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TopicPuerto Rican couple dragged out of their car and murdered
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 8:37:20 PM
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Topic"White Americans should be deeply shamed of their skin color"
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 7:31:40 PM
#85
Zeus posted...
The fact that Nicole Ellis, WaPo, and the KKKpretty clearly demonstrates horseshoe theory because all these nuts wound up in the same place
It is like they are saying "it's not that racism is wrong; it's that the wrong people were racist"

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Topic"White Americans should be deeply shamed of their skin color"
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 5:33:10 PM
#69
Bad_Mojo posted...
I believe CRT is a good thing to teach, but the people teaching it don't seem to understand it. It's not about white people, it's about a race having a natural head-start in their starting location.
I'd think they argue otherwise, for instance Ibram X Kendi believes that if ratios in organizations of whites and blacks aren't reflected in reality, then racism is the answer (I'd think the "theory" part would be to research if it is). His ideas are treated as CRT gospel and revelation

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TopicChris Brown hitting women again
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 4:10:32 PM
#38
catboy posted...
"It's not funny but I find this instance of it funny!"
I am laughing at what they wrote and we know they did it for those reasons.

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Topic"White Americans should be deeply shamed of their skin color"
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 4:07:25 PM
#65
Bad_Mojo posted...
Exactly

CRT = People need to be aware that being a certain race lets you have an easier life in certain areas. Just by existing you get an upper hand.

Opinion in OP - If you're born a certain race you're a pile of shit and should feel ashamed. I think this is the same reason why Women get so oppressed for so long - got to feel shame for eating that apple.

Ardbert posted...
Yea, there is a huge difference between CRT and what this article is pushing. There's a difference between acknowledging history and the biases in our systems and telling people "you should be ashamed of your existence because of your skin color." That's like, literal racism. You've hit the other end of the horseshoe.
The WaPo believes they are promoting CRT here. It's sectarianism that plagues religions like Christianity and Islam. It's one reason why people consider CRT and other "wokeisms" to be a quasi-religion

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TopicChris Brown hitting women again
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 3:51:04 PM
#29
Domestic violence is not funny but:

and the alleged victim told cops he smacked the back of her head so hard her weave came off!!!


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TopicTransgender Weightlifter To Compete In Olympics on New Zealand Women's Team
Dathrowed1
06/22/21 11:22:53 AM
#95
pinky0926 posted...
Uh I don't really want to weigh in on the politics of this and I said I wouldn't, but something that tickles me is the idea that olympic weightlifting had such a clean record before this. Pretty sure the only reason Clarence Kennedy doesn't compete is because the entire eastern bloc is still using PEDs up the wazoo while in the west we're testing for everything.
As an aside Clarence Kennedy admits to being on the sauce and believes the IOC should drop its anti-doping crusade

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TopicNYT article on CRT in 1997
Dathrowed1
06/21/21 6:09:29 PM
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g980 posted...
Yikes i hope this is a fringe take or somehow misrepresented
It does seem some believe there needs to be a ransom paid or something

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TopicNYT article on CRT in 1997
Dathrowed1
06/21/21 10:43:02 AM
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Black men, for example, may tell stories about police brutality that are at odds with the official version of how common such behavior is. By putting forward an anecdotal version of reality, Professor Crenshaw said, the men assert the primacy of personal experience and no matter what society tells them, they trust their own personal experiences.

Some critical race scholars also construct elaborate fables to illustrate their points. Their books typically eschew evidence to make a point, relying instead on fictionalized tales or dialogue.

But for Professor Sherry, storytelling doesnt bear the slightest pressure once you start to examine it. Such storytelling, she said, starts with conclusions, and when you start with conclusions, its all too easy to make arguments that wont withstand any scrutiny.
Her co-author and colleague at the University of Minnesota, Daniel A. Farber, who, like Professor Sherry, is white, said another problem with storytelling, especially personal narratives like the one by Professor Banks, is that when someone challenges a story, youre not just criticizing someones scholarship, but youre attacking their life, something that goes to the heart of their identity. Dr. Farber added, That can make a dialogue very difficult.
In defense of storytelling, Prof. Alex M. Johnson Jr. of the University of Virginia has written that minority scholars have a distinct voice of color, which rejects narrow evidentiary concepts of relevance and credibility.

Some theorists go so far as to say that what really happened in a particular incident may be no more important than what people feel or say happened. For example, some argue that even though Tawana Brawley, then a teen-ager, made up her account that a gang of white men, one with a badge, raped and defiled her in New York in 1987, her story is still valid because it offers truths about the oppression of black women.

In her book The Alchemy of Race and Rights (Harvard, 1991), Prof. Patricia Williams of the Columbia University Law School appeared to suggest that it made little difference whether Ms. Brawley had made up her account. The teen-ager, Professor Williams wrote, was the victim of an unspeakable crime no matter who did it to her and even if she did it to herself.

Her condition was clearly the expression of some crime against her, some tremendous violence, some great violation that challenges comprehension, Professor Williams said.
Tawanas terrible story has every black womans worst fears and experiences wrapped into it.

Critics of Professor Williamss comments, however, note that a New York State grand jury investigated Ms. Brawleys story and concluded that she had made it up. Professor Williams, Professor Sherry wrote, seems unable to distinguish between Brawleys fantasized rape and another womans real one.

In a recent interview, Professor Williams said she had been misinterpreted. She meant, she said, that the debate about whether Ms. Brawley was telling the truth obscured that she was a troubled minor.

Her needs were not dealt with, as they should have been with any child, Professor Williams said. Further, Ms. Brawley was transformed into a stereotype of black women as hard women who can never really suffer any violation, she added.

Professor Cook, of Georgetown, the author of a book about race and religion called The Least of These (Routledge, 1997), put it a different way. Even if Ms. Brawley made up her story, he said, it was meaningful because it accurately represented black womens collective fear of racial and sexual mistreatment, a fear reinforced by centuries of domination and subjugation.

Then what about the stories told by Susan Smith in South Carolina and Charles Stuart in Boston, whites who falsely blamed black men for horrific crimes they had committed themselves? Dont they tell the story, say, of white fear of black crime?

Professor Cook said that the Stuart and Smith events were far less valid than Ms. Brawleys because hers represents a story from an oppressed class.

Tawanas terrible story has every black womans worst fears and experiences wrapped into it.

Critics of Professor Williamss comments, however, note that a New York State grand jury investigated Ms. Brawleys story and concluded that she had made it up. Professor Williams, Professor Sherry wrote, seems unable to distinguish between Brawleys fantasized rape and another womans real one.

In a recent interview, Professor Williams said she had been misinterpreted. She meant, she said, that the debate about whether Ms. Brawley was telling the truth obscured that she was a troubled minor.

Her needs were not dealt with, as they should have been with any child, Professor Williams said. Further, Ms. Brawley was transformed into a stereotype of black women as hard women who can never really suffer any violation, she added.

Professor Cook, of Georgetown, the author of a book about race and religion called The Least of These (Routledge, 1997), put it a different way. Even if Ms. Brawley made up her story, he said, it was meaningful because it accurately represented black womens collective fear of racial and sexual mistreatment, a fear reinforced by centuries of domination and subjugation.

Then what about the stories told by Susan Smith in South Carolina and Charles Stuart in Boston, whites who falsely blamed black men for horrific crimes they had committed themselves? Dont they tell the story, say, of white fear of black crime?

Professor Cook said that the Stuart and Smith events were far less valid than Ms. Brawleys because hers represents a story from an oppressed class.

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TopicNYT article on CRT in 1997
Dathrowed1
06/21/21 10:34:47 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/05/us/for-black-scholars-wedded-to-prism-of-race-new-and-separate-goals

They interviewed adherents and critics alike. But it is obvious whose side they are on:


Taunya Lovell Banks, a law professor at the University of Maryland, was traveling by train to Baltimore a few years ago when a man exposed himself to her and then ran into the next car.

Professor Banks and the conductor discussed what to do, including whether to have the man arrested. The conductor suggested just letting him off at the next stop. And that set Professor Banks to thinking about the circumstances.

She and the man were black; the conductor was white. Would the conductor have treated the matter differently had she been white? What if the conductor had been black? And was the man mentally disturbed because, as a black man, society had pressed him too hard and provided too little help?

An ordinary observer might have regarded what occurred on the train as a relatively simple incident. But Professor Banks is an adherent of a growing academic movement among minority scholars called critical race theory, which holds that peoples perspectives on events are overwhelmingly determined by their racial background. For critical race theorists, such incidents are rarely straightforward or what they might seem to others.

Critical race theorists, who are on the faculty at almost every major law school and are producing an ever-growing body of scholarly work, have drawn from an idea made popular by postmodernist scholars of all races, that there is no objective reality.

Originating in the nations law schools, critical race theory has spread far beyond those institutions to become a significant new front in the nations increasingly fractious culture wars. Supporters and opponents agree that it has a clear and obvious bearing on familiar issues like the legitimacy of ebonics and Afrocentric curriculums, the guilt or innocence of O. J. Simpson and the fairness of affirmative action helping to explain how whites and blacks can find themselves quivering with exasperation at each others view on those issues.

Perhaps most significantly, critical race theory is providing an intellectual foundation for newly flourishing forms of black separateness.

While they do not disapprove of integration that occurs naturally, critical race theorists reject the classic liberal view of integration as the ultimate goal. They deride the concept of a colorblind society.

Critical race theory counters colorblindness by saying that race is not simply skin color, and it tries to reveal the ways that race is a category that has been structured out of law and culture and history, said Prof. Kimberle Crenshaw of the University of California at Los Angeles Law School, an editor of the leading anthology on the subject.

Most people think law is being neutral if it doesnt say anything explicit about race, she said. But it is not usually neutral. It is simply facilitating whatever power relationships were in existence when the law was put in place.
One important battleground in critical race theory is the criminal justice system: Why, the theorists ask, are a disproportionate number of the men in Americas jails black? Many critical race theorists say it is because the system is infected with racism at every level, from prosecutors offices to judges chambers.

Some of the nontraditional proposals made by minority law professors startle, and even anger, some of their white colleagues. Prof. Paul Butler of the George Washington University Law School has gone so far as to suggest that blacks, usually a majority on urban juries, should exercise their power to acquit black defendants in nonviolent drug crimes.

Professor Butler, a former Federal prosecutor, has also suggested that black jurors should assess whether black Americans would be helped or harmed by acquitting black defendants accused of stealing the property of whites. He has portrayed his suggestions as a kind of black self-help, a direct way of adjusting the score after decades of racial oppression.

Critics of critical race theory, like Prof. Suzanna Sherry of the University of Minnesota law school, contend that it defies common sense and abandons intellectual principles in an effort to promote the political standing of blacks in society.

Professor Sherry, a co-author of Beyond All Reason (Oxford University Press), a forthcoming book that challenges critical race theory, suggested in an interview that the movement was the result of increasing frustration among black intellectuals over the failure to eradicate racism.

The problem with denying any objective reality, she said, is that there is no way of mediating among the competing perceptions of reality except power. And what they ultimately want is more power for their perceptions.

Many critical race theorists say an important tool for members of minorities in overcoming their disadvantages is to tell stories, some of them from individual experience and some of them parables. Storytelling, Professor Crenshaw said, aims at challenging versions of reality put forward by the dominant white culture.

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TopicIn The Heights under fire for 'Colorism' among Latinx/Blacks
Dathrowed1
06/16/21 10:28:09 PM
#34
Derwood posted...
so it's curious that he (Miranda) who wrote the movie, produced it and is IN it never once noticed the lack of afro-Latino actors during the entire process
Yeah that is why I wasn't getting what that poster was saying. I didn't read in the apology where he said that having white Latinos wasn't apart of his vision. So I asked where he said that

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TopicIn The Heights under fire for 'Colorism' among Latinx/Blacks
Dathrowed1
06/16/21 9:46:59 PM
#28
Derwood posted...
Miranda and Chu have both apologized for the lack of afro-latino actors
It seems he is saying Miranda always intended for there to be afro-Latino actors

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TopicIn The Heights under fire for 'Colorism' among Latinx/Blacks
Dathrowed1
06/16/21 9:09:06 PM
#20
RadiantJoyrock posted...
Except the creator admits it's light skinned skew didn't fit his vision. It's not inclusive.
Where do you see him saying that?

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TopicPictures of the First BLACK ARIEL of the LITTLE MERMAID is out!! Is She Hot??
Dathrowed1
06/16/21 8:03:55 PM
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Who is going to be the next redhead they replace?

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TopicIn The Heights under fire for 'Colorism' among Latinx/Blacks
Dathrowed1
06/16/21 5:19:56 PM
#16
I agree with TWC's take on this:

You simply cant apologize for realizing your own artistic creation, ever. Its your art! Crowdsourcing feedback is not just unfair when youre forced to grovel over the whims of representation, its also anathema to what makes a work of art powerfulan auteurs unique vision.

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TopicIs science doomed to prove God? Scientists think universe is conscious
Dathrowed1
06/12/21 10:52:44 PM
#23
WingsOfGood posted...
Some religions believe all objects have a soul, I think Tao? Idk tbh.
The ancient Assyrians believed in animism

But this looks more like pantheism

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TopicMortal Kombat is the only fighting game where button timing feels so awkward
Dathrowed1
06/11/21 12:40:19 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
No they weren't even good then lol.

They just filmed video of actors and put them in the game.

It's taken them 25 years to learn that when you jump, you bend your legs.
I tried to give them some credit, but yeah the animations today are pretty much those from then

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TopicMortal Kombat is the only fighting game where button timing feels so awkward
Dathrowed1
06/11/21 12:18:23 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
I don't know how you can have cinematic graphics yet the animation, direction etc is so badly done.
It is way too traditional. The animations they used were good in 1993, but they need to get away from them

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TopicAMA About Roman History
Dathrowed1
06/09/21 12:37:29 AM
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Why did the Romans say "lol science" and stall scientific progress that the Greeks created post Alexander?

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TopicDid you get sexually harassed by a woman?
Dathrowed1
06/08/21 7:04:18 PM
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Yes

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TopicHow many Jewish people do you personally know?
Dathrowed1
06/08/21 1:09:09 PM
#20
Oh and when I said Jewish I normally mean more from an ethnic stance and with religion secondary

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TopicHow many Jewish people do you personally know?
Dathrowed1
06/08/21 8:21:18 AM
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I know a few from school and IRL. Most are Russians which I have heard may present its own conundrums

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TopicYet another major study which dictates spanking children is wrong
Dathrowed1
06/07/21 6:16:10 PM
#136
Popcorn thread

Can someone make a circumcision thread next?

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TopicCE Fitness Topic!
Dathrowed1
06/03/21 8:38:03 PM
#80
Got a bench press PR with 110kgs. Also started to experiment with sumo style but my calves cramped up

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TopicChristDems want Sweden to store biometric data of all foreigners.
Dathrowed1
06/03/21 5:02:31 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
I really hate the idea and can lead to a scary future. But the gang violence and and criminality has gone too far, people shooting up themselves, family members, best friends, many innocent have died, lots of other problems. I dunno honestly.
Didn't Sweden start having these issues recently too?

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TopicNEET murders his Mom, pretends to be crazy to the police on a hidden camera
Dathrowed1
06/02/21 6:17:21 PM
#3
He already messed up once he asked for a lawyer

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TopicEven if you are an atheist, the bible has some great wisdom/advice.
Dathrowed1
05/31/21 10:18:20 PM
#48
Ill still say the good Samaritan parable is better than anything the anti-racists have given us.

It is simple and universal

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TopicAre you black or white?
Dathrowed1
05/30/21 10:39:14 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
Wow. Usually mixed people are discriminated against because of their black heritage. Im surprised his Chinese half was the trigger in that instance.
Well it was black kids who were his discriminators.

They did segregate the churches there he told me: Levantines got to sit in the front

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TopicAre you black or white?
Dathrowed1
05/30/21 7:01:01 PM
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_Sazando_ posted...
what kind of dumbass thread is this, what if you're asian and black for example? what do i put? fuck off with these poll options
I guess it depends. My grandfather was half Caribbean black and half Chinese but his family all identified as black socially. His brother actually told me that he (his brother) was called a slur because of his Chinese forefathers

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Topickotaku: " Sorry, Your Cis White Woman Protagonist Isn't Progressive"
Dathrowed1
05/30/21 12:32:44 PM
#143
I feel this is a hand wave. What of the creative black people with their own IPs? That is what I'd like to see in gaming

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TopicMan killed in shooting in March and his "friends" aren't talking
Dathrowed1
05/29/21 11:42:06 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
No it's not really. It's just basic 5th amendment common sense.
And this too

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TopicMan killed in shooting in March and his "friends" aren't talking
Dathrowed1
05/29/21 11:41:47 PM
#6
Intro2Logic posted...
Cops have so eroded public trust that no one wants to talk to them

darkprince45 posted...
Yeah. Thats what it is
But the mom is literally telling the friends to talk to the police

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TopicFreddy Krueger is the scariest horror villain
Dathrowed1
05/29/21 10:07:04 PM
#15
UnholyMudcrab posted...
The idea of Freddy is pretty scary, but they made the character himself into a cornball
This. They turned Freddie into a comedy character

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TopicTulsa Massacre Centenary canceled over survivor payments
Dathrowed1
05/29/21 7:49:23 PM
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https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/29/tulsa-race-massacre-centenary-major-event-canceled

Instead of gifts of $100k (to each survivor) and $2 million in reparations, the survivors wanted $1 million in gifts to each and $50 million in reparation funds.

Seems the organizers were going to use money elsewhere and the survivors wanted all of it

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TopicGal Gadot is hosting a National Geographic show on displaced indigenous people.
Dathrowed1
05/28/21 10:41:40 AM
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RenescoStCewl posted...
It sounds like the land belongs to the canaanites then.
Too bad Phoenicians don't exist anymore

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TopicGal Gadot is hosting a National Geographic show on displaced indigenous people.
Dathrowed1
05/27/21 6:42:35 PM
#37
FortuneCookie posted...
Israel was Semite land before it was Arab land.

It's hard to call the Palestinians displaced indigenous peoples.
Arabs are Semites

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TopicI saw someone unironically purchasing black licorice.
Dathrowed1
05/26/21 10:29:24 PM
#12
If it ain't strawberry Twizzlers then get it out of here

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TopicArtist Sza requested a black photographer for a photo shoot and was told no
Dathrowed1
05/26/21 1:17:24 AM
#31
What magazine was this?

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TopicSeth Rogen doesn't understand comedians who complain about cancel culture
Dathrowed1
05/25/21 11:18:29 PM
#35
MICHALECOLE posted...
kramer? Thats all I can think of..
I wouldn't even say him, Michael Richards' career became irrelevant once Seinfeld ended

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TopicBLM activist Sasha Johnson shot in the head.
Dathrowed1
05/25/21 6:12:31 PM
#23
tevilstwo posted...
oh my bad. still suspect though.
It is reported she was shot by a stray as apart of gang violence. UK authorities are looking for 4 black men linked to the attacks

https://news.sky.com/story/sasha-johnson-shooting-of-black-equal-rights-activist-by-group-of-men-not-targeted-attack-police-say-12316468

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