Lurker > Dark Young Link

Here's my thought about you.

I don't think you have a town mentality. I think you just want to hide behind strong players, and use your limited skill(Note, this is in no way suggesting I"m a good player) as an excuse to not commit. The problem is I'm not certain if this is because of your playstyle, or because you are scum who wants the attention off of them.


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IfGodCouldDie posted...

You ain't calling anyone out

Called multiple people out, try reading.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're making attacks that have no actual bearing on the game in an attempt to look busy.

Oh? Do you have an actual opinion of me then?

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Sorry if you posted it earlier Aecioo, it's just that you genuinely don't stick out to me and that concerns me.

And yes, I want to try to understand the players better. That's how I do things.

And Scare, I honestly do not remember IGCD ever doing that. Perhaps he improved some years back, but I've always remembered him as someone who sticks to the shadows and doesn't want to stick his neck out.

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Fastbreak posted...

Low hanging fruit

Be useful or die yourself buddy

I have my strengths, day 1 isn't one of them. I'm at least still playing the fucking game, and calling people out.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I like playing.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I have no idea, and no it doesn't matter

"I have no idea whatsoever if Chris can be trusted, so I'll blindly trust his every move because I'm interested in figuring out this game and what side the players are on!"

This isn't merely "bad", this is outright being uninterested in playing the actual game. This isn't a chatroom where you can dick around. Even bad players have opinions. If you don't have an opinion, what does that make you?

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So play.

What are your town/scum reads and why?

Doesn't matter "How bad" you are.

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Looking through Topic 2 right quick.

IGCD #330

I've never done whatever shtick I am currently doing before.

This is a lie. At least, I think it's a lie. I've seen the "Follow Chris on whoever he votes" before. It's a lazy move, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by a lazy player. Unfortunately this puts us at an unhelpful "Bad or scum" scenario.

I am curious though. If he's going with a "I've accepted that I'm the worst player so I give up on trying so I'll just follow the best player" excuse... why did you sign up? I'm a pretty underwhelming player, no excuse for not trying. If I were dayvig, those would have been his final words.
(Well, if I wasn't asleep when he said that anyway. You know what I mean)

Aecioo thinks I'm scum, but I'm not convinced his vote on me wasn't just following what was the current lead. You think I'm scum? Cool. Why?

Want it on record that I don't trust Ben or dowolf for going "Yeah I agree Lea, Han is scum"... and then not voting. Especially since Ben casually voted Red up.

pjbasis posted...

That said if Chris is town and that's a real thing I question his choice to use it.

It kind of stagnates the day and locks us into the lynch.

This isn't town mentality. You should not be voting Red "Because Chris used a power". How strongly do you believe Chris is town? How strongly do you believe Red is scum? These are the things you need to be worried about, now whatever power Chris may or may not have.

At this point, Red or Chris is scum. Their interaction is all wrong from a town/town perspective.


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Unofficial Votals at 1 in the morning! (Last vote #264)

[3] red - Chris, IGCD, Han
[2] DYL - (Chris), (IGCD), Aecioo, Scare
[2] Han - Lea, (DYL), Stan
[1] ben - (puns), Crescent, (DYL)
[1] dowolf - plum
[1] plum - (red), Hb
[1] Hb - dowolf
[1] IGCD - red
[0] pjbasis - (Lea), (red)
[0] Scare - (puns), (Johnbobb), (Lea), (DYL), (ben)
[0] Stan - (Han)
[0] Chris - (Scare)
[0] puns - (Hb)
[0] banananor - (Johnbobb)

Plum tried to vote for Red, but Plum didn't unvote dowolf if I'm not mistaken!

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red13n posted...

Honestly, you haven't posted anything serious enough for me to feel the need to engage with to this point.

Chris not being serious enough at this point isn't a concern?

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I brought up a few people who haven't posted yet/much early on, yes. It wasn't a "These people need to be voted" post thought. It was a "Keep an eye on these people and hopefully they'll contribute later" post. Premature perhaps, but I didn't have any interest in lynching any of them at the time.

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But also more to the point.

If you think what I did was bad

You absolutely shouldn't be okay with people doing a lesser variant of it.

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ScareChan posted...

you literally WATCHED A 38 MINUTE VIDEO AND COMMENTED ON IT INSTEAD OF PLAYING THE GAME

are you SERIOUS

Less than 24 hours until day ends, vs less than 2 hours into the game.


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People way too focused on an autocorrect error that has nothing to do with the game.

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I like Plum and Han a bit more. Both of their reasons to vote Red look reasonable.

Ben and dowolf a bit less. Where are their votes?

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Actually the first thing I have seen is Red's reaction to my vote on him and his non-reaction to my vote on you don't gel with me.

People didn't have a reaction to your vote on me, because it was a 100% worthless vote, made by a 100% irrelevant player, because you literally have done nothing all game.

Then you come in, make one pointless post, only to wordlesssly follow Chris on another person while people are actually talking.

If anything, more people should have reacted to you.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I have none.

Day ends in less than 24 hours and you have "no thoughts" on the game?

Whoever dayvigs this man will have my vote for the day.

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What's the argument for Red lynch?

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Several people said they agreed with Lea that Han looks scummy, yet only one person voted Han with me. Consider me disappointed.
(Granted I'm also wondering why Lea herself didn't lead by example regarding that)

We have less than 24 hours and IGCD is still insisting on doing nothing but be a second vote for Chris. I'd like to know his actual thoughts, it's not acceptable for a player to have contributed as little as him.

IGCD, what are your current town and scum reads and why? Why do you think arbitrarily following Chris is a good idea?

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He means Tang the orange flavored drink.

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Talk is cheap

##Unvote
##Vote: Han

If you think someone's sus, go after them. Don't just talk about it.

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Leanansidhe posted...

Can we put a moratorium about talking about that video this discussion is making my eyes bleed from sheer disgust. At this point I feel like people are bring it up just to shit on a shit post from six months ago, which is highly redundant

At this point it's honestly fluffposting, which only serves scum. No reason for a town player to still be on about it.

I do like your post on Han. While I liked Han's vote on Stan for bringing the latter into the spotlight... Han really should have stronger reads on people at this point.


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MysteriousStan posted...

Sure. Death is my boy and probably town. This whole thing with you and the video feels pretty silly to me. Like I could pretty easily make the argument for you actually watching the video as either alignment. Once more information comes out it will be interesting to go back and see how that all went down.

Crescent is interesting to me as I know my playstyle and it definitely leans toward punting Day 1. So for her to say that in relation to me specifically, even if she says it wasn't meant that way, strikes me as a bit odd. Just something I wanted to note for later.

I'll have to reread the stuff with Ben/Crescent to get a better feel for that interaction as I kind of just caught up real quick on my lunch break.

But I mostly like playing in the moment so where's your head at so far?

The video really has no relation to my alignment, and anyone trying to suggest otherwise is not to be trusted. Anyway, you're saying Death is a gut read to you?

As for my head, I'm somewhat annoyed that people seem to just assuming Scare is legit without going into detail. Scare himself acted anti-town for a simple "Please explain your read" post. My question wasn't unreasonable.

For you I personally looking forward to seeing more of your thoughts. You weren't really posting about anything early on(Which describes a lot of people to be fair) so it would really help me get a better read on you.


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Oh hi Stan!

Any thoughts or comments regarding the game thus far?

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htaeD posted...

I cant get a bead on you because I dont remember you having this much.. well.. aggression.

What?
Aggressive is literally my playstyle.


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So Death, are you saying that you view Scare as town?

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Well you had your vote on me prior.

But if the video is the sole reason you believe I am scum, then either you are still in the "Jokey Chris" phase of the game....

Or you're just not interested in actually figuring me out.

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Why do you feel I'm scum Chris?

I also don't see how Relaxed = Town unless you're attributing that to Town!Scare rather than town in general.

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Man, what a great AR season for me.

Rank 25
Only lost -20 lift.(Out of 8 defense matches, I won 5 of them. and all but one of the loses the other side lost one unit)

I wish it was always this smooth. Man I love Ursula bonus week.
Just in time too because new mage counters her rip

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I forget which mafia game it was, but there was a game where Scare did nothing but dick around regarding me. Contributed nothing. He lasted a stupidly long time because the pressure was always on other people. He was scum. I'm getting those same vibes.

Chris, you say Scare is fine. Could you explain your read there?

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So Scare comes in and makes a joke vote on Chris, admitting he hasn't even read the topic. A pretty reckless joke if you haven't confirmed shenanigans have not occurred(Granted the chances of that happening so early on is low).

Red nudges Scare to do something. Scare gives a list of one scum, four town, while saying they want to lynch Chris.

Looking things over, he does explain his death read.

Fastbreak posted... If you are trying to ask why I know you're scum, you kissed up in a particular way to dowolf that is in the vein you do when you're scum budding

But he doesn't do anything with this. He just stays on Chris for... a joke?

I ask Scare for his reasoning behind his list(He hasn't explained any of the other reads at this point), while briefly addressing a post Death made. I also comment on Boko, pj, Tange, Aecioo, hb, and plum. Nothing substantial on any of them.

Scare's response....

Fastbreak posted... Oh the scum wall is here, and he even defended death in it

Fun

...Is this how a town player responds to my simple request? I don't think so.

And he didn't mention me in his town/scum list, so why is he suddenly so adamant against me now?


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That question was for anyone who has more knowledge about Chris to answer. I personally think both of you being scum is rather unlikely, because I feel like a scum Chris wouldn't stick their neck out on a scummate that only has 2 votes on him. If anyone disagrees with that viewpoint, I'd love to hear from them.


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Fastbreak posted...

I'm sorry did dyl come to the conclusion that Chris and I must be scum together

I haven't made that conclusion about Chris.

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Plum, if you had to guess if I were town or scum right now, which would you pick? Doesn't matter if it's gut, or a weak feeling. I'm also not the biggest fan of day 1s, but I have a different stance regarding day 1 reads...

Scare finally gives his reads after a Chris nudge. Perhaps I lack the raw charisma required to force an answer out of him... I'm not sure what to make of Chris/Scare. My gut is saying that something is off, but that's my day 1 gut which doesn't have the best track record.

How likely is a scum Chris to step in and try to guide scum Scare out in the open like this? Scare wasn't really in any danger though with just two votes on him, Lea and my own.

Chris says that Scare is being a sheep rather than scum, though I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of both. Aka, making a obviously lighthearted vote on Chris(Who wouldn't feel the need to rip him to shreds), and obeying him the moment Chris begins to get serious.

"Why would Scare act the way he's acting if he's Town?" That's a question I don't have an answer to right now, his actions make more sense as scum right now.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Dark Young Chris

Lord save us all.

Oh if I was as good as Chris but still had my lack of impulse control... Horrifying.

dowolf posted...

What does that even mean?

It means I used every character, every part of the post(animal). I often had to break my posts up.

So scare going "omg wall" falls flat. He's played games with me before, he knows what a DYL wall is actually like.

But that's not as important as the other shit he's done or hasn't done.

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##Vote: Scare

So Scare is scum.

Has a list with no explanation.
Useless vote that is accomplishing absolutely nothing.
Making up falsehoods about me instead of actually addressing what I said.

Better luck next year Scare.

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No Scare, enough of your bullshit.

I want you to explain your list.

I want you to point out how I "defended" Death in any way.


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(Also holy shit you think that's a fucking wall? Have you forgotten what DYL walls were like? I was like the Native American of using character limits in my posts back then.)

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Fastbreak posted...

he even defended death

In what way?

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Alright...

Fastbreak posted...

Scum: death

Townie: lea, johnbobb, battle, red

Lynching: Chris

Scare, could you explain... all of this? Why do you have these respective people as your reads, and why are you trying to policy lynch Chris despite Death being your sole scum read?

htaeD posted...

I feel like scum would be more likely to watch that video than town, since it would give them an excuse to not be focused on playing the game for 38 minutes.

It was less than ten minutes until 11:00 pm. If I wanted an excuse to not play the game, I could have just not posted and said I fell asleep. Easier than watching a video and making a very brief summary about it.

Boko making a post similar to what pj posted, coming in and worrying about being several topics behind. Not a fan of it. Compare that to Tange who at least makes an actual comment about the actual game.

Not sure what to make of Aecioo's vote on me. It seems... late? Like he could have voted me a lot earlier if he thought I was scum, but choose now? But no one else voted on me so it doesn't quite feel like a sheep vote.

Not feeling hb's vote on Plum. Feels rather kneejerky, and not focused on going after scum. Did Plum's post of "DYL is an easy mislynch" really make him more scummy in your eyes than me?


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That's a healthy caution in all fairness.

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...Okay what the hell happened to that quote?

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<a onclick="return show_quoted_message(8, 79112482, 947221369, 'a8fb064b');" href="/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79112482/947221369">Hbthebattle posted... </a>

Who was saying anything relevant in the first 2.5 pages?

My current town lean.

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Hbthebattle posted...

It has not been that long in-game. We shouldn't be grilling people for inactivity outside of the opening couple pages or so just yet.

It's not about inactivity, it's about saying nothing relevant. But yes, it is late at night so I'm not going in on anyone so early.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

That vote being Han's only post of the game within a given reason doesn't inspire confidence.

I'm not saying Han is obv town or anything. I just like him bringing attention to someone who has essentially just fluffposted.

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If I'm not mistaken...

Tang
Scare
Zidane

Are the last three that haven't checked in the game yet.

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Also looking it over, dowolf hasn't really said anything relevant either thus far.

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That's exactly why I approved of Han's vote. I looked over Stan to try to find out why he would "random" vote for him.... and Stan has effectively said nothing.

Good person to keep an eye on.

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I like Han's vote here.

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red13n posted...

So what are your own thoughts on everyone's reactions, DYL?

Admittedly, nothing strong.

Don't have a problem with your first reaction. Like how you're generating conversation right now instead of just continuing to complain.
Chris is continuing whatever he's up to on page 1.
Aecioo just made a joking comment, as did puns. Aecioo's second response seems to be suggesting I'm trying to buddy up to puns? I feel like if he was reaching that conclusion, he should have voted me? Assuming I'm reading him correctly of course.
No problem with Lea's response.

Initially I didn't like Crescent's focus on my comment. She talks about how the video is a "focus", but I made one post about it. She makes 4. However, her later posts makes me feel better about her as she seems focused on the content of multiple players and not just piling on.

Ben on the other hand just seems like a "Me too". Three people had said "I don't like that post", being the fourth one doesn't really add to the conversation at that point.


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Actually know what? Crescent is my current town lean so

##Vote: Ben

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