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Yesterday's results:

(1) Karkat Vantas - 27
(5) Dad - 3

Karkat's rampage through the bracket continues.

(6) Jake English - 5
(2) Roxy Lalonde - 25

Even kids are getting quintupled.

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Time for another x2 Double Contest Match Combo.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 3

Scourge Sisters Division

(1) Terezi Pyrope

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/BL1ND-JUST1C3-1NV3ST1G4T1ON

vs.

(4) Gamzee Makara

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/miracles


(6) Dirk Strider

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/infinity-mechanism

vs.

(2) Vriska Serket

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/killed-by-br8k-spider


Alternate Voting Format:
Terezi Pyrope
Gamzee Makara

Dirk Strider
Vriska Serket

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

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Karkat Vantas
Roxy Lalonde

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And new Ashe model.



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Yesterday's results:

(1) John Egbert - 18
(4) Spades Slick - 12

Two iterations of Jack down in consecutive days.

(6) Jade Harley - 17
(2) Aradia Megido - 13

Four quarter-finalists, four original kids. Nice variety guys!

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BOARD 8 VOTING SURE IS CONFUSING.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 3

Crabbies Ginger Beer Division

(1) Karkat Vantas

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/galactic-cancer

vs.

(5) Dad

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/showtime-original-mix-2


(6) Jake English

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/emerald-terror

vs.

(2) Roxy Lalonde

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/even-in-death


Alternate Voting Format:
Karkat Vantas
Dad

Jake English
Roxy Lalonde

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

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I can see why you're using the Princess analogy, given the similar outcomes, but they're different kinds of roles. A Princess is intended as a pitfall to be avoided by the town; bad when killed, even worse when lynched. This is made clearer when you consider that original variations of that roles only had it activate upon lynch rather than both lynch and death at night. A scum mayor is a get out of jail free card, and a flawless, foolproof one at that.

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scum executioner, scum doublevoter

These are grey areas, particularly the executioner. The one principle you can never abandon when making a game, is that town has to have influence in every lynch. Whether it's day 1 with no scum whatsoever on the lynch, or an end of game scum hammer after one town votes incorrectly at do or die. Hence, no mayor or unlynchable, which give town no say in the matter. Boko's idea still ultimately wrestles control of the lynch away from town, even with the stipulations nerfing it.

Executioner and doublevoter kind of meddle with the lynch rather than decide it though. I think both have clauses that mean they can't cause lynches without town input. The Doublevoter in Touhou couldn't give scum an auto-win at do-or-die iirc. Executioner is a pretty bad role, which is why it's never used. It's a lot more telegraphed than a scum Day Vig, and still needs a town vote so it can't be 100% scum influenced.

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CoolCly posted...
So what about a scum dayvig that could end the day?

Same thing. It's preventing town from potentially getting a scum lynch. Except it's killing town instead of directly nullifying a scum lynch. Not to say this is always what would definitely happen, but you have to account for optimum use.

You could argue that scum could use it on their own team to appear town, but that's still taking the destiny of the lynch out of town's hands.

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The inclusion of a scum mayor breaks a game before you've even started accounting for balance, is what I was getting at. It's not bad due to a Mayor essentially being confirmed town after they've used their ability, but rather because it directly blocks town from achieving it's core aim. Scum Unlynchable would be exactly the same, not because it needs to be killed at night, but because it can't be lynched in the first place.

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You can't balance for a scum mayor. It's a role that goes against the very foundations of mafia as a game. Most town and scum power roles add elements to a game, they don't take anything away. A town mayor, as an isolated role, changes a successful lynch into a no lynch, in a situation where he isn't sure whether he's saved town or scum. A scum mayor could knowingly spare a scumbuddy from the lynch, and deny town the fundamental objective of lynching scum, which is the sole goal when you strip everything back. It'd be like stopping someone from winning Snakes and Ladders by arbitrarily adding an extra ten spaces on.

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If it wasn't already explicit enough, Scum Mayor is banned.

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Olaf is one of the stronger Riven counters. You can't really trade with him, as with most melee champs.

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For a bit of perspective, Aradia received the same number of nominations as John and Roxy, and more than any other non-#1 seed.

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Weakupedia posted...
I'm not even sure what Korean fast food is!

Hot Dogs.

Or maybe cold dogs, I'm not entirely sure how they serve them.

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Spades Slick
Aradia Megido

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Topic reader: Be Luis

You attempt to be Luis, but you cannot be Luis as someone is already being Luis. You do however stop to vote all the same.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 3

ghostyTrickster Division

(1) John Egbert

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/heir-transparent

vs.

(4) Spades Slick

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/tall-dark-and-loathsome


(6) Jade Harley

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/umbral-ultimatum

vs.

(2) Aradia Megido

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew


Alternate Voting Format:
John Egbert
Spades Slick

Jade Harley
Aradia Megido

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

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Jade Harley (She's had an easy path so far)

I think most people were quite surprised she got past CD!

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Yesterday's results:

(1) Dave Strider - 23
(4) Bro - 3

Not terribly surprising.

(3) Rose Lalonde - 14
(7) Jack Noir - 12

Rose squeaks by in a close one.

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Dave Strider
Rose Lalonde

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Yesterday's results:

(1) Terezi Pyrope - 26
(8) Snowman - 3

M1SS L1COR1C3 ST1CK. D3L1C1OUS!

(5) Diamonds Droog/Draconian Dignitary - 11
(4) Gamzee Makara - 18

That clown better hope you find him dead. What you're gonna do to him will be much less painful that way.

(3) Wayward Vagabond/Warweary Villein - 13
(6) Dirk Strider - 16

Think this might be the closest match yet. Either way, poor WV had the fight ripped straight out of him.

(7) Kanaya Maryam - 5
(2) Vriska Serket - 24

Forever unrequited.

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We're into ROUND 3, and now, God help you, you're getting fan art. Also, two matches a day from now on.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 3

Beat Mesa Division

(1) Dave Strider

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/clockstopper

vs.

(4) Bro

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/knifes-edge


(3) Rose Lalonde

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/dance-of-thorns

vs.

(7) Jack Noir

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/checkmate


Alternate Voting Format:
Dave Strider
Bro

Rose Lalonde
Jack Noir

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

There's still half an hour or so in the previous topic, beeteedubs, if you're leaving it late to vote.

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Snowman
Diamonds Droog
Dirk Strider
Vriska Serket

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If any of you are under the impression that I am spending any time painstakingly selecting the optimum pictures/music each day, you are sorely mistaken!

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Yesterday's results:

(1) Karkat Vantas - 29
(8) Andrew Hussie - 2

This whole shebang wouldn't be possible without Hussie, but the shamless self-inset ends at the hands of Karkat.

(5) Dad - 20
(4) Auto Responder - 11

An immortal 13-year old version of Dirk may be the favoured splinter, but he isn't quite a universal constant.

(3) Eridan Ampora - 10
(6) Jake English - 21

People seemed to take more to Jake's brand of Hope than Eridan's. Who'd have thought.

(10) Davesprite - 2
(2) Roxy Lalonde - 29

Roxy matches Karkat all the way, and against an arguably tougher opponent to boot. It's all setting up quite nicely!

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BOY. YOU THERE. BOY. QUIT ALL THIS SCURRYING AROUND AND VOTE IN THIS TOPIC. IT IS LESS IRRATIONAL THAN THE OTHER ONES. COOKIES WERE PROMISED. YOU DO NOT SAY NO TO COOKIES. THIS IMPUDENCE IS INSUFFERABLE. YOU ARE STUPID STUPID DUmb oh wait there's a caps lock.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 2

Scourge Sisters Division

(1) Terezi Pyrope

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/terezi-owns

vs.

(8) Snowman

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/your-universe


(5) Diamonds Droog/Draconian Dignitary

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/carbon-nadsat-cuestick-genius

vs.

(4) Gamzee Makara

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/midnight-calliope


(3) Wayward Vagabond/Warweary Villein

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/ruins-rising

vs.

(6) Dirk Strider

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/time-on-my-side


(7) Kanaya Maryam

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/darling-kanaya

vs.

(2) Vriska Serket

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/spider8reath


Alternate Voting Format:
Terezi Pyrope
Snowman

Diamonds Droog
Gamzee Makara

Wayward Vagabond/Warweary Villein
Dirk Strider

Kanaya Maryam
Vriska Serket

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

Lots of good characters today, in my humble opinion.

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Karkat Vantas
Dad
Jake English
Roxy Lalonde

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Yesterday's results:

(1) John Egbert - 26
(8) Peregrine Mendicant/Parcel Mistress - 2

The Windy Thing > The Mendy Ring

(5) fedorafreak - 5
(4) Spades Slick - 22

Now we know who pulls off a plain, serviceable hat to the greater degree.

(3) Clubs Deuce/Courtyard Droll - 10
(6) Jade Harley - 18

So much for no-one caring about Jade.

(10) Jane Crocker - 12
(2) Aradia Megido - 16



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Everybody into the god damn topic. I've got a post full of characters, a bracket full of losers, and a social schedule full of better things I could be doing.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 2

Crabbies Ginger Beer Division

(1) Karkat Vantas

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/karkats-theme

vs.

(8) Andrew Hussie

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/hussie-hunt


(5) Dad

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/Harlequin-2

vs.

(4) Auto Responder

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/battle-brotocol


(3) Eridan Ampora

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/violet-prince

vs.

(6) Jake English

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/dapper-dueling


(10) Davesprite

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/davesprite

vs.

(2) Roxy Lalonde

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/vodka-mutiny


Alternate Voting Format:
Karkat Vantas
Andrew Hussie

Dad
Auto Responder

Eridan Ampora
Jake English

Davesprite
Roxy Lalonde

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

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Whoops, just realised there was no ez voting format.

John
Spades
Jade
Aradia

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Scum dayvig was never taboo, to my knowledge.

This. So long as it doesn't end day early.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus posted...
From: Luis_Sera89 | #026
Only lamers abstain.
your point?

Yeah, I realised fairly quickly there'd be no satisfying conclusion to this.

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Only lamers abstain.

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Oi, no voting based off of songs.

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Yesterday's results:

(1) Dave Strider - 29
(8) The Condesce - 0

Perhaps the only surprise here was that it was a complete whitewash.

(5) Nepeta Leijon - 9
(4) Bro - 20

Nepeta doesn't get destroyed, but it's a totally non-ironic brotherly strife in the next round.

(3) Rose Lalonde - 23
(6) Tavros Nitram - 6

uHHH, OW

(7) Jack Noir - 17
(2) Doc Scratch - 12

In what was agreed to be the toughest match yet, one inheritor of guardian powers usurps the first guardian.

Semi's votes were late, but wouldn't have changed any outcomes regardless.

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Bluh bluh more matches.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
-No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 2

ghostyTrickster Division

(1) John Egbert

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/savior-of-the-waking-world

vs.

(8) Peregrine Mendicant/Parcel Mistress

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/litrichean-rioghail


(5) fedorafreak

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/shade

vs.

(4) Spades Slick

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/the-ballad-of-jack-noir


(3) Clubs Deuce/Courtyard Droll

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/lunar-eclipse

vs.

(6) Jade Harley

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/savior-of-the-dreaming-dead


(7) Jane Crocker

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/cyan-beast

vs.

(2) Aradia Megido

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/temporal-shenanigans

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

Man, this is much more time consuming than round 1 was.

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Gengar

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You probably won't see Varus much in competitive play. When you're using his Q, you're reducing his all-round dps by not auto-attacking. If you just auto-attack, you aren't getting the extra Blight damage that he needs to compete with the likes of Graves and Vayne. It's a vicious circle.

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Dave Strider
Nepeta Leijon
Rose Lalonde
Jack Noir

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Yesterday's results:

(3) Wayward Vagabond/Warweary Villein - 28
(14) Serenity - 0

Ouch. SFF'd to oblivion.

(6) Dirk Strider - 19
(11) Geromy - 9

Dirk not quite as impressive as his older self it seems.

(7) Kanaya Maryam - 16
(10) Sweet Bro - 12

Hmm, Kanaya weakness or Sweet Bro strength? WHO KNOS

(2) Vriska Serket - 24
(15) Casey - 4

Salamanders? What losers!!!!!!!!

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On the advent on Round 2, we now have HERO MODE pictures, as well as MUSIC. Lucky you. Today is also a demonstration of how stacked things are about to get.

Rules
-Only vote once, no alt voting, don't be stupid etc.
-Do I really need to explain this? Vote for the character you like best. The one with most votes wins. Simple.
-Oh. I suppose voting lasts 24 hours from the first post. No keeping tallies either.
NEW! - No you aren't voting based off of the music.

ROUND 2

Beat Mesa Division

(1) Dave Strider

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/red-disc

vs.

(8) The Condesce

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/fuchsia-ruler


(5) Nepeta Leijon

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/nepetas-theme

vs.

(4) Bro

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/beatdown-round-2-2


(3) Rose Lalonde

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black-rose-green-sun

vs.

(6) Tavros Nitram

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/desperado-rocket-chairs


(7) Jack Noir

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black-2

vs.

(2) Doc Scratch

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/scratch


Alternate Voting Format:
Dave Strider
The Condesce

Nepeta Leijon
Bro

Rose Lalonde
Tavros Nitram

Jack Noir
Doc Scratch

Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?=1&tid=427366&tclass=

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OInsaneOne posted...
I should have done that in several games.

Notably AW Mafia. Contemplated claiming a different flavor for a long time but gave Town the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't meta their way to a mislynch because lol CO=Vanilla.

I learned to never give Town the benefit of the doubt.

It wasn't because you claimed a CO, it was the fact you claimed a character from Days of Ruin. Even though the mini-factions all had DoR characters on their safelists >_>

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