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TopicImagine avoiding a vaccine because you're scared of your arm being sore
Olld-Onne
07/30/21 5:25:04 PM
#56
agesboy posted...
no its a pretty preliminary step dude

can you cite some studies that show fevers only happen as a last resort
If it preliminary how have many who have contracted Covid not had a fever then?. Any raise in body temperature is unwanted even if it is to fight a virus. A mild fever can become a high fever. A high fever can kill you if you did not know.

There is no other response once you get into a high fever. It either does the job, you die from the virus or the fever kills you instead if it lasts too long due to damaging your internal cells. The high fever is the last resort. Not the mild one. But the mild one can turn into a high one.

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TopicImagine avoiding a vaccine because you're scared of your arm being sore
Olld-Onne
07/30/21 5:02:48 PM
#53
Clench281 posted...
you said fever is last ditch effort if your white blood cells fail to neutralize a novel pathogen

we get to ignore everything you say
So being over 37 up to 100 degrees is not a problem it seems. Even though your body tries at all other times to maintain that 37 degrees through shivering when cold and sweating when hot. Your body does not want to resort to fever but does so if it has to.

If all other methods fail the body creates a high temperature in order to kill the virus with heat while not trying to succumb to the heat itself. This is why doctors become very concerned if you are running a high fever. A mild fever may not be so bad but it still affects the body negatively. There is nothing beyond a high fever other than what doctors can do. If the virus does not kill you the extreme heat your body is creating will. It very much last ditch effort mechanics.

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TopicImagine avoiding a vaccine because you're scared of your arm being sore
Olld-Onne
07/30/21 4:35:06 PM
#49
Mead posted...
you have no clue what you are talking about

if your immune system is encounters a virus it has never encountered before, there is going to be a delay between initial infection and your body beginning to recognize it as a threat and then create antibodies. That has nothing to do with having a strong or weak immune system, that is just the way it works.

So if you contract covid and havent received the vaccine youre basically giving it a head start to infect your lung tissue and fuck up your brain and your heart before your body even starts fighting it.

If youre vaccinated and you get infected your body is gonna recognize and work on eliminating the virus in your system immediately
Not everyone will react the same way to a virus. There are people in Africa who are immune to HIV. You cannot just lump everyone in the same pool and think they would have to get all the symptoms or need a fever to kill it. This is why Covid is still around. Because not everyone even reacts to it the same way and thus they think they are not spreading it.

If you caught Covid before you will already have anti bodies anyway and as not everyone shows signs that have had it it quite possible a lot of people have already been exposed to Covid without knowing it.

Clench281 posted...
Sorry man, but fever is part of the innate immune response, which precedes the adaptive immune response when facing a novel antigen
It is if you are not able to deal with the virus quickly enough. Not everyone will develop a fever is the point i am making. I have not had a fever in over 10 years. And almost certainly had Covid last year due to a family member not informing they tested positive with it and I had no fever or coughing. They also did not develop a fever. Everyone is different after all.

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TopicImagine avoiding a vaccine because you're scared of your arm being sore
Olld-Onne
07/30/21 4:17:37 PM
#46
agesboy posted...
are you just ignoring what medical professionals say about fevers because your worldly personal wisdom outweighs their professional expertise
If you think having a fever is perfectly fine then you are wrong. Understand that professionals will say things so as to not incite alarm in patients at times. If your body is raising the temperature of itself to combat an illness it means it regular defences ( white blood cells) are not enough on their own to combat it.

The slightest raise in temperature from 37 degrees can easily start to destroy your own cells in the process. It basically a race to kill the simple organisms that tend not to fare well at high temperatures before your own body starts to destroy itself from the extra heat it is generating. A fever is never a good sign period as it can and will lead to death if it lasts too long.

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TopicImagine avoiding a vaccine because you're scared of your arm being sore
Olld-Onne
07/30/21 3:49:59 PM
#44
Getting a fever is not good no matter what you are told. It usually the last ditch effort to fight a virus and is potentially leading to death as the actual fever can kill you itself. An immune system does not need to resort to fever to get rid of an ailment if it is strong against it.

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Topic$325,000,000 but every single religious building on Earth is destroyed.
Olld-Onne
04/19/21 5:55:31 AM
#85
If some one is giving you the money then some one else ( or more ) knows what you did. How long do you think you will last when they offer your name for ten times what they gave you?. What goes around......

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