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Leonhart4 posted...

I'm assuming the song that plays during that scene is Announce the Truth 2009.

This one, and also the Yatagarasu theme maybe? Haven't dug deeper to avoid spoilers.

SeabassDebeste posted...

incredible soundtrack for this game.

Hard agree, this game's soundtrack is great.

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

We pin the perfume on the Yew. The window was opened to air out the room after perfume was spilled in Lobby 1. Obviously, Badd would be motivated to open the window after she spilled it, controlled in time to hear the gunshot. Yew claims she couldn't have killed Faraday. More testimony!

Yew insists that she wouldn't have killed him and also has no idea where the knife came from. All she saw in evidence was a key! We present the Yatagarasu Key, which flips into a knife. Yew claims to have known this, but even Det. Badd didn't know, and the late Faraday hadn't written this important detail in his case notes. The only person to know would have been the person who sent it in to the police - the Yatagarasu herself!

Calisto Yew confesses that is not her real name. She is the Great Thief Yatagarasu. Faraday found out, and they were trying to throw everyone off the scent by having Rell accuse Faraday of being the Yatagarasu. Rell's reluctance to do so led Yew to kill them both. Yew opened the key into the knife while using the plastic bag to avoid leaving fingerprints. Love this piece of bgm here.

Yew confesses to also being the client in the murder of Deid Mann!! She had hired Rell before, and she's a member of the smuggling ring. She whips out a pistol and fires at Miles before making her escape, Det. Badd in hot pursuit. Kay calls to Miles at the last moment, and he drops to the floor, avoiding the shot.

Yew gets away, Miles gives Gumshoe the Swiss roll from Kay, and Gumshoe swears undying loyalty to "Mr Edgeworth, sir"! Adorable.

We zoom back to modern day, and reminisce. Kay corrects that her father was the Yatagarasu, she wants to restore the noble nature of the Great Thief, and Miles does owe her one for saving his life back then. [insert GoT crossover quote here]. Miles joins in, provided we're not being crimeful. Gummy's cognitive dissonance is resolved - he was having a heck of a time choosing sides between Kay and Miles.

AAI1-5, Turnabout Ablaze, is next! See you then!!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Edgeworth keeps fighting for Gumshoe's innocence, insists that the gunshot heard was from the evidence VHS tape on the Lobby 2 TV turned all the way up. We point out that the windows in both lobbies were open, allowing the sound of the TV to travel between the otherwise soundproof rooms.

Miles gets ready [and so does the spirited bgm] and accuses Calisto Yew of the murders, claiming they happened long before the sound of the gunshot and therefore freeing up the time allotted for the murder to happen and opening up the list of possible suspects.

Yew does not seem intimidated by this accusation, Miles fears his argument may not be tight enough. She's been laughing at Miles and Franziska the whole time and shows no signs of stopping. Miles' whipped sprite is extra funny, and I love Yew stopping to apply makeup bc she's bored. Her sprite making a lipstick streak across her own cheek when she hears something that unsettles her is great in its subtlety. If she's the killer? Buckle up, I'm sure the sprites will be fun.

We'll find out more later [at lunch today, probs]. See you then!

Thought I ordered crispy homestyle chicken sandwich at Wendy's, must've ordered a grilled chicken sandwich by accident... jump starting my healthy face turn 2022 XD

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Investigation Complete
I guess that's all we needed to do? The bailiff's wigging out, we're being summoned by Yew. The time has come to uncover the truth! chapter end o/

The bulletholes on Badd's trench are...baffling. How did this guy survive??

Kay's investigating, Badd encourages her to continue. Maybe to keep her busy? Guess so! We'll hear Yew's testimony next time. See you then!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Badd seems relatively unperturbed at the idea of Miles and Franziska poking around. We find the Surveillance Tape still in the VHS player, containing the footage of Rell killing the embassy employee. This gunshot sound effect could be timed to throw investigators off the scent of when the murder took place, everyone could hear since all windows were open.

Badd is not happy that the sound he heard was from a recording. I'm interested to see how he ties in, he doesn't seem badd as things go on, but perhaps it's all an act... Yew is the more likely candidate, but they both seem to be covering something up.

Hope to uncover more soon. See you then!

I am back in town, but need a breather. Posts will resume tomorrow.

Please note: I will be busy tomorrow through Monday, 3/7. You'll probably see more posts after the 8th.

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Okay so apparently Kay promised her father a bunch of stuff, there's a Promise notebook. The cravat gets lent to her and she can wash and return it.

At the point of eating the Swiss roll, Kay popped a balloon she had and surprised Gummy, causing him to drop the remains of the roll [thus the pink balloon remnant and the ants carrying away bits of the roll. Kay, the lovable scamp.

We go into Lobby No. 1 which smells strongly of Yew's perfume, and talk to Badd about various things - his background with both Yew and Gumshoe, KG-8, and the Yatagarasu. We see the white card that the Yatagarasu sends, and learn some things about the way the grand thief operates.

We review evidence left on the prosecutor's bench, and find out that the knife flips and doubles as the Yatagarasu key! With this special piece of information revealed to Badd, we make him testify again. Hopefully we can extract some useful knowledge from the exchange.

Lang appears here but as a rookie briefly speaking with Badd. Lang's unmistakable BGM was funny to me bc of his reduced status at this point in time.

We'll find out more next time. See you then!

LeonhartFour posted...

Weird headcanon thing that I used to subscribe to before Dual Destinies: Apollo Justice is an alternate timeline that branched off from the bad ending of 2-4.

Oooh, intriguing!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Talented, brilliant, incredible, amazing, show stopping, spectacular, never the same, totally unique
-Lady Gaga

Seriously. I love this franchise. It is truly the best. We interrogate Gumshoe, his lying is the worst, he will be never recognized by the Academy. He claims he never moved more than an inch from the door, we point out the Swiss roll mess he made, he claims there was no one there in the hallway with him, we try to point out Kay was there, but then Kay appears!

She kicks, or attempts to kick, Miles in the shins again. She introduces herself, insists on being called by name directly [rather than by pronouns], and shares her involvement. She helped Gumshoe [who she lovingly refers to as 'Gummy'] buy a 2-pack of Swiss rolls and split them with him, claiming she was saving the second one for her dad.

Edgeworth is about to jump in and level with the kid in a tactful fashion, but Gumshoe insists that he not. Kay reveals that she's aware her dad is dead, she heard the guards discussing it. She can't hold it back any longer, and lets out a wail of anguish. Real tears well up in her eyes and dribble down her cheeks. Miles recognizes that familiar feeling and a certain kinship with Kay, having lost his dad [don't forget DL-6!] all those years before. Miles kneels down to offer her a handkerchief to dry her tears, but-

Kay runs right up to his chest and starts blowing her nose quite noisily in his cravat/jabot thing. The special artwork showing his shocked sprite is... worth the price of admission right there. Seriously. Anything that throws off Miles Edgeworth, I want front row seats.

I couldn't stop laughing, and it was also the end of my lunch at that point. Will young Edgeworth push this young tyke to pay for dry cleaning? Is this the beginning of melting that icy von-Karma-raised exterior??

We'll continue next time! See you then!

Thread announcement: This is my birthday/Valentine's Day weekend, so I'm taking off until Tuesday, 2/15. Leave any AA headcanons [strange? funny? Darke?] for me to read, and I'll see you guys then!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Maybe I'm getting started too early in the day, but why the heck was this so difficult?? Ohhhh. I had to present Det. Badd's testimony before jumping to 'you heard a balloon pop, your honor, not a gunshot' >_______>

We are getting to the bottom of this, we are reminded that Tiny!Kay Faraday was running around with a balloon. The Judge offers to clear Gumshoe's name, but Miles insists on questioning him further. Miles won't rest until he has the perfect explanation to what happened. [aww, he want to question the boyfriend, haha]

We'll rake Gumshoe over some hot coals next time. See you then.

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Miles and Franziska catch up to the Judge in the courtroom, and he's pretty freaked out for illogical reasons. The Judge has never actually testified before, so this is a franchise first, ain't it?

The Judge talks about going to the bathroom during the court recess, witnessing Gumshoe buying something from the vending machines, and then later going missing, nowhere to be found. The hallway is entirely visible from the men's bathroom, as mentioned previously.

You use the phrase HOLD IT to press, I wish that the Judge responded, "I couldn't!!!" when you ask him why he went to the bathroom

The Judge is 100% sure it was Gumshoe and identifies his hairstyle, stature, and beige trenchcoat. We point out that our dear detective was sitting on the bench under the hallway window, unable to be seen from the men's restroom, as he ate a Swiss roll.

We'll dig a little deeper next time. See you then!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Franziska and Miles introduce themselves to the Judge, and inquire further as to the Judge's testimony. He could see the hallway from the men's restroom across the way. He saw Gumshoe buy something from the vending machine, but then when the Judge was about to exit the restroom, there was no one in the hallway at all.

We poke around the hallway investigating, we find Gumshoe's handprint on the bench, ants are carrying away bits of a swiss roll, and there's a suspicious-looking cactus on the window ledge. We quiz Badd on a few items. He heard the gunshot go off just as the trial was about to resume, he was in lobby 1 when the murder happened in lobby 2, Gumshoe was a rando sent over by the force, and he never left the hallway, according to Badd. Franziska did say something about Badd letting the prosecutor die, and his sprite went a little haywire about that - so I'm keeping that in mind.

No one can look more menacing pulling out a mirror, or more self-absorbed to admire himself so frequently. I throw more Organizer items at the guy, and he talks about being close with Faraday, even though he calls him 'a boy with a silver spoon in his mouth'. Badd mentions having life-long regrets related to the KG-8 case.

We're trying Logic. We suspect Gumshoe bought the Swiss roll and ate it on the bench, dropping it at some point and causing the mess and the handprint. I am trying to deduce because we have ONE Swiss roll and they come in packs of TWO... but it's having none of it. ...omg. They wanted me to figure out that the Swiss rolls are $6 and Gumshoe only had $5 to his name because of the Bonus Envelope. Hrrrrgghhhhh, Ace Attorney nonsense strikes again!

We figure the pink piece of trash is the remains of a balloon, popped by Mr Cactus in the window.

Investigation Complete

We meet with the Judge next time. See you then!

LeonhartFour posted...

isn't it just adorable when kids sneak up behind someone and kick them

I seriously wasn't expecting her to take him out like that though XD

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

We talk to Yew and after plentiful guffaws, she admits that Cece Yew, the victim from KG-8, was her younger sister.

We beg MvK to let us continue our healthy rivalry with Franziska, and he reluctantly lets us. There's a crowd of clueless constables hanging around, so we talk to Calisto Yew a bit longer before returning to Gumshoe, who continues to protest his innocence. He didn't do it, pal!

Gumshoe was assigned by Det. Badd to keep an eye on things. Faraday's blowup at Gummy last week was about his lack of punctuality - the detective had forgotten where he was supposed to be and went to the wrong place. By the time he circled back to Criminal Affairs, he was late. Could happen to anyone!

What I suspect to be Tiny!Kay runs up and kicks Edgeworth in the back of the knees, causing him to collapse like a folding chair. Kids these days. She drops a vending machine swiss roll on the ground as she makes a speedy getaway.

Franziska and Miles figure it wouldn't hurt to examine the hallway once more. Det. Badd and the Judge are discussing something - we'll find out what it is, next time.

See you then!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

We figure out that the bodies couldn't have been close to each other, we determine the order of death, and come to the conclusion - another person must have been in the room and killed both these men. The ziploc bag of Faraday's blood was meant for cleanup, to keep the splatter contained.

Calisto Yew and the Judge enter the room, and Det. Gumshoe is immediately accused of the murder of both men, with the Judge testifying that he saw the hallway EMPTY when Gumshoe was supposed to be guarding the door! Gumshoe is incensed at the very suggestion, so we dig into his possible motivations... Yew proposes that a very public argument with Faraday prior where the deceased threatened to reduce Gummy's salary is the perfect opportunity to hold a grudge.

How could anyone accuse sweet, cuddly, adorable Gumshoe? There oughta be a law against harassing such a good guy.

Miles cross-examines Ms. Yew. Gumshoe only had a motive to kill Faraday, but Rell was also dead - Yew explains this away by claiming Rell was a witness that had to be silenced.

...Franziska threatens to whip Ms. Yew if she doesn't stay on task with her line of thinking, and Ms. Yew suggests that 'that might be kind of fun'. HmmmmMMMMM.

We have a copy of a newspaper that mentions another Ms. Yew as a victim of Manny Coachen, possibly a relation? We determine Manny Coachen wanted both men dead, but he was seated in the courtroom gallery, under watchful police surveillance. Gumshoe is still on the hook, and Badd takes him elsewhere to be interrogated.

Did Badd kill 'em? He's the only one without a color scheme, just greys everywhere. 49, or possibly 50 shades? XD

We quiz Calisto Yew on the KG-8 incident, and insist she's related to it because of the victim, Cece Yew! We will continue prodding for info with a smug sense of superiority next time.

See you then!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

We get into a big scrape with Franziska about when and where and how the men killed each other and died. She talks about a struggle, but Gumshoe testified that he didn't hear a disturbance inside the room at the time. Faraday died instantly of a stab wound, but Rell died some time after being shot.

There are also no point-blank burn marks, so Rell must have been shot from a distance. Not only is Faraday's gun in the wrong hand for his supposed left-handedness, but his body is improbably on top of Rell's?? Somewhat unlikely that you would try to stab someone with a short-bladed knife at that point, rather than run off and try to get medical attention for your gunshot wound at that point.

Just blood on one ziploc evidence bag? And it's only Faraday's? Plastic bags like that on a hard surface are very slippery, maybe they ran towards each other and fell [and then someone rearranged at least one of the weapons post-mortem?]. There is no Occam's razor, ever. This is Ace Attorney, people!

Franziska's a pain, but she's a cute pain, so we'll let it slide this time. We unravel the mystery of the body pile-up order next. See you soon!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

I put together the easiest one, that of the ink stain on Faraday's left hand and the fountain pen in his pocket. If he writes with his left hand, odds are very good that he's left-handed. Which is a good thing. I like lefties. [Bolo is a lefty. ;D]

Mr Faraday's blood is on the outside of one of the evidence bags strewn about the floor.

We point out that Mr Faraday is left-handed, and the gun must've been placed in his right hand after his death.

Investigation Complete

We receive an autopsy report from Det. Badd. Hope it's the updated one. We'll see, next time!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

We examine the bodies - Faraday's holding a gun, Rell's holding a knife, there are plastic evidence bags strewn about underneath them [one of which is quite bloodied]. There's a black ink stain on Faraday's left hand.

Badd gives permission at our request, and Gumshoe moves the bodies face-up so we can examine them in greater detail. Gumshoe is too cute, he feels bad about moving the bodies, and he's imagining being killed in extreme detail as we poke around.

Rell's gunshot wound in the chest doesn't have any burn marks, so it must have been at a distance. Faraday's pocket contains a fountain pen. Ngl Faraday is pretty attractive. I usually prefer hair on men to be either much longer or shorter than his, but it's attractively cut.

Gumshoe tells you that Rell has been in for theft and assault multiple times, aside from killing Deid Mann from the Cohdopian embassy.

We've picked up a few details. Let's try Logic next time. See you then!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

Chibi!Franziska insists that the investigation be a competition to see who deserves to carry on the von Karma name. Badd and Gumshoe proceed to treat both Miles and Franziska as small children. This was too funny.

The air is electric - Franziska is rooted to the spot next to the pile of bodies while we wander around the room and poke at the various items therein. Gumshoe marvels over the size of the TV, we note that the items on the table [a tea set, some plastic bags] are neatly undisturbed.

It's time for me to scoot the terrifying tot aside and investigate the bodies for myself. As Miles Edgeworth says, "I won't rest until I've inspected every suspicious-looking nook and cranny." Which is particularly troubling when we're talking about dead, human bodies.

Until next time!

PS - picked up an old Sub-Mariner comic from 1976 (Death is the Symbionic Man!, Vol. 1) from my local comic shop and it was pretty entertaining. Nearly forgot how much of an appealing anti-hero the guy was. The real epitome of 'I don't care who started it, I'll finish it'.

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

There's someone to see Calisto Yew [hereby known as Ms. Yew, which, we don't] - it's Manny Coachen, the Cohdopian Embassy staff member and suspect in the KG-8 incident. The two of them leave to have a chat, which, suspich, but okay...

MvK shows up, trades barbs with Det. Badd, and just as MvK is about to place Edgeworth in charge of the investigation... a small girl runs up with a tiny riding crop. Oh... Oh goodness. Franziska is adorable. She's trying to be so competitive and sassy, but it's cute XD The longer hair is a choice, between that and the lack of white blouse, she looks very young indeed.

MvK decides to have them both on the investigation, lawl. Badd hates it, but he can't exactly refuse.

We'll be getting more deets from Det. Badd next time! See you then!

NFUN posted...

godot pouring coffee into a cup of ramen

have not forgotten about this. I wanna get a sketch up this week.

Leonhart4 posted...

They try to downplay that aspect of his character

Boooo.

I mean, it's part of his character arc! We have to see the full development. Make him as jerky as possible when he's young, so we can appreciate the improvement!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

We go to the courtroom, but a youthful detective busts in and yells about the defendant AND Mr Faraday being dead in the other room! Karma sputters, insisting the bailiff take him away. Young Mr Edgeworth runs off to the scene of the crime, but he's blocked by a scruffy, tall German Shepherd of a man, scarred all over, his trenchcoat riddled with giant bullet holes and other weathering. This man will not allow anyone in.

We question the detective, one Dick Gumshoe by name, and he says Det. Badd is leading the investigation, so you'll have to pursue details through him. Gumshoe was on guard detail for the Defendant Lobby No. 2 at the time of the shooting. There is a moment of recognition between the two of them for how scary it is to hear a gunshot. Weird, bc there was no sound of a struggle.

Goodness, I forgot how annoying it was to see young Edgey aping Karma's mannerisms. It makes him seem like such a jerk.

We speak to Calisto Yew next, and upon introduction as a mentee of Karma, she starts cracking up laughing. Those clothes are a dead giveaway, she says. Welp. They sure are. She keeps laughing at your manner of speech, your tactlessness and how much of a little Karma clone you are. Time to call the Karma police [tell me what band and you get a cookie].

Turns out Calisto Yew is the lawyer in this case. She's hanging around because of the murder.

We meet Det. Tyrell Badd from Homicide. Gumshoe wants to be an Ace Detective just like him in time. He was on hand to testify about the Yatagarasu's characteristics. Apparently there was a gun and a knife, and Mack Rell had the bloody knife in his hand. No one else but the victims and Det. Dick Gumshoe, entered the room. They have the cutest little 'no brain in head' sprite animation of Gumshoe when Badd points him out, pffff.

Okay, continued investigation next time! See you then!

I am hoping to play later today, but tomorrow if I don't.

Offtopic: saw Encanto and really enjoyed it.

NFUN posted...

godot pouring coffee into a cup of ramen

I better get on this

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

oh no the victim is Mr Deid Mann, we're scraping the bottom of the barrel

The defendant, Mack Rell, is insisting that although there's security footage of him killing the victim, he was put up to it by the real Yatagarasu, Byrne Faraday.

People are calling this the second KG-8 incident!! Amano Group scandal involved Mr Ernest Amano's secretary confessing to smuggling. An employee of the Group, Cece Yew XD was the one who said "I see you" >_> Unfortunately, she was silenced before she could testify. A man named Manny Coachen was found not guilty through lack of evidence. Wonder if Manny Coachen is Mr Jacques Sportsman's dad or uncle or something.

The Yatagarasu is being kept very hush-hush for some reason. We're urged to ask Mr Faraday for more info.

Kay comes by and tells Manfred he's scary, lol.
She also trades some change for a paper dollar from Edgeworth. Maybe. Unless she's already learned some tricks, in which case she has two dollars.

We enter the courtroom next time! See you then!

How do we feel about fan art all up in this thread?

I've been wanting to draw digitally more often in 2022 and I'm open to suggestions for small sketches of AA characters, nothing elaborate.

AAI1-3: Kidnapped Turnabout

We learn that the end of the hallway is a reflection of an angled mirror, the sound of breaking glass Edgeworth heard was related to that. The seated Badger was the body of the victim. Lance squeals, and Lang arrests both Lance and his father, Mr Amano! Apparently there was a smuggling ring and Mr Amano must have let Colin Devorae take the fall for it, doing jail time and everything.

Between Lang and his assistant Shih-na, we learn that Lang's family of police had their reputation dragged through the mud via falsified evidence and that's why he hates prosecutors. Knowing that Edgeworth learned under Von Karma [who was known for falsifying evidence or at the very least, not losing a case in a weirdly long period of time], he suspected Edgeworth of being untrustworthy and working in league with Mr Amano.

Kay teases Edgeworth and Gumshoe about not remembering her and whisks out a white scarf. That seems familiar, but ehhhh...

This was pretty convoluted as AA cases go, and instead of making me excited to find the next clue, I had to take a couple months off XD Even after solving it, it didn't really seem to come together for me. I was happy it was over, and read the chronological writeup elsewhere to grok what even happened. :|

on to the next case!!

AAI1-4: Turnabout Reminiscence

I guess that scarf takes us back - Kay Faraday, the 2nd Yatagarasu, is taking us on a trip down memory lane. We get a flashback to 7 years ago. Mr Faraday [Kay's...??] is serving as prosecutor when the defendant on the stand suddenly admits to the murder, and insists that he did it at the Yatagarasu's behest! The defense is stunned, and upon further questioning the defendant points out Mr Faraday as the Yatagarasu! He knows for sure! The Judge suggests a recess until the prosecutor can be replaced.

It's BABY. EDGEWORTH. With his more ridiculous jacket. With all the bells and whistles. Yayyyy.

MvK urges him to CRUSH the defendant's lies! D: Goodness I barely forgot the imposing presence that MvK brings to my tiny DS Lite screen, but this is a great refresher.

We will probably poke around this room as Baby!Edgeworth next time, we've got an hour of recess [the mental image I have of MvK running up out of nowhere, bellowing, "I'VE GOT A PROTEGE TO REPLACE THIS USELESS PROSECUTOR" is hilarious] to get up to speed.

See you tomorrow!

AAI1-3: Kidnapped Turnabout

Kay Faraday runs in with her MacGuffin, saying we can add all the testimonies together and figure out exactly what occurred in the haunted house.

We talk about a Badger at the end of the hallway, who we suspect then got up and struck Edgeworth as he turned out of the Dining Room to leave out the Exit. Lance claims he was never in the Haunted House, and tries to pin it on Colin/Oliver.

Kay sets things up, we figure the Badger was perhaps the Bad Badger who attacked Edgeworth, we figure out it must have been with the Prop Sword that was then brought elsewhere and used to bar the door, after which it was broken. A luminol test reveals a small amount of blood [presumably from near Edgeworth's temple].

Now we're staring at the generated image of the Bad Badger about to attack Edgeworth with the Prop Sword. I've got Logic, Deduce, and Organizer options >____> we'll see next time!

A hearty shoutout to @Team_Rocket_Elite , for saving this thread once again.

Wishing you all a lovely start to 2022!

ftr

Don't forget DL-6, y'all.

LeonhartFour posted...

I'd also invite Franziska just to see her suffer being unable to whip anyone present

and maybe Larry as the third for maximum torment

I mean, she's absolutely able to scream at people. Which may already be happening at your holiday meal, Idk.

I'd invite Gant, Gumshoe, and probably Maya. I don't have anyone to punish, and it would be fun to watch the big personality go.

Thanks.

You can have 3 AA characters over for a holiday meal. They cannot physically hurt anyone without your permission. Who are you inviting?

Think the issue is that I haven't been integrating this into my lunches at werk, and that's what helps it stay consistent.