Lurker > 135

DracoSpire posted...

You have this backassward idea that all women have this extreme standard for men where they only have interest in the 0.1% of men who are absolutely perfect in every conceivable way. I don't think you really understand how women, let alone how human beings, think if you believe this.

lol what? stop putting words in my mouth, i didn't make any blanket statements. Please go

Most attractive women with plenty of suitors generally date equally good looking guys. (at least here in the united states). I rarely see mismatched couples contrary to what people say. If you are a 4/10, good luck dating a 9/10 because chances are, that 9/10 girl also has plenty of good looking suitors.

And now you just went completely back on your previous point where I said how ridiculous the idea that "women have it easy" is, which you said was true.

they do have it easy since their SMV is higher than guys. A woman won't have a shortage of men willing to sleep with her regardless of how ugly she is. I for one have standards though, but most guys generally don't.

Shuto-uke posted...

DavidWong posted...

Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?

You people are such betas.

So you are a nice, decent, good looking guy with a good job, so.... join the queue. You're nothing special and you gotta be some special peacock to stand out and get a girl.

Fair enough. This girl has nice boobs. What else does she have to offer? It goes both ways. Stop being so submissive, this is why y'all are so thirsty

lmfao it doesn't go both ways. Women choose us, we don't choose them.

a 4/10 woman can just make a tinder account and have hundreds of chads to pick from, just like ordering pizza and a coke. You can't do the same thing with a 4/10 guy. A woman's sexual market value especially in the smart phone, internet, social media era has skyrocketed and they are more hypergamous than ever before. The only dudes who choose are celebrities, rich guys, and turbochads(legit good looking guys)

so no, it doesn't go both ways. Women are the choosers. ANd just because i acknowledge that they are the choosers doesn't mean guys should supplicate to them by being submissive. Stop assuming.

DracoSpire posted...

Maybe that might be the case for hooking up, but when you're trying to find someone to start a relationship with, it's not some battleground with 100 men all fighting to the death for 1 woman like you believe it is.

yes it is, especially if she's attractive. In order for a woman to consider your personality or other redeeming qualities, the woman has to be attracted first in a non platonic way. If she's not, you will just be in the friend zone.

DracoSpire posted...

Believe it or not, men who are looking for a relationship actually value more than looks. Do you seriously think that all it takes for a woman to find a significant other (that isn't extremely desperate and pathetic) is to exist and not need any other redeeming qualities? If so, then you clearly don't know a single thing about how relationships work, as that is an incredibly stupid mentality to have.

Same concept as I said above. If i'm not physically attracted to the woman, i can are less about her personality. I want both looks and personality and i'm sure i speak on behalf of men with actual standards and self respect.

from my point of view, i rarely see mismatched couples anyway. Most couples are within their looksmatch. Lucky for me, i'm good looking (extremely fit w/ pretty boy facial aesthetics)

Kazi1212 posted...

HellsingOrg posted...

>reads Reddit
lmao

I been reading theredpill for like the past 30 minutes, honestly sounds like a lot of those topics are just fake stories, it just fits their narrative a little to perfectly for it to be real imo. Also, contrary what 135 said, the vocabulary from the PUA community is totally interchangeable with the redpill community

TRP=/=PUA

PUA focuses on behavior(confidence and behavior) and nothing else. TRP in the context of seduction focuses more on LMS(looksmaxing, moneymaxing, statusmaxing and acknowledging that women have preferences).

one is real, and the other is psuedo science.

PUA is more closer to other incel communities such as MGTOW/LOOKISM/etc so please don't get us red pillers twisted with any incel communities or any psuedo science communities(PUA). People who assiacate the red pill community to incels is speaking out of 100% ignorance.

DracoSpire posted...

ssj-kenobi posted...

tbh in the dating world, girls are literally the jobs/employers

dudes are the jobseeker. and y'all know how the job market can be especially when for every job you could be having 100 applicants lmao.

there is a reason why all of a sudden other girls start being into you more when it's known you have a gf. but then when you are single, you are really and heavily single af XD. it's always the same cycle for me, when I'm single no one has the slightest interest in me whatsoever and I have to try harder. then all of a sudden when I'm either actively pursuing a girl or am currently with one then other girls start contacting and flirting with me and shit. it's pretty annoying lol.

I cannot go without cringing seeing these "Women have it easy!" filth like this.

it's true especially if the girl is attractive.

pinky0926 posted...

If only the red pill stuck to "looks and being financially solvent and having self respect are important, work on those". I can agree with that bit. Instead it extends to top tips on how to trick women into sleeping with you by breaking down their self esteem, treating them like actual objects (hamsters, plates, etc) and generally being a fucking shit of a person, all for the purpose of sticking your dick in a hole without feeling emotionally compromised.

Some of the stuff that gets passed off as gospel advice there is borderline psychopath behaviour.

This always happens in these discussions, btw. Red piller comes in and goes "nah man you just don't understand, the red pill is just about being a better person and seeing the world how it is, it's not about hating women." Meanwhile on TRP 500 users having an animated discussion about how to mess with the emotions of a hamster and how to keep 14 plates spinning at the same time while being dishonest to all of them.

i beg your pardon? none of what you said is remotely close to the red pill in the context of seduction. NONE

you have red pill confused with PUA

Ratchet and clank sounds fun

pinky0926 posted...

*rolls eyes very dramatically*

1) I did not say every reader of the red pill hates women, but I can bet you right now that I could find at least 10 very misogynistic posts right there on the front page of TRP in like 2 minutes without even trying. You have a community of people who have been historically rejected or hurt by women and a guidebook of ways to manipulate women to get what you want from them (usually sex), the misogyny is abound everywhere on there.

Weird, although i occasionally see misogynistic posts, it's no different than going to any other community. Are you sure you don't have "red pill" confused with the "incel" or "MGTOW" communities because those communities are notorious for misogyny.

There are plenty of guys who succeed with women who are red pilled as hell. I don't get where you are assocating "Red pill" to guys who struggle with women. You have red pill confused with the INCEL community.

yes, there are bad eggs in every community. For you to make ignorant generalizations is laughable.

dammit, broke my 28 hr fast just now with a protein shake

pinky0926 posted...

You don't need a misogynistic support group that encourages manipulation and sometimes downright rapey "tactics" to learn that having some self respect and looking after yourself is a useful way to become an attractive dating prospect.

that's a common misconception of red pill, that we are all misogynistic.

Red pill is really just acknowledging the harsh truth on how things work. In the context of picking up women, it comes down to your looks, money, and status(and location). There's nothing misogynistic about that. Acknowledging that attractive women are genereally hypergamous and want the most attractive guy is not misogyny, the same way i'm acknowledging that most good looking men generally want to date the hot girl.

ArchiePeck posted...

I'm just trying to get you to consider personal failings you may have that are the actual reason for you not being satisfied with certain areas of your life. If you seek external excuses to blame to make yourself feel better you'll never actually solve the problem.

lmfao wtf is this mental masturbation drivel? You sound like one of them PUA dorks LOL @ self blame. Seriously bro, you sound like a massive mangina with this drivel you posted.

ArchiePeck posted...

And that's the REAL red pill LOL

lmfao, oh man you thinking you know what "red pill" is, is an insult to people who are actually red pilled.

plz go

ArchiePeck posted...

Are you a blast at parties?

I generally get along with everyone I meet. That or i'm at least cordial with everyone i meet.

ArchiePeck posted...

In fact, how often do you get invited to them?

i'm 30 years old with actual responsibilities. I can give a fuck less if i get invited to them. Stop it with these idiotic condescending questions. You sound like a college kid pulling the "hurr urr u aint kewl if u don't get invited to parties" LOL

ArchiePeck posted...

If the answer is "not often" have you considered why and applied this same answer to your lack of success with women?

lmfao "success" with women is irrelevant since every guy gets preselected at different rates depending on how high or low your Looks, money, status is.

Success with women is not quantifiable measurement of anything. Only middle school idiots would make such assertion. Seriously, you sound like you're in fucking middle school LOLOLOL

what the fuck does my red pilled posts have anything to do with me being a "blast" at parties? You can still be red pilled and be confident, outgoing, and fun to be around.

SnakePlisken94 posted...

Like 2 hours or so.
Because of my thyroid issues i need to consume massive amounts of calories or else i rapidly lose weight

Feeling hungry 24/7 is not fun

you serious? how many cals you consume a day on average? and what's ur height weight?

i wish i could eat burgers, pizza, and ice cream and not get fat

ArchiePeck posted...

I'm curious, 135, what sort of sex life

this is 100% irrelevant. Every guy gets preselected by women at different rates based off of their looks, money, status, and location. I can tell you aren't red pilled for you to even ask this stupid question. And yes, WOMEN are the CHOOSERS.

ArchiePeck posted...

has this dismissive "women only think like this" attitude gotten you, while the rest of us have gotten on with our lives treating women as individual humans?

uh yes, especially in the western world where women are by default hypergamous. And no, if you are implying that i'm "misogynistic" that is far from the truth. Women just want to date the hot guys as much as men want to date the hot girls. Is that so difficult to understand?

bob742omb posted...

i'd say you're both right.

dating sites and dating apps really do focus on looks, on those sites you can be shallow and still get laid, and this applies to both men and women. or you could go out clubbing too. if you're attractive, yeah, you'll easily get laid through those methods.

well yeah, this is called open market dating. Otherwise, anything that is leveraged through wealth/status such as social circle is different.

but i think if you want to keep someone in the long term, you have to be interesting, like davidwong said. or at the very least, it'll help.

people are different though and it's hard to draw absolutes when it comes to these things.

long term only apply if the prerequisite are already met (the guy is good looking or has enough wealth/status to make up for it). If the prerequisite aren't met, the guy will just be put on the friend zone.

Irony posted...

Molly

this explains everything

3 days and not feeling hungry? rly? Lol

KobeSystem posted...

No girls were interested in me when I didn't take care of myself or my appearance at all

But then I groomed myself, got a haircut and the change was fucking nuts

And you're improved appearance gives confidence

No one looked twice at me when I had long hair and a ridiculous beard. Now the girl at the taco place is asking me where I work and my manager is telling me about some girl talking about how nice I look with my face all cleaned up.

All I can say is at least care about how you present yourself. Makes a world of difference and helps at least get your foot in the door

well yeah, looks are generally what matters the most. If the woman isn't attracted to the guy physically, but likes his personality=friend zone

you grooming yourself and getting a proper haircut probably gives you +1 or +2 points in your looks. You probably already had a good foundation in looks for them to compliment you

ArchiePeck posted...

135 posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

Staggeringly, females are varied individual people just like males, and there is no big secret agenda or gameplan they are conspiring to create.

Go out, socialise and meet new people regularly via hobbies or friends. There's no big puzzle to solve.

lol it's not this simple especially if the guy isn't good looking.

females are not varied. Most are attracted to looks, money, and status(at least in the western world dating)

I guess like my entire generation 15 years ago at college were just all super rich hunks that we all managed had normal sex lives and eventually found the right girl and got married. Every one of us was Brad Pitt LOL

social circle=situational status is being leveraged. Your example is absolute shit. Anything that is leveraged through LMS is not game.

what i'm talking about is OPEN MARKET DATING (app/online and cold approach pickup). Open market dating in the west is LMS based. If you aren't good looking, good luck getting a hot girl because hot girls are generally hypergamous due to plenty of suitors.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Girls date ugly guys all the time dude

status(social circle) or wealth is probably leveraged. That or they are looksmatched (ugly girl dates ugly guy, or fat guy dates equally fat girl). I rarely see a hot girl with an ugly dude unless wealth/status was leveraged or they met overseas(expat)

UnfairRepresent posted...

Have you ever been to college?

uh yes, the frat guys have situational status, so do the student athletes. Most hot girls are hypergamous, either a good looking guy or a high status guy(top house frat guy or student athlete)

ArchiePeck posted...

Staggeringly, females are varied individual people just like males, and there is no big secret agenda or gameplan they are conspiring to create.

Go out, socialise and meet new people regularly via hobbies or friends. There's no big puzzle to solve.

lol it's not this simple especially if the guy isn't good looking.

females are not varied. Most are attracted to looks, money, and status(at least in the western world dating)

red pill and seduction is quite simple

If you live in the western world, it's LMS based(looks, money, status). If you don't meet her LMS threshold, it's game over. A lot of PUA idiots will not acknowledge this unfortunately.

what red pill really means is, you are acknowledging the TRUTH(even though it's difficult for people to accept). It's really not complicated.

the bottom line is this, if the woman isn't attracted to the guy, no amount of "confidence" will matter. You can increase your LMS by getting a good job, looksmaxing, etc. that's where the red pill is self help.

DavidWong posted...

Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?

lmfao this is all inaccurate

the only thing that matter is looks. (presuming of course you aren't leveraging wealth/status)

i've seen my good looking friends with shitty jobs, shy, etc have girls throw themselves at them because of their looks. Shit, one guy doesn't even go out to bars/clubs, he's extremely shy and he gets girls thanks to tinder.

you don't have to put women on a pedestal or impress them because none of that will matter if the girl aint attracted to you

As in you consumed zero calories?

72 hours for me (3 days)

hardest part is the final couple of hours due to hunger.

what's the follow up on this? did the black guy get charged with battery?

neat

roos1046 Reborn posted...

all of your pets should be neutered

get an education about it and get a fucking clue

not mine

if you have an akc registered pure breed dog, it's stupid to neuter him.

TC probably has two mutts, so of course they have to be neutered

weird, i have a pure bred intact male GSD and he's pretty calm.

TC, u arent the master. that's probably why

Thor's no axe pierced through his chest and he lived it