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TopicMAGA Bomber HATED his DEMOCRAT MOM and saw Trump as a GOD of GODS!!!
IronicFool
10/29/18 4:58:51 AM
#7
Troll_Police_ posted...
Full Throttle posted...
fatass


Full Throttle posted...
Y9GMAtS
TopicAMA me anything controversial - 'cuz I haz opinions
IronicFool
10/29/18 4:52:49 AM
#13
Lokarin posted...
I support willy-nilly abortion for the first two trimesters (as in no questions asked) and standard abortion for the third trimester up until maybe a week or two before the due date. In addition, I support leeway for accidental infantcide for new parents.

You monster.
TopicAMA me anything controversial - 'cuz I haz opinions
IronicFool
10/28/18 11:56:34 PM
#8
Abortion?
TopicHow do I deal with the fact that I am a complete failure?
IronicFool
10/28/18 10:35:21 PM
#7
EclairReturns posted...
joemodda posted...
nobody is going to read that


That's precisely the point. I just want to moan about my life without anyone actually listening.

Mission accomplished.
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/28/18 4:55:15 PM
#63
TheSlinja posted...
ive always hated the simpsons (wasnt watching it back whenever it was good) so this is an uninformed take, but I really dont think its up to a bunch of non indian people on a message board whether or not apu is racist to indians, its kinda up to them. I just chimed in because this apu situation sounds a lot like people defending black stereotypes that later became widely viewed as offensive

oh and "my one indian friend says apu is fine" is not a defense like it has never been

Ugh, fine. But that cuts both ways. Just because some Indian people find him offensive doesn't mean that most do not. Hell, many enjoy him, and I've even heard it said that they think it's funny how bad his accent is especially since Azaria voices him and sounds bad if you know what the accent is.

If you can't decide what isn't offensive, you can't decide what is either. And since people aren't a hivemind just because they come from the same place and have the same damn skin color, you cannot say something IS offensive just because some people think it is. In fact, by your own argument, you cannot have an opinion at all.
TopicMy GF won't let me play videogames right now.
IronicFool
10/27/18 11:16:50 PM
#12
Dump her
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 10:43:06 PM
#81
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
You really have been walking around with your eyes closed.

No, I just tend to give the benefit of the doubt. There's just no doubt here.

darkknight109 posted...
I mean, look at the 9/11 Truthers - their numbers fucking *exploded* after several high-profile attempts to debunk their claims. Trying to "disprove" a conspiracy theory is like throwing water on a grease fire - it seems like a great idea until you see the resultant fireball.


I pretty much agree with everything else in this section, but I will say this: The truthers DO appear much more legit without the debunking to argue against them. Are there stupid people who will believe them anyway? Of course. And I don't disagree that there are more of them because of the debunking. But there are also fewer people who take them seriously and much less who don't know what the conspiracy is, because of it. You cannot argue that ignorance is the best course of action when something sounds legitimate because most people are not that stupid. I would suggest that debunking them, and then mocking them, is a much better course of action. Otherwise, you have more people knowing less about it when they come into contact with it. Hell, I remember a time myself when I didn't know enough about building infrastructure when I thought they might have a point, but the debunking of the stupidity made far more sense. Knowledge is never a bad thing, even if some choose to ignore it.

darkknight109 posted...
Which is, in and of itself, stupid. If there is no good data, how are we supposed to make good policy decisions?


There's no good data BECAUSE of policy decisions.

darkknight109 posted...
My viewpoint is, and has been for a long time, the drug should have been decriminalized (as incarceration was a grossly disproportionate punishment for simple possession) and extensively studied long before any attempt at legalization was made. After all, pharmaceuticals don't reach store shelves before extensive testing, so why should weed? As it is, there are far too many holes in our knowledge of marijuana's effects, particularly long-term and on those already suffering from mental illness, for me to feel comfortable with legalization.

This is an excellent point, but fails to take into account two things:

1) Despite its extensive use in spite of the ban, there is no indication that there are any long-term side effects. There are some indicators, such as a causal link between causing schizophrenic episodes for people at risk for schizophrenia, but nothing that indicates it is going to cause anything bad that someone isn't already susceptible to.

2) As long as it doesn't hurt other people, someone should be free to do what they want. More on this in a second though.

darkknight109 posted...
This is an excellent argument for making alcohol and cigarettes illegal and a terrible one for legalizing marijuana.

I'll be addressing the entire section you made here (because of the GF text limit) but the point is not that other things should be illegal. Rather the idea is you should be allowed to do what you want so long as it only harms you. Alcohol and cigarettes should NOT be illegal, and neither should weed for the same reasons. But I'm extremely tired and want to make this fast, so I won't elaborate here...for now. Request more if you like.

I'll address the rest later after I sleep.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 6:10:24 PM
#76
ReturnOfFa posted...
The left is dumb, but they're too busy working their peachy jobs and switching between keto/vegan diets to orchestrate something this dumb lmfao

It's been some time since I saw actual dumb.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 5:50:40 PM
#74
BlackScythe0 posted...
IronicFool posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
It's a setup, of course. Just in time for midterms. Orchestrated by the left.


Does that mean the caravan was orchestrated by the right?

No, that was orchestrated by the left too. They need new illegal voters.

I'm like 90% sure you're joking here.

I don't know conservatives find new ways to baffle me with the delusions.

85%
TopicGoing to chick fil a is always like getting into a show at an amphitheatre
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:52:57 PM
#13
FinalFantasyVII posted...
They took the spicy biscuits/sandwiches away and I haven't been back since.

Suck my dick fillet

They did?

FUCK THOSE BIGOTS
Topicdamn MICHALECOLE is ranked #45 in the character contest
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:46:22 PM
#42
I don't see him at all rn.

EDIT: Oh nvm he's 15 now.
TopicGoing to chick fil a is always like getting into a show at an amphitheatre
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:45:29 PM
#9
OhhhJa posted...
IronicFool posted...
They are?

They're anti gay marriage. Maybe some other things I dont know about. I'm sure they're probably pro life too

Oh. Well, I'm anti-marriage so that doesn't bother me. Think we're going too far in the wrong direction tbh
TopicConservative Parents are OUTRAGED after a DRAG QUEEN showed up on CAREER DAY!!!
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:44:29 PM
#22
LinkPizza posted...
IronicFool posted...
LinkPizza posted...
IronicFool posted...
Drag queen is a career? I thought it was more of...a hobby.

Some of them can make A LOT of money...

Hmmm...I mean I AM looking for a job rn...

Maybe you should look into it...

Maybe I will
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:43:20 PM
#71
WarGreymon77 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
It's a setup, of course. Just in time for midterms. Orchestrated by the left.


Does that mean the caravan was orchestrated by the right?

No, that was orchestrated by the left too. They need new illegal voters.

I'm like 90% sure you're joking here.
TopicGoing to chick fil a is always like getting into a show at an amphitheatre
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:42:38 PM
#6
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
And they are bigoted assholes.

They are?

LinkPizza posted...
OhhhJa posted...
And the best customer service

Too good, tbh... Almost creepily...

This really...it's almost scary how good they are. Although I think that might just be other companies dropping the ball. Get your shit together Walmart greeters.
TopicConservative Parents are OUTRAGED after a DRAG QUEEN showed up on CAREER DAY!!!
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:41:02 PM
#20
LinkPizza posted...
IronicFool posted...
Drag queen is a career? I thought it was more of...a hobby.

Some of them can make A LOT of money...

Hmmm...I mean I AM looking for a job rn...
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:39:31 PM
#69
OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Zeus posted...
Considering that all of the packages were immediately flagged and everybody is looking out for them, obviously nobody is in danger.

Dude, are you fucking serious? Live bombs are being sent around - of fucking course people are in danger. Don't be an idiot.

As far as I know, all mail is automatically thoroughly inspected before it ever reaches any major political figure... which is why I have no idea why people would even try to do this on the first place. It's pretty much common knowledge that it doesn't work

Well...plus they were all duds. So they weren't live. But you could argue the attempt itself was endangering, just not the specific situation.

BlackScythe0 posted...
It was a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy theorists don't tend to be the smartest people around.

Also this.
TopicConservative Parents are OUTRAGED after a DRAG QUEEN showed up on CAREER DAY!!!
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:35:29 PM
#18
Drag queen is a career? I thought it was more of...a hobby.
TopicDid you like mean girls more or clueless?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:32:33 PM
#2
Whoa, posting this at a 3 to 3 split. Interesting.
TopicJohnny Depp has been FIRED by DISNEY and will REBOOT Pirates of the Caribbean!!!
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:31:42 PM
#13
helIy posted...
i love the pirates movies dearly

but the last one was fucking garbage

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Well, without Sparrow, I will never watch a Pirates movie again.

These
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:27:42 PM
#37
kind9 posted...
That wasn't my opinion by the way, I was listing the reasons according to that video. You should watch it it's great.


Ugh, do I have to? Can I just trust your summary was accurate?
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:26:42 PM
#65
darkknight109 posted...
You understand that's not what the phrase "hyperpartisan bullshit" (or its more polite synonyms) means, right? I'm not suggesting that the false-flag argument is wrong because Republicans are always wrong, I'm saying that the false-flag argument is scummy because it's born out of a toxic political environment where crafting an elaborate fantasy is seen as preferable to ceding moral ground to your political opponents, no matter how minor.


I...didn't say you were. My point was that dismissing something for being hyperpartisan bullshit is an inherently horrible argument, even if you're right. And I feel the need to reiterate that I think you are right here, just wrong in your approach. It doesn't matter what the issue is, if you stop at 'hyperpartisan bullshit' you've lost the argument.

darkknight109 posted...
Of course I have. I'm a liberal, in a country that is already significantly to the left of the US, and there are plenty of points where I disagree with leftist politics. I think the legalization of marijuana without proper understanding of its long term effects is dangerous. I think the idea of "cultural appropriation" being verboten is nonsense. I think current economic thinking on both sides of the spectrum is unsustainable. To pick just a few issues.


That's good I guess. For marijuana, I could argue that part of the reason long term effects are not known is because of the long term ban, and if things like alcohol and cigarettes are allowed, with KNOWN negative long term impacts, then marijuana should be as well until we can show conclusively that it's much worse. The cultural appropriation is ridiculous on its face to anyone who isn't extreme left (not to suggest the extreme right is any better) and should be opposed. You took a pretty middle ground economic position but I would go on to say that no economic system today would do well in its pure practice. I don't want to get off-topic here, but the point being that some of these things are not inherently left-wing and have little to do with politics (apologies if you're not left wing, I'm guessing based on your use of 'liberal' and your general stance). The marijuana one is a good example though, that does seem to be an inherently left wing position...or libertarian.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:26:38 PM
#64
darkknight109 posted...
You completely missed my point - I understand their argument perfectly well. That's why I'm responding the way I am.

Then you missed my point as well. Hell, even in this topic, I pointed out how the defective nature of the bomb could be just as easily explained by someone not knowing what they were doing. I mean, there was actually zero reason for that clock to be there. But that also lets me understand why someone would think it's a false flag. Bombs aren't hard to build but you need to understand what you're doing. Otherwise, you'll either kill yourself or make something that won't kill anyone. The idea that this is a false flag is valid in this respect, but at the same time there is NO ACTUAL PROOF. I mean, it taking place two weeks before elections COULD be an attempt to garner sympathy I suppose but it could also be the perfect time to actually try something like this to remove political opponents.

darkknight109 posted...
If you stick around this board long enough, you'll find that I routinely argue this exact point and have done so many, many times in the past.

Yeah, I am pretty new here so I don't know most people's point of view beyond what I've seen in that past two weeks. Point taken.

darkknight109 posted...
You can't argue against specific points of a position that doesn't have any. Again, "It's all a big conspiracy by the Democrats!" isn't an argument founded on evidence or logic

I've seen plenty. Here's a short list of their reasoning:

-Postage is not cancelled.
-AAA batteries do not have the requisite power to set off a cap or detonator. 6.4v is the lowest voltage detonator Ive ever heard of (Si) and theyre too expensive for the DoD.
-The pipe is too thin walled to be an effective powder casing, but it definitely isnt powder because the leads go to different ends of the device.
-The pipe is too small to contain enough powder to do anything but make a loud noise, but the pipe is too thin walled to even produce that.
-The leads go to opposite ends of the device, a cap or detonator would be in one end and require both leads be connected to it.
-Everyone says bomb or device but they arent saying what kind of explosive, if there were any it would be part of the news cycle.
-They were delivered simultaneously at various locations around the country, USPS doesnt work like that.
-UPS does not deliver to anyone protected by Secret Service and several of these were sent to SS principles.
-There is absolutely no reason to have a clock taped to this device.
-The flag is an obvious false lead meant to point at Larry fans. Not cool, Larry is a cool dude and doesnt deserve his name being drug through the mud like this. No fan of his would do that.

Hell, even 9/11 truthers had reasons for believing their ideas, and those were summarily debunked. Like you don't need to melt steel to weaken to the point of bending and collapsing if there is enough weight on it. And most points above could be addressed by assuming that the terrorist was inept and that we started to look for the bombs. Hell, I think after the first one or two were delivered the rest were found quickly. It has nothing to do with delivery.
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:04:05 PM
#32
kind9 posted...
Mead posted...
What about the character was actually offensive? He was generally portrayed as more intelligent and respectful than other characters

His portrayal is racist, white Americans think his accent is funny, and he's voiced by a white guy.

What? Are you saying a white guy who was born and raised in India would be racist for having an accent?
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:00:15 PM
#29
Mead posted...
IronicFool posted...
Mead posted...
What about the character was actually offensive? He was generally portrayed as more intelligent and respectful than other characters

Yeah but he had a bunch of kids though so anti-immigration or something.

Plus he had an accent.


Having children and an accent is offensive?

idfk I honestly have no idea how he was offensive besides being a stereotype. He...owned a convenience store as an Indian man?
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:55:48 PM
#27
Mead posted...
What about the character was actually offensive? He was generally portrayed as more intelligent and respectful than other characters

Yeah but he had a bunch of kids though so anti-immigration or something.

Plus he had an accent.
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:49:16 PM
#25
OrangeDawn posted...
Show has been awful for a lot longer than most people want to admit.

Most people seem to think the show has sucked since the early 2000s if not earlier.
TopicThe Simpsons is removing Apu from the show
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:48:30 PM
#23
Revelation34 posted...
argonautweakend posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
I haven't watched The Simpsons in years so eh.


Like, im not a fan of it but simpsons have been bad for years and i havent seen a new episode in maybe a decade so i do not really care.


Neither have I. Doesn't mean you shoudn't care about SJWs being morons.

Pretty much this. I prefer to turn their own arguments against them though.

"The Simpsons is getting rid of their only Indian representation. Racists! Clearly, they hate people of Indian decent. Boycott!"

And then we all boycott the show instead of just not watching.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:42:41 PM
#62
darkknight109 posted...
I can see exactly where they're coming from, which is from a fetid swamp of hyperpartisan bullshit. That's exactly why I'm calling it out in as blunt terms as I am, because treating it like it's a valid viewpoint worthy of discussion is not unlike treating climate skepticism with that same level of respect - it feeds into the incorrect idea that it's something other than completely fabricated nonsense with no basis in reality.


This is what I was talking about before. You get to 'hyperpartisan bullshit' and dismiss it, but that's not enough to make a decent argument against what people are thinking. You are unlikely to change someone's mind as you argue, that's just human nature. But thoughts and ideas presented can...fester. You may change their mind long after the argument if you can present it well enough. You may change the mind of people watching, during or after the argument. But not if you refuse to even try. It's fine to say "This is bullshit" because it does seem to be, but you cannot stop there, you know the opposing arguments and it's better to understand each point and try to disprove it. Dismissing it offhand just because it's bullshit (or for any other reason really) is part of the reason politics are so contentious in the first place. Argue against their specific points, not the general idea. Offer a different point of view and interpretation of events. Explain why they might be wrong, and try to ignore the tendancy to assign blame to a single political side, and you'll be a lot more persuasive.

On that note, I'm not accusing you of anything and don't really even want to know (feel free not to answer, but I hope you'll think about it) have you ever agreed with your political opponents on certain ideas? If not, you might want to avoid throwing around the term 'hyperpartisan bullshit' because the idea that one side is wrong about everything and one side is right, among so many issues, is far more ridiculous than even this stupid false flag bomb theory.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:42:37 PM
#61
darkknight109 posted...
Settle down, Skippy, no need for name calling.

Ah, right, I forgot this is the internet for a moment and people actually do that. I guess I should explain.

Obviously, you are not an idiot. But everyone has their own misled biases, heuristics, and ideological blindness. I'll explain more in a bit when it's more relevant, but essentially, simply dismissing or coming to a full stop without understanding the argument isn't hurting your opposition (even if they are actually being stupid) but your own ability to understand the actual argument they are making. Such a dismissal prevents you from making a solid argument that someone might understand from THEIR point of view and changing their mind. Not only that, but it reeks of a lack of epistemic humility. How can you be sure you're right if you do not truly understand your opposition?

Not in this case, to be fair, but in general.

darkknight109 posted...
I wouldn't know.

Same above. I guess I should've been clearer. Or used an /s tag. Again more on this later, but it is relevant.

darkknight109 posted...
Sure. I also think the idea that the guy that did this is a left-winger trying to pull a frame job is ridiculous to the point of lunacy.

Is it technically possible, in the strictest sense of the term? Yes, in the same way it's also technically possible that Sandy Hook really *was* an inside job with no actual deaths. It's also about as likely, which you've already agreed with.


The Sandy Hook comparison would be even more ridiculous than this one. And part of the issue here is that anyone who did this would have to be insane regardless of motivation. No matter how you slice it, it IS ridiculous to the point of lunacy.

darkknight109 posted...
You're not wrong, but before "birther" caught on as a label, the Obama birth certificate crowd were calling themselves "Obama truthers" or other such nonsense. And the "Sandy Hook Truthers" did use that exact title.

Yeah, the OG truthers were the 9/11 conspiracy nuts, but others have since claimed the title for themselves (presumably because they still think it sounds less crazy than "conspiracy theorist").

Pretty much. Fortunately, words are able to evolve quite quickly, so it sounds just as crazy as conspiracy theorist. In no small part to the 9/11 'truther' nuts.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:22:36 AM
#46
darkknight109 posted...
In other words, instead of being a right-wing terrorist, he's a right-wing terrorist who is bad at his job.

That really doesn't make the situation any better.

I'm...not really arguing with you. I think he's a dumb right-winger.

darkknight109 posted...
I couldn't. See the point I made in my last post - I'm not aware of any actual "false flag" operations that have targeted high profile political leaders with an actual risk of harm or death and puts the culprit at risk of spending the rest of their life in prison. BlackScythe brought up the guy who tried to frame Islamists for a terrorist attack against immigrants, but that's not quite the same thing (since targeting innocents isn't the same as targeting the leaders of your own movement).

Most actual "false flag" movements in politics are like the Republican staffers that recently attempted to donate to a Democrat candidate while claiming they were members of the Communist Party - dumb and scuzzy, but with little risk to their own side.

Well, then you're an actual stupid moron. You're basically like people who think the left-wing if always right but reverse. How does it feel to be an anti-Trump supporter for reasons beyond his politics, and just because you're supposed to disagree? Do you even understand anti-intel?

darkknight109 posted...
"Truther" is basically another term for a conspiracy theorist, one they came up with themselves when they realised that the term "conspiracy theorist" had become synonymous with "barmy nutjob." Thankfully, "truther" has now taken on that exact connotation - maybe even moreso.

Agreed.

darkknight109 posted...
The original truthers were those who insisted that 9/11 was an inside job pulled off by the Bush administration to justify an invasion of the Middle East to help get their oil. There have since been various flavours of truther (all of them completely immune to things like "evidence" and "basic logic"), from the idiots who insisted that Barrack Obama wasn't American to the human shitstains that claimed that Sandy Hook was a CIA inside job to justify the seizure of guns from the populace and that no kids were actually harmed (with all the grieving parents and surviving children being "crisis actors" hired to fake out the role). These days Truthers are usually right-wing, but left-wing variants do exist (like the aforementioned 9/11 truthers, which tended to skew left).

You're reading into the metaphor too much. I tend to agree that 9/11 truthers and birthers are opposite politically, but for the same reasons. Namely, being stupid.

darkknight109 posted...
That's basically correct. A false flag operation is when you commit an act while pretending to belong to an opposing group in order to make them look bad.

I'm glad we can agree on something. But if you can't see where they're coming from, you've already lost. Obviously it's wrong. Don't be obvious in return.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 4:06:39 AM
#44
TheCyborgNinja posted...
He emboldens stupid people frequently, rather than the appropriate approach of shaming them into silence.

Not to say the right does any better. Welcome to...politics? Both sides suck. That's what you get with a two party system. Both sides vying for power, blaming the other side for everything. Frankly, if you think either side is always right or doesn't embolden obvious bullshit, you're an idiot. That said, you are correct that Trump turned out to be more of the same. What a surprise.

TheGreatNoodles posted...
Thanks for the explanations. ^^

Anytime.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:59:36 AM
#41
TheGreatNoodles posted...
I'm confused... What does this have to do with 9/11 (and what is a 'truther')?

Err...nothing? A truther is someone who thinks the government planned 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq by looking at things like melting steel beams in the collapsing buildings as evidence that bombs planted by the government did it. Basically, dumbass conspiracy nuts. Think of them as the same thing here but on the other side of politics.

TheGreatNoodles posted...
As an ignorant Aussie I thought 'false flag' just meant was someone faking the bombing (ergo bombs not designed to explode) or someone bombing their own 'side' (politically) to help delegitimize the other 'side'.

That's not incorrect. That's what some people really think.

Although...I can understand where they are coming from. But you would have to be either a massive conspiracy nut (ala Alex Jones) or be massively stupid to think that. Aside from the fact that it was two weeks before the election (which COULD be evidence I guess) and the fact that none of them went off (which could also be explained by a false flag I guess, but could also be a dumbass terrorist who didn't know what he was doing) there's nothing. Read the parentheses, it's purely circumstantial, hence the 9/11 comparison.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:52:59 AM
#40
BlackScythe0 posted...
Why the fuck are you trying to talk about false flags?

Wait...why are you focusing on the false flag shit when I not only hypothesized it was bullshit but also had far more to say otherwise?
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:30:01 AM
#38
BlackScythe0 posted...
Why the fuck are you trying to talk about false flags?

I pretty much view this as the same way I do 9/11 truthers tbf
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:29:15 AM
#37
BlackScythe0 posted...
Why the fuck are you trying to talk about false flags?

Because of the rest of the topic? And the discussion in general?
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:28:37 AM
#36
Part of the issue here is that this was so stupid in execution, delivery, and planning that it really could be a false flag. But by the same token, if it were a false flag you'd expect it to be at least somewhat competent. It really does seem like a crazy stupid fuck.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:25:11 AM
#34
BlackScythe0 posted...
It seems very likely that the detonation issues were due to bad construction at this point. He was a conspiracy theorist, he probably wasn't a fully functioning individual.

Well...yeah that's what I'd guess. But I'd also see how the issue would be framed as a false flag. But if I really had to guess....

BlackScythe0 posted...
But that doesn't matter, he hasn't been charged with attempted murder, possibly in relation to that specific point. He's been charged with mailing and transporting explosives and making threats which are things he most definitely did. The law doesn't care how well made the bombs were they care that bombs were made and sent to targets.

You may underestimate both sides here. If it's true, then this is a fair but explanable point. If it was a false flag, as some will say, then he's too perfect a suspect. You can't think too literal. And while he is the perfect suspect which is also suspicious from one point of view, he's also not suspicious at all by the same token. Really I could see either side being right here, but if I had to guess I wouldn't take the 9/11 truther side, if you get me.
TopicLmao are people really blaming Trump for those Mail Bombs?
IronicFool
10/27/18 3:14:30 AM
#32
darkknight109 posted...
Zeus posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Zeus posted...
Considering that all of the packages were immediately flagged and everybody is looking out for them, obviously nobody is in danger.

Dude, are you fucking serious? Live bombs are being sent around - of fucking course people are in danger.


You mean non-functioning devices WERE being sent around and nobody is or was being hurt.

The head of the FBI says you are wrong. Which I would think would be obvious, but I guess not.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-says-13-explosive-devices-packages-sent-nationwide-bomb-not-hoax-device-2018-10-26/

Ugh, as much as I hate agreeing with Zeus, there was absolutely zero chance of them going off. I doubt I can get into the finer points of bomb-making here, but one look at the device and it was clear...there was no way it was going off. And even if it did I seriously doubt it would've killed someone, more like maimed.

BlackScythe0 posted...
darkknight109 posted...
So, has a false flag involving the actual attempted murder of a political figure ever been actually carried out in the West? Ever? Because I see a distressing number of people raising that as a serious suggestion (even though the MAGAbomber has now been confirmed to be a die-hard Trump fan), yet I'm not aware of any cases where a coordinated attack on major political figures was done by someone who shared their views and was trying to help their cause.

I am aware, however, of many cases of successful and attempted murder of political figures by people in opposition to them. Wouldn't you think straight away that that's far and away the most likely explanation?


The only recent false flag plan I can think of was that guy who wanted to blow some people up and blame muslims, but he got busted before he could pull it off a while back.

Anyways you're asking why delusional people who have been rejecting reality for years or at least since Trump started telling them to reject reality would choose to reject reality here. I think you got your answer. They choose not to believe things which are inconvenient for them, and the republican party is fostering this conspiracy theory base.

Ugh...maybe? Honestly, this just looks like a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing. Less evidence of a false flag, more that someone saw a TV show and tried to recreate a bomb cargo cult style. Which honestly is the most believable explanation.
TopicCastlevania Season 2 came out on Netflix today
IronicFool
10/26/18 2:29:21 PM
#7
Just finished it. Eight episodes, really good overall. Some of the magic from the first 'season' seems to have been lost, and it's a bit slower as well. But hell, I enjoyed it.
TopicCastlevania Season 2 came out on Netflix today
IronicFool
10/26/18 3:46:11 AM
#1
And yet I see no topics here yet about it. For shame, night dwellers!
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 6:18:16 PM
#47
darkknight109 posted...
Sure, but then you're wasting both time and energy. If you're boiling water at home, that amounts to an increased bill; in the wild, that's more time spent gathering fuel for a fire. Either way, boiling water is substantially easier and, in most cases, sufficient to deal with the hazards of whatever you're drinking.

In most cases. But why take the risk? Unless you're about to die from thirst.
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 3:46:19 PM
#37
darkknight109 posted...
Depends on the nature of the contamination. Boiling water in a pot is much easier than setting up a steam distillation unit.

Well...yes. But you can capture steam relatively easily. All you need is a lid, you'll lose most water but it's...better? You don't need to make it complex unless you want to capture as much water as possible.
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 3:33:49 PM
#34
OhhhJa posted...
Man, this topic got really pretentious and out of hand really fast. Bottom line is if you live in pretty much any other city in the 49 other states, you're probably good to drink the water


What? dark and I might be arguing, but I think we agree steaming water is a better policy.
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 3:14:31 PM
#32
darkknight109 posted...
No, you don't. That's called steam distillation and it's what I explained above. That's different from what people refer to when their water systems are under a boil water advisory.

Yeah.

darkknight109 posted...
Water that has merely been boiled works just fine if the contaminant is biological in nature. The number of harmful germs and bacteria that can survive boiling temperatures are exceedingly small and none of the ones that can are particularly common.

Are you saying you would ever drink boiled water without steam distillation? Depending on the circumstance you might be fine, but why risk it?
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 2:40:10 PM
#27
darkknight109 posted...
.....you don't seriously think that you can fix lead contamination by boiling water, do you?

Unless you are saying you can boil lead, then yes. Which...I guess you can but it would have to be intentional.

No one who knows what they are doing will drink boiled water. You capture the steam as is condenses and drink that. Boiling water will only work if you take the steamed water. You don't drink the water that was full of contaminants.
TopicA facebook friend thinks sharia law is taking over canada because halal-food
IronicFool
10/22/18 2:31:30 PM
#12
If you're trying to do it subtly, that would be the first step.

Not saying your friend is right, but jesus OP, you don't even consider it's right so you might as well be Muslim now.
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 2:26:53 PM
#25
_AdjI_ posted...
Lokarin posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
no because i live in a first world place where the water is fine

Flint, MI says "Hi"


Ya, how do they not have water yet? If that happened in Canada it woulda been fixed within 6 months


Tell that to the reserves that haven't had potable water for over 20 years.

Nope. Someone else can do it.
TopicBOIL YOUR WATER, ok?
IronicFool
10/22/18 2:18:53 PM
#21
darkknight109 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
no because i live in a first world place where the water is fine

Flint, MI says "Hi"

And how, exactly, do you figure that boiling water will fix lead contamination?

Are...what? You can't be serious.
TopicSo, I have a brand new kitty...
IronicFool
10/22/18 2:10:38 PM
#44
wwinterj25 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
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Cute af man!

OMG! I want one.

Also, OP are you black? Because I've been wrong about poster race before...and this might be another case.
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