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I think my least favorite thing about mafia is people claiming but lying and then I never know what the hell is going on.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Obellisk posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Obellisk posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

But if you want to lynch someone else. I say Brohan is probably our best bet

Why Brohan?

He isnt really doing anything his reasoning for jumping on the train from what ive seen was non existant if i had to put money on who was scum in the horrible train on Ulti it would he Bro

But... No one jumped on Ulti cause they actually thought he was scum, they did it to do it. Why single out brobutt?

Well it could definitely be because he is newer player? But i feel like his in particular was just bad..

But sbell i definitely think youre town this game so i like that you are actually askkng me questions i feel its very helpful for me anyways

Thanks Sultan. But brollypolly is not new.
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Ok kids, I got house guest coming tomorrow. I gots the cleaning to do. Try not to hammer anyone while I'm gone.
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Strike that. Their attention has turned to Sultan yet again.

Its quite a turn of events
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What's this? Corrik and Yoko Kurama are working together now. It's a tag team fight and Lopen is on the receiving end!
Grab your popcorn folks.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

God if I wanted to murder Sultan there are surely easier ways than this.

He's not wrong.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Obellisk posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

But if you want to lynch someone else. I say Brohan is probably our best bet

Why Brohan?

He isnt really doing anything his reasoning for jumping on the train from what ive seen was non existant if i had to put money on who was scum in the horrible train on Ulti it would he Bro

But... No one jumped on Ulti cause they actually thought he was scum, they did it to do it. Why single out brobutt?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

But if you want to lynch someone else. I say Brohan is probably our best bet

Why Brohan?
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Well ladies and gents if you thought Day 1 was action packed, you ain't seen nothing yet.

In this corner we have Yoko Kurama, Super Cop

And in this corner we have Corrik, Other Guy.

Who will win?!?!?!?!
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How many topic ones will there be?
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Lopen posted...

Obellisk posted...

But I too put in effort and attempted to actually scum hunt. Why is my scum hunting suspicious?

Because I feel like it's more a me thing at this point and not a content thing.

Scumhunting while joining the lynch wagon while not really supporting it was suspicious, not scumhunting itself

You voted for me yesterday long before I decided to let Chris have his fun.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Obellisk posted...

Unblockzble

Bulletproof

Cop

All that has flipped is a tracker.

Pretty wild and insane scum play to not fake claim one possible role but Three.

3 roles for one cop scan. The extra parts are all unnecessary but extremely convenient for Chris to claim.

Wonder if he got hit with JK or something.

Right but if the game has a BP or other cop. Chris gets a counter and we'll fuck... He already looks bad for the Ulti thing, why not lure out some power before he dies and worst case create another mislynch...

Well nevermind, good feelings fading.
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Unblockzble

Bulletproof

Cop

All that has flipped is a tracker.

Pretty wild and insane scum play to not fake claim one possible role but Three.
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Lopeydopes, would you mind educating me a bit when you get a chance. What is it about my actions yesterday make me suspicious?

I may have been wrong on Blade (for the record I no longer consider that player slot as scum, his anger at the day and the replace after we lynched tracker does not feel like scum at all). But I too put in effort and attempted to actually scum hunt. Why is my scum hunting suspicious?

Because I feel like it's more a me thing at this point and not a content thing.
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Brobaby your bold be broke
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Wait.

Chris I'm confused.

Were you blocked or is Sultan scum?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Anyway no sense in delaying.

I am Kurama. Once a game I can turn into Yoko Kurama. With this I gain the following:

- Bulletproof (real reason I used it n1 and why I don't think there's a strongman tbh. strongman with an activated BP would be weird so very possible scum did try to vig me!)
- Unblockable
- An Untrickable scan (meaning it would go through godfather)

I scanned Sultan because god knows no one listens to me when I say he is town and die. He turned up scum.

I am not bulletproof going forward or anything of the like, but yeah.

Oh, well then, scratch my prior post. Cool beans.
##vote:sultan
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Godzilla Mafia the strongman was an enhancement not additional.

I don't think you being alive means there isn't one.

Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things here, you pushed the murder of towns tracker, not exactly prime nk if town.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

5/17 has the chance of scum having a vig since they don't have a strongman, so I'd say there is a reasonable chance I was protected.

How would we know that?
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I've never seen the opposite of a board 8 special till this game.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Sbell will be grouchy and probably wrong a lot

But with pizzazz
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

This game has too many posts already.

Look at Mr. "Let's Try and Finish a 17 Player Game In One Topic" over here.

I'm just trying to save us all the pain.

With 17 players, if every player sets a daily limit for themselves at 29 posts, we can keep each day below one topic.

As people die that number can increase.

I like this. I also think I'm dangerously close to being quiet for the rest of the day.
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Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Still though it's a bad reason to vote for someone. This all feels like a lot of bad reasons to vote someone.

Why do you think I was not voting for him.

Because you'd rather vote the only person in the game who was actually putting in effort

Which is why your vote is so scum slanted to begin with.

Again, activity doesn't a town make.
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Meow1000 posted...

Still though it's a bad reason to vote for someone. This all feels like a lot of bad reasons to vote someone.

Why do you think I was not voting for him.
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"I have the most fun watching sbell be bad at mafia, yuk yuk yuk"
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

The Sir Chris of Old was kind of a dick. Plus, you can tell a lot by where the chips fall. You may not control the chips, but each chip can tell you something.

I call it reckless intent. Scum can't predict recklessness well. It is telling, in many delightful ways. The unexpected is, after all, unpredictable. Scum scheme and they build these plans and I just want to smash them.

Feels genuine

Meow1000 posted...

Part of me wants to vote Ulti for the "absurd" factor I just don't trust this lynch at all.

Though there is a hilarious potential outcome though I admit

Feels fake.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Scum scheme and they build these plans and I just want to smash them.

Then smash you shall.

##unvote
##vote: ulti

But I'm not forgetting this blade thing. I can't unsee what I see in his posts.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Sbell may I interest you in an Ulti lynch? We're changing the dynamics of board 8! We're living a little! It can't be that bad if I am advocating for it, right?

What does it mean change the dynamics? Are we not playing mafia anymore? Is it just hammer a guy immediately and see where the chips fall? Because that's not the sir Chris of old.
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Corrik7 posted...

I am becoming convinced that Ulti is likely scum. Look how many people are saying I will vote Ulti but not actually doing it. Mzero and forceful now. Sbell tried deflection.

But no one has just said, I ain't voting Ulti because I don't think he is scum or with legit reasons.

Just. I will but not before everyone posts.
I will but it is only because I don't like him as a person. Or OMG Chris that % of scum is too much.

How many just said like hey we aren't lynching Ulti stop. Almost no one. Why?

Stop. Stop blatsntly misrepresenting me. I didn't deflect anything.
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Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

SBell calls me scum almost every game we play together or I'd be flat out torching him for that vote.

Do I? I don't think I do.

And I'm not going to apologize for reading your thoughts on what's trangressing and not blindly buying into it.

I still remember a game where I was mortally confirmed town who had lynched 3 scum in a row and you spent every single one of those days calling me scum.

I remember a game not too long ago where there was a mortally confirmed flavor cop and yet I still tried to kill him. All of these games we speak of, I was town.

The only reason I'm not immediately murdering you for the vote is I'm pretty sure you've voted me in at least 90% of the games we've played together is still the point.

It's just like how Ulti's first post looks bad specifically because it comes from Ulti. Yours doesn't look as bad because it comes from you.

Thanks? I think.
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Meow1000 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Blade trying to pick fights with everyone that questions him is definitely different than last game where it really felt like he wasn't trying at all. Granted I didn't read most of last game so that might be off, there does feel like there is more fire to him here than there was communicating with him in the scum chat anyway. Makes me feel better about him, despite his absolutes that he is throwing out.

The longer Chris goes riding this in the background, the more likely he is to be scum if Ulti is town.

To me, this is an absolute.

But if Ulti is scum then Chris can't possible be scum?
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Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

And my attack on IGCD wasn't supposed to have any serious weight since the very first thing I did was give him town points and then I reiterated I gave him town points later.

You can give town points and then act like you got a reason to cast shade.

Town points don't negate future scumspicion

I have no interest in voting for IGCD at this point in time.

I didn't forsee you voting for him right now anyway. But you are saying he's likely scum if X happens. And that's enough for right now wouldn't you say?

If it's any consolation I scum read you way more than I scum read him right now!

Well, counter suspicion never hurt a relationship in the past... Why should we let it start now.

See I feel like your vote on me is fake. You're voting me for being the only person in the game to actually be contributing when almost the entire game is doing absolutely nothing.

That's a much more scum slanted reason to vote me than a town one.

I'm not voting you for being the one to try to start conversation. I'm voting you for what you are saying.

There's a difference.
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Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

SBell calls me scum almost every game we play together or I'd be flat out torching him for that vote.

Do I? I don't think I do.

And I'm not going to apologize for reading your thoughts on what's trangressing and not blindly buying into it.

I still remember a game where I was mortally confirmed town who had lynched 3 scum in a row and you spent every single one of those days calling me scum.

I remember a game not too long ago where there was a mortally confirmed flavor cop and yet I still tried to kill him. All of these games we speak of, I was town.
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Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

And my attack on IGCD wasn't supposed to have any serious weight since the very first thing I did was give him town points and then I reiterated I gave him town points later.

You can give town points and then act like you got a reason to cast shade.

Town points don't negate future scumspicion

I have no interest in voting for IGCD at this point in time.

I didn't forsee you voting for him right now anyway. But you are saying he's likely scum if X happens. And that's enough for right now wouldn't you say?

If it's any consolation I scum read you way more than I scum read him right now!

Well, counter suspicion never hurt a relationship in the past... Why should we let it start now.
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Meow1000 posted...

SBell calls me scum almost every game we play together or I'd be flat out torching him for that vote.

Do I? I don't think I do.

And I'm not going to apologize for reading your thoughts on what's trangressing and not blindly buying into it.
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Meow1000 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Meow1000 posted...

And my attack on IGCD wasn't supposed to have any serious weight since the very first thing I did was give him town points and then I reiterated I gave him town points later.

You can give town points and then act like you got a reason to cast shade.

Town points don't negate future scumspicion

I have no interest in voting for IGCD at this point in time.

I didn't forsee you voting for him right now anyway. But you are saying he's likely scum if X happens. And that's enough for right now wouldn't you say?
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Meow1000 posted...

And my attack on IGCD wasn't supposed to have any serious weight since the very first thing I did was give him town points and then I reiterated I gave him town points later.

You can give town points and then act like you got a reason to cast shade.

Town points don't negate future scumspicion
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Meow1000 posted...

Actually taking it a step further, if Ulti is town I think the scumteam has Chris, Brohan, and at least one of Lea or Lopen on it.

I kind of just think Brohan is scum who doesn't give a crap regardless.

5 people yet to even post.

Blade got it all figured out...
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Meow1000 posted...

The fact that he tried to justify it so much long after he made, and only because I put suspicion on the early votes, looks bad.

Was he justifying his vote or responding to my opinion of the opening Ulti post?

Blade, I don't like your attack on igcd. It's fake. It's got no weight.

##vote:: Blade

You've come into this mishamosh of a game and are dealing in too many absolutes for me right now.
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Blade you've really worked yourself into some absolutes here pretty early. There are so many Ulti votes.

Why is IGCDs so bad?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

In any case not too much much seems to be happening

Well since you're here. Any opinion on what HAS happened?
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Meow1000 posted...

Ulti is the only person in the entire game I would suspect this openly. This is absolutely in his scum range.

Right, but what is the benefit?
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Meow1000 posted...

me being the only person in the game to openly suspect that if Ulti is something like scum vanilla this is a preplanned bus is not a good look.

Color me really bad at mafia "technique", however I do not see any benefit to opening a scum game with the intent to bury your own.
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And there it is, ladies and gentlemen Lopen has laid the first punch On Sbell! It's really heating up now.
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Leanansidhe posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

Alright let's take a poll who on and off this lynch finds Ulti's first post scummy.

I vote "leaning no" personally, however considering all data I am currently leaning yes.

I'm curious where the majority lies.

As someone not voting ulti. I think at first glance it just looks like Ulti and you could go either way really but it's not until you really stare at it for a while do you start to lead yourself down a scum rabbit hole of his true intentions.

Unfortunately all the attention given to his first post has sent him into hiding so trying to actually determine if it is scum has become impossible.

Going into hiding so it can't be determined if you're town or not is a solid townie move

Yes, I get that it is unbecoming.
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Lopen posted...

Alright let's take a poll who on and off this lynch finds Ulti's first post scummy.

I vote "leaning no" personally, however considering all data I am currently leaning yes.

I'm curious where the majority lies.

As someone not voting ulti. I think at first glance it just looks like Ulti and you could go either way really but it's not until you really stare at it for a while do you start to lead yourself down a scum rabbit hole of his true intentions.

Unfortunately all the attention given to his first post has sent him into hiding so trying to actually determine if it is scum has become impossible.
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Meow1000 posted...

Ok yeah I'm going to be that guy.

Which guy is THAT guy?
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That's not healthy.
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Goddamn it gravy.
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Lopen posted...

His flavor was Master Miller, TOWN Miller, in my vision.

So you saw into the future to a MGS mafia game?
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