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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/04/19 8:43:28 AM
#24
DocDelicious posted...
Sounds similar to the Uberman sleep schedule.

Are you aware that it usually takes about two weeks to reset your sleep cycles before even beginning to follow the schedule? Are you also aware that during this period you are brought close to death from lack of sleep and experience "intense hallucinations" among a host of other side-effects?


I haven't been able to do it perfectly yet but it's been three weeks so far.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:41:24 AM
#19
funkyfritter posted...
A friend of mine tried doing this in college. It all fell apart after a few days. I'm convinced that this entire idea is nonsense and that sleeping so little every day is utterly impractical in the long run.

Give it a try, but don't hurt yourself.


Yeah, I'm not entirely sure. I can safely say that I feel way better on 3-4 hours of sleep on this method than I ever did getting that all at once. I seem to be quite alert and productive for most of the waking hours.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:40:27 AM
#18
zebatov posted...
That won't work for long. Your body will just give one day and you'll be late for work. I sleep on average four hours per night, then after work on Friday I'll usually sleep about six, stay up all night, then sleep until noon on Saturday.


We'll see. I'm approaching three weeks in now but I'm also not at 2 hours yet (I'm gradually getting there at close to 3.5 per day now).
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:39:07 AM
#17
funkyfritter posted...
A friend of mine tried doing this in college. It all fell apart after a few days. I'm convinced that this entire idea is nonsense and that sleeping so little every day is utterly impractical in the long run.

Give it a try, but don't hurt yourself.


Take a look at my youtube channel documenting it. I'm far from the 2 hours per day (averaging around 3.5 or so now) but I think I can get to sub 3. I'm also three weeks in now so things are getting more normal.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:38:08 AM
#16
TheWitchMorgana posted...
bro you're gonna die


I don't think so. Buckminster Fuller who invented the cycle lived to 88 at a time when the average age was a lot lower than that. Again, I am always willing to adjust if I see real evidence concerning the health impacts.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:37:05 AM
#15
LinkPizza posted...
JSebastianBach posted...
I don't get how this really helps if you have a busy schedule. Breaking up the conventional day twice (and IIRC the similarly-touted Ubermensch does this even more) doesn't sound super convenient to me. Plus what are you really gonna get done in the middle of the night, the hours you're gaining, that's all that important? It's not a good time to go outside, businesses are closed, and even if you have a remote job, you'd be lucky if they were actually trusting enough to let you work during odd hours.

It depends on a lot of things. I think hes trying to basically find a way to have more time up. But it depends on what extra stuff he needs to get done. And his job. I know in the Air Force, my normal shift was 11pm-7am. So that took care of the night when things we close. Meaning most thing we open when I was off. He could have a night shift job that would allow him to do that. Or another job where it doesnt mater when they work as long as they get the work done.

Theres also the fact that it seems he wants more social time with people, as well. Some people have jobs at odd hours. I usually talk to my mom a little before and after midnight due to her working night shifts a lot more these days. Plus, he could spend extra time with an SO at anytime theyre both home.

He could also study around that time. For college or other classes or whatever. As for going outside, it just depends on your area...

Personally, I agree that it sounds kind of inconvenient. But it seems to work for him, so...

I understand it, I guess...


To be clear, my primary job is an 8am-5pm schedule. With that said, the gym, learning chess, movies/video games, my master's degree, and my side work can all be done late at night/early in the morning.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:36:04 AM
#14
jramirez23 posted...
Use it to study Chinese!


I'm learning chess but Chinese would have good business use. I'd likely learn other languages first though.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 2:35:20 AM
#13
JSebastianBach posted...
I don't get how this really helps if you have a busy schedule. Breaking up the conventional day twice (and IIRC the similarly-touted Ubermensch does this even more) doesn't sound super convenient to me. Plus what are you really gonna get done in the middle of the night, the hours you're gaining, that's all that important? It's not a good time to go outside, businesses are closed, and even if you have a remote job, you'd be lucky if they were actually trusting enough to let you work during odd hours.


Concerning the convenience of breaking up the day, I generally do the four thirty minute naps at midnight, 6:00am (before work), noon (during lunch), and 6:00pm (after work) so it works pretty smoothly. It's ultimate the difference of about 7 hours of sleep per day vs 2-3 (which is the long term goal). 4-5 hours per day is significant.

Concerning how I spend that time, I do my Master's degree, some accounting/finance work for my side businesses, grocery shopping at 24 hour stores, and I go to the gym sometime between 2-5am. Additionally, I sometimes play video games or watch movies or other things I didn't have time for before.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 12:17:02 AM
#5
LinkPizza posted...
Its seems like a waste of time unless youre going to do something with those extra hours. Personally, I would rather use them to sleep. For people who need more hours in the day, or work longer days, they do this automatically. Without having to just want to change their sleep cycle. I know plenty of people who have done similar things because they had multiple jobs that required them only getting a little bit of sleep per day. Until they had enough time to crash for a whole day to actually get rested up...

JSebastianBach posted...
Also isn't there a lack of scientific evidence to these things being beneficial/healthy?

Theres a lack of science for what sleep is. I say this because there are plenty of studies done on sleeping. But they all come up different. And lots of stuff dont even make sense. They say that for people, some just need less sleep. And theres not really a reason for it. Sleeping is just weird all together...


I have a very busy schedule and this was brought as an effort to both catch up on all the work I do and have free time for personal development and social relationships. It seems to be going well and I want to keep pushing the limits of minimal sleep without incurring negative health benefits.

Additionally, I concur that sleep is odd and the research done is not nearly as scientific as say nutrition or other aspects of health.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/03/19 12:15:23 AM
#4
JSebastianBach posted...
These things always sound dumb to me because I can rarely even fall asleep in 30 minutes, so how am I supposed to sleep for just 30? When I have a lack of sleep it's rarely a lack of effort, it's lack of literal physical/mental ability to do so. The extra 6 hours each day I guess would be nice but honestly not even remotely worth the effort and high probability of failure and schedule inconvenience. I'm still trying to crack normal sleep here.

Also isn't there a lack of scientific evidence to these things being beneficial/healthy?


Everyone is different I suppose. As I'm wrapping up three weeks of around three and a half hours per day of sleep (gradually working towards the two hours per day), I can say that I have had positive experiences for the most part. I have gotten a lot better at taking naps and falling asleep quickly.

Concerning the health concerns, as with anything, there are risks/rewards. I believe most of the risks are largely overestimated.
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TopicJoin me on my journey to an alternative sleep cycle! Less sleep, more work!
refureeman
06/02/19 9:19:47 PM
#1
Hey all,

I recently started what I am calling the Jordan Sleep Cycle (JSC) which is basically an alternate form of the dymaxion sleep cycle developed by Buckminster Fuller. Essentially, the idea is instead of all your sleep all at once, you split it into smaller naps that are more efficient and therefore you need less total sleep.

What I am aiming for is 4 thirty minute naps totaling two hours of sleep per 24 hour period. With my schedule, I am attempting to do this at 12:00am, 6:00am, 12:00pm, and 6:00pm with some flexibility. I'm gradually moving into the cycle and have created a youtube/vlog that walks through my journey from day one.

I would love to get your guys' feedback and let me know if there is any advice I should be following.

The channel, for those that are curious to see me borderline insane and trying to stabalize, is below:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUqYvqGwAbtsXaaM54nRJgQ
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