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https://streamable.com/095ump snake

lol they even dressed him up

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

Girls are having babies so early these days, smh.

This situation actually occurs in an animal, a certain type of mite.

Adactylidium is a type of mite which probably has the fastest (and possibly the most disturbing) mating cycle of any animal: the male mates with his sisters in the mother's womb. The baby mites then eat their way out of the mother and the process is repeated in four days. In some species, the male emerges from the mother alongside his sisters and then dies a few hours later, while in other species, he doesn't emerge at all, because his only purpose was to impregnate his unborn sisters

Or if you want a pop culture reference, like Kangaskhan.

People who found Snow White's kiss hot are potential child molesters.

Apparently a man getting hit in the face with a chainsaw is youtube kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBFr6I_bO84

But the music video for Scatman's World is age restricted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02vDkMEdIkY

They're a mess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxJCOVsV1E
"People go to Japan for anime and public fox-farms.

I dont.

I go there for this."

Hero

Ladybugs look like nightmares as babies but become beautiful as adults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws_D5nXOAJg

When the resident evil enemies defeat the protaganist except the protaganist is evil.

Birds are smarter than we give them credit for.

Did it actually go on someone's face? The cat flicked the spider to the left quite a distance away from the camera.

First hawks that use fire, now this.

Mightyena vs Seviper

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Hes a replacement, and won first place in some tournament to get that. I guess if someone gets hurt or cant go, then he goes.

I see Interesting. I guess they don't screen for the winners?

Eleventyish posted...

I wonder if it has to do with alternate word definitions. I learned about the alternate definition before the typical one when I was younger.

The song named after him and has several times the views is perfectly fine though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8

Who selected him in the first place? Someone from the US or the IOC?

And they age restrict the music video for Scatman's World for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02vDkMEdIkY

Adactylidium is a type of mite which probably has the fastest (and possibly the most disturbing) mating cycle of any animal: the male mates with his sisters in the mother's womb. The baby mites then eat their way out of the mother and the process is repeated in four days. In some species, the male emerges from the mother alongside his sisters and then dies a few hours later, while in other species, he doesn't emerge at all, because his only purpose was to impregnate his unborn sisters

While not quite as extreme as Adactylidium, the common stoat has a very bizarre mating strategy for a mammal. While males sexually mature at about a year old, females are sexually mature at three weeks old, when they're still blind, deaf, and hairless, and the mother will let adult males mate with her female kits while they're still infants. Female stoats are able to retain sperm from mating for up to ten months later before fertilization and spend almost all their life pregnant.

According to this https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/hy72gl/til_that_biologists_are_still_yet_to_confirm_how/fzbkwij/
scientists know how they reproduce. They've just never seen it due to how big the ocean is.
However, Asian scientists have been able to get them to breed in captivity.

Wonder what Joe40001 would think of this

Good. Hope it's a long one.

Ryuko_Chan posted...

is there any set I could run on lapras to make it more useful? I love the Pokmon but she just never really does anything

noted on durant. Gonna try hone claws durant (what move should I drop for hone claws? Im thinking first impression or stomping tantrum maybe) and choice band bewear. Also I tossed in an umbreon to play utility and I made sylveon a choice specs Nuker.

Xurkitree doesnt seem like a big threat. My real weakness is physical sweepers that can 1v1 bewear/durant

If you're perish trapping why are you using an offensive spread? I'd suggest changing it to a defensive spread and change grip claw to leftovers.

TC came back to post this topic

Ryven posted...

Best part is they taped her mouth

This lol

joe40001 posted...

You are flip flopping on your stance within your post.

"you either have it or you don't" isn't true. Having it save for obscenity is obviously vastly different than having massive censorship on everything.

It's clear what they do, I've explained it endless times. If you don't think what it is should be called inspired by free speech or pro-free speech that's on you. From context it's clear what they mean, and it's free speech minus porn.

Sonic porn has never been considered obscenity.
In any case, you can't disprove this one statement: a site that bans hate speech/hate inciting rhetoric is in the same category as a site that bans porn.

Either both of them aren't free speech or both of them fall under the standards of free speech minus something. Anything else is special pleading.

joe40001 posted...

I don't even know what you are trying to argue anymore.

Gettr is clear on it's rules, those rules seem in keep with free speech as an ideal, with an exception for pornography.

So does Twitter. In fact, Twitter actually does say it has free speech.
Twitter's free speech and rights of people | Twitter Help https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/defending-and-respecting-our-users-voice
I was trying to say you have have free speech or you don't. It doesn't matter who censors more. But since you linked to that Wikipedia page that hurts your argument just as much, but the other way. By the standards of what's considered "free", even if Twitter censors more, it still would fall under "pro-free speech".

joe40001 posted...

What? No. You asked me to provide evidence that there can be degrees to freedom of speech and then you would admit you were wrong and I did.

A. Most "free" countries have the same kind of anti-hate speech policies that Twitter has into their law which is why most free speech pundits don't believe they have full free speech, hell a site like Gettr might not be allowed to be hosted on their servers.

B. Your site actually didn't show any degree for free speech. Just freedom of the press and whether sites have filters. It doesn't say anything about giving citizens the right to say or create whatever they want.
"Freedom of Speech" in its broadest term actually just applies to being able to criticize the government. Governments are considered to have "freedom of speech" if they allow themselves to be criticized. Any other thing is generally fair game to bar if their society doesn't want it.

joe40001 posted...

But this just speaks to how there are degrees to freedom of speech.

And so if we acknowledge that, "everything but porn" is a pretty clear and pretty free degree of freedom of speech.

So now you're saying free speech is purely subjective? That it depends on the individual? So I can say Youtube, Twitter and resetera, and any other site is a clear cut and free degree of free speech?

joe40001 posted...

Right so there is evidence that "says being considered pro free speech is a competition based on how much is censored"

I ask this because I'm not sure if you realize but most of the countries that are under "pro free speech" literally criminalize many forms of speech. Most famously, any support of Nazis in Europe and stuff like Canada putting Twitter's intentional misgendering policy into their law. Hate speech is outright illegal in most of those countries too. Twitter and even gamefaqs would be pro-free speech under those standards.
Most pro-free speech pundits would most certainly not consider those countries pro-free speech. After all they don't have the explicit first amendment the US prides themselves on.

joe40001 posted...

Thank you. I like truth testable claims:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_country

Censorship by country collects information on censorship, Internet censorship, Freedom of the Press, Freedom of speech, and Human Rights by country and presents it in a sortable table, together with links to articles with more information. In addition to countries, the table includes information on former countries, disputed countries, political sub-units within countries, and regional organizations.

Freedom House (FH) Freedom of the Press report:[1] 10 is most free, 99 is least free
Freedom of the Press was an annual report on media independence around the world, published between 1980 and 2017 by US-based non-governmental organization Freedom House.[2] It presented measurements of the level of freedom and editorial independence enjoyed by the press in nations and significant disputed territories around the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
Reporters Without Borders (RWB) Press freedom index:[2] 6 is most free, 85 is least free
The Press Freedom Index is an annual ranking of countries compiled and published by Reporters Without Borders since 2002 based upon the organisation's own assessment of the countries' press freedom records in the previous year. It intends to reflect the degree of freedom that journalists, news organisations, and netizens have in each country, and the efforts made by authorities to respect this freedom. Reporters Without Borders is careful to note that the index only deals with press freedom and does not measure the quality of journalism, nor does it look at human rights violations in general.[2]

So which countries are pro-free speech and which ones aren't?

joe40001 posted...

Also this:
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/IF11072.pdf

Where I direct your attention to the section on "obscenity"

Now even for my tastes that's a bit broad, but it highlights quite clearly how pornographic content is not the exact same thing as the main part of what is being talked about in freedom of speech.

Yes, that's similar to the doctrine where offensive speech and fighting words are not protected under the first amendment under certain circumstances.

hockeybub89 posted...

Didn't someone in this topic mention that Gettr is "censoring" more than just porn though? Weird to shit on mainstream websites for inconsistent censorship and then just take at face value that every random other website has clear cut rules that they enforce with perfect objectivity and clarity.

If some weird clown world happens and Gettr becomes the new Twitter, will they need to start to allow all speech due to their newfound influence?

Why can't conservatives just admit that it's ok to have "safe spaces" instead of creating 10,000 websites, TV networks, etc that are "free speech, but speech we want to hear". The Internet works better as an infinite number of communities anyway.

The TOS was already shared and they blatantly made it so that they can moderate whatever they want and don't have to be consistent while doing so but joe ignored it of course.

joe40001 posted...

They've censored more than most. And do I think twitter is pro free speech despite not wanting to be? No.

Free speech isn't a competition. You either have it or you don't. If Gettr can be considered pro free speech despite censoring porn then Twitter can be considered pro free speech while censoring too. Since you're so keen on deals we can make one right now. If you can find a source that says being considered pro free speech is a competition based on how much is censored then I concede. If you can't you lose.

joe40001 posted...

It's very clear what they are for, it's made as a response to twitter, so they don't censor thoughts.

Porn is mostly shared for porn purposes, not as actual arguments.

Whatever free speech minus porn is, that's what they are for. It's pretty clear simple and easy to understand. Some free and open places don't allow porn, it's not appropriate. If somebody in my office was like "ok time to brainstorm on this project, there is no such thing as a bad idea" and I held up a picture of sonic porn, I'd probably get in serious trouble.

Because most people can clearly understand that sonic porn is not what people are talking about when they talk about ideas.

Porn is a thought. Gettr is more than just arguments. It's a general site that allows all kinds of off-topic related entertainment. Most free and open places don't allow people to just shout and spam racial slurs and hate speech either.
Again, all you're doing is special pleading after I've already told you it's special pleading and once again you're repeating yourself. Next time you repeat yourself you lose and I'm just going "going to resort to ad hominems" because that's all you're worth at that point since you've already lost.

joe40001 posted...

No, even they don't claim to be.

So you actually think that people claiming something is the most important thing? So if someone supports Hitler and the Nazi ideology but claim they aren't a neo-nazi that means they're not one? Their actions are the same. If gettr can be considered pro-free speech without porn then twitter can be considered pro-free speech without hate speech or conspiracy theories.

joe40001 posted...

And that's fine, but that's not what Gettr is for.

That's fine. They're not for free speech though if they specifically exclude a type of speech.

joe40001 posted...

If twitter admitted that they were "For free speech minus right wing ideas" that would be a step in the right direction as far as honesty goes.

Everybody knows what porn is and isn't, you don't have conversations by sharing porn images, it's fine for what it is but it really isn't that hard to wrap you head around a site that's twitter like but is more free speech except for porn, which it doesn't allow.

Ah so your new stance is that Twitter really is pro-free speech then?

You absolutely can. This really is an indication of your lack of experience. There were plenty of porn fanartists on tumblr and twitter who can share those images with each other to create a story or critique each other on the relationships or imagery being presented in the porn.

joe40001 posted...

Everybody excuses sites for having rules.

And you yourself think they don't have free speech. Just imagine if a twitter shill used the same arguments you do for claiming Twitter is free speech. "Twitter is free speech minus right wing garbage". "Twitter is for the sharing of ideas, not for the sharing of right wing hate speech, which aren't real ideas". Completely inconsistent and no true scots man isn't it? That's what you're doing except you think you're justified in thinking porn is different. Here's the thing. Everybody thinks they're justified. If you're for FREE speech you'd look beyond your biases and see things completely impartially and realize that if a site is literally dedicated to free speech and they ban something because they got annoyed by it then they're not actually free speech even if the thing they banned is something you don't care about.

And here's the kicker. I doubt they banned all porn. There are likely still plenty of sexual images there. I'm not sure how you can say that's anything other than them just censoring things they're grossed out by.

joe40001 posted...

And like i said a dozen times:
they are pro free speech when it comes to the sharing of ideas, or alternatively they are pro free speech but not a place for pornography."

So take free speech, subtract porn, that's what they support.

That's perfectly understandable and consistent.

I already pointed out how this is a special pleading fallacy. Your need to plug your ears and continue repeating and doubling down on things that have already been addressed is why everyone dislikes you, considers you a troll, and won't debate you seriously. Because that's not worth debating.

joe40001 posted...

Porn is, at best, artistic expression, yes it shares an idea, but not in the traditional sense. It is largely just graphic imagery/video meant to tidalite and arouse. Which is clearly not what the site is about.

Yes it is. This is you just changing the goalposts and special pleading.
In fact pretty much the thing you've been doing the entire topic is special pleading.
https://www.logicalfallacies.org/special-pleading.html
"Porn is free speech but it's not the same BECAUSE *mental gymnastics I made up"
"Sites making rules isn't censorship. Except if they're a monopoly because I said so."
"Sites removing posts that violate their policies because that's not what their site is about is policing users. Except when it's porn because that's not what the site is about."
You have no arguments. Just baseless claims and hypocrisy.

I've been saying you know this and are intentionally trolling just because you want to have the last word and to piss us off but if you really still think you haven't been thoroughly proven wrong then I'm going to have to just say that your condition is what makes you unable to see that you're being a completely inconsistent hypocrite. You have a warped thinking process.

Porn is not an important part of the speech that I care about.

This sums it up perfectly. You're not pro-free speech if you excuse people not allowing speech you don't care about.

joe40001 posted...

they are pro free speech when it comes to the sharing of ideas, or alternatively they are pro free speech but not a place for pornography."

Porn is a sharing of idea so no. The second doesn't exist. There is no further argument here. This is you just doubling down on stupidity.

joe40001 posted...

So you can't name a single specific thing?

I think 2+2=4, am I wrong about that?

You've already lost. Your one sole argument boils down to you personally arbitrarily thinking porn isn't speech/ an idea and making nonsensical mental gymnastics to do it. Your sole argument can be reduced to "because I think so despite everyone saying I'm wrong". Which makes sense given your failure status in life and subsequent dunning kruger effect. You've went from being self-hating to becoming a stubborn narcissist who acts like he's always right to cope.