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Medussa posted...

my consciousness isn't. i literally go from falling asleep to waking up, with absolutely nothing in between.

And my point is that you don't. Even if you don't remember your dreams, your brain is performing important tasks during sleep. I don't see how consciousness plays into it as you still have experiences while sleeping, even if they aren't "real".

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Did you see the news about the ~200 bodies of Indigeneous children (youngest was 3, I think) found in British Columbia recently?

How about the Muslim family that was intentionally hit by an Islamophobic truck driver, leaving a little boy in the hospital while his sister and parents were killed?

And that's in the last month.

It's cool here, I guess, but don't kid yourself into thinking it's some kind of haven.

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Medussa posted...

really? it happens to me almost every night

Sleeping is not the same as ceasing to exist. Your mind is very active.

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Lairen posted...

Yeah its really for people that have too much money and time. Literally.

Or you decide you want something, estimate the price, and save up for it. Like any adult purchase.

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I have 2 and am getting my 3rd in the fall.

My first one is to hold onto a memory - my time in undergrad, which was a great time in my life.

My second one doesn't have a particular meaning. I like the design and how it looks on my body, and that it brings me back to the experience of getting it. My only stipulation was that it be somewhat unique. It also means that I wouldn't want one when my life is in turmoil, as looking at it would bring me bad memories.

In fact, that's what I think most of mine will be. Cool designs that capture a moment in time.

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Medussa posted...

if reincarnation wipes the slate clean, what's actually the difference between it and oblivion?

That's a big "if". There are different schools of thought on that.

The difference is between a mind ceasing to exist and a mind being wiped of all memory and development. We can conceive of the latter because it actually happens to people (except the physical size stays the same, I guess), while the end of existence almost by definition is impossible to imagine.

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nuclearratchet posted...

I think for sure there's an afterlife. Being alive right now is evidence. You were born once so why not again?

That's not really evidence. That's a failure to conceptualize an alternative. Which isn't an insult, by the way (look at my other post in this topic).

Also, all you've really said is that the idea of an afterlife is not inconsistent. That doesn't mean it needs to be true.

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I have no idea.

Reincarnation is the only way that I can conceptualize what happens after death, so I tend to go with that if I need to think about it. But I'm not a spiritual or religious person to begin with.

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Generally I don't care one way or the other if a character's appearance is changed in an adaptation. That doesn't affect the quality.

Speaking as a straight white man, however, I have to think it'd be better in terms of representation to create new characters instead of just modifying existing ones.

Don't ask for a black Peter Parker, demand a Miles Morales.

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Lairen posted...

Just make white characters black! We did it!

So did you read the post that you replied to, or?

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Lairen posted...

If they made sheva white id be pissed as hell but oddly everyone would agree then.....

Yeah it's not like there's a systemic difference between the representation and treatment of black and white people.

Racism isn't symmetric, so why should the solution be?

(No, races of characters in video games isn't *the* solution to racism, but putting thought into it certainly can't hurt.)

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BenBeckman posted...

Another group of idiots already made Johnny Storm black while Sue remained white.

Sue was adopted, and neither the adoption nor their skin colour made a lick of difference to the movie. It was trash for unrelated reasons.

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daynlokki posted...

I mean they have a sacred timeline. That timeline includes the avengers coming back. Any further changes to the timeline would no longer make it that sacred timeline. Theres the deviants. They dont happen a ton but thats because they dont allow the first branch to form. If they did, it gets out of hand and then timelines try to destroy other timelines. The sacred timeline is just the one who won the last multiverse war.

I'm confident that most people understand the explanation given. The point is that its not satisfying narratively. It's the equivalent (literally, in the comics at least) of saying "things happened because the writers wanted them to happen".

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1 million dollars dollars?

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Moved to a new state recently, am going through a breakup, and feeling severe imposter syndrome in grad school.

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Stalolin posted...

Lol. I think there's a canyon-sized gap between not turning my brain off and saying that I'm a true intellectual, but okay.

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Lokison posted...

Yea, but people apperantly need the be spoonfed the information in such a way theres no questions. Probably the same people that question the parking garage fight in Fight Club where apperantly Edward Nortan drags himself across the ground about 15 feet. Just let it go and enjoy the ride homies.

This has nothing to do with being spoonfed information, but that was pretty handily refuted above.

"Let it go and enjoy the ride" isn't a defense at all, it's a plea. That's what people say when they like something but don't want to acknowledge that it has flaws, or when they know it has flaws but don't have a valid defense.

Sorry, but I don't have the ability to turn my brain off at will. Analyzing media is fun for me and sometimes it exposes shitty writing.

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008Zulu posted...

The TVA know if you stray off your destined path, meaning they know the future. Therefore, they knew Stark and Antman would screw up and that Loki would get his hands on the Tesseract, and then use it. If they were that serious about divergent timelines, they should have made it so Hulk didn't break down the door causing Stark to drop the case. But since they didn't, Loki was meant to get hold of it and escape.

Yeah this is another major problem, thanks for bringing it up. The Miss Minute recording mentions that you could be labelled a deviant if you're late for work one morning. So they should melt you, right? But maybe you're late because your alarm didn't go off. Maybe the alarm didn't go off because your spouse played a prank on you. So do they melt your spouse? Or your phone died because you forgot to plug it in. You forgot to plug it in because you were tired from work. So do they melt your boss for not creating a better work environment? And so on.

My point is, how do they decide when to stop tracing cause and effect?

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rexcrk posted...

Or you could wait and see how things end on this show.

God, what is it with nerds and all this doom n gloom shit?

Is the nerd comment supposed to be an insult?

Even if they pull a Rick and Morty and destroy the TVA by the end of the show - which doesn't make sense given the insane amount of power creep, but whatever - this doesn't change what I said about ruining the stakes of the previous movies. Unless they end with an "it was all a dream"-type twist, which is dumb for its own reasons.

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Doom_Art posted...

Why do I get the sense that you're looking for a reason to be angry TC

I'm more disappointed than angry.

I'll happily eat my words if they somehow "fix" this. Maybe Doctor Strange or the Ancient One apprehended Loki after he stole the tesseract and this is all actually a mental prison to get information out of him. That'd be fine. Otherwise I don't see how they can fix the existence of the TVA.

Their existence alone is ridiculous. They can nullify the power of the Infinity Stones*, so as Loki says, they're (or more accurately, the Timekeepers are) by far the greatest power in the universe that we've seen. They're all-knowing as they can see everything that has happened and will happen. So how can they ever be defeated?

Oh, apparently by fire.

Oh and some of them don't know what fish are, either, even though their sole purpose is to monitor the entire past and future.

What would happen if Thanos with some Infinity Stones deviated from the sacred timeline and the TVA sent agents to apprehend him? If deviant-Loki can stop them with fire and daggers then surely Thanos can just disintegrate them with the Power Stone.

Makes no sense.

*Yes, I know that in the comics the Stones are useless outside of their home universes. Yet the MCU has treated time travelling as universe-hopping up until now, so the time heist should've been a waste of time. Also, it's clear that the lore of the films is different enough that we shouldn't assume comic facts to patch up plot holes.

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BakonBitz posted...

I will admit, simply saying "What the Avengers did was supposed to happen" felt like a cop-out explanation initially, but it's probably something they didn't want to bother explaining in extremely verbose terms just to get the plot going.

So they wanted the concept of time cops to milk the Loki character but didn't want to do any actual writing to have it make sense.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

TC doesnt realize that this stuff is lifted from the comics.

That doesn't matter to me at all. If this happened in the comics then it was stupid there, too.

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soulunison2 posted...

P sure thats the point considering multiverses is literally the plot of the next phase

So the point is to make me stop caring about anything that happened before and to eliminate all dramatic stakes for the future? Mission accomplished, I guess.

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The MCU is now a deterministic hellscape where you can be melted if you make a "wrong" decision, where "wrong" is decided seemingly arbitrarily by three nebulous "beings".

Also, goodbye all of the drama of the entire rest of the MCU. Not only are the infinity stones apparently insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but everything was predetermined to go exactly as it did. Character decisions don't matter anymore, as if they make the "wrong" choice, they'll get melted.

Tony swallows his anger and doesn't attack Bucky at the end of Civil War? Melted.

Star-Lord pushes past his sorrow for the greater good and doesn't smack Thanos in the face on Titan? Melted.

What a catastrophic show.

Now let me note that I'm speaking purely from a worldbuilding perspective. The show aesthetically looks cool. The acting is fine, with some standout moments from Loki, e.g. watching the deaths of his parents and himself in the time theatre. It was neat to see Loki messing about in history as D.B. Cooper.

But that's all surface-level enjoyment. In terms of internal consistency, this is easily the worst MCU property yet.

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bsp77 posted...

Where do you live? I am in MN so winter can suck. I don't like running below 20 degrees. I also won't run above 75.

Some people like running in winter because that means 40s. Which is great.

I'm in Ontario and like running in early morning, so below 20 F isn't uncommon.

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TerraSeeker posted...

No, winter is too cold to run in. You can try putting on layers, but then you will just overheat and performance will suffer with no gain..

I like running in the winter. Dunno why but I like the feeling of cold winter air. But I hate sweating, so summer is a no-go.

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Completely agree. 90 degrees today and I hate it.

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*watched

No spoilers for later episodes, please.

One of the best episodes of television Ive ever watched. The characters are all getting new dimensions. The emotion was raw and felt genuine. The cinematography was incredible - Im not sure if the two timelines were actually shot in a single take each, but even if they werent, its damn impressive.

I normally cant stand horror because the characters do things that make no sense. Horror movies and shows tend to focus on the paranormal and neglect the characters. Hill House works because it does the opposite - the haunting is just a catalyst for the characters to grow.

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Definitely not, it was an improvement but not great.

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