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Tyranthraxus posted...

There's essentially zero difference in this specific case between sentencing him to life vs sentencing him to 3 years.

See that's where people piss me off. They think because they can stop the consequences before the full measure it makes everything better. It doesn't. Not to the core principles of the thing. That jury didn't sentence him to three years. They sentenced him to the rest of his natural life in prison. Intent makes for a hell of a difference.

Hoodroar posted...

There is no alternative to what you're complaining about but just not punishing people for crimes at all.

I feel like you're missing my point. Let me state it more clearly. There are things you cannot fix after the fact no matter what the suggested reparation is. You can only move forward wearing the weight of it.

Hoodroar posted...

Financial compensation at great enough levels can make one's remaining years better than they'd have otherwise been.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep better at night.

and yet in the most literal of senses it IS unrecoverable. Three years of a mans life were stolen with nothing ever truly balancing those scales. Is that less serious than outright killing them? I'd argue it shouldn't be considered to be. Shouldn't be allowed to be. Life sentences should demand the absolute gravity of a death penalty because that IS in fact what they are. Just a very slow, and arguably more cruel, one.

Tyranthraxus posted...

You can undo a life sentence. You can't bring someone back to life.

Lemme know when you can give years and decades back to an individual. Until then, they're both as permanent.

hockeybub89 posted...

In America, we give most criminals life sentences since we do all we can to make sure they will never reintegrate into society. If people want convicts to fuck off and not rejoin society or be rehabilitated, then they need to go all the way and back the idea of death penalty for all crimes.

Personally, I think there is always a use for those people. Even if they can't be reintegrated, we can study them and put them to work behind bars.

Sadly true. This country is far too hung up on the idea of retributive justice despite constant evidence it does not work.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Ideally, death penalty, but apparently that's going too far nowadays.

Speaking of idiotic arguments. The people for life without parole but against the death penalty don't seem to be self aware enough to realize they're playing semantic games. True life sentences are nothing more than a death penalty via indeterminate time. They need the fiction to sleep better at night saying their adult imaginary friend did the killing rather than human hands. I've zero use for such people.

Again, the ones too dangerous for rehabilitation need to be escorted off this mortal coil entirely. Warehousing them is as you say, fucking stupid.

Life sentences are a waste of time and money. Either the prisoner is capable of being rehabilitated and should eventually, at some date, transition back into society, they're mentally incompetent and need to be in a facility, or they're too dangerous to rehab and should be removed from the gene pool with utmost haste.