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| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 1:30:43 PM #402 | No, you didn't "convince" me of anything. But given my complete lack of impression of him in those previous games where I had zero skin in it, it's at least forcing me to consider things. I'm still gutting him here. And perhaps I'm being stubborn, but I can still read the Kirby/bct interaction with Kirby as scum. I've got a lot of work meetings this afternoon (been reading here during some of the more boring ones so far), but I plan to do a reread with these new possible perspectives in a couple of hours. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 11:45:31 AM #385 | How do you confirm Kirby? From my pov, he hopped into a very noncommital course of action, where corrik did all the "work". It's impossible for Kirby to look bad from any town flips, and he won't contribute to any potential scum lynches, and gives town very little contextual information going into day 2. It honestly just feels like he's trying to cover his ass after getting what he thinks is unwarranted attention very early on. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 10:17:27 AM #365 | Votals have ulti voting twice --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 10:03:25 AM #359 | My read on ulti is that, similar to ctes, I really dislike the attempt to early poe. It feels scummy to try to make a falsely limited choice this early. On day 2 or 3 after we all have some confirmed information, then sure. Good strategy. Day 1? No. As scum, it's so easy to make a list like that without your team on there. The bravado with which he exclaimed certain people to be town or scum, along with his general posting attitude, irritate me. In general, any time one of our vets post about how great they are, it makes me more likely to think they're compensating town points as scum. But I also know I can't read the guy for shit, and he's been legitimately inquisitive this game in a way where it feels like he's at least doing a good job of showing others that he's looking for scum. And that feels far more townie to me than fretting over his vote, or riding on corrik's coattails. So it's net null and I could go either way. Ben, my other neutral, is because nothing he's said this game has made me feel... anything, really. He's just there. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 9:27:11 AM #351 | Corrik7 posted... Why are you neutral on Ulti and don't find him as town or scum? Let's assume you don't have a bias and you aren't rainman who can always make an accurate read and simply read him wrong one time last game.I assured you that my bias against you had nothing to do with the game. My bias on Ulti has everything to do with the game. Why are you so sure that I am not playing to win, and that I would rather see you be wrong above everything else? Where does your bias come in? Is that why you stick to lame setup analysis? It's certainly the easier way to be active. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 9:16:05 AM #346 | And ctes, you're right about how it was wrong for me to call you out after not even a full day for the sin of only... not posting much other than a hello. I'm sorry for that, and obviously this game should not interfere with our actual lives. I got carried away. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 9:14:24 AM #345 | Corrik7 posted... Peaf, you think Ulti is town? Peace___Frog posted... Ulti and ben I am neutral on but for very different reasons. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 9:13:53 AM #344 | That's quite reductionist. Setup analysis is fake content, so I can see why you'd project your feelings onto others. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 9:12:50 AM #342 | Hey ctes. Thanks for the insight on isquen last game. I don't really remember much of what he did there so that's certainly a big blind spot for me. I agree with your last paragraph 100%. It's why I was interested in bct's setup. Regardless of how open or solved it is, I only cared about the "simple" part. So that's how I'd prefer to play. Obviously if everyone else wants to NL them so be it. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 9:03:32 AM #338 | Corrik7 posted... Bad logic =/= scumMy argument is not that they use bad logic. Reread. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 8:39:07 AM #334 | Focusing on my Kirby quote in that post once more, I don't agree that that logic holds any water. If there were multiple other trains being pursued then it would be relevant. But other than Kirby there was nothing else going on. So rather than have 2 (of 2, or 3) scum at the start of one lynch, it's a totally reasonable strategy to just throw darts at the board and see where they land. In fact, I'd argue that it's the better strategy! If Ben doesn't catch on, then maybe igcd would. Or vice versa. That point in the game was so, so early, that scum not being concentrated would be ideal for them. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 8:35:51 AM #332 | Isquen posted... Meh. Stuck at work til 5 Eastern, on a short break. My logic is thus: Pulling this post back up - beyond my initial analysis of "isquen cares what it looks like too much", notice also that all he has to say about the possibility of Kirby being scum is "oh it'll become obvious eventually." But then in his math he assumes that scum team just isn't awake, if Kirby is town. Meanwhile there's only one player who is not in US time, meaning 1 (or 2) of the players on Kirby would thus be scum. That's the insinuation. But if Kirby is scum then of course there's no possibility of scum hammer! Kirby321 posted... Ulti's point on Isquen is interesting. I agree that scum probably wouldn't try to splinter on me instead of waiting a bit to see where things go before putting down a vote. I'll give Isquen a pass for now. So this is in reply to ulti's comment on the previous page. UltimaterializerX posted... If Isquen is scum, and he knows Kirby is town, why splinter the wagon? Occulam's says Isquen is town in this case. This comment does not consider that isquen and Kirby can both be scum. Reading kirby's post in this light, if kirby and isquen are both scum, then kirby was able to do a nice little distance away from him, and isquen from him. They both basically avoided saying anything about the other. Both isquen and kirby's posts make a lot more sense with the reading that they are both scum together. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 8:34:11 AM #331 | I apologize in advance for the formatting of my next post. I'm on mobile and was using my notes app to keep the quotes as I looked through the topic. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 8:12:08 AM #328 | Corrik7 posted... Peaf literally hates me as a person, so it is possible that is bleeding through mucking up what looks like an obvious read.Lol --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 7:47:59 AM #324 | I'd rather be special'd than have a no lynch, for the record. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 7:41:59 AM #319 | You are concerned about me but didn't actually reply to anything I posted last night. Super cool, my guy. As far as activity goes, I'm still extremely underwhelmed by ctes. IGCD and Sbell I feel very good about. Sultan I'm not as confident on, but am definitely leaning town. Corrik and Kirby have made a great show of being active without really doing much of anything, but frankly I think Kirby comes off looking way worse here. While corrik's posts are, in my opinion, an active waste of time and energy, he's at least putting his time and energy into them. Kirby feels like he's skating by behind corrik, not really doing much of anything at all. Could be lazy town, but that's not my impression of him from previous games. So I've put him in my scum pile. Ulti and ben I am neutral on but for very different reasons. Isquen is scum. Kirby, I was especially pissed off last night when corrik not only put words in my mouth unrelated to this game, but he also outright stated that I would rather lose if he and I are both town just because I don't want to see him win. That's rude and uncalled for. I joined Mafia for the first time in over a decade, and corrik is so self-absorbed that he thinks I'd prefer to bring bct's game down just to spite him? Holy shit, talk about thinking you're the center of the universe! I kept all of that out of the game, and he brought it up only to shit talk me. So yes, I was very "vitriolic". --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Andy plays the Dark Souls of video games |
| Peace___Frog 08/17/22 7:28:10 AM #65 | andylt posted... So if you're playing online can people just come and snuff out your bonfires? Sounds annoying!Not quite, this is a special npc thing. Though when you're invaded you can't use a bonfire until either you or the invader dies. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:32:50 PM #287 | UltimaterializerX posted... I lean scum on PeafOk yeah, don't gaslight me bro. This wasn't that long ago! --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:23:54 PM #286 | UltimaterializerX posted... Im allowed to change my mind when given new information. Thats, uh kind of an easy one bro.Oh definitely. When I caught up I thought that post was relatively recent, so it felt like a quick change of heart. The inability is because you totally fucked my brain with your princess claim last game. As an outsider with 0 information except for flips, I was convinced that you were scum after that. Even up to the time that you were host confirmed (I think earlier in the topic I said your death, but obviously that was after you were host confirmed), I had no inclinations that you were being truthful at all. That was a very difficult time for me. I audibly said "what the fuck" when it happened. My walls can confirm. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:19:36 PM #284 | Damn you really got me there. You better vote for me now if you don't want to receive explicit pictures. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:17:32 PM #281 | IfGodCouldDie posted... Full schedule including bathroom use so we can chastise you for not posting when pooping.Pooping is the best time for posting!!! --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:16:08 PM #279 | UltimaterializerX posted... We can just lynch the dude, you know.Sure but I really thought I had something with isquen there. And if you lean scum on me, why try to partner with me? --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:15:15 PM #278 | UltimaterializerX posted... He bailed hard once Corrik came in.I have a ceramics class every Tuesday evening from 6:30 to 9:30, give or take, with a 30-45m drive, give or take (ty, pittsburgh traffic), and generally work until at least 5:30. Do you want the rest of my schedule? Or would you prefer that I cover my phone with ceramics glaze just to satisfy you? --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:13:16 PM #275 | Corrik7 posted... It reeks of what I posted above, but be weary. Peaf literally hates me as a person, so it is possible that is bleeding through mucking up what looks like an obvious read.Don't put words into my mouth. I have not done any personal attacks this game, and I plan to stick to that. I'm in this to win and I wouldn't have signed up otherwise. Can you keep your own personal opinions outside of the game? If not, then replace out. I'm upset that nobody else cares that isquen only cares about what his vote looks like to others in the game, and that he didn't vote for that reason. I'm upset that corrik distracted us for multiple pages with no intent to do any real scumhunting. Doing math on the setup on day 1 is great for you to do in your notes but if you're not combining it with any actual hunts then you're wasting town's breath. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 5:37:03 PM #227 | So it's possible there isn't even a doctor. Wow corrik, great work this afternoon! --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 4:45:04 PM #219 | Kirby321 posted... I'm liking Corrik's posts so far; he's really moving the discussion forward and articulating his points well.You disgust me. Corrik has not done anything to actually determine who scum is. He has posted about the setup and gotten upset at the host. Big whoop. The game of mafia is determine scum and lynch them. Corrik's game plan is to let the cop save the day on day 2, and then have no additional info. He can skate by and do none of the hard work, hooray. And lest we forget, it's possible that godfather is still in the game. Even if cop hits a scum, it's possible that they are not clear. In which case corrik's plan is to waste a vanilla or two for basically no real info. It's just lazy content. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 3:05:59 PM #205 | "I will spend time doing role meta on the host rather than search for scum nectar that is a good use of my time. The only way I could make it better is asking power to claim so that scum knows who to kill tonight!" Fuck off with your useless posts. If you're going to play then play. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 3:04:02 PM #202 | Again - regardless of setup and how many scum there are, you are trying to take a less-than-100% chance that scum kills power into a 100% chance that scum kills power. Additionally, you are guaranteeing we will only get one single cop scan for day 2. I'd prefer the possibility that we get two scans going into day 3. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 1:58:28 PM #182 | Assuming he is correct with his own role meta, that is. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 1:58:02 PM #181 | Please don't claim. Corrik would make it 100% chance of scum killing power, compared to 2/8 (25%) with no claim. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 1:56:18 PM #180 | Role meta is some pretty fake engagement here. Might as well purchase some Twitter followers to boost your ego with how you're trying to steer the conversation. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 1:28:50 PM #166 | Corrik7 posted... You do not think the post I highlighted from ulti is performative?I think that everything about ulti is performative and that I am physically incapable of forming an unbiased opinion of the man. In the Chris Madness game I was convinced that ulti was scum up until the moment he flipped. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 1:22:53 PM #159 | Join me on isquen. He's talking like he knows too much about scum, and his other posts are very performative. For the record, i also expressed concern about sbell for repeating that he was town. Once is enough, twice or more is excessive. I reviewed T1 of the last game and sbell had a totally different vibe there, so I'm good with him for now. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 393: Raid on Bungling Bay |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 1:18:19 PM #249 | Incredible --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 11:29:17 AM #128 | I'll beg for bct's grace and a stern warning for my first game back. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 11:10:55 AM #122 | Avoid** --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 11:10:45 AM #121 | Obellisk posted... who is deleting posts?Sorry, that was me. I voted with the wrong format and wanted to aid confusion. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:52:49 AM #118 | ##Vote: Isquen --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 10:51:37 AM #116 | Isquen, why are you more concerned with how it "looks" than you are with his scumminess? --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 9:59:39 AM #101 | Doing it once in my book is a null tell. Doing it multiple times, across multiple calendar days, is whack (without explicit proof). --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 9:33:06 AM #94 | ctesjbuvf posted... Minimal content Ctes, we're on page 2 now and have had someone get more than halfway to the votes needed for a lynch. Surely you can give us more than whatever your single post was. Even corrik, notoriously slim with his words, has given us more to work with after twelve hours. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 9:28:55 AM #92 | Unofficial votals [3] Kirby - Ulti, Ben, (IGCD), Kirby [1] Ben - IGCD [1] SBell - Sultan [1] IGCD - Isquen [0] Peaf - (IGCD) --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 9:17:24 AM #84 | Regardless of d1 special or not, I'm likely to be busy on Thursday evening now so it'll be tomato- tomato for me either way. ##NoExtension --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 9:15:53 AM #83 | Obellisk posted... I am completely open to discussing that with you.My suspicion of you is entirely in line with sultan's, actually. TheSultanOfSlam posted... Stating you're town a bunch of times seems like a scum moveWhere kirby and ben feel like they're actually joking around (though Kirby is admittedly far more panicky now than earlier), your silliness came across as very flat and forced. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 7:29:23 AM #67 | Obellisk posted... Ben is town.I'm thinking the other half is the problem tbh --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/16/22 7:26:57 AM #66 | TheSultanOfSlam posted... Peaceful frog last time you played where you scum or town and how did it go?My guy, does it matter? People change a lot in a decade. To answer your question, I was scum and replaced out for inactivity because i stopped caring about board Mafia. I only did aimfia after that, and only the players who are good at that remember their history. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/15/22 11:04:16 PM #45 | Kirby321 posted... Peaf, have you played or spectated any Mafia games before? Just curious. Isquen called you a rookie, but I want to make sure that's correct.I dabbled in aimfia and got started on a separate board that fett happened to post to, and he invited me to a game on CE. I had fun with it and probably played like trash, and eventually came over to the b8 big leagues, where I got overwhelmed and stomped on, both on board and aim. I basically ignored Mafia for over a decade, until i decided to check in on one of the recent games here and I got to see corrik arguing over a pineapple. Since then, I've followed the games with some level of interest. Hence me calling myself the top mafia lurker in a recent signup topic. I vividly remember one time where the best player ever gave me friendly advice over the phone or skype, and I don't think I've ever thanked him properly for it. I was young and bad when I last played, so it'll be fun to be old and bad now. But this is all fake content, really. I'm just sitting on my rocking chair and talking about days gone by. ----- Sbell, if ulti tries to special you as he did han, you will truly be ok with not extending the day? --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/15/22 10:33:37 PM #34 | I agree, but want it clarified ahead of time so that if and only if there is no clear consensus at day-end, we have a fallback plan. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/15/22 10:18:36 PM #30 | PunishedBen posted... See post #8I asked how, not where or why. --- ~Peaf~ |
| Topic | Simple Mafia Topic 1: My intro to hosting Mafia |
| Peace___Frog 08/15/22 10:17:05 PM #29 | I think it's safe to assume 6. I would like for ##bct to clarify what rules are in place for tiebreakers, and what his preferred vote format for day extension is. --- ~Peaf~ |
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