Lurker > Dark Young Link

Consider my vote on dowolf btw.

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Puns = Dowof on people I want to lynch now btw.

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Day vig can be Town MVP and shoot one of the two so we can get rid of both.

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Oh right, I was going over stuff.

banananor

Not much said in topic 1. Brief discussions, nothing that looks unnatural.
Same with topic 2. Though he brings up.. IRL masons?(#110)
Topic 3 he says he doesn't like the votes that went from Scare to red. He made a post Crescent liked, and upon looking at it now.... yeah, I like it too.
Post #362 Didn't like Han at first but softened up due to his later posts. Calls out Aecioo, Tange, Ben, and IGCD for their votes and lack of good content. Though he says he wouldn't mind lynching Scare either.

Topic 4 he decides to vote for Tange, not liking red's lynch or my own. The day had over an hour and a half left so this was enough time for a proposed counter train. Gives his reasoning in #65



This man is town.

puns> Pj >dowolf > Bob >

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That sounds more like an evolving role than "Jack".

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Oh cool, Millionaire made it pretty far.

Best Mafia Roles

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Also HB probably shouldn't use his power on me since quite frankly I'm more of a supportive player than a "Lead the charge" type. I doubt I'd have much to offer.

Current thoughts is that I don't like how "relaxed" this day is. Either town or scum who has no out. Not that puns has given me a reason to think the latter.

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I'm not moved by pun's claim tbh.

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Taking a look at the Double Special Hero banner right quick...

Red: Duo Byleth and Young Caeda

Both of these units are pretty bonkers. Fodder is solid as well. I'm a bit tempted to pull on red, even though I don't need either of these in paticular.

Blue: Trio Palla and Summer Ingrid

Palla is pretty amazing in Flier Emblem teams, but even without that being able to move 3 spaces on odd turns with her Duo Skill is pretty great. Ingrid is tied for fastest unit in the game(Actually, so are both reds). Guard Bearing can work with certain builds I believe? Both blues have an impact skill, so if you're looking for one of those and aren't too picky which one....

Green: Summer Selena and Summer Sylvain

Selena seems pretty strong, though I don't hear much about her. -6 Spd and Res on foes within 2 spaces is pretty wicked. Atk/Spd Push 4 is nice. Has a very rare Snag skill(If movement assist used by unit or if unit is targeted by one, -6 Spd/Res on nearest foe within 4 spaces of both unit and target)

Sylvain is the demote and thus has a 4* variant to him as well. Rouse Atk/Def 3 is nice. Melon Float is probably a meme, but has its uses.

Colorless: Summer Dorothea and Bridal Fjorm

Dorothea winks at you when she dances.

(Also Atk Cantrip and Hone Atk 4)

Bridal Fjorm.... I don't know if she's relevant with Milla having a harder to dodge isolation. Or as relevant rather.

I probably won't drop orbs on this but for me....

Red > Colorless > Blue = Green

Maybe a slight lean on green because I wouldn't mind Sylvain merges, but no one here is a priority.


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If you're a jester, sure.

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dowolf

Mostly does nothing topic 1. Votes HB for voting plum.
Topic 2, continues posting mostly fluff. Says he can "get behind" voting Han, but never places his vote on him.
Throws shade on red at #222, suggesting it was unusual for red to be upset when IGCD sheeped a vote on him, as opposed to me early on(At the joke vote portion of the game). Though he calls red close minded town later on.

Topic 3. Doesn't like when I said Red or Chris were scum(Well, that read was obviously wrong). Says they're considering voting me, but doesn't until I vote them up first.

Topic 4, dowolf again posts fluff way too casually.

Like, I feel like dowolf will mostly make unrelated comments while only sometimes talking about the actual game. Maybe it's his playstyle, but I don't feel like he's really trying to find scum.

Pj >dowolf > Bob > puns(?)

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turbopuns3

Nothing really stands out in topic 1, though Crescent did ask him why his vote was still on Ben if he wasn't feeling her argument about him. Doesn't give much of an answer.

Topic 2 he talks a bit more(#145). Says he has a good feeling about Scare, town read on hb, doesn't outright call me a town read but agrees with Han that I'd be a bad lynch. Finds himself agreeing with plum, and a comment about Chris and Ben. So at least some talk of his town reads there.

No posts on topic 3. Topic 4(#30) he has the following he doesn't want lynched.

Crescent
Tange
hb
IGCD
bob
Lea
Boko
Plum

Though I'm not sold on Boko's reasoning.

Doesn't want Aecioo/banana/pj lynched due to their lack of activity day 1

The users he seems more interesting in lynching are

dowolf
Han
Stan

Though for me and Ben he has a "These guys are probably town but lynching them wouldn't be too bad due to the attention they've gotten". Hrm.

Eventually votes dowolf. Day eventually ends.

I'm not too sure what to make of puns

Pj > Bob > puns(?)


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pjbasis

Starts off with an odd "I thought this game started on Friday" post. Not much else for activity in topic 1.

Topic 2... really don't like how pj has no real answer to "Why shouldn't we lynch you?" and only tries to address the lurking. Makes a post about red that tells us nothing.(T2, #182) But then later at #209 says he was throwing shade at red. Nothing really said in topic 3, nothing said in topic 4 in day 1.

Day 2 apologizes for missing deadline(Someone else judge him for this, for I lack the right this game.) then brings up puns for... whatever reason?

Pj just seems to comment to avoid being modpoked. They don't seem to be contributing to anything at all. Even for all his "shade" thrown at red, no vote on him or anyone iirc.

Pj > Bob

In terms of who I want to lynch.

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johnbobb

Topic 1 he's pretty fluffy all the way through. Like even towards the end. Though Ben believes bob to be town based on a reaction to a certain question. Scare also thinks he's town due to how relaxed he is.

Doesn't say much better in Topic 2. Or anything in 3, though allegedly that's due to work running late(Which yeah, obviously that's a thing. Not saying "Skip work, play mafia" or anything).

Looking through topic 4, puns thinks bob would be a "dumb lynch choice". That's three players backing up bob. I'm not sure if puns explained himself regarding bob though.

Still a bit sus on his attempted vote on me because I totally would have attempted the Chris special if I thought he and a weak player he's defending are both scum. But I have an obvious bias. The immediate unvote makes him look better, scum could have just left a vote on me and poofed.

I feel like bob hasn't done anything all game, but so many people have a town read on him(Chris also said he read town)?

Ben
Scare
pj
Chris(According to his "will")


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Connection's being a bit of a jerk right now, fun times.

Death brings up a potential Town Jack(Well I suppose Han technically did first). Was Aeicoo of all players really the type of person a town aligned player would kill? In terms of quiet players, there would have been better targets. In terms of scummy players... *stares in the mirror*

Well let's just say that if there is a jack, I don't think that's the person who gets targeted. My guess is Maf double kill + NK. But focusing too much on that isn't helpful at all. There's just.... something on my mind that's bugging me.

Still looking over things, but honestly out of my suspicions I kind of want to lynch pj or wolf.


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"Best" has a flexible definition. Depends on what you're looking for exactly.

I'm not much of a dragon expert but out of the ones you've listed...

Duo Tiki is certainly fantastic.
Male Grima has fallen off a bit but can still work with the right investment. I see some people recommend him with a Stance Skill, Special Fighter, and Glimmer.

Halloween Female Grima is probably fine.

Don't really hear much about Nagi.

Naga is basically just a score bot for Astra.

Ninian, as a dancer, will always be relevant. Sudden Panic and Infantry Pulse are skills to consider with her high hp.

OG Myrrh has a fantastic refine. Halloween Myrrh is probably still useable, but has fallen off.

Duma can work from what I've seen, but most people just have him as a lift loss reducer.

To name a few you didn't mention right quick.

The Fallen Corrins are on the stronger side. As is Legendary F!Corrin.

Ena looks like a good budget red(Once she's in the grail shop)

Fae recently got a refine that makes her a nice support.
Winter Sothis is still strong, just no longer pants on head stupid strong(That would be the Edelgards now.)


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Oh, also Null Follow up in some sort of build I guess.

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These bonus fruit have really been great. I already have two of my four major projects with their IVs now.

Need to figure out what I want to do with Linus. He's still rocking old skills, and I want to figure out exactly what to give him. Fury 4 gives way more bulk for -1 Atk/Spd, but he kind of needs that for Galeforce build. Atk/Spd solo 4 would be nice... but I'd need to find a B slot because he typically haves Wings of Mercy to port to where Eliwood is.

(Granted with Impact refine and lull, Eliwood has trouble taking a lot of damage in melee anyway >_>)

Heavy Blade 4 would open up his seal slot, I just have to consider Atk powercreep and viable it is on a base 37 atk unit(+10 Makes that 41. Fruit gives him 2 more attack, flowers puts him up to 46).

Can give him Atk/Spd or Atk/Def lull if I don't go all in on speed with speed DR. His brother is a bit faster so I'm leaning towards the attack stat.

Odd Tempest would be amazing, but would require summoning and saccing a L!Dimitri when I'd like at least one copy to use. I'm sure the even variant will come out.

Otherwise Joint Drive Atk/Spd.

Meanwhile my Winter Jaffar is just chilling with a mostly 100% done build. Maybe find a spare Pulse Smoke. But he has three viable IV choices.


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banananor posted...

(pet peeve is when people dont read wills)

You play Town of Salem too eh?

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I'm glancing through posts dowolf so I'm not reading literally every single post. I appreciate you explaining yourself though.

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Alright, let's look at some of the splinter votes as well. Scum knew this was town/town.

Starting in this topic...

[6] red - Chris, (IGCD), Han, plum, Scare, ben, Tange
[5] DYL - (Chris), (IGCD), Aecioo, (Scare), IGCD, Stan, dowolf, Hb

These were the votes with 38 minutes to go.

banananor votes for Tange(#19) This was his first vote all game and it's on someone who hasn't been voted all game. Says it's a better vote than the frontrunners(It may well be!), goes into more detail in post #65.

vote history, timing of posts, content of posts, i don't like either leading votal, limited time remaining i realized i should put my money where my mouth is

i wish i had better analysis at the moment, i think especially it was him sheeping extra extra hard last topic

#104 puns votes for dowolf

"dowolf, this hurts me more than it hurts you buddy"

I'm.... does anyone else feel like that's a forced line here? Unnatural even? What has dowolf done that would make anyone reluctant to vote him up?

[2] dowolf - (plum), DYL, puns
[1] Tange - banananor

I wasn't around, so on active lynches that leaves puns and banana.

Bob was on no one at the end of day 1.
Boko wasn't on anyone at the end of day 1, but it's reasonable to believe he didn't have time to vote anyone else.
(Stan kind of on a "splinter" with my lynch dying but eh...)
pj voted no one all game.

Bob
Pj
Puns
dowolf
Banana
Scare

These are the people I don't like very much atm.


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I can feel it in my bones. At least one scum fell for the "DYL is an easy mislynch" trap.

[2] DYL - (Chris), (IGCD), Aecioo, (Scare), (IGCD), Stan, (dowolf), (Hb), (johnbobb)

Gonna try to not be too biased here. There was legitimate reason to suspect me day 1.

Chris and IGCD have already been discussed twice.

Aecioo is confirmed town. I just wish he hinted at who he used his power on, if anyone, because dude really didn't show up much.

Scare's vote on me is on T1 #427 Not too sure where he was going with that, especially since I wasn't on his "scum" list. Just Death was. Whom he never voted for.

IGCD first non sheep vote iirc is on me.

lol

Moving on post #127(T3) Stan votes for me after I didn't put my vote back on Han. Admittedly I forgot that I felt better about Han and was going off my older reads. I blame my sleep deprived brain but let's be honest, I'm scattered brained at any time of the day.

Trying to figure out if Stan was looking for consistency out of me, or was looking for a convenient excuse to vote me.

dowolf OMGUS votes me after I vote him up for again going "Oh, I agree this person is scum!"... and then not voting that person. If dowolf is town and he thought I was scum.... why did he not vote me until I voted him?

#270 hb votes me after I vanished(Because I'm a dummy and forgot what the end of day time actually was...)

But I have to ask.... am I really the type of person to go away when votes are PILING on me?

and bob hops on me rather late because apparently "Scum" Chris is going to make a power move to save "Scum" DYL. Red called this out as bad logic.

Though he at least quickly unvotes when he admits he hasn't read up.... that doesn't make me feel comfortable either.

If red was scum, I say hang bob here and now. But red was town, and I'm town.

So I guess what I'm asking town who logic better than me, which of the lynch leader votes feels.. off to you? Some of these weren't town mentality.

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Looking at things, IF hb is scum then Death is 99% scum for his red vote near the end.

[5] Hb - (dowolf), dowolf, (Chris), IGCD, Lea, (Crescent), Ben, (Boko), Tange

First vote dowolf at #377(T1). No explanation given.

Hbthebattle posted... That was partially a joke, but anyone coming in after doing effectively nothing with a no-explanation vote is suspicious.

lol

dowolf then later unvotes and countervotes me for me voting him, more on that later.

dowolf votes hb again in topic 4(#98). Again, no real explanation. "Why did I ever get off you?" Why did you even get on dowolf?

Chris is town. Votes at #118, having apparently set some trap.
IGCD sheeps.
Lea... sheeps on hb too?
Crescent is town. Talks about how she's disliked hb more and more the last hour.

It's at this point hb claims Interviewer

Ben follows onto hb.
Boko votes for hb making an awful vote in his eyes. Unvotes when they see the claim.
Tange wordlessly votes hb.

Honestly not feeling anyone who stayed on this lynch. I want to hear from dowolf why he voted for hb at all, above all.


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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Fuck HB, and Fuck DYL. Thats why. (No offense to either of them. I'm sure they are "very fine people."

Taking this a bit personally aren't you?

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Don't see how your voice is strong Scare, but I approve of you lending your strength to 100% confirmed town Han.

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Looking at Red votes (Also the list I posted early was wrong for some reason....)

[6] red - (Chris), (IGCD), Han, plum, Scare, (ben), (Tange), (Lea), (IGCD), Hb, Death, Chris

Chris was the first vote, whom we know is town.
IGCD sheeped, which tells us nothing. Jumped on me for a bit before going back on red(Though unvotes again). Ends on HB.
Han is confirmed town.
Plum's vote on Red seemed logical enough.(#140, topic 2)(Official vote #308 because he forgot to unvote previously)

Scare's vote (#350)doesn't sit too well with me. Earlier he was like "Help me save you Red". Admittedly red didn't really do himself any favors, but this seems like Scare was waiting to see how the train would go before jumping on.

Ben's vote(#358) seems purely based on Chris voting Red. Sheepy.

Tange's vote(#397) is much the same, voting after Chris used his "Kobe" ability(Was that real..?)

Lea unvotes Aceioo and votes red early in topic 4. Eventually unvotes

Hb is the one of the last red vote, and he votes because red didn't give his full role.

Death votes red last minute in topic 4(#152)

Scare, Ben, and Tange are the votes I don't really like on this one. Not too sure what to make of Death's either.

(Breaking these up because I don't want the power to randomly go out again >_>)

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[6] red - (Chris), (IGCD), Han, plum, Scare, ben, Tange, (Lea), (IGCD), Hb
[5] Hb - (dowolf), dowolf, Chris, IGCD, Lea, Crescent
[2] DYL - (Chris), (IGCD), Aecioo, (Scare), (IGCD), Stan, (dowolf), (Hb), (johnbobb)

Final votes for what were the main lynch trains day 1. I think we can find some juicy info in here.

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Actually

Johnbobb posted...

##Vote: dyl

this just screams scum Chris power move

So John thinks Chris discouraging people from hoping on me last second is a "scum Chris power move"

...So he goes after me instead of Chris? Well granted Chris was absolutely not getting a special, but come on.

Scum me vs Scum Chris

You really gonna go for me?

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turbopuns3 posted...

I don't love the red or DYL lynches and so

##Vote: dowolf

dowolf, this hurts me more than it hurts you buddy

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

DYL, before you commit to that train of thought:

you and I are the only confirmed Town talking right now. So pls listen

If you are the easy mislynch, what was Red?

There was a Town/Town lynch (Chris did good with his gamble here), so Scum didn't have to stick out at all. That's what we're looking for. People sheeping Chris to hop off Red aren't in the clear, but people being adamant in sticking Red look marginally better.

That's a fair point. People who were relaxed are probably our best bets then?

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I had a role that talked at night(But I couldn't talk to anyone else in particular). I was scum that game.

That said I think using it on Chris is a pro-town move, since it allowed him to get slightly more mileage than his usual "dies night 1". So I'm not interested in going after hb.

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Johnbobb posted...

so I don't believe that Chris lost his power, so I have to assume he died because he targeted someone that was town? so does that mean dyl is town or do we think Chris lied about who he targeted?

So bob is scum.

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I'd like to apologize for not being around during deadline. I thought day ended at 10 pm EST. That's entirely my bad.

I'm pretty sure scum tried to get the "easy mislynch" off me so, I'll look back at the votes and see who wasn't voting in a town like manner.

(Would have more posted but power went out for a moment so Zzzzzzzzzz everything I had typed up)

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Catdog, for some reason.

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Batman: The Animated Series (This only got 3rd seed?)

Animaniacs

Tom And Jerry

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Record your niece's crying, amplify it, put it on repeat, and play it next to their door in the middle of the night.

You didn't specify good ideas, thankfully.

Jokes aside I'd focus on calming said niece down and letting her know everything's okay.

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Shit that's horrifying. I hope your mom will be okay.

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Also Scare, take me out to dinner first. I'm not that type of guy.

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MysteriousStan posted...

Well then I suppose you'll have no objections.

##Unvote
##Vote: DYL

No immediate revote of Han after pointing out your vote wasn't on him isn't good either. Especially after calling out others for voicing their approval of Lea's reasoning without a vote.

No objections. Looks like a solid vote. It's incorrect because the reason I unvoted in the first place was to get a re-read on Han. But your response seems towny.

dowolf posted...

I'm considering it. Especially because, despite the certainty there, DYL goes on to vote for, uh, not either of them.

Stop considering and start doing wolf. For example

##Vote:dowolf

That's twice you've said "You have a good point! This person looks like scum" and failed to follow up.


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IfGodCouldDie posted...

So what else do you want?

Ideally logic based reasoning behind why you feel someone is town/scum. It doesn't have to be strong, but one should typically have at least a few people who "Might be town/scum because..." Going by pure statistics doesn't encourage confidence because "statistically speaking", we're all town.* But obviously that isn't true.

*I am terrible at statistics.

MysteriousStan posted...

Losing track of your vote is one thing. People vote forgetting to unvote all the time. Forgetting that Han made you feel good enough to unvote him but still believing your vote is on him later on strikes me as strange.

A fair point. I'm not totally sure how I forgot that to be fair. It was late at night admittedly...

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I'm looking through Red's post, nothing is standing out. He and I had a bit of conversation, but plum brings up a good point in Topic 2 #140 where he points out that red show up to talk about the video again, instead of literally anything else that was going on in the topic. Though red says he had already been around, I don't believe he addressed why he went back to such a pointless subject.

Red says pj can "probably safely" be killed, with weak shade as his explanation. He doesn't vote pj up though? Why not? Looking at Crescent and Red talk... Red seems rather uncertain. Votes up IGCD for his sheepvote.

He complains that Chris has "Posted nothing serious enough to feel the need to engage"... But he engaged me over a video.

I'm sorry Red, but I don't see that town fire in you.

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MysteriousStan posted...

Really, DYL? Cause you're vote isn't on him.

Are you having trouble keeping your thoughts straight?

Oh, so it isn't. My bad.


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Red, I don't have a vote on you. I'm not sure what to make of you because frankly I'm wary of Chris right now. You, Chris, Scare. I think at least one of those is scum. Problem is that's purely a day 1 gut feeling which I don't exactly feel strongly about.

If you need to wash up an stuff go ahead.

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masterplum posted...

...

That placated you?

No, but it's more than I expected from IGCD. Continued arguing with him isn't productive.

MysteriousStan posted...

So you're agreeing with Lea that Han is scum right?

Yes. That's why I voted Han, instead of sitting on my hands doing nothing like certain other people.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Share your thoughts on the reasoning. You want me engaged im going to engage you so hard, you'll wish I didn't engage you so hard.

My thoughts are "I'm always right about him" is weak reasoning. I'll file it down under "Gut feeling". Nothing substantial, but feelings can still be accurate.

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Well the problem red is... you haven't felt all that engaged to me. I'm used to seeing that strength from you red, but I'm not seeing it. You're kind of just.. there at the moment? More so than certain other users, but right now you're just... eh? If that makes any sense?


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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I will share the fact that I do believe Ben is scum

Cool. Thank you. That's at least something, regardless of my thoughts on the reasoning.


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If you're town red, maybe do something to show us you're town? Right now I can't say I'd be too upset if you were lynched. Despite me being on Han.

And IGCD... that question isn't relevant to the actual game. I've dropped it. Do whatever. You'll be found out soon enough.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

You didn't even answer my question though.

What question?

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Leanansidhe posted...

He was unwilling to engage with me. All the deeply concerned senators are unwilling to engage with him. So the nefarious ne'erdowell can skulk away, because what people ARE engaged with is Kobe, videos and lecturing IGCD which has never ever led anywhere helpful.

Yep, and that's how scum wins.

People don't want to commit to an actual lead but "omg Chris power!" has them following like sheep.

...But yes, I can see my argument with IGCD isn't going to accomplish anything so I'll drop it.

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