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1. Pezloco, pezlo tunnel on me seems to be something he wants to deal with it pretty badly. He votes for red and it doesnt look that bad but seems like its mostly based on paranoia? Pez breaking from the tunneling looks good but i think he stopped more for the reason no one will follow him to my easy misslynch overall lean scum on pez for pez
Bullet points
A. His tunnel on me is bad
B. His vote on red is nothing but perinoa from last game and it shows
C. Very protective of Tom roommate powers or not its not a good look maybe protecting a scum power beacuse Tom looks scummy to me still ill exsplain later
2. UltimaterializerX - ulti looks good to me playing very cool this game has given some pretty solid reads and looking alot less jumpy and paranoid though last time i really like Ulti day 1 ans day 2 i found he was scum with corrik though corrik refusibf ti vote for him when he could have been the days lynch but no one cared but for now Town lean heavy for ulti
3. Lea3Lea- i really like lea today and the end of the day yeaterday. She was very jumpy ans vote switched a ahit ton day 1 but she ended up finally sticking to thinking luis was scum and was the very 1st to point out luis looking scummy and i think partly helped with the lynch of luis atleast loosely
4. Red13n- im paranoid on why red is still here as well but dont want to base my whole day on it red is more actively hunting this game then he did in my wwe game so maybe he is town or maybe trying to switch it up a bit to not play the same scum game. For now i dont have the greatest read on red but wouldnt say he is scum but dont have him town either so oll say neutral
5. Benjamin- first id like to say ben ia far less active this game then games where he has been town if i remember correctly when i was scum with him he was a little more stand offish that game as well. Ben im not sure of his reads though he is doing that om gonna give 5 names of who could be town then im going to go and reread the ones who couldnt be town and go from their kind of thing possibly having a scum buddy or 2 in his list. This game im far less sold on him being town then games of past usually ben is a pretty wasy read for me if i had to put a shot on it id say Ben is likely scum this game.
6. SBell (Obellisk)- sbell i coild possibly see as scum this game he seems to be lurking or lying in the weeda and jumps up makes a few breif points then leaves again. Not the greatest lead on him but seems kind of odd id say scum lean until proven innocent
7. Camarija- cam i hate but love reading your content all at the same time alot of info but so fucking hard to read i cant read you very well beacuse your numbery making me go back and look to see what youre actually saying is very hard on me to understand i get the gist and kinda move on from your post unless inwant to know more about it and actually go back and look some shorter to the loont post woild be nice read IDFK slight town read??
8. MZero- to be honest idk hasnt been the most active player but content when he is here seems okay ill say neutral?
9. Sir Chris (DoomTheGyarados) chris got the scum kill but i still got alot of paranoia on it but maybe you guys are right they picked scare figuring he would be protected. I think still worth looking into and not let off the hook just yet chris is very capable when given a 1 kill shot to kill a scum team mate to "confirm he is town" i think he is probably town though his reada today and exsplanation on luis are much better then what he was offering yesterday that made me susspect him initially so id say like before 75% town
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I can even do a whole players list run down before i go if everyone would like
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Alright pez ill give you 1 more shot. Who do you want deeper depth on oll try really really hard before i have to go @pezloco
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pezloco posted...

A hypothetical one yes. But specifically Luis? And also with Red as his teammate who hates bussing?

So youre saying its only possible he does this if red is his teammate?

Or am i misunderstanding this?
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People suspecting pez he points fingers back at me "The easy mislynch guy" making my suspicions on him grow abit more about my previously stated thoughts on pez
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pezloco posted...

So only way it works is if Red is scum with Chris. But then why bus Luis? Saying Chris could be scum only makes sense if you want to argue third party. And believe me I'd listen to that. But I don't think you're going there. So why mention it?

I disagree i could totally see a scum chris kill a team mate to make himself look amazing
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Is it normal for corrik when people pit suspicion on him to just disappear?
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Pez doesnt loke me for taking the advice of o believe it was Han and maybe Ulti? to keep my reads short and sweet opposed to what i was doing in games of past. I have good reada just dont i guess exspress them the best. So no matter what i do it doesnt seem to help with atleast someone though form my experience the ones who pick on me for my reads the most are usually scum trying to convince everyone om scum beacuse im an easy miss lynch so let me go back and look into your game more beacuse right now im thinking this possibly what is going on
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Hmm it is odd red is here too over scare who definitely felt out of the most exsperianced players who seemed the least threating since he was newly into the game but idk this is all bad meta trying tonthink of what the scum team would do.
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##Vote:Corrik

To use your favorite saying "Claim or die"
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Oh hey nice congrats

Wait how come you have time to play and eaed doesn't lol

Idk he got kids and i think he was forced to work overtime or something idk i only usually talk to him alot on weekends a few small thing about baseball during the week sooo idk
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MZero11 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

WARNING NOW I WILL PROBABLY NOT BE ACTIVE TOMORROW ITS MY BATCHELOR PARTY DAY!

Congrats bro

Thank you.. mzero thoughts on corrik and thoughts on why scum would pick scare over chris?
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Okay so im here WARNING NOW I WILL PROBABLY NOT BE ACTIVE TOMORROW ITS MY BATCHELOR PARTY DAY!

So i find it odd that scum would chose to kill scare over chris after chris choosing correctly so that seems odd. I guess maube they thought he would have been protected or something? Eirher way chris looks good now though he did give me some weird vibes yesterday so id say

Chris 75% town? But you know thats just cuz i find it kind of odd he is still here.

Um thoughts i was cool with the luis vote good kill chris.

Corrik. Buttered up chris all day but didnt actually "follow orders" but maybe him buttering up chris was his play to look town knowing he knew that chris was town?

Lea looks good for pointing out flaws on luis page 2 yes cam i did actually see her post dont say i didnt hence the town points for lea but thats not here nor their

Cam is looking pretty good as well i like his game break down posts.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Who is hyped for my choice?

Good news: Not someone who voted for me :)

If interested and hyped are the same thing then yes
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Corrik ia doing that corrik thing if he is town he doesn't kill me stuff not sure if that is good or not

Corrik does this it makes me want to say he is scum but idk i might be missing the true point behind it
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Is lea a bomb?
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Camarija posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Camarija posted...

Lea set off all kinds of alarms for me

However

Their engagement and voting looks good to me

I also liked how they pushed MZero pretty hard and early

They keep prodding inactives and keep the game state in front of them

I think they're town I just don't understand well

Cam, please stop using activity to townclear. Remember Endgame, where many of the super active people were scum?

Negative

In endgame, sort by postcount would have solved the game

The only active mafia player was corrik, who was actively open wolfing

Ulti was super active what you talking about
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Well this is an interesting turn of events..
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Well if its a real role i doubt someone would claim it if it wasnt true???

##unvote:Dowolf
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@DoomTheGyarados @Corrik7

Is this a real role?? Im so confused right now...
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What the hell does that mean Dowolf?
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Ulti and lea are cracking me up
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benjamin3740 posted...

Or we can all vote Dowolf until he claims. Scare has a point

##Unvote
##Vote: Dowolf

Im cool with pressing dowolf

##Unvote:Chris
##vote: dowolf
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UltimaterializerX posted...

(4) SBell: (Lea), Lea
(3) Dowolf: (Lea)
(2) red: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea)
(2) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), (Lea)
(2) Ben: (Lea)
(2) Sir Chris: (Lea)
(0) Scare: (Lea)
(0) Hb: (Lea)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Lea)
(0) Cam: (Lea)
(0) Death: (Lea)
(0) Luis: (Lea)

That's 20 votes now. Just ridiculous.

I agree this looks like you from a couple games back lol ipointed thst out and people thought i waa crazy
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Does that really mean i owe you though?
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Puns only having 1 read that is a newly replaced scare idk if he was being funny or serious
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Fair enough sbell
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Sbell is their ever a game when im town you dont think im scum? Just curious

This reminds me. Don't you owe me a non-suspicion game after the last time you tunneled me for days and I was town <_<

Do i?
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Sbell is their ever a game when im town you dont think im scum? Just curious
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Can everyone please, in order, give me a list of their top five scum suspects? I think this would prove interesting given the current game state.

Chris
Dowolf
Tom(Hunch) not really a good reason but hasnt done anything to change said hunch
Corrik
Dont really have a number 5

I could see maybe one of the following though

Lolo
Luis
Hb
Lea
Cam
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Hey scare are you scum should i be voting for you?
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5tarscream posted...

No problem Sultan. You want to explain why you think Chris is scum over some of the other candidates or is this just posturing to show that youre not scared to call him out despite his rep.

5tarscream posted...

Though Sultan has since said he simply missed my post about Ben so maybe I can ask a different question.
Do you believe both Ben and SBell defended hb because they both legit think hes town and others are wrong or do you think one of them is likely scum and trying to look good early. Im sure you can predict the follow up question.

Okay first question. I genuinely think chris is kind of off thia game his reasoning for vote jumping is "Putting pressure" putting pressure on a person with 1 vote how treatening is that when their is what 11 needed to lynch someone? I mean yeah i also do want to let it be known im not afraid to press the big dogs like chris exsphally since he is supposed to be the best player to mafia and hasnt shown me he is town yet yeah he is definitely worth going back and looking on i advise people to stop just being like chris is so good lets not look at him kind of mentality

Also i can see where some of the protecting of hb has come in by people ive been back and forth on it myself, alot of people jumping on him for saying vanilla over villager is kind of silly exsphally when in the context that Hb was using was he wanted it to be obvious to everyone exsphally if someone didnt take the time to read 4 post of game introductions.

However some of the flavor meta is also silly since it was stated that not to take character flavor into consideration when deciding if someone is town or scum. Harry potter being a villager i mean yeah it could aound silly like why would a wizard be village well think about it in another context he is a preteen when the books start and ia faulted by basically needing to die to beat his villian

FLAVOR METTA ISNT GOOD as a true read on someone
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Thats some decnet reasoning and i can see it im sorry 5tar i some how missed that
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Tom Bombadil posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

5tarscream posted...

##Vote: Ben

Why? Elaborate?

I hate votes like this

He posted reasoning like two posts up (and even formatted it nicely <3)

Youre right my bad 5tar
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Pez pointed out that you ignored Tom logic which in my big post I thought was a good point.

Nice try, sir.

I did say that my thoughts on Tom was a hunch.. so it is what it is i guess.

What do you actually want to know about that?

Still good try i know youre a good player and seems like people are afraid to push you im not going to be afraid to push you chris. Why so much vote jumping with very little reasoning? Why is your play not impressing me? People are bowing down to you but why? You dont look super town to me like everyone is saying so youre ayper jumpy and why is that to pressure people who only have 1 vote on them?? Thats not a pressure when their is this many people but who am I im sultan you guys always write me off soo....
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Hey look i look scummy beacuse i pointed out chris looking off... thats funny..

##vote:Chris
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turbopuns3 posted...

chris do you have the pocket-size cliff notes of why ben is scum handy?

This would be useful i havent seen much if an argument on ben id like to see more of the argument
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Chris is doing a shit ton if Vote jumping

Usually when i see this the person is typically scum.

Chris has been giving me bad feelings so far this game as well like i said before thats why i dont like how corrik was playing.

Anyone else getting very bad vibes from chris?
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5tarscream posted...

##Vote: Ben

Why? Elaborate?

I hate votes like this
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Interesting turn to death chris and lea can you provide a bit more to this vote on death?
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Oh and 5 tar after that post interesting so he wants to put pressure on (never a bad thing but hasnt offered up much other reads)
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Okay alot of push against lea i see. Well i think some of the people pushing the lea votes reasoning are a lot of waggoning. I think its possible a scum is hiding in it.

Looking at the reasoning so most of it is lea isnt playing well? Isnt playing well makes you scum now? I guess im probably scum every game right?

Looking at those voting lea

Chris tom hb and 5tar (Cam) and (Corrik)

Corrik is following chris (Still hate that play)

Cam has been jumping on and off that train so moght be worth keepong and eye on.

Im looking more at hb for our possible scum in the group maybe even cam if he is to jump back on again.
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Gonna drop my case on corrik for now but igtg to work ill be back on my break

##Unvote:Corrik
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Corrik7 posted...

If you truly believe I am anti-town and +EV to Lynch as either alignment, is not following someone who you consider better at the game trying harder to be better for the village?

I mean i suppose so this just seems so anti you and maybe im just in complete shock youre playing this way beacuse i consider you to be really good at this game also very considering since i dont have the best read on chris and havent confirmed him town yet so it makes me look to you a good player who is just lap dogging i expect alot of digging from town corrik the only other time ive seen you somewhat rely on someone was when we where scum in tinytoons but it was such a 2 headed dragon on our team but you where still one of the 2 heads so maybe im just exspting to much from you?
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