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| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 2:40:06 PM #48 | Also Red and FD, you guys owe me a League game after this fiasco. I used to watch Red stream Anivia games while FD tried to convince randoms to let him double jungle with them. It's time to bring back the memes. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 2:36:02 PM #41 | turbopuns2 posted... The one time I was scum and opted out of an extra kill, the player who would have otherwise been killed ended up catching our blocker like 6 nights later and is undeniably the reason we lost. I mean this kinda happened this game. We opted out of our extra kill on Jailkeeper. And because of it we got stuck in a hard place where we chose not to kill the scanner who scanned our roleblocker. I don't think I woulda carried the game. But it certainly would have made things easier. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 2:31:32 PM #35 | Zach all of us have scum have been saying that FDs timing on the lawyer was a net bad play. >_> It was something we wanted to do eventually, but not at that time. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 2:17:37 PM #23 | I'll believe you now Puns, but I won't change my MVP vote. :P --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 2:07:31 PM #19 | Yeah. I agree that I don't think FD tipped his hand that early. I do think FD failed to recover later on when he knew he had to contribute to get the pressure off him. But at the very beginning I can believe that wasn't scum influenced. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 2:01:49 PM #14 | I just like to try and keep people honest when it comes to results oriented decision making. An action even with a good result can still be a bad action. An action with a bad result can still be a good action. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 1:59:14 PM #11 | Also, in retrospect I totally should have claimed Bus Driver. May have actually saved me. But FD thought Scare had soft claimed that his actions had been driven and I thought it was too risky claiming with possible bad info. Should have just taken the risk! Our janitor role did nothing. Another missed opportunity on scum actions. (Though I did correctly read Plum as Town Power) --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 1:57:15 PM #9 | MVP 1. Corrik Hated his day 1 play until twilight where he started taking things seriously. Still not convinced he had me tagged as scum though. Can't deny he got the right picks though. Also used his role correctly and effectively to screen us over. Other than blustering day 1, he played well. 2. Tony The scum who tried. I think Tony needs a little experience on how to do night actions, and maybe not be so willing to counter claim a scum buddy which actively hurts us, but otherwise Tony is a player that I can see improving a lot. 3. Scare I think Scare actively scum hunted and provided valuable info to town all throughout the game. His tunneling on Crescent is a little wary, and he gave up a bit at the end, but I think Scare played a good game mostly. It was a tossup between Scare and Puns here, but I think I hand it to Scare for doing more with less. I still really hate Puns play onto Leo, even if it ended up right. If that was a play onto town, it would have been ridiculously bad. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 17 - Post Game. |
| EDumey 08/29/18 1:44:07 PM #4 | Was really just noting that of the very few people to actually state anything negative about me (Corrik, you, and Death) you actually seemed to flip on that. So I was doing pretty well on town perception until the scan. I do think maybe I gave up too quick on the Sheep scan and started scum spamming to waste town's time. Which Scare rightly called me out for. But I genuinely think there was zero way I was turning that lynch that day. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia Topic 16: Everybody...hurts... |
| EDumey 08/29/18 1:28:21 PM #494 | Whew. This game was difficult to play. The whole time was spent trying to claw my way out of a hole. Zam suiciding. FD lawyering our extra kill when we knew Jailkeeper was on the table. Leo giving up is what allowed that. Red and FD both not playing a large majority of the game. Tony's counter claim neutered my roleblocking because of tracker fear (and then he ironically dies to tracker claim). I don't know if Sheep would have scanned me if I hadn't put myself on the edge saving Red, when I'm not sure that was even a deserved play to risk. Team convinced me to not roleblocking Sheep even though we definitely should have, because in hindsight, he was never going to scan Red. That was always a bad play. Congrats to Town for not trusting the lawyer and winning that way, but our scumteam (me included) definitely played our actions awful and shot ourselves in the foot at every given opportunity. Corrik, just curious if you actually had some read on me. You never posted any reasoning before you died, and I feel like I'm arrogant as town and would have interacted that way with you as Town as well. In fact, my whole day 1 I was pretty proud of playing from town perspective. I normally am not that willing to bus. It was just coincidence that Leo was the first conversation starter that I jumped to him. I just feel like it's confirmation bias that Puns and Corrik are saying they were right about me, when both never said anything day 1. I was actually pretty strongly on multiple people's town list (including Puns) before the scan came out. Just one more frustration that I died to a scan with no one willing to even consider looking elsewhere. Feels like my actual play in game was largely pointless if I got scanned because I was correctly playing as a null tell player. Also I still am frustrated with Crescent for the way she read posts from me post scan. I legitimately got my vote ninja'd by Puns by less than a minute and she said I was bandwagoning to try and save myself. Such a silly thing to try and pin me down on. Just looking for any reason to make herself feel better about lynching me. Even if the result ended with me as scum, it was still very poor logic. When people then brag the next day about being right it's just annoying. Anyway, I'll probably sign as replace in future games. But I will note I didn't lie about my activity. I genuinely can't play during the mornings. That wasn't scum lurking! --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man |
| EDumey 08/20/18 1:41:55 PM #208 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia Topic 11: All Star |
| EDumey 08/15/18 2:53:25 AM #11 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 4:37:43 PM #280 | I didn't even think of a Framer before hand. While at first I like the idea of entertaining a framer because it's a way for town to not lynch me and test. Now I just feel like you're setting up an excuse to not retaliatory lynch Sheep. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 3:26:19 PM #274 | Also, as much as the framer talk could be a potential explanation, I still think the circumstances of Sheep's claim are suspect. Even with that idea on the table I'd lean to Sheep being scum. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 3:17:50 PM #270 | ScareChan posted... I was buying dumey as town until he started begging Tbf I stated I was pretty demoralized. Do you think you honestly would have supported a Sultan lynch instead if I played straight? Crescent annoyed me and I got a little too caught up in being obnoxious. >_> --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:51:39 PM #256 | red13n posted... EDumey posted...Also hi Han. Remember when you were roommates with my good buddy Josh Schake, and I'll tell him you were being rude to me if you don't help a brother out? I mean, hopefully Chris can tell it's obviously facetious. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:39:10 PM #246 | TheSultanOfSlam posted... EDumey posted...Crescent-Moon posted...Mm, I'm sleepy Sorry, I should have put lol at the end so you could understand. But wait, you put lol at the end of your statement, so maybe you were joking about it looking bad? :hmm: --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:26:56 PM #242 | Crescent-Moon posted... Mm, I'm sleepy Remember to vote Sultan before you go for a nap. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:20:52 PM #237 | TheSultanOfSlam posted... I still think red or dumey as our lynch today unless you lynch me then I guess I'm shot outta luck and when I flip tow. Alot of you will feel kind of dumb but hey do what you want Crescent, is this a better defense than mine? --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:15:32 PM #233 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:13:18 PM #231 | TheSultanOfSlam posted... These make me wanna lynch you even more dumey As if you're posting anything else. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:07:29 PM #230 | Also hi Han. Remember when you were roommates with my good buddy Josh Schake, and I'll tell him you were being rude to me if you don't help a brother out? Yeah that's right. We're moving on to blackmail. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:06:31 PM #225 | I'm too tired to keep this going, and my break at work is up. Good luck, friends. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:05:30 PM #223 | Hey Crescent, remember when we had that spat like 30 minutes ago and I didn't sarcastically ask for forgiveness? Help a brother in need. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:04:47 PM #222 | Hey Scare, remember when on day 2 you said if Panthera flipped town, we should lynch Sultan. Help a brother out. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 2:04:11 PM #221 | Hey Puns, remember when we played Newbie Mafia literally seven years ago and it was you versus me in a room full of easily manipulated newbies and I crushed you and was the better player at the time? Help a brother out. (Also hey Puns, remember that moment I was taking a trip down nostalgia lane literally in this same post and wasn't actually being serious about being better than you for the sake of a joke? Also you're already on my preferred vote target so this whole post is a waste. Still, help a brother out.) --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:59:45 PM #220 | Oh. To be fair I also misunderstood you. Thought you were talking about me. Me and Tange on the same wavelength here. Hey Tange, remember in Spartacus Mafia when we lost as town because you didn't trust my reads and we trusted power roles too much instead? Help a brother out. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:36:45 PM #213 | htaeD posted... Nevertheless, the odds of hitting scumRB right now might as well be infinitesimal. I'd wager at least 0% --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:26:38 PM #206 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:22:26 PM #201 | That's only because explaining why your scan looks false is a necessity if I want other town to believe me. 100% of my reason for thinking you're scum is because you false scanned me. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:17:47 PM #196 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:17:14 PM #194 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:16:31 PM #193 | HanOfTheNekos posted... Dumey, I promise I will read your thoughts on all players if you flip Town :) Rude. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:16:03 PM #192 | Also since death quoted that Sheep post, I'll mention that 100% of my argument against Sheep is that he false scanned me. Done. Simple and easy. The Meta about roleblocking and how Sheep ties into Sultan is all about an argument for Sultan being scum. Let's be a little humble, Sheep. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:12:13 PM #185 | Oh sure, Scare. That's a solid one right there. Forgive me. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 1:07:55 PM #183 | I'm not nearly as emotional as Leo got. I'm actually pretty calm. I gave a list of all players in order. I gave extensive Meta on Sheep. I explained Sultan. I've talked about other players. The only reason I'm being testy right now is I think you trying to discredit me is adding insult to injury. As if you've done anything of note either. Crescent you've crusaded for inactives this game and commented on random questions. I'm not calling you scum for this, but you don't exactly have a high horse to fling dung from. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 12:52:30 PM #171 | "prevent you from scumhunting" And I'm not even on the counter vote for Sheep right now. Like damn, what is the point of trying if people will slander you like this. HanOfTheNekos posted... Regardless Dumey - we're going with the Scum scan. Like I said, can't blame you. You guys have plenty to go off of when I flip. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 12:48:39 PM #168 | Crescent-Moon posted... HanOfTheNekos posted...Crescent-Moon posted...Dumey was -4 or -5 or something with close to 24 hours left in the day. To me, that's too early to cop out and go for self-preservation. Like this just looks like trying to discredit me so hard when not even necessary. Please go read my posts again. I gave plenty of reasoning for wanting to go for Sultan. I consistently wanted Sultan yesterday when everyone else was idling out for Red. I'm not just bailing out. Why do you get a real life excuse but conveniently ignore my CONSISTENT availability of not posting in the morning? --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 12:45:49 PM #167 | I think it's unfair to say that I'm just jumping at an opportunity that Puns gave me. My vote got ninja'd by his, and I have plenty of reasoning for my theory is that series of posts. Sheep misinterpreted me and I even clarified a little later, so you have to be intentionally making me look bad to go with that logic. Honestly I'm a bit demoralized. I've already explained all the ways Sheep's claim was fishy. I've put out thoughts on players. I've given a different VIABLE lynch target. I can't even get mad that town wants to play safe and lynch the guilty scan rather than go through night and see if it resolves. It's probably the right play. I might just bow out here and post very little, as keeping up with the game at work is tough. I've explained pretty much every day that I don't get to post in the mornings, yet Han is saying I'm inactive again, after posting a good amount last night. What has Han done today in comparison other than coast on the scan? My last thought is regarding confirms. If Sheep is confident enough to suicide for me here, possibly using janitor role to do so, then that makes me think there's at least one scum in the pile of people everyone is taking for granted. Tony is like 99% confirmed by the counter, but not 100% by role. FD should be 100% confirmed, but you guys have literally posted about being burned by scum mayor before. Puns thinks he's above law, but he is not confirmed. He sounded like he was bragging earlier when he said I was the first to suspect him (despite putting him high on my trust list and I was just responding to a question). A lot of people are feeding into Zach for a Day 1 Zam lynch, but he's nowhere near confirmed. After the flip today, at least consider them. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 10: Carry On |
| EDumey 08/13/18 12:11:23 AM #64 | I completely forgot about the janitor. That makes Sheep claiming cop uncontested that much more likely. And there's no reason why scum wouldn't get the janitored role. That's the whole purpose of the role, to conceal that info from town. People were meta-ing Chris's flavor that said no one knows his role. I think assuming scum doesn't know is dumb. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 7:43:16 PM #423 | ColZach posted... I mean...we got Alakazam on some dumb s*** like that lol to be fair, i think there's a difference between someone slipping up two people's names when talking about reads/content, and responding directly to someone in topic with the wrong name. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 7:14:15 PM #404 | At this stage of the game, it's not about what roles they have and whether or not they can get caught by scanners that make cop useful. It's about how many players can a cop confirm as town. Watcher can't do that. Blocking cop is 100% a more valuable play than Watcher. It's not even debatable. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 6:44:23 PM #386 | |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 6:37:20 PM #381 | EDumey posted... What's the town benefit of Sheep's claim there? All he did was make himself susceptible to night actions by scum, and that didn't even happen. Definitely odd. At this stage of the game, uncountered Cop even just scanning multiple members innocent is dangerous for scum even if he never hits a guilty scan. I don't see a world where someone like Tony is prioritized over Sheep for a roleblock.EDumey posted... Why would scum roleblock Sultan instead of Sheep? Maybe it's a null tell if Sultan ends up town. Eaed is obviously a more powerful protective role. But leaving up a cop scan is so bad. If they're both scum, then they use their roleblock on the only claimed investigative role (Tony), claim Sultan is blocked so the Eaed kill goes by unquestioned, and have a tough sell with Sheep. EDumey posted... ##Unvote Basically, the argument was that if you're town and Sultan is scum, then roleblocking Tony over you is bad play. If you're scum and Sultan is scum, then roleblocking Tony makes sense. If you're scum and Sultan is town, then roleblocking Sultan (Eaed jails Tony?) makes sense. The only way I can make sense of the roleblock situation is if you're scum, and Sultan being scum makes it easier because then we don't assume Eaed roleblocked town investigative power. It is the most likely scenario to me. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 6:22:13 PM #362 | turbopuns2 posted... benjamin3740 posted...Also never following Puns onto a lynch again :^) isnt b8 special only D1? i seem to remember arguments about this in the past --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 6:21:19 PM #361 | Sheep007 posted... Second of all, Dumey's argument is that Sultan would have been blocked by Scum instead of me? I don't have a bloody clue where the concept of two scum blockers or whatever has come from, given there's been literally no indication of it thus far, and the likelihood he's either lying through his teeth or Eaed jailed him is really high. Dumey's somehow attempting to make it look like if he's scum him lying is bad on me? That's utter tripe. First off, you're lying about what I've said. Sultan claimed he was blocked. If he's town and scum want to kill Eaed, then sure he gets blocked here. But blocked over you is silly. Second, Tony and Sultan have both been blocked, where you haven't. Two blocks on the table. Misrepresenting data is wrong. You seem to be implying here that you know Sultan is scum and lied about his block. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 5:54:40 PM #334 | I need to grab something to eat. Probably be gone 30-40 minutes. Not disappearing. --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 5:49:44 PM #331 | benjamin3740 posted... Mzero, Tange - Honestly I had no real read on them before the scans were revealed, and I have not even bothered having thoughts on them other than "Town for now, unless Godfather" ever since Sheep announced the innocent scans. Work with me here on a hypothetical. If/when Sheep flips scum, how do you approach MZero/Tange? Do you think Sheep mentions one of them as a scumbuddy or lists two town hoping town mislynches onto one of them after his flip? --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 5:41:24 PM #316 | turbopuns2 posted... EDumey posted...Maybe I'm biased because I know the scan on me is false, but the more I look at this situation, the more I find wrong with it. hah. I was willing to give it a pass yesterday. But with the extra info today, it looks "more wrong" --- |
| Topic | Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party.... |
| EDumey 08/12/18 5:39:35 PM #314 | |
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