strongly anti-pro choice actually. And besides I know enough to know the definition of murder so I wouldn't use it where it didn't fit.

KodyKeir posted...

That's actually exactly how it works there, King. Take a grade nine biology class maybe.

Shows what you know. The term you're looking for is virology, not biology, viruses aren't living creatures.

Arcturusisnow posted...

"My body, my choice" doesn't work when your choice kills people that have nothing to do with you. That is you simply choosing to murder people because you are lazy and stupid. And that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS! FoxNews isn't your friend, bro.

But a woman having her unborn baby that shares her blood killed is totally fine? Hahaha, god you can't make this shit up. Also you might want to look up the definition of murder and not throw around a word like that so carelessly. The people who were pissing themselves on command when the media told them to have gotten the shot by now and the rest have decide to "take their chances" (the same way someone "takes their chances" of getting struck by lightning when they go outside on a cloudy day). Leave it at that.

No one ever tried to force you goons not to take the shot, you have no grounds to do the reverse. Not in America anyways, head over to China or something if you want the government to control every bit of your life.

What ever happened to "my body, my choice"? I guess personal autonomy isn't a value after all.

Mead posted...

opportunity to easily propagate and mutate into more dangerous variants

Literally not even how it works btw. I guess spreading misinformation is fine too depending on what side you're on.

Cruddy_horse posted...

Who the fuck cares, let people do what they want to whether it's "cringy" or not.

Cringe Culture is stupid.

cringe take ngtl

Veedrock- posted...

Ah yes, the gambler's fallacy.

Nah I play table top games, priming dice definitely works. The best way to avoid a low die roll is to have just rolled low.

UT1999 posted...

really? what if it was ruled that the park was at fault for the accident though?

99% of the people who drove to the amusement park probably put themselves in greater danger just by getting on the road.

It's like when there's a plane crash or even just malfunction that makes the news and people go "Oh god I'm never flying again!" completely disregarding how many flights happen every day without a hiccup. People get tunnel vision when they sense/hear about danger and while that can be helpful in some situations in can cloud your judgment in others.

It's alright Jen, I"m not the type of snowflake that would let simple words hurt my feelings, go ahead and say what you want to say.

Zareth posted...

Topics purge in around a week's time here, so no, I can't quote a time I admitted I was wrong in the past week, because I didn't say anything extremely fucking stupid then

But you're acting like you know for an absolute fact that all of those people you list haven't admitted a mistake in a purged topic. This ladies and gentlemen is what is know as saying something extremely fucking stupid while refusing to admit you might be wrong.

Zareth posted...

People who have never admitted that they're wrong:

Kyuubi
Wanded
Zeus
Reigning King
Sunny

When have you admitted you were wrong about anything? Can you quote that post? If not you should add your own name to the list.

EvilMegas posted...

Lol instead of doing the human thing "I was wrong and I apologize. That was out of line" he doubled down on the ignorance.

Are you trying to call him less than human or something? Beyond that... his comment about you being out of touch seems to be true if you actually think that people admit they are wrong even when shown facts (note that this particular case isn't even about facts since no one can factually say what the intent of the person who wrote the post was and at best we can make conjecture so no one would wrong for saying they think one way or another and would only be wrong if they clained they knew for certain) is at all common.

Mead posted...

I dont dislike you, but you dont need to be roaming topics looking for dumb arguments

there is already more than enough of that

...Fine. I'll leave you all to it.

EvilMegas posted...

It's already been explained in this very topic and yet, you the person completely ignorant to the history of the term

"Bon Quisha" absolutely isn't a "term" certainly not one with a "history". God if I brought up some of the names I've heard irl that people have you would probably call me a sterotyping racist for it.

MeteoricBurst posted...

He has the exact same posting style as a (supposedly) conservative race baiting troll on Politics board. Right down to bringing up his own race as some kind of gotcha or legitimacy for his shitty viewpoints. Either it's an alt, copycat or random dumbass. Given how small this place is though I'm betting on one of the first two.

Absolutely obsessed aren't you? No need to derail the thread with your personal vendetta.

Mead posted...

why are you so fucking obnoxious in every topic

go away

"They hated him because he spoke the truth."

If you don't like me put me on ignore.

And suddenly all of the people who threw them under the bus will be back to demanding everyone follow them without question.

MeteoricBurst posted...

Under no circumstances is it acceptable for a councilman to be saying these things. That goes for the black one too. Do you get it now?

I get that you're clearly either sheltered or being deliberately obtuse. Either way I proved my point and I'm satisfied with that.

MeteoricBurst posted...

It didn't make anything irrelevant. You pointing out the black councilman means nothing because neither of them should ever be put on the same level as people on the street. Which is what you did. Their positions demand much higher levels of discretion. So because the black one did it doesn't make this right. Thats the point, full stop. Not sure why you find this concept so hard. Well apparently you don't, since you made that other statement about the mods. But thats why I assumed you were mocking me, because you didn't apply the same logic to the councilman. And well if you post exactly like well known gimmick troll posters I don't know what you want me to tell you.

Even by PotD standards your reading comp needs work. You keep talking about me comparing this council member to a normal guy but that never happened. What I was saying with the second example (cool how you totally missed the point of the first example) was that the idea some people itt have expressed that saying the word regardless of any context makes you a racist is absurd. I wasn't saying the same context applies to this guy, it's crazy I need to point that out to you.

Here's a third example to hopefully spell things out for you. If someone asks the question "What was the orginal title of the most well know mystery novel of all time, 'And then there were None' by Agatha Christie?" Someone who gives the correct answer wouldn't be a racist they would just be stating a true fact. Same with the answer to the question "What was the name of H.P. Lovecraft's black cat?"

Metalsonic66 posted...

Considering it was a Honda dealership and not some no-name used car lot on the side of the highway... yeah. Unlikely anyone is paying cash there except Tony Montana.

Are you trying to say a young black woman can't have a lot of money to spend on her first car? Careful, her brother might try to take legal action against you too for implying she's not wealthy.

Metalsonic66 posted...

You have to sign your name like 50 times to get a car loan

Uhh... wow, did you just assume she had to get a loan to purchase the car and couldn't afford to buy it outright with cash??? Isn't that pretty, like, racist of you? I mean there's no way that could have been an honest assumption you made based off of common knowledge or anything, you must have had some ulterior and hurtful motive behind your post.

EvilMegas posted...

"It's not racist, even though I don't understand the context!" Said every white people itt

I guess open insults and racism against white people like this is cool on Gamefaqs now?

Sarcasthma posted...

Quick, someone tell that council member that Reigning_King gave him the pass!

I give everyone the pass, it's just a stupid word. I'm no racist so I don't try to restrict people's freedom of speech based on their skin color even if that speech isn't nice.

MeteoricBurst posted...

Hilarious. I guess that's you mocking me. Since you couldn't come up with an actual argument to what I said about you putting a sitting councilman on the same level as random street men not holding him to account. Higher standards indeed.

PS. You show all the signs of a troll account. Probably an alt. You sound exactly like Savoots from the Politics board. Roundabout arguments defending racists while ignoring all posts that debunk your bullshit. You even have the exact same "but I'm actually black!" gimmick too.

I literally just didn't feel like responding to you since you seemed to miss another one of my posts where I explicitly used the example of a black council member which made your post largely irrelevant.

Reigning_King posted...

Think about it like this. What if this council member guy was black himself and he pulled the exact same stunt for the exact same (claimed) reason?

Post #39 btw.

Beyond that I'm not obligated to respond to everyone you know.

Your post didn't debunk anything, my point still stands. Also are you calling the fact that I'm black a gimmick? That's one of the reasons I don't bring up my race often, I mean it's irrelevant 99.9% of the time but it also has a nice side effect that when people see me post something """racist""" or "right wing" (i.e. "horrible") they automatically assume I'm white. They reveal themselves to be the actual racists by associating my two "evils" with one race only.

America_Dude posted...

Oh wow, I didnt know defending racism and questioning whether it was just racism or racism racism would get me moderated! Who knew defending someone calling someone else a house n-word would be offensive to people?! Fuck me!

Well I hold the mods to higher standards than normal users so I figured they'd, you know, read my post and see I wasn't doing any of those things you claim I was. I guess that was giving them too much credit. Although there was one part of the post that I phrased a bit vaguely so maybe I should give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they interpreted it wrong.

Also I have to wonder if they knew I myself was black if they would still assume the worst about my intentions.

Wow, I was not expecting that to get modded. I would pay good money to see anyone on the moderation team try to justify that one, I mean I know they would try but seeing their "logic" would be worth the cost alone. A shame the dispute system was changed so they don't even have to bother doing that anymore.

To say nothing of this particular story or whatever political thing TC is trying to get at, I do really appreciate how well rocks work as weapons.

We've transcribed the human genome, gone to the moon, filled vast libraries with the creative and investigative work of humanity, invented technology that allows people to communicate across the globe almost instantly, and crafted weapons that can vaporize entire cities in an instant and despite all that from the dawn of humanity until today hitting someone in the head with a rock is still a great way to kill them no matter who they are. Something about the simplicity and timelessness just grabs me.