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TopicPokemon of the Year R1D39 ft. Jigglypuff, Lechonk, Crobat, Psyduck [PotY]
Bitto
04/19/24 11:49:39 AM
#13
ICE BURN
+3 Rabsca
+2 Octillery
+1 Lechonk
-1 Munna
-2 Tangela
-3 Cresselia

ATTRACT
+3 Arctovish
+2 Psyduck
+1 Pyukumuku
-1 Wugtrio
-2 Cherubi
-3 Zubat

I feel mandated for -3ing Cresselia for their role in Brawl's Spear Pillar stage.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Bitto
04/19/24 10:59:26 AM
#68
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Tbh I don't even know what Hellraiser is about.

Oh, so you're not reading any of the write-ups.

Man, Predator going out next is wild. Looks like about half the ratings were sub-15. I can only think of a few movies that I think would get a bunch of sub-15. Since I've been burnt on Possession too many times, I'll go with Videodrome.

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TopicFill in the Blank 259: Lady ___
Bitto
04/19/24 1:09:46 AM
#16
Macbeth

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: Turnabout Countdown (5-1)
Bitto
04/18/24 8:20:29 PM
#1
Rules:

  1. Rate each case on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. Anything above 10 gets rounded down to a 10, and anything below a 1 gets rounded up to a 1.
  2. Anything beyond one decimal point will be rounded accordingly: .04 and below will be rounded down, .05 and up will be rounded up.
  3. You may grade on any criteria you like.
  4. You can rate cases from previous topics if you miss a topic.


Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PiEuURt1qf19VoYzcFCU1EFa8uqs2teJiVcip7JmjDw/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Results:

Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5) - 9.8 (37 votes)
Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) - 9.7 (30 votes)
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4) - 9.2 (32 votes)
The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3) - 8.5 (16 votes)
Turnabout Beginnings (3-4) - 8.4 (26 votes)
Rise from the Ashes (1-5) - 8.2 (28 votes)
The Stolen Turnabout (3-2) - 8.2 (24 votes)
Turnabout Samurai (1-3) - 7.4 (29 votes)
Turnabout Memories (3-1) - 7.4 (30 votes)
Turnabout Target (E2-1) - 7.1 (17 votes)
The Grand Turnabout (E2-5) - 7.1 (15 votes)
Turnabout Trump (4-1) - 6.9 (25 votes)
Recipe for Turnabout (3-3) - 6.6 (27 votes)
Reunion, and Turnabout (2-2) - 6.5 (25 votes)
Turnabout Ablaze (E1-5) - 6.0 (19 votes)
Turnabout Sisters (1-2) - 5.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Reminiscence (E1-4) - 5.6 (22 votes)
The Imprisoned Turnabout (E2-2) - 5.3 (16 votes)
The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4) - 5.2 (16 votes)
Turnabout Visitor (E1-1) - 5.0 (20 votes)
The First Turnabout (1-1) - 4.9 (25 votes)
The Kidnapped Turnabout (E1-3) - 4.6 (22 votes)
Turnabout Airlines (E1-2) - 4.2 (22 votes)
Turnabout Corner (4-2) - 4.0 (25 votes)
Turnabout Big Top (2-3) - 3.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Succession (4-4) - 3.5 (24 votes)
The Lost Turnabout (2-1) - 3.3 (27 votes)
Turnabout Serenade (4-3) - 2.7 (24 votes)

E2-5 gets a wide range of scores. Some really liked the mastermind, some didn't, and some did but also felt the plan didn't really make that much sense. Mostly everyone agreed that the case has a lot of bloat. Interestingly, because of just how much it does, a few felt that it really lacked identity and was hard to remember anything about it.

Summary:

When a bomb goes off in the courthouse, Apollo is injured and it's up to the firm's newest lawyer, Athena Cykes, to step up and handle the case.

Main Characters: Athena Cykes, Apollo Justice, Phoenix Wright, Gaspen Payne, The Judge
Other Characters: Juniper Woods, Candice Arme, Ted Tonate

My rating: 2/10. I feel this case takes all the wrong lessons from starting in media res. When you have the full context of this case, this case seems really...strange. Why is Athena freaking out against Gaspen Payne of all people after doing a much more anxious case? Why is Juniper nothing like her 5-3 appearance? Is Apollo that much of a factor? And it's just kind of weird this all happens in the middle of 5-4 and 5-5. Outside of that, it's...a tutorial case. I would have liked for Athena to take this on, but I get why they brought Phoenix for it. Payne is fine, Tonate is fine, everything is just fine. The bluff at the end is nice, but...honestly, I never really "got" this case, like the logic behind figuring out it was a fake bomb.

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Joker vs. Penitent / Armstrong vs. Lightning
Bitto
04/18/24 7:33:47 PM
#5
Joker
Armstrong

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TopicWhat four hub worlds are on the Video Game Hub Worlds Mount Rushmore?
Bitto
04/18/24 7:32:12 PM
#20
Peachs Castle (Super Mario 64)
The Normandy (Mass Effect)
Myst (Myst)
Dalaren (World of Warcraft)

Haven't played Myst or WoW, but both seem right.

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TopicPokemon of the Year Hub Topic 2: Weak division. [PotY]
Bitto
04/18/24 6:32:52 PM
#228
I just dont like the fur coming out of its ears.

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/18/24 6:23:12 PM
#51
Shoutouts to Lang for having a few lines in a single case. At least his song gets a nice remix.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Bitto
04/18/24 5:44:11 PM
#42
That sounds like an incredible podcast. I'll listen and would be open to any other similar podcasts of genres in entertainment.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Bitto
04/18/24 5:22:15 PM
#33
Please...let it be Possession.

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TopicRanking 69 NPC's from Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (plus minigames) (spoilers)
Bitto
04/18/24 4:50:26 PM
#236
Mai better than Chadley all the time.

Changing it so their voice comes out of the speakers instead of the controller helps a lot. It's so loud from the controller.

Nanaki should at least be higher than Zack. I probably would put him over Yuffie and maybe Tifa too.

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TopicPokemon of the Year R1D38 ft. Mew, Carvanha, Braixen, Salamence [PotY]
Bitto
04/18/24 1:50:02 PM
#21
WONDER ROOM
+3 Blacephalon
+2 Thwackey
+1 Smeargle
-1 Carvanha
-2 Komala
-3 Reshiram

G-MAX RAPID FLOW
+3 Regigigas
+2 Parasect
+1 Manectric
-1 Sunflora
-2 Salamence
-3 Braixen

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TopicBoard 8's Top 20 NES Games: Voting Topic
Bitto
04/18/24 1:46:20 PM
#8
+5 Mega Man 2
+4 Mega Man 3
+4 Super Mario Bros. 3
+3 Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse
+3 Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
+3 The Legend of Zelda
+2 Contra
+2 Duck Tales
+2 Mega Man 5
+2 Tetris
+1 Battletoads
+1 Bubble Bobble
+1 Castlevania
+1 Final Fantasy
+1 Ghosts 'n Goblins
+1 Mega Man 4
+1 Ninja Gaiden
+1 Super C
+1 Super Mario Bros.
+1 Super Mario Bros. 2

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TopicFill in the Blank 258: San ___
Bitto
04/18/24 9:50:39 AM
#66
Nominate _____ Break

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/18/24 9:19:41 AM
#48
From what I've seen these past few days... You have absolutely no redeeming qualities. Perhaps you should try starting over again... as a human being.

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TopicAnimal Popularity Tier List
Bitto
04/18/24 1:42:22 AM
#16
Sharks should definitely be in the bottom of Tier 4, not Tier 5! Not sure what happened there.

I feel monkeys and spiders are both really divisive. I know a ton of animal lovers that just hate monkeys. Arachnophobia is huge, but a lot of people find spiders fascinating. I think they're still on the bottom tier, but they're above all the unranked stuff like mosquitos and bedbugs. Generalized Bug, I think of as like...ants, beetles, etc.

Raccoons are tough. I agree that they're probably higher in fiction, but they also kind of are an unliked animal, even in fiction.

I consider pandas/bears and ducks/geese/penguins to be the same. Maybe shift a bit in the tier, but definitely the same tier.

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TopicAnimal Popularity Tier List
Bitto
04/18/24 12:32:08 AM
#1
I've been watching the Nintendo Indie trailer today and noticed a few games starring frogs. That combined with the Bubbulfrogs in TOTK and the amount of work put into the Toad status in the FF7 remakes make me think that frogs have jumped a tier in popularity, which is something I put a fair amount of thought into. I figured I would post it and see what you all think.

Note that this isn't my personal opinions of animals, but rather how generally popular animals are among the general person. If I posted a funny meme of this animal or if I had to anthropomorphize an animal for something I'm creating, which ones are more likely to get positive reception? List is based on which animals have emoji. Some animals, even with emoji, I just left off the list because I don't think they're notable enough.

Tier 1:

Dogs
Cats

Tier 2:

Foxes
Birds of Prey
Wolves
Big Cats
Bears
Generalized Birds
Rabbits

Tier 3:

Aquatic Birds
Deer
Butterflies
Frogs
Horses
Squirrels
Mice

Tier 4:

Turtles
Sea Lions
Otters
Crabs
Octopi
Snakes
Generalized Small Mammals
Birds of Paradise
Crocodiles

Tier 5:

Generalized Fish
Lizards
Dolphins
Elephants
Badgers
Sharks

Tier 6:

Goats
Pigs
Cows
Chickens
Sheep
Whales
Generalized Savanna Animals
Generalized Ocean Creatures

Tier 7:

Raccoon
Monkeys
Bees
Spiders
Generalized Bugs
Bats

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Bitto
04/17/24 11:42:29 PM
#3
Next film should be Videodrome.

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TopicFill in the Blank 258: San ___
Bitto
04/17/24 11:34:29 PM
#4
Jose

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 10:38:29 PM
#39
The official translation by a significant amount.

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 10:14:20 PM
#27
I'm so glad you didn't get spoiled on this even though you literally found Simon/Knightley ship art

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 10:03:12 PM
#22
as long as the kid gets a better name than John Marsh

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 9:46:46 PM
#19
kevwaffles posted...
Before I can rate this, can anyone remind me why Simon does any of the shit he's responsible for besides getting Knightley killed? Was E2-3 just him being mad at his dad? Past that I have no idea.

A lot of it has to do with Simon being the witness to the assassination of Huang and the evil Yatagarasu knowing about this and trying to silence him.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Bitto
04/17/24 9:22:01 PM
#480
Cenobites are definitely the big pull of Hellraiser, which is wild that they show up for like 10 minutes. I was really hoping for them to be more involved in the ending too. Them being a final boss after Frank's departure is underwhelming.

1. ???
2. ???
3. ???
4. Christine
5. The Lost Boys
6. ???
7. ???
8. Basket Case
9. Re-Animator
10. Gremlins
11. ???
12. ???
13. Fright Night
14. The Changeling
15. An American Werewolf in London
16. ???
17. ???
18. Hellraiser
19. The Dead Zone
20. ???
21. Child's Play
22. Phenomena
23. Creepshow
24. Tetsuo: The Iron Man
25. Poltergeist
26. Prince of Darkness
27. Friday the 13th
28. Killer Klowns from Outer Space
29. Sleepaway Camp
30. Pet Sematary

Half of my top 10 is in. Pretty good.

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TopicWhat's the most technically impressive Xbox game? (Day 13) + PS2 final
Bitto
04/17/24 9:04:58 PM
#9
Steel Battalion

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 8:29:07 PM
#3
I keep making that mistake. I also forgot to update E2-3's score with a few new ratings.

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 8:25:57 PM
#1
Rules:

  1. Rate each case on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. Anything above 10 gets rounded down to a 10, and anything below a 1 gets rounded up to a 1.
  2. Anything beyond one decimal point will be rounded accordingly: .04 and below will be rounded down, .05 and up will be rounded up.
  3. You may grade on any criteria you like.
  4. You can rate cases from previous topics if you miss a topic.


Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PiEuURt1qf19VoYzcFCU1EFa8uqs2teJiVcip7JmjDw/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Results:

Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5) - 9.8 (37 votes)
Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) - 9.7 (30 votes)
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4) - 9.2 (32 votes)
The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3) - 8.5 (16 votes)
Turnabout Beginnings (3-4) - 8.4 (26 votes)
Rise from the Ashes (1-5) - 8.2 (28 votes)
The Stolen Turnabout (3-2) - 8.2 (24 votes)
Turnabout Samurai (1-3) - 7.4 (29 votes)
Turnabout Memories (3-1) - 7.4 (30 votes)
Turnabout Target (E2-1) - 7.1 (17 votes)
Turnabout Trump (4-1) - 6.9 (25 votes)
Recipe for Turnabout (3-3) - 6.6 (27 votes)
Reunion, and Turnabout (2-2) - 6.5 (25 votes)
Turnabout Ablaze (E1-5) - 6.0 (19 votes)
Turnabout Sisters (1-2) - 5.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Reminiscence (E1-4) - 5.6 (22 votes)
The Imprisoned Turnabout (E2-2) - 5.3 (16 votes)
The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4) - 5.3 (14 votes)
Turnabout Visitor (E1-1) - 5.0 (20 votes)
The First Turnabout (1-1) - 4.9 (25 votes)
The Kidnapped Turnabout (E1-3) - 4.6 (22 votes)
Turnabout Airlines (E1-2) - 4.2 (22 votes)
Turnabout Corner (4-2) - 4.0 (25 votes)
Turnabout Big Top (2-3) - 3.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Succession (4-4) - 3.5 (24 votes)
The Lost Turnabout (2-1) - 3.3 (27 votes)
Turnabout Serenade (4-3) - 2.7 (24 votes)

E2-4 ties with E2-2. Mostly everyone liked the Courtney face turn. However, the amnesia plot had a lot of mixed opinions. Some thought it led to really strong Edgeworth/Kay dynamics, culminating in Edgeworth choosing his relationships over his badge. Others felt it wasn't used very well and is a weak plot line.

While I've been using the Prosecutor's Path names and translation, I went through AAI2 through the dowolf translation, which I really liked. The name in that translation, Turnabout Oblivion, feels a lot more apt than The Forgotten Turnabout. And Blaise being named Oswald leads to some nice lines with his nickname being Ozzie.

Summary:

No more than a few hours after their last close call, Edgeworth and Kay stumble onto a new, high profile murder investigation. And a kidnapping. And another kidnapping? And another murder? Edgeworth goes all out to solve this final case, relearning what being a prosecutor really means to him all over again.

Main Characters: Miles Edgeworth, Dick Gumshoe, Kay Faraday, Raymond Shields, Justine Courtney, Sebastian Debeste, Franziska von Karma, Shi-Long Lang
Other Characters: Di-Jun Huang, Penny Nichols, Will Powers, John Marsh, Patricia Roland, Blaise Debeste, Nicole Swift, Lotta Hart, Regina Berry, Simon Keyes, Sirhan Dogen, Shelley de Killer, Jack Cameron, The Body Double, Horace Knightley, Pierre Hoquet, Dane Gustavia, The Mastermind

My rating: 9/10. The Grand Turnabout, indeed. This is a highly ambitious case and it meets those ambitions...at the beginning and the end of the case. The middle, though, can really drag. There's a BUNCH crammed in this case, mostly by design. I'll tackle the big threads.

Debeste's face turn and the trials: Great and terrible. Everything to do with Sebastian Debeste is really fun and he earns his face turn here. I...think it might have been better to put this in E2-4 simply because this case is too bloated, but it also helps to see Sebastian by Blaise's side in E2-4 and decisively turn on him here. The trials, on the other hand, are simply terrible. As Anagram mentioned last topic, Shields is just blatantly not following his duties and it just feels...really wrong. The pacing is brutal too. I do appreciate that Blaise continues to be deeply incompetent, though.

The murder and the evil Yatagarasu: Huang is a really interesting victim, made even more interesting when you learn that it's the body double. Patricia, Blaise, and the Body Double is a pretty neat group of victims, but...it's pretty weird that they're all complete jobbers. Patricia's sympathy in E2-2 pretty much goes out the door when you realize she's a monster. I really like the Moozilla stomp murder scene and how it actually turned out to be a Goomba stomp kill. I always appreciate a theatrical murder scene.

The mastermind: I think this will really color how much you love this case. Keyes is probably my favorite game-long villain and the game does a great job of making him a monster, but also showing how much of this was outside the bound of his control. Keyes himself obviously has a ton of really fun animations and figuring out who exactly the mastermind is is really fun, especially since this case brings literally the entire cast out. I don't really like Dogen being Keyes' parental substitute. I think that's fine...but why does it need to be an assassin? de Killer and Dogen walking out of a tent surrounded by law enforcement is also pretty bad, a clear visual indication of how untouchable assassins are in Ace Attorney.

The emotional highlights: Generally, the Ace Attorney games have throughlines in them overarching the game. AAI2 has both a throughline regarding the mastermind, but also a throughline regarding fatherhood. I really enjoyed this part of AAI2 and it really culminates in this case in regards to Keyes. I just want to mention how much I love that aspect of AAI2. Oh, and Gumshoe getting a raise in his final appearance so far in the series feels...appropriate.

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TopicPokemon of the Year Hub Topic 2: Weak division. [PotY]
Bitto
04/17/24 6:27:46 PM
#212
NBIceman posted...
The names are my least favorite part, honestly. There may be no greater indicator of the loss of creativity in Pokemon than the fact that we've started naming stuff "Adjective Noun."

It's a Pokemon in the past. "Adjective Noun" makes perfect sense for naming.

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TopicPokemon of the Year R1D37 ft. Alakazam, Deoxys, Latias, Poliwhirl [PotY]
Bitto
04/17/24 6:26:05 PM
#39
UF8 posted...
regardless it's wild that you'd actually shit on one of the most conceptually awesome ones, it's a mysterious hostile invader from space that is clearly ready to fuck shit up, it's also one of the most fun to use, and its theme goes hard, what's not to like?

(i'm eyeing the other minusers here too)

This is exactly why I don't like Deoxys.

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TopicPokemon of the Year R1D37 ft. Alakazam, Deoxys, Latias, Poliwhirl [PotY]
Bitto
04/17/24 6:24:05 PM
#38
SUBSTITUTE
+3 Alakazam
+2 Dusclops
+1 Golett
-1 Pidgeotto
-2 Floette
-3 Deoxys

Alakazam's Pokemon Stadium damage animation is incredible. The slow fall, followed by casually levitating himself back to his feet. It truly lives in my head rent-free.

G-MAX CANNONADE
+3 Cinccino
+2 Togepi
+1 Torterra
-1 Thundurus
-2 Zarude
-3 Panpour

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Bitto
04/17/24 6:07:29 PM
#471
I'll go for Hellraiser.

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TopicRanking 69 NPC's from Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (plus minigames) (spoilers)
Bitto
04/17/24 5:55:08 PM
#222
I feel like the original idea for this was going to be more "transportative," like you'd be in a VR version of Junon, and they'd give your party black suits to wear (how cool would "Turk" inspired alt costumes be?). And you'd skulk around a VR version of Junon to take out a terrorist leader. But instead they're just battles in the regular Chadley VR space.

This is exactly what I expected too. Easily the most disappointing quest in the game.

Steiner posted...
really weird how they give you a spiel about protecting the president in one of the battles when there's no such president appearance!

....You know, that's a really good point.

The real rewards here are some decent lore and quest progression.

I agree, the lifespring and the summon world intel are fun just for the lore. I remember getting to an Odin summoning area without hearing Chadley speak about the lore and I was frantically looking around for a summon crystal to break.

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TopicRanking 69 NPC's from Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (plus minigames) (spoilers)
Bitto
04/17/24 2:00:49 PM
#213
UPA sidequest is great until you do the battle square. Holy shit.

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TopicPokemon of the Year Hub Topic 2: Weak division. [PotY]
Bitto
04/17/24 1:18:26 PM
#200
For UBs, I typically have a pretty high opinion of them. Not Stakataka, though. That one seems uninspired.

For Paradox, the future ones are mostly bad but the past ones are mostly good. At the very least, the names are great. Scream Tail.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Bitto
04/17/24 11:48:11 AM
#449
Ill bet on Possession.

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TopicFill in the Blank 257: ___ Music
Bitto
04/16/24 11:52:36 PM
#2
Rock

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
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04/16/24 9:40:45 PM
#14
Flowey

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4)
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04/16/24 8:20:28 PM
#1
Rules:

  1. Rate each case on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. Anything above 10 gets rounded down to a 10, and anything below a 1 gets rounded up to a 1.
  2. Anything beyond one decimal point will be rounded accordingly: .04 and below will be rounded down, .05 and up will be rounded up.
  3. You may grade on any criteria you like.
  4. You can rate cases from previous topics if you miss a topic.


Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PiEuURt1qf19VoYzcFCU1EFa8uqs2teJiVcip7JmjDw/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Results:

Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5) - 9.8 (37 votes)
Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) - 9.7 (30 votes)
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4) - 9.2 (32 votes)
The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3) - 8.7 (14 votes)
Turnabout Beginnings (3-4) - 8.4 (26 votes)
Rise from the Ashes (1-5) - 8.2 (28 votes)
The Stolen Turnabout (3-2) - 8.2 (24 votes)
Turnabout Samurai (1-3) - 7.4 (29 votes)
Turnabout Memories (3-1) - 7.4 (30 votes)
Turnabout Target (E2-1) - 7.1 (17 votes)
Turnabout Trump (4-1) - 6.9 (25 votes)
Recipe for Turnabout (3-3) - 6.6 (27 votes)
Reunion, and Turnabout (2-2) - 6.5 (25 votes)
Turnabout Ablaze (E1-5) - 6.0 (19 votes)
Turnabout Sisters (1-2) - 5.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Reminiscence (E1-4) - 5.6 (22 votes)
The Imprisoned Turnabout (E2-2) - 5.3 (16 votes)
Turnabout Visitor (E1-1) - 5.0 (20 votes)
The First Turnabout (1-1) - 4.9 (25 votes)
The Kidnapped Turnabout (E1-3) - 4.6 (22 votes)
Turnabout Airlines (E1-2) - 4.2 (22 votes)
Turnabout Corner (4-2) - 4.0 (25 votes)
Turnabout Big Top (2-3) - 3.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Succession (4-4) - 3.5 (24 votes)
The Lost Turnabout (2-1) - 3.3 (27 votes)
Turnabout Serenade (4-3) - 2.7 (24 votes)

E2-3 earns its place in the top 5. Many appreciated how it adds to the overall universe of Ace Attorney. The case taking place in the past and present was also praised by several. It, just like many other AAI2 cases, is thought of as too long.

Summary:

You can't have a teenaged side-kick for too long before they end up a murder suspect; Edgeworth learns this lesson the hard way, putting his entire career on the line to defend Kay not from the mysterious figure that attacked her, but the Prosecutorial Investigations Committee that is determined to have the both of them locked away.

Main Characters: Miles Edgeworth, Dick Gumshoe, Kay Faraday, Raymond Shields, Justine Courtney, Sebastian Debeste, Franziska von Karma
Other Characters: Karin Jenson, Jill Crane, Bonnie Young, Ema Skye, Lotta Hart, Blaise Debeste, Shelly de Killer

My rating: 3/10. I love the characterization here. I mentioned before that Kay eventually pays off and this is the case I'm thinking of. ...Of course, it's the case where Kay doesn't act like Kay at all. But I really enjoy Edgeworth and Kay's relationship in this chapter. Courtney's heel-face turn is nice, too. And Karin/Bonnie's role is pretty good. I like the twist of an unreliable autopsy on top of an unreliable narrator. But I don't really like anything else about this case, though. I find the murder pretty uninteresting and I feel like it relies a bit too heavily on fanservice to lift up what's there. I like Blaise, but he's such a massive jobber. And the pacing is slow. E2-2 is worse, but at least it has reason to be long. E2-4 does not, really.

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TopicWhat four Americans are on the Non-Political American Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Bitto
04/16/24 7:58:23 PM
#52
ZenOfThunder posted...
how dare Mr. Rogers talk to congress

if only we had a moderation staff back then

You can't spell government funding without government.

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TopicWhat four Americans are on the Non-Political American Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Bitto
04/16/24 7:10:08 PM
#34
Donald Trump
Ronald Reagan
Arnold Schwarzenneger
Clint Eastwood

Just nominating some non-political actors and entertainers.

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3)
Bitto
04/16/24 4:58:02 PM
#24
Who has the better damage animation? Gregory or Apollo?

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TopicWhat four game shows are on the Game Show Mount Rushmore?
Bitto
04/16/24 4:51:26 PM
#96
I was pretty mentally checked out on any result after Link/Shepard/Draven. Like I didn't even bat an eye at Vivi > Mario or Squirtle > Dante.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Bitto
04/16/24 4:34:13 PM
#419
I see the future. It's Videodrome.

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3)
Bitto
04/16/24 1:08:45 PM
#23
I tend to group the Case 3s into two categories: "filler case regarding a quirky topic" and "long case that builds up to finale". 6-3 falls into the second one, but I wouldn't necessarily call it epic. That said, this case and another game's Case 3 fall into that second one and I would call them epic cases.

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TopicPokemon R1D36 ft. Sneasel, Zigzagoon, Vulpix, Farfetch'D [PotY]
Bitto
04/16/24 12:53:01 PM
#27
Leaf Tornado Division
Aromatisse
Farfetch'd
Starly

Terrakion

Easy Vote Form
HYDRO CANNON
+3 Luxray
+2 Sneasel
+1 Raging Bolt
-1 Hitmonlee
-2 Stakataka
-3 Steenee

LEAF TORNADO
+3 Vulpix
+2 Excadrill
+1 Zoroark
-1 Taillow
-2 Metang
-3 Snorunt

Tough decisions today.

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TopicPokemon of the Year Hub Topic 2: Weak division. [PotY]
Bitto
04/16/24 12:48:38 PM
#180
Aw damn, I missed yesterday. I probably would have +3 Guzzlord, too.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Bitto
04/15/24 10:15:26 PM
#400
Man, what. I figured I'd be the top Christine ranker, but way too low.

Since we hate fun, guessing Evil Dead II

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TopicYes! A Great Ace Attorney Chronicles playthrough topic
Bitto
04/15/24 8:42:10 PM
#277
What do you think of Stronghart as a main antagonist?

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3)
Bitto
04/15/24 8:38:09 PM
#7
Paratroopa1 posted...
By the way you listed imprisoned turnabout as E2-3 in your list

Thanks! Fixed.

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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3)
Bitto
04/15/24 8:17:45 PM
#1
Rules:

  1. Rate each case on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. Anything above 10 gets rounded down to a 10, and anything below a 1 gets rounded up to a 1.
  2. Anything beyond one decimal point will be rounded accordingly: .04 and below will be rounded down, .05 and up will be rounded up.
  3. You may grade on any criteria you like.
  4. You can rate cases from previous topics if you miss a topic.


Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PiEuURt1qf19VoYzcFCU1EFa8uqs2teJiVcip7JmjDw/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Results:

Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5) - 9.8 (37 votes)
Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) - 9.7 (30 votes)
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4) - 9.2 (32 votes)
Turnabout Beginnings (3-4) - 8.4 (26 votes)
Rise from the Ashes (1-5) - 8.2 (28 votes)
The Stolen Turnabout (3-2) - 8.2 (24 votes)
Turnabout Samurai (1-3) - 7.4 (29 votes)
Turnabout Memories (3-1) - 7.4 (30 votes)
Turnabout Target (E2-1) - 7.1 (17 votes)
Turnabout Trump (4-1) - 6.9 (25 votes)
Recipe for Turnabout (3-3) - 6.6 (27 votes)
Reunion, and Turnabout (2-2) - 6.5 (25 votes)
Turnabout Ablaze (E1-5) - 6.0 (19 votes)
Turnabout Sisters (1-2) - 5.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Reminiscence (E1-4) - 5.6 (22 votes)
The Imprisoned Turnabout (E2-2) - 5.3 (16 votes)
Turnabout Visitor (E1-1) - 5.0 (20 votes)
The First Turnabout (1-1) - 4.9 (25 votes)
The Kidnapped Turnabout (E1-3) - 4.6 (22 votes)
Turnabout Airlines (E1-2) - 4.2 (22 votes)
Turnabout Corner (4-2) - 4.0 (25 votes)
Turnabout Big Top (2-3) - 3.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Succession (4-4) - 3.5 (24 votes)
The Lost Turnabout (2-1) - 3.3 (27 votes)
Turnabout Serenade (4-3) - 2.7 (24 votes)

Many considered this the weakest AAI2 case...and it still gets above a 5.0! The pacing is the huge killer here, with mostly everyone citing this to be the issue. Some of the characters were not entirely compelling either. On the other hand, mostly everyone liked the prison setting and the general conceit of the case.

Summary:

Eighteen years ago, Gregory Edgeworth took a case that would become the final case of his career. At the request of his father's former colleague and friend, Edgeworth rises to the challenge of solving the mystery that marred Manfred von Karma's perfect record, and cost his father his life.

Main Characters: Miles Edgeworth, Dick Gumshoe, Kay Faraday, Gregory Edgeworth, Raymond Shields, Tyrell Badd, Justine Courtney, Sebastian Debeste, Manfred von Karma
Other Characters: Jeffrey Master, Katherine Hall, Delicia Scones, Dane Gustavia, Larry Butz, Pierre Hoquet, Isaac Dover

My rating: 9.5/10. This is a contender for most epic and dramatic non-finale case in the entire series. Shields was fine in E2-2 but he really earned his mark here as Gregory's assistant. Playing as Gregory rules and I love the film noir design they gave him. Having one of the most influential background cases become reality and having it take place in a national dessert contest is wild and I feel like only Ace Attorney has the chutzpah to pull off. A case that switches between the past and the present is already a really cool idea and the pacing, while rough at times, feels decidedly earned. The cast is top notch too: Jeffrey and Katherine are both really compelling and sympathetic characters, Larry is a little less in the forefront which works for him, Gustavia's a giant question mark until he reveals himself to be an asshole, and Delicia is the rare quirky Ace Attorney witness that just works.

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