Lurker > _Rinku_

I saw a recent picture of him; he's put on some weight and has noticeable grey in his hair. I guess if you're into that, he's alright.

He was kind of handsome when he started out. Reminded me of a guy I knew in high school.

LordMarshal posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

LordMarshal posted...

I was over it a year ago yet your still crying and no one cares about your complaints. Wonder how many millions of views hes getting today.

You seem pretty upset about it today. Getting millions of views doesn't excuse him being a bad person. Maybe you should go rewatch his video to soothe yourself.

Im not making a topic about it.

Neither am I.

Her voice actress is legally blind, iirc.

LordMarshal posted...

I was over it a year ago yet your still crying and no one cares about your complaints. Wonder how many millions of views hes getting today.

You seem pretty upset about it today. Getting millions of views doesn't excuse him being a bad person. Maybe you should go rewatch his video to soothe yourself.

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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

_BIueMonk posted...

hes a racist, uniformed piece of shit who sits on a couch and yells at his bird and TV about dumb video games. and he doesn't even do that anymore.

but loads of people praise him like hes the next jesus or something.

wtf

Holy shit it was well over a year ago, and he just is a guy not used to laying out an opinion. He is also Iranian himself and has been there, so even though he came off scramble brained, he probably has reason for his thoughts on immigration and it isn't just "duhhhr racism." That guy he debated later got embarrassed himself, but no one mentions that.

Yeah, just because something happened a long time ago doesn't make it okay.

The "apology" he put out was pretty insincere.

Youre so butthurt. Promote his video some more though.

Ooh, good insult.

JonTron is a racist bigot.

Seems irrelevant. Hes doing great. How about you?

Plenty relevant.

He's doing great, but he's still a racist bigot.

Why are you so upset about this?

LordMarshal posted...

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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

_BIueMonk posted...

hes a racist, uniformed piece of shit who sits on a couch and yells at his bird and TV about dumb video games. and he doesn't even do that anymore.

but loads of people praise him like hes the next jesus or something.

wtf

Holy shit it was well over a year ago, and he just is a guy not used to laying out an opinion. He is also Iranian himself and has been there, so even though he came off scramble brained, he probably has reason for his thoughts on immigration and it isn't just "duhhhr racism." That guy he debated later got embarrassed himself, but no one mentions that.

Yeah, just because something happened a long time ago doesn't make it okay.

The "apology" he put out was pretty insincere.

Youre so butthurt. Promote his video some more though.

Ooh, good insult.

JonTron is a racist bigot.

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

_BIueMonk posted...

hes a racist, uniformed piece of shit who sits on a couch and yells at his bird and TV about dumb video games. and he doesn't even do that anymore.

but loads of people praise him like hes the next jesus or something.

wtf

Holy shit it was well over a year ago, and he just is a guy not used to laying out an opinion. He is also Iranian himself and has been there, so even though he came off scramble brained, he probably has reason for his thoughts on immigration and it isn't just "duhhhr racism." That guy he debated later got embarrassed himself, but no one mentions that.

Yeah, just because something happened a long time ago doesn't make it okay.

The "apology" he put out was pretty insincere.

Some people really cling to the idea of separating the art from the artist.

I just don't personally think it's worth overlooking his alt-right ranting for the sake of some funny YouTube videos.

Zikten posted...

I never cared about him. Even before his controversy. Danny is way better than Jontron

I always felt the opposite, personally. That's why I quit watching GG.

Danny seems like a better person though.

I never really thought SU was that funny. I like it, but it's not super humorous.

I wonder if any of us actually play video games anymore.

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EliteLevel posted...

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EliteLevel posted...

Where the hell can you buy 3 meals a day that cheap?

That's $10/meal. That's a combo at most fast food restaurants.

Im so sorry humans have to resort to these.

You will pry my chalupa supreme from my cold, dead hands.

I think that's the coroners job when he needs to see how bad your heart is/was.

I like the idea that I die clutching a chalupa.

EliteLevel posted...

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EliteLevel posted...

Where the hell can you buy 3 meals a day that cheap?

That's $10/meal. That's a combo at most fast food restaurants.

Im so sorry humans have to resort to these.

You will pry my chalupa supreme from my cold, dead hands.

No_U_L7 posted...

EliteLevel posted...

Where the hell can you buy 3 meals a day that cheap?

i don't eat breakfast

But it's the most important meal of the day

EliteLevel posted...

Where the hell can you buy 3 meals a day that cheap?

That's $10/meal. That's a combo at most fast food restaurants.

Also, are we finally at the point where the universal option is the more politically popular one? I know that something like 2/3rds of Americans support universal healthcare (or at least one poll said so).

I might cry of happiness if that's true.

DarkTransient posted...

If it's means-tested, the dropoff must be quite slow and gradual, otherwise it incentivises people to stay below that point.

If you're receiving $150 in welfare a week, and your welfare gets cut off if you earn over $200, you're going to stop working once you hit $199 for the week so you still get that $150 topup. On the other hand, this incentive to stop mostly disappears if instead, it's something like "for every dollar you earn over $200, your welfare is reduced by 20c". The downside being of course, that it would take a LOT to reach the point at which the payment is zero, so this could get costly (using the same example figures, they'd have to earn $950 in a week before their welfare payment hits zero, although I'd assume in practice there'd be some direct cutoff point too to avoid messing around with really small payments - but this would have to either be quite low, or be somewhere beyond what anyone who qualifies for welfare would be likely to earn in a week anyway, or else the incentive to stop working comes back).

I agree with a lot of this.

What's the overhead for this like though? I'm sure it costs a lot of money to keep track of how much each person gets, to handle all these cases, to calculate the rates and their reductions, to handle edge cases, etc.

It seems like at some point it would be cheaper to just make it universal.

rikasa posted...

amen brother big toothpaste is a sccam

Fun fact: you don't need nearly as much toothpaste as they show in the commercials. Just a pea-sized dollop is more than enough. They always have a strip as long as the head in the commercials. It's a conspiracy to get you to waste toothpaste.

Also, protip: if you use mouthrinse, use literally anything but Listerine. It barely works.

Some friends and I watched it shortly after it came out. I think I was the only one paying attention, we shut it off halway through to go eat dinner, and never finished it.

I thought it was just... okay. Like, I'm happy for the guy since he was passionate about doing this, but I've never felt any desire to finish it.

I will say that it didn't seem as cringey as some of the Channel Awesome movies.

Well, as I understand it, tumblr doesn't really make much money in the first place.

Like, have you ever seen the ads on tumblr? They're nonsensical, and I doubt they made any money.

rikasa posted...

no, it means you walked into the wrong bathroom, and instead of taking in the information around you (there's women, no urinals, and leftists call themselves leftists) you just told everyone else they're the wrong ones and need to get out

Not what happened here, but okay.

Conflict posted...

A while

And they're alright. They're about the same quality as Checkers fries. Crispy and insanely average

I really like Checkers fries. At least, the frozen ones you can get at the grocery store are really good.

rikasa posted...

i don't think you understand the metaphor but you can explain it to me if you think I'm wrong

Well, women are in the women's bathroom because they feel like they belong there. That's analogous to self-identifying as a leftist, which I have said numerous times I was fine with.

KStateKing17 posted...

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It's literally his dead mother's, whom he is sort of a reincarnation of, outfit.

That makes Steven a Cubone :)

Awww. :)

...

Aw. :(

shockthemonkey posted...

Dont say leftist because it makes me think of the alt right for some reason. Try using a phrase they came up with instead.

@_Rinku_ the fuck dude?

I've explained why I don't like leftist as a label for others.

I've conceded that I shouldn't use alt-left.

rikasa posted...

rinku the type of dude to walk into the women's bathroom and start screaming at them because they're in the wrong bathroom.

What a weird thing to say and not really in line with the fact that I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

Conflict posted...

Alt-left isn't even a real thing

Alt-right originated from extremist right-wingers calling themselves that. There's no left-wing equivalent of that

Yeah, like I said, it's not a thing the same way the alt-right is.

I didn't know it was a name they came up with themselves. That reminds me of a story I heard about how the Proud Boys came up with their name: it was an "ironic" response to a cut song from Disney's Aladdin. This sounds mean, but god that's just pathetic.

AdviceMan posted...

I don't have any. I used to call them liberals like myself but they insisted they are not. Any other term I can use other than progressive which is not particularly descriptive is used quite commonly by the alt right to describe them. I'm not going to allow people I find objectionable to force me to stop using words.

I'd honestly say leftist or far-left are the only non-deragatoryvway of referring to them. And yes, I am aware the far right uses those words as insults but the far right uses things like feelings, empathy, and concern for the vulnerable as insults., So fuck em.

Bold for emphasis: you're so right on this.

rikasa posted...

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I'm really not.

I know, you're just spending the morning defending your misunderstanding because you're not strong enough to correct yourself and instead resort to cognitive dissonance and other forms of denial while everyone laughs at you and loses respect

I'm not doing any of that. I'm being sincere in what I say.

Conflict posted...

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I'm not fond of the phrase. Tell me of alternatives you have for the extreme left.

Extreme left

Okay, if you guys think "alt-left" has a negative enough connotation, I'll use "extreme left" instead. I didn't realize people felt this strongly about it, but I'm glad to know now.

rikasa posted...

he's just setting up for the "i was trolling all along" line soon. there's no way this "alt-left" argument is genuine

I'm really not.

The "alt-left" doesn't really exist in the same way the alt-right does, but it seems like the least hypocritical way to describe a extremist who leans left.

Seriously guys, tell me what alternatives you guys use? "SJW" seems to be a go to, but I've explained my reservations about that one.

AdviceMan posted...

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Extremely left = alt-left

...alt left is literally an alt right phrase in an attempt to coopt and point out supposed hypocrisy, and delegitimize left views

i think we r finished here

@AdviceMan

I'm not fond of the phrase. Tell me of alternatives you have for the extreme left.

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Extremely left = alt-left

...alt left is literally an alt right phrase in an attempt to coopt and point out supposed hypocrisy, and delegitimize left views

i think we r finished here

It only seems fair to describe the extreme left as "alt-left" if I describe the extreme right as "alt-right." It'd be hypocritical otherwise. There's not really a good word to describe the extreme left other than that. At least not one that I can think of.

Hairistotle posted...

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It's not a misunderstanding. It is literally impossible for me to be the only person that views the word this way.

You are reclaiming it. That's noble, man. I can't do it though.

it is telling that u have resorted to duplicitous tactics at least

Hair, you're gaslighting at this point, and that's really disappointing.

Look, I do respect that you use the label for yourself. That's great.

There literally are people that use it as an insult. These people almost always fall into a particular group.

Hell yeah, french fry pizza, here I come.

AdviceMan posted...

How do you refer to people more left than the average liberal Rinku?

I suppose that depends on how far left they lean.

Slightly to moderately more left = probably still just call them liberals

Extremely left = alt-left (this is what I'd call PETA, for example)

That's just what I might use. As I said before, I have used SJW before, but I try not to because of the connotation.

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

The only person who should be ashamed is you for not giving Zombieland Saga a chance. :P

I'm not the only one in the world who is aware of that connotation. If you want to reclaim the word and self-identify that way, great! I'm not there yet though

theres no awareness here it's a simple misinterpretation on ur part

there is no reclamation, it has not been reappropriated. ur commitment to ur incorrect notion is admirable

It's not a misunderstanding. It is literally impossible for me to be the only person that views the word this way.

You are reclaiming it. That's noble, man. I can't do it though.

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

The fact that you guys see this as something where someone needs to feel ashamed is unhealthy. You can have disagreements with people you respect. It's not a zero sum game.

i merely admitted his argument has credence

_Rinku_ posted...

Again, describing yourself as something has a different connotation than someone labeling you with that term.

I'd hesitate to call myself a leftist even though my beliefs lean heavily left because of the connotation it has

u are the only one here who sees such a connotation. u have allowed the alt right to control how u think if anything

The only person who should be ashamed is you for not giving Zombieland Saga a chance. :P

I'm not the only one in the world who is aware of that connotation. If you want to reclaim the word and self-identify that way, great! I'm not there yet though.

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MC_BatCommander posted...

Why are people still going nuts on JonTron a whole year later? He came out pretty quickly after that whole debacle and clearly regretted his statements, he was on the H3 podcast recently and restated his regret for what he said.

He has stayed out of that kind of discussion entirely since then as well, as far as I know. How much does he have to do before people stop holding it against him?

https://imgur.com/QriJbkr
he was still retweeting white nationalist propaganda as of a few days ago. why are people always so desperate to outright lie just to defend racists?

Jontron really thinks hes white lmao

He's white-passing, if nothing else. If I didn't know his last name was "Jafari," I never would have assumed he was anything other than white.

rikasa posted...

It's so obvious and hilarious that his anger against brown people coming into america and impregnating white women is because that's exactly what his dad did.

There was a post I saw years ago that some "Internet detective" had cobbled together on JonTron. The tl;dr was that his dad was probably really abusive, so this could be his way of lashing out against his father.

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

People should stop watching jontron because he isn't funny.

JonTron was pretty funny. I haven't watched any of his stuff since the whole Destiny thing.

Scott the Woz has a very similar style and uploads very consistently. Check him out.

Hairistotle posted...

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"Leftist" is typically an alt-right word

how did u come to this conclusion

alt right ppl constantly throw around the word liberal but it has more contexts than the alt right pejorative

like r u 4 real my man

I see it used primarily by alt-right people in a clearly insulting manner. There's not exactly a textbook that lays out this stuff.

Liberal has multiple uses, but "leftist" is almost always used as an insult.

I am very real, my man.

but u gotta understand that just because that's all u see, that's not all that is

It's a legitimate term and used by ppl like myself to describe our views and it has not been coopted - its more like an attempted pejorative like 'liberal' is and even then that does not delegitimatize the term on its own

Again, describing yourself as something has a different connotation than someone labeling you with that term.

I'd hesitate to call myself a leftist even though my beliefs lean heavily left because of the connotation it has.

CruelBuffalo posted...

I think you should go on Twitter. Because youll get people closer to the socialism side of the spectrum PREFERRING to use the term leftist because they (socialist side) have been using liberal as an insult to anyone seen as compromising with the right

I have gotten on twitter (largely due to some changes on tumblr), and I just really haven't seen this as a trend yet. I mostly follow YouTubers and artists though.

Conflict posted...

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I'm not ashamed.

"Leftist" is typically an alt-right word. Balrog obviously isn't alt-right, and that's why I thought it was so weird that he used it.

It really isn't an alt-right word

If he said "SJW" then it'd be a different story but idk he's just describing people on the left

I disagree on that. As I mentioned in another post, I primarily see it used by the alt-right as an insult.

SJW is a similar word. I'd call myself an SJW (in that I'm intensely liberal and progressive), but I know that I've thrown out SJW as an insult before. I really shouldn't because it's a bad looks/makes me look alt-right.

Hairistotle posted...

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Hairistotle posted...

why is he even ashamed and humiliated

Well, he was wrong. He revealed to us that his worldview is extremely limited and his interactions with like-minded humans are scarce. It's embarrassing. He already said he respected blargo and I do too so it's even more shameful to lower yourself in the eyes of someone like that.

fair enough

The fact that you guys see this as something where someone needs to feel ashamed is unhealthy. You can have disagreements with people you respect. It's not a zero sum game.

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

"Leftist" is typically an alt-right word

how did u come to this conclusion

alt right ppl constantly throw around the word liberal but it has more contexts than the alt right pejorative

like r u 4 real my man

I see it used primarily by alt-right people in a clearly insulting manner. There's not exactly a textbook that lays out this stuff.

Liberal has multiple uses, but "leftist" is almost always used as an insult.

I am very real, my man.

I'm not ashamed.

"Leftist" is typically an alt-right word. Balrog obviously isn't alt-right, and that's why I thought it was so weird that he used it.

Hairistotle posted...

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That's cute. The old, "Haha, I'm not even invested in this, how silly."

it was a very passive post, hows that lost on u

@Trickfinger i completely see wat u mean haha

It's basically "Haha twas but an act."

Esrac posted...

You jumped all over his shit because he used a term you didn't approve of or otherwise associate too uniquely to the alt-right, "warning" him that it makes him look like he falls into a far right political group, and when he and other people don't fold over for you, you say he's the one pitching a fit.

What?

Is this what they call gaslighting? Because this looks to me like what they call gaslighting.

Jumped on him? Hardly.

You're just fear-mongering here.

Reis posted...

somehow in this exchange balrog is throwing a fit, and not the person who vehemently insists that he is

Being told something looks bad and then immediately saying, "Nuh uh," is throwing a fit.

Hairistotle posted...

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You are though, and so did Balrog. It's surprising for him though.

u can say it as often as u like it's just untrue. doesnt matter whether u think so or not

You're having such a fit over it that you can't even type properly.

s0nicfan posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

No, you're the one being ridiculous here. I'm not surprised or even disappointed. I just wish people like you would at least pretend to be intellectually honest and realize that context is important.

Did you apply context in considering Balrog's posting history before calling him out for using a word that implies (according to you) he isn't a sensible person?

I literally did in my first post addressing it.

Balrog0 posted...

usually when I'm accused of pitching a fit it's at least in something I'm emotionally invested in even if I don't feel like I've pitched a fit, in this case I honestly don't care except that I'm being told I'm pitching a fit

weird feeling

That's cute. The old, "Haha, I'm not even invested in this, how silly."

Hairistotle posted...

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Esrac posted...

Now you're just being ridiculous.

The terms "leftist" and "SJW" have common usage outside alt-right circles. You're either underestimating the usage of these terms or overestimating how many people who use these terms constitute the alt-right.

Liberal has long been used as an insulting buzzword by conservatives too.

No, you're the one being ridiculous here. I'm not surprised or even disappointed. I just wish people like you would at least pretend to be intellectually honest and realize that context is important.

"everyone else is wrong. not me - i'm far too smart"

You refuse to acknowledge that the context in which words are said is important. You are wrong in that regard.

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Literally pitching a fit lmao

just saying pitching a fit doesnt make it so tho

You are though, and so did Balrog. It's surprising for him though.

Esrac posted...

Now you're just being ridiculous.

The terms "leftist" and "SJW" have common usage outside alt-right circles. You're either underestimating the usage of these terms or overestimating how many people who use these terms constitute the alt-right.

Liberal has long been used as an insulting buzzword by conservatives too.

No, you're the one being ridiculous here. I'm not surprised or even disappointed. I just wish people like you would at least pretend to be intellectually honest and realize that context is important.

s0nicfan posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Liberal probably would have worked fine. It's not really an alt-right buzzword the way "leftist" or even "SJW" are.

So you're honestly saying that if he said this instead:

idk what this is about but it is weird to me how much mileage liberals think they can get out of that 'racism is a new concept' thing when all it really says is the incredibly obvious revelation that we only started to understand racism in modern biological terms when we started to get modern biological terms

You wouldn't have gotten on his case?

Not for the reason I did, no. I'd think it was weird since he's more liberal leaning, but it's not nearly the dogwhistle that "leftist" is.

rikasa posted...

exactly this but about you

I'm not the one pitching a fit; that's Balrog. He got told that something looked bad and then cried about it.

Balrog, you normally seem like a reasonable person. I'm just telling you that if you use a word associated with the alt-right, people are going to think you fall in that camp.

Hairistotle posted...

dude how is balrog being outraged or dramatic r u for real??

Hairistotle posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Are you?

nope, stone cold sober. your posts reek of pot-stirring. otherwise ur just a dummy

Literally pitching a fit lmao

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Balrog0 posted...

... why?

You seemed like a sensible person who didn't use alt-right vocabulary like that.

The alt-right doesn't own that terminology, dude.

They don't own it, but they use it way more frequently than any other group, dude.

That term has been common in political discourse since well before the alt-right had any traction.

You're being a little ridiculous in your attempts to police his language with some weird guilt by association.

It may have been common, but it's been co-opted by a particular movement. If you want to live in ignorance about it, go ahead.

Hairistotle posted...

rinku r u high

Are you?

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Guide posted...

And incels don't own femoid, but you're still gonna doubletake when someone you don't think is an incel uses it in earnest.

except leftists literally call themselves leftists

And there's a big difference between someone self-identifying as a leftist versus someone else calling them a leftist. One is clearly meant to be an insult.

Compare it to the reclamation of "queer."

seems like you're being a bit histrionic here if you're comparing the term leftists to queer imo

You're the only dramatic one here, Balrog. You can compare two terms without saying they're exactly the same. This is another weird, alt-right tactic you're employing.

If you don't want to appear to be something you're not, don't use dogwhistles like that. Your outrage over being told that it's a bad look is eye-opening.

s0nicfan posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

And there's a big difference between someone self-identifying as a leftist versus someone else calling them a leftist. One is clearly meant to be an insult.

Out of curiosity, what word(s) do you think Balrog should have used instead?

Liberal probably would have worked fine. It's not really an alt-right buzzword the way "leftist" or even "SJW" are.

im not 13 posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

I know not to wake someone who needs to sleep just because my dick is hard.

Why do you assume it's just a male thing to do?

Your partner is there to satisfy you sexually. There is nothing wrong with wanting sex and trying to get it

_Rinku_ posted...

And it'd be rude and immature if she woke you up for that like TC woke his wife.

Not complicated, dude.

eggcorn posted...

And somehow you know that TCs wife wasn't into that before? People are different.

TC literally said it was a no-go.

Balrog0 posted...

Guide posted...

And incels don't own femoid, but you're still gonna doubletake when someone you don't think is an incel uses it in earnest.

except leftists literally call themselves leftists

And there's a big difference between someone self-identifying as a leftist versus someone else calling them a leftist. One is clearly meant to be an insult.

Compare it to the reclamation of "queer."