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rideshort posted...

Must not familiar with the electoral finalization, transitional process and inauguration

Tbh I'm not familiar with it, but I don't see why there has to be a transition. I assume the person taking over has been paying attention to what the president has been, or more so has not, been doing
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I might be a piece of shit, but I regret not joining the military just because of the benefits. However I don't really have a lot of passion for the country I live in, so maybe I wouldn't be a good candidate for it.

When you're in your late 20s or early 30s, the military is pointless because you literally have to get rid of your whole life in order to join. You have to sell all of your belongings, get rid of your pets, and your apartment lease, quit your job, etc.
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That's racist to prefer a certain race over others
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MangoFan462 posted...

I thought Biden won? Why is Trump still dhere?

Exactly
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Ruvan22 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Thanks my man

So were you looking for advice in this thread? Or validation of your actions? (Not trying to be hostile genuinely curious)

I wanted to know what others felt about it. I was expecting 50/50, was cut off guard by the 99/1
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I get that the Constitution is based on fundamentals that we want to keep in order for the country to continue being the way it was meant to be from our founding fathers

With that said, today is far different from 1787, I think some things should be rewritten and done differently
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ModLogic posted...

dont listen to them tc.

keep it real yo.

Thanks my man
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Because the constitution dictates when the president will be sworn in

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So it's one of those "it's just the way it is" situations

Also, not sure what the fake sig divider is about
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This is a dumbass question right? It's normal for a president to continue the rest of their term even if they lost.

But why is the US set up in that way? It's different if you're leaving the office voluntarily, but if you lose, you should immediately pack your bags and leave.

Seems like there's no motivation for a president to try anymore if they lost the election. Seems like the optimal time for the loser president to give the ultimate "fuck you" to the country that did not reelect you. I'm not saying the president should do that, but I'm just curious if some presidents have thought that in the past. And why would the US have a system like that.
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Thank you for not mentioning outrun. It has decent scaling effects, but otherwise it's just another pole position.
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PoundGarden posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Historically it has not gotten me far. But imagine if the opposite happened. Imagine if I were nice to that customer, or I decided to please my boss by doing all of the things that were not my job. I would probably live a very unfulfilling and miserable life as a doormat. I would rather make a little bit less money and have dignity, then make more money and be a pushover.

Always gonna be assholes at work, part of being an adult.

Cold beans and no credit (banks dont lend to people who cant hold a job) get old eventually, and women worth having dont fox with a guy that cant hold a job and throws a tantrum anytime he's asked to do something he doesn't like.

But hey, at least you have your pride and told off someone who almost immediately forgot you exist. Only a fool allows other people to dictate their quality of life, and that's what you're doing over adolescent chest thumping. Nobody is impressed, I promise you that.

There's nothing I can do an asshole existing

But I can prevent one from walking all over me.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Bro if youre happier working worse jobs for less money just to avoid shithead customers then more power to ya honestly

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but what you said actually is true. we live in a world where more money always means better job, and that is something that absolutely needs to change. Because that is absolutely false.
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No San Francisco. Nearly perfect city, except for the cost of living. You pretty much can only live there if you're grandfathered into rent control
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Ruvan22 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

To answer your question, no it did not actually get me what I wanted. I wanted my boss to just stop assigning me to work that was not mine. But instead she tried to find unrelated reasons to fire me just because her feelings were hurt. But you are right, I didn't want to get fired. I just wanted time to do my own work.

I didn't mention this before, but the highest ranked job I ever had, I had a VP call me an idiot in an email that he accidentally CC'd me in. I actually made a topic on CE about it, because I was pissed and I wanted to report it to HR. CE and not the VP because the VP is more valued in the company.

Well I'm sorry that were fired and had the unfortunate experience of being CCed in that email. The latter especially sounds like a situation not of your making.

I worded my last post incorrectly. CE told me not to report the issue to HR, because they probably would have fired me rather than the VP because he has more pull than I do. Thing is however, he is 100% in the wrong. He has more pull, true, but that doesn't make it right.

Anyway, my point is if I reported my boss that was assigning other people's work to me to HR, I'm afraid the same thing would have happened. Right?
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Ruvan22 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Being nice isn't going to get results dude. You have to be assertive. That's why the swear word was in there. Rudeness is a perfectly acceptable thing in this generation and country. It's not against the law to be rude, just like it's not against the TOU to be rude on gamefaqs.

Edit: You know how corporate America works. Whenever there's a conflict, HR is going to get rid of whoever is less available to the company. That means usually the lower ranked employee is going to get booted. Had I went over my boss, I would have gotten fired, not my boss.

A) Again, you make the claim that being rude brings about results, and I'm asking in THAT situation did it get you the result you wanted? Or historically speaking, when did a world leader being rude lead to a better solution?
B) You can be nice AND assertive at the same time - why do you think they are mutually exclusive?
C) Do you believe "as long as it's not against the law it's okay to do it"?
D) I *do* know how corporate America works - oddly enough I've seen the opposite many times as the company did not want to lawsuit around "being asked to do things that aren't my job". Maybe you are drawing a conclusion based on limited experiences?

To answer your question, no it did not actually get me what I wanted. I wanted my boss to just stop assigning me to work that was not mine. But instead she tried to find unrelated reasons to fire me just because her feelings were hurt. But you are right, I didn't want to get fired. I just wanted time to do my own work.

I didn't mention this before, but the highest ranked job I ever had, I had a VP call me an idiot in an email that he accidentally CC'd me in. I actually made a topic on CE about it, because I was pissed and I wanted to report it to HR. CE and not the VP because the VP is more valued in the company.
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PoundGarden posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

You actually don't have a clue

My years in HR and management beg to differ. I've fired people like you all the time, you're not special or even memorable. Guarantee you're forgotten by the end of the day, these little statements and tantrums of yours only hurt you.

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Being nice isn't going to get results dude. You have to be assertive. That's why the swear word was in there. Rudeness is a perfectly acceptable thing in this generation and country. It's not against the law to be rude, just like it's not against the TOU to be rude on gamefaqs.

Edit: You know how corporate America works. Whenever there's a conflict, HR is going to get rid of whoever is less available to the company. That means usually the lower ranked employee is going to get booted. Had I went over my boss, I would have gotten fired, not my boss.

Yes, because that winning attitude has gotten you sooooo far in life.

Historically it has not gotten me far. But imagine if the opposite happened. Imagine if I were nice to that customer, or I decided to please my boss by doing all of the things that were not my job. I would probably live a very unfulfilling and miserable life as a doormat. I would rather make a little bit less money and have dignity, then make more money and be a pushover.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Quadruple posting is sad

"I have no argument against your points, so let's just point something unrelated out"
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Ruvan22 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Yes I swore

Remember, I was nice about it at first. I told her I have other projects I have to work on, and it's got to take a back seat. Explain to me what standing off for myself means without being rude?

A) Repeating your complaint with specifics about the time the new projects would take and how it would impact the things you are currently working on. As others have said, if this did not result in a change, going above her head to the direct supervisor or the HR department.

B) Why do you feel swearing is an appropriate way to "stand up for yourself"? Has that often resulted in positive results for you? Or in history?

Being nice isn't going to get results dude. You have to be assertive. That's why the swear word was in there. Rudeness is a perfectly acceptable thing in this generation and country. It's not against the law to be rude, just like it's not against the TOU to be rude on gamefaqs.

Edit: You know how corporate America works. Whenever there's a conflict, HR is going to get rid of whoever is less available to the company. That means usually the lower ranked employee is going to get booted. Had I went over my boss, I would have gotten fired, not my boss.
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When I walked into work today, the UPS guy had probably about 20 packages that he asked "hey dude, are you able to deliver these to the apartments for me? sorry man, but I really want to catch the bills game"

I'm not going to say what I said back, but I bet you CE would have said yes, and demonstrated the lack of backbone
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shockthemonkey posted...

Hey man if youre genuinely more happy in a worse job because you dont have to deal with fuckheads then good on you. You still deserve a living wage and healthcare.

Define worse. Like I said in a different message, more money does not mean better job
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PoundGarden posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

I have a new job. It's not as high paying, and it's not gonna get me credit from the cool kids at CE, but it's better than most jobs out there. Not a shitty job where they treat you poorly. Remember that money isn't everything. Just because it's higher paying doesn't mean it's better.

Awesome sauce. Well dont get comfy, with your attitude you'll fuck it up before they even have your uniform ordered lol

You actually don't have a clue
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PoundGarden posted...

Isnt it simply astonishing how some of the most prideful mf'ers are sitting at home unemployed in their studio apartments eating beans straight from the can for dinner calling everyone else suckers? That has always fascinated me.

I have a new job. It's not as high paying, and it's not gonna get me credit from the cool kids at CE, but it's better than most jobs out there. Not a shitty job where they treat you poorly. Remember that money isn't everything. Just because it's higher paying doesn't mean it's better.

shockthemonkey posted...

Sure these stories are entirely made up, but at least I can get attention on CE by making myself sound awful to work with.

Now you think I'm making it up? Jesus
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Here are the facts, we live in a world where people will take advantage of you. If you don't stand up for yourself, your job will take advantage of you, will refuse you for promotions and will make you do things that are not your job (might I add, not increase your pay either)

Yeah I ended up getting fired, but I think of it more as a problem on their end rather than one on my end. I did exactly what I should have done, I stood up for myself. Do you want to be taking advantage of it your job? I sure don't, but seems like you guys think otherwise

I understand sometimes not speaking your mind will avoid getting in trouble, but doesn't it piss you off when someone is clearly walking all over you and you don't do anything about that?
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Ruvan22 posted...

Did you actually say "It's not my fucking job"? Because there's a difference between standing up for your self and being rude/difficult to work with

Yes I swore

Remember, I was nice about it at first. I told her I have other projects I have to work on, and it's got to take a back seat. Explain to me what standing off for myself means without being rude?
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GiddyPinata posted...

Dude made a post basically strutting his own horn with no desire to be disvalidated. Which is fine but now, who cares?

I appreciate your opinion, coming from someone who read through all of the posts and then commented that he doesn't care about the topic
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shockthemonkey posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

I know a guy where his wife wouldn't allow him to hang out with his friends at all. I would only see him on holidays, and even then his wife would be around. I asked him why he puts up with that, and told him to stand up for himself.

Apparently CE thinks he should take that shit and cater to her as much as possible

Dude this gimmick sucks

Sounds like I had a good argument and you don't really have any way to counter it, so just comment that I have a "gimmick", whatever that means
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Are we talking about taste? If so, the statement is completely false
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Evening_Dragon posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

but that's not a me problem, that is all of my employers being a bunch of little childs.

You know the saying, when someone says everyone else is the problem...?

I know a guy where his wife wouldn't allow him to hang out with his friends at all. I would only see him on holidays, and even then his wife would be around. I asked him why he puts up with that, and told him to stand up for himself.

Apparently CE thinks he should take that shit and cater to her as much as possible
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PoundGarden posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

How does it feel that THAT is 50% of your life (The time you're at work)

Sucked at the time, but being retired at 40 with the house and cars paid off kind of makes up for it. No regerts, and again, that is literally most jobs. You really dont understand how this works, do you?

How does it feel being a grown ass man that cant hold a job?

Historically I have not been able to hold a job, but that's not a me problem, that is all of my employers being a bunch of little childs. You would think corporate America would be better than that
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shockthemonkey posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

By wasn't being used, you mean not taking shit, same as me

What abilities would that be? you don't know what abilities I have, only what I listed in this thread.

I know this isn't hard, which is why your posts make no sense

This is a bad broken record

How is that a broken record. Replying to points that were made.
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PoundGarden posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

sounds like you've been dealing with a job where you get treated like crap and you deal with it all day long

That's literally what most jobs are. I put in my time and the shit I ate allowed me to have the things I do, including a home I own outright.

How's being prideful and terrible with people working out for you?

How does it feel that THAT is 50% of your life (The time you're at work)
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nothanks1 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

By wasn't being used, you mean not taking shit, same as me

No he wasn't being used
He had abilities you don't have

like this isn't hard
it's like a receptionist with a background of skill in photoediting that made a few cards and it turns out during her annual review she mentioned she did it but never saw any work

By wasn't being used, you mean not taking shit, same as me

What abilities would that be? you don't know what abilities I have, only what I listed in this thread.

I know this isn't hard, which is why your posts make no sense
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nothanks1 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Have you ever seen office space? Remember the time when Peter is in the annual review room and he is extremely honest about what he does day by day?

Peter was good at his job
You just work a generic customer service one
Customer service jobs mean you put the customer first

He got promoted because he wasn't being used but was valuable

By wasn't being used, you mean not taking shit, same as me
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

You sound like you don't have a complete grasp of the employer-employee relationship. Or the employee-customer relationship. You've got to remember that even if your boss is treating you badly, the answer isn't to fly off the handle and start arguing or getting angry. The correct response is to complain to either HR, or corporate. Don't get into headbutting contests with your boss. Go over his head. That's how you get what you want. Otherwise you just make yourself an easy target and/or get yourself fired.

As for the angry customer thing, you don't help matters by getting sassy. As a cashier/salesfloor worker, if a customer is getting ornery, it's your job to call a manager over. Keep your cool and remember that people are assholes when they're upset about something. Or maybe they're just assholes in general. Still, don't let some random asshole cost you your dignity and your job because you couldn't control yourself. Just shrug them off and remember they're random assholes, and they're not worth losing your job over.

Maybe I didn't have to swear at the customer, but what should I have done? No way am I letting the customer walk all over me. I'm not going to let somebody talk to me like that.
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nothanks1 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

...you're seriously saying I should have done things that were not my job? or I should have been nice to the woman that called me the n-word? really hope you're joking. I didn't take it like a no-backbone person would have done, I did something about it.

'that's not my fucking job' is a problem. Do not speak to people when on the clock like that.

Being called a racial slur is a problem. You do not get to tell someone to 'get the fuck out of the store' when on the clock

Hotel problem I have no opinion on

Have you ever seen office space? Remember the time when Peter is in the annual review room and he is extremely honest about what he does day by day?

Remember how he said he's 15 minutes late to work everyday, only does 15 minutes worth of work and spaces out for the rest of the day? Guess what, they promoted him, because he proved he has a backbone. that is pretty much the exact same thing that I did. I saw something was wrong and I did something about it. People who do shit are the ones that are exploited and eventually fired because they were caught in some corporate loophole that America likes to throw people in.
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nothanks1 posted...

As someone who literally can say 'fuck off, I'm not doing that' to my manager.
You're in the wrong here.

You're not there to represent yourself.
You're there to represent the company and you are not there to act for yourself.
You fucked up in all three ways.

...you're seriously saying I should have done things that were not my job? or I should have been nice to the woman that called me the n-word? really hope you're joking. I didn't take it like a no-backbone person would have done, I did something about it.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Find a better job where you are not treated like crap, you deserve better than that. Why take crap from someone

What do you do now

I'm a guard, but that's because I couldn't find anything better
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BloodMoon7 posted...

No you handled it wrong in all three occasions. The world is full of shitty people. If you retaliate, more often than not, you're the one paying the price. Because the world is a shitty place.

That doesn't mean you have to take it. It just means you shouldn't be a stupid idiot about it.

Fair enough, define not taking it then. I feel like what I did was not taking it. Taking it would have been continuing to be nice even though the other end that doesn't deserve it.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Ok wise guy, If I "took" shit in that situation, give me an example where it would not have been considered taking shit

Exactly

What do you think is more shit - finding a new job or listening to an idiot who you can roll your eyes at?

Find a better job where you are not treated like crap, you deserve better than that. Why take crap from someone
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PoundGarden posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Ok wise guy, If I "took" shit in that situation, give me an example where it would not have been considered taking shit

Exactly

How old are you? It sounds like you dont understand the employer/employee relationship at all

sounds like you've been dealing with a job where you get treated like crap and you deal with it all day long
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Fluttershy posted...

you may think you don't take shit from others, but you described three situations where you got super shit on by people who got an easy rise out of you. i'm pretty sure they didn't have to go job-hunting after your encounter with them.

you let their attitudes dictate your actions. it's entirely possible to fight back in a corporate-friendly way, and keeping your cool and following script would be better for your longevity at a job.

Ok wise guy, If I "took" shit in that situation, give me an example where it would not have been considered taking shit

Exactly
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voldothegr8 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Interesting. A coworker of mine asked for a raise (No job I'm lined up or anything, just friendly asking) and it actually worked

Edit: It is very unfortunate that corporate America works in a fashion like this. Firing someone because they are buttmad that their employee asked for a raise? Seems like something a child would do, not a big corporation

Asking for a raise is different then demanding a match from another company or you walk.

Is it really different though? Both are asking for something better than you have. I'm not saying I disagree, I'm just questioning what you mean by that
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Let me go over my job history real quick:

1. Got fired from a job after my newly appointed boss kept making me do tasks that were not my job. At first, I nicely asked her not to assign those jobs to me, but she didn't listen. I finally told her "that's not my fucking job". Immediately after, I had gotten three write-ups within a span of a week (all unrelated stuff like being late from lunch by 1 minute, etc), and then was fired shortly after. Technically I have no proof that she fired me because she was pissed that I was assertive.

2. When I was 18 I used to work in retail. I got fired because I was a little rude to one of the customers. My policy is to treat others with respect, but only if I'm respected. This angry customer was calling me an idiot, called me the N word and even took a picture of me with their phone. I was pissed and I told her to get the fuck out of the store. My job didn't agree, but in my opinion this person got what they deserved, and I believe that customer crossed the line and I had every right to not be nice to them.

3. Used to work in a hotel, and the owner of the hotel and got a little nasty with me one day. I don't remember what the situation was about, but I told him "Don't talk to me that way". Nothing happened at first, but then I noticed that the hotel called the company I worked for and asked me to be reassigned.

unlike most people in the corporate America world, I have a backbone and I don't allow people to treat me the way I feel I shouldn't be treated. let me ask one thing, is this a bad attribute to have as an employee? Should I allow people to walk all over me?
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voldothegr8 posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Not to put you on blast but, CE, do you agree with this?

I don't mind, and the reason it almost never works is because doing such a thing causes severe mistrust. Even if the current company does pony up in most cases they're looking for a replacement and will let you go once they find it. Then both opportunities are blown and the situation far worse.

Unless you're highly irreplaceable it's an ill advised tactic. Ultimatums like that usually don't go over well no matter which side of the fence.

Interesting. A coworker of mine asked for a raise (No job I'm lined up or anything, just friendly asking) and it actually worked

Edit: It is very unfortunate that corporate America works in a fashion like this. Firing someone because they are buttmad that their employee asked for a raise? Seems like something a child would do, not a big corporation
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R1masher posted...

Im no botanist, but I hear baby gravy is good for zits... I dont have any zits

Seems like one of those conspiracy options that don't really work

Irony posted...

Try washing

Joke answer
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I had three zits incoming, one on the corner of my nose, and two near my lip

I decided to dab some benzoyl peroxide on those problem areas and go to sleep. When I woke up in the morning, the benzyl peroxide hardened into this weird flaky stuff. When I took a shower to get rid of it, the zits were still present.

Fuck it. I ended up just popping the zits and moving on. There the zits are gone permanently
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Drpooplol posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

I'm not sure if I believe that. Every annual review I've ever had at all jobs, you walk in to an office and your boss goes over how you did. The raise is already predetermined, you have no negotiation room. but I can't speak for every company out there. But that's just my experiences.

I mean I work for a really good company and I'm a highly experienced individual. I have a CPA with a masters in Finance and I work as a consultant for a large insurance company.

I have more pull than you.

what do you mean by you have more pull than me? you have that piece of paper but that's it
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Drpooplol posted...

Chunkey Simmons posted...

Do you ask for raises at all? Or do you not ask for anything at all at your job?

I work for a big corporate juggernaut, so they don't really listen to raise requests outside of yearly performance reviews/promotion time. So during those times I just document all the shit I've done throughout the year that makes me a good employee/deserving of a raise.

However when I worked for smaller local employers you bet I asked for raises whenever I got a new certification or when I was outperforming my peers and could demonstrate it.

I'm not sure if I believe that. Every annual review I've ever had at all jobs, you walk in to an office and your boss goes over how you did. The raise is already predetermined, you have no negotiation room. but I can't speak for every company out there. But that's just my experiences.
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President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016.

C7D posted...

In that case, if I'm being honest, I would take the other job. Then, I would meet with my current boss explaining how you have been at the company for a while, how you like working there, but you need more money to stay while highlighting your accomplishments. If you do not get the raise, you already have the other job. If you do get it, I would be looking for more than you were offered at the other place.

this is hypothetical. I don't actually have a job lined up. I'm currently applying.
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President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016.