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TopicLet's see what's going on at CPAC
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 3:51:45 PM
#26
Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/967240209732702208


At least they admit when he was elected in like, 09, it was simply because he was black and likely as a response to criticism they gave Obama to play the "WE'RE NOT RACIST, WE HAVE BLACK FRIENDS" card
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TopicTrump issues date for military parade.
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 12:16:47 PM
#52
Which third world countries are you referring to that does this on their "shit infrastructure"?
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TopicTrump issues date for military parade.
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 12:06:52 PM
#48
CEs_EFG posted...
gotta be a real dumbass to seriously believe this is going to destroy streets


If you parade military vehicles on roads they weren't built to accommodate, unlike places like France or Russia which specifically designed their roads FOR these parades, you're going to cause massive damage. This isn't rocket science
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TopicCNN didn't give kids scripted questions
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 10:45:42 AM
#25
Junkratprime03 posted...
Will right-wing hacks on this board apologize to both CNN and the victims of the shootings for pushing this narrative knowing full well it was false? Probably not. We have some particularly spineless people on this board.


Lmao come on man, we all know it doesn't matter when their narrative gets blown up, they believe it to be true and that's all that matters
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TopicTrump issues date for military parade.
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 10:13:02 AM
#27
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
0atmealcreampie posted...
The orange cheeto man is moving the nation backwards at light speed rates

Yup, nothing to do with this generation acting like little 5 year olds....nope, thats totally fine and doing no damage at all to this country. Nope, not at all.


Shift them goal posts
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TopicIs the NRA a hateful organization?
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 10:06:29 AM
#10
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
If comparing your political opponents to nazis makes you a hate group, Ive got bad news for every bitchy whiny liberal activist thats surfaced over the last few years.


1. The question was if it makes them hateful, not a hate group. These are different things, stop trying to convolute the issue.
2. I'd imagine you'd call those "liberal activists" as hateful people, correct?
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TopicTrump issues date for military parade.
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 9:59:21 AM
#20
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Wait, so this parade is a bad thing? Gotta keep up with which ones are good and which ones are bad.

So this one is bad, correct? Cool.


It's likely a complete waste of money while also potentially costing thousands of dollars in infrastructure damage depending on what they insist on doing, so yeah
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TopicWhen black people needed help, the NRA was there.
The Great Muta 22
02/24/18 8:19:18 AM
#79
Patchwork posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Who came to the aid of Josephine Byrd, when her housing project wouldn't allow her to own a gun for her protection? The NRA."


Who came to the defense of Philando Castile when he was killed for having a gun he owned legally?

Who came to the defense of Tamir Rice who was killed over a toy gun?

Who came to the defense of Walter Scott?

Not the NRA that's for sure

Philando Castille is the only one of those people who didn't deserve to die.


Tamir Rice deserved to die? What in the fuck?


He's clearly someone with a lot of anger inside of him in general, because normal people don't take joy out of and claim people deserve to die
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TopicWhen black people needed help, the NRA was there.
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 11:17:17 PM
#36
TopicBest Resident Evil
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 9:04:10 PM
#37
Code Veronica deserves more love because at the time it was awesome to finally play as Chris again.
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 6:09:58 PM
#111
Sephiroth1288 posted...
His definition of "hateful" encompasses every politician and advocacy group on the planet. I would call that a badly-explained reason.


Your definition of propaganda, much like many things for you, was objectively wrong. So I wouldn't be judging others definitions if I was you
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TopicTrump approval rating hits 50%; higher than Obama's at this point in 2nd term
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:43:48 PM
#38
darkjedilink posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
The Admiral posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
why not use a poll aggregator like 538 instead of the known biased Rasmussen ?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Because this one most accurately predicted the popular vote total in the last election.

538 takes that into account when assigning weight/value to the poll, doesn't it?

Apparently not, since they predicted a Clinton victory with 99 percent probability.


.....

Are you okay in the head?
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TopicTrump approval rating hits 50%; higher than Obama's at this point in 2nd term
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:43:32 PM
#36
darkjedilink posted...
_Near_ posted...
That's his most generous poll, though

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

538 said Clinton had a 99 percent chance of winning.


This is literally not true.
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:40:40 PM
#101
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Do you understand that you're supposed to be explaining that the NRA is hateful? If having a bias = hateful then you are calling yourself hateful. You've expressed a clear bias in this topic. Why are you hateful?


No, I said the videos were propaganda and that the NRA is a hateful group. You claimed they weren't propaganda nor were they hateful.

But yes, I am hateful towards the pieces of trash that lead the NRA. All it's members around the country aren't garbage, but the organization itself is rotten to the core.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
"clenched fist of truth". Miss that part?


Oh...okay but if that was the excuse, why did Dana come out and say "We said 'FISK THE NYTIMES', not 'fist'"?

And why call the NYT an "old gray hag" to begin with? Certainly seems pretty hateful to me
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:24:50 PM
#96
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Ok but that's not hateful though, it just means they have a bias.


Which, by definition, makes it propaganda. Thanks

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Fight them with truth.

Did you not watch that video?


What the hell does fist the NY Times mean?
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:21:11 PM
#94
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Oh ok so she didn't lie about anything and you can't name anything she said that's specifically hateful but the NRA is still hateful.

I think I understand a little better how your warped mind works.


It's amazing how people can say one thing and you simply respond to what you want them to have said. Propaganda doesn't have to be fake information. Likewise, as I've said, telling your enemies you're coming for them or that you need to take up arms to fight the violent leftists coming after you, or basically all of LaPierres speech yesterday where he spent his time calling people like Corey Booker a socialist(LMAO!), those are objectively hateful things.
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:13:55 PM
#90
Sephiroth1288 posted...
So what did she say that's misleading? Is Trump like Hitler? Are politicians not pushing for gun control?


Congrats Mal, you didn't even watch the video I posted nor did you read the definition of propaganda I posted.

Propaganda doesn't have to be misleading, just so you know.
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TopicAnti gunners are aware that ak/ar pistols exist, right?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:07:01 PM
#52
The Admiral posted...
Come on, now. Libs don't like people mentioning Islamic terrorism stats that start before September 12, 2001. It puts a big damper on their narrative.


Come on, now. When you talk about Islamic terrorism and specifically start at 2001 it becomes completely transparent what you're trying to do.
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TopicAnti gunners are aware that ak/ar pistols exist, right?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 5:04:45 PM
#49
darkjedilink posted...
We explain it until we're blue in the fucking face. The gun control crowd just chooses to call us babykillers.


I don't do that at all, nor should anyone. Nor should people attack and assume everyone calling for gun reform measures is a 'crazy gun grabbing liberal elitist!'.
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:58:45 PM
#87
DrunkenPilot72 posted...
That would be nice but sadly the system is so driven by lobbying that it would be impossible. Ideally campaign finance would be removed from the system but neither side would ever agree to that. Even if the NRA stopped lobbying, donors would just move to the next gun rights advocacy group (probably Gun Owners of America) and nothing would change.


I realize that it's an exercise in futility, but if it's going to change then going after groups like the NRA is a start
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TopicLet's see what's going on at CPAC
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:49:03 PM
#23
Balrog0 posted...
You can go down to Four Corners Park and see obvious illegal immigrants defecating in the woods, fornicating in the woods, and on and on and on. These people are not the immigrants of the 20s and 30s. They will never be able to get good jobs here and be good citizens. Is that in your study?


:/
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:47:18 PM
#85
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I don't know what you think "propaganda" is, but again, all campaign funding groups do that too. And putting out a video saying "politicians are coming for guns" when there ARE in fact politicians coming for guns is not hateful.


Propaganda definition:
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

NRA video:



Oh, and you being ignorant to how hateful their videos are doesn't change that they are exactly that. Sorry that bothers you
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:43:45 PM
#84
DrunkenPilot72 posted...

Literally the definition of campaign funding group. The difference is that while the NRA does contribute a crap ton of cash to shape policy, it isn't the only thing the organization does. If you were to remove the lobbying arm of the NRA, there would still be an organization left.

The NRA spends a great deal of time and resources on fire arm education, safety, certification, and responsible gun ownership. They could stop lobbying today and there would still be a large organization left.


I realize that's what lobbying groups do, and that's why I hate them. And I'd be fine with them shutting down their lobbying arm and then refocusing their efforts on those things after their leadership upheaval in the 70s.

Oh and Wayne LaPierre is a hateful piece of shit as well who needs to go
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:40:03 PM
#81
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Which you have described in exactly the same terms all political organizations can be described. So they're all hateful then.


Nope, only ones that put out propaganda videos telling their enemies they are coming for them.

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time keeping up, I can draw a picture to help if you'd like
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TopicAnti gunners are aware that ak/ar pistols exist, right?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:37:31 PM
#40
Nomadic View posted...

I think the people saying ban semi-autos legitimately just dont know what that means.


The issue is those with knowledge don't ever bother to explain things to those folks, just chastise and attack and accuse them of wanting to take all their guns. And that's in regards to any form of even discussing firearm issues.

I grew up in a very rural area with plenty of hunters and have hunted and killed a deer myself and shot a barrage of them in my life, yet was always accused by people of wanting to ban all guns and completely unreasonable about it. It's absurd
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TopicBREAKING: White House on lockdown after car rams security barrier
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:25:12 PM
#11
Good Lord the Daily Caller comment section is loaded with legitimately crazy people
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TopicBREAKING: White House on lockdown after car rams security barrier
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:21:50 PM
#7
Was just a crazy lady and SS claims it had nothing to do with Trump or the WH
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:20:51 PM
#78
Sephiroth1288 posted...
By your definition here literally every campaign funding group is hateful...


Nope, only ones like the NRA. I dislike others who try to use their money to buy politicians and shape policy, and it's littered on both sides of the aisle.

That's fine though, we know you support them as long as they are on your side and hate the others.
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 4:01:46 PM
#72
Sephiroth1288 posted...
How are they hateful?


I think putting out propaganda videos calling for your supporters to take up arms and telling your enemies that you're coming for them is a bit hateful, but you're not going to agree, so what's the point?

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why?


Because they stopped being about defending the second amendment rights and more as a political group trying to influence the government to do their bidding. And I hate every group like that
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TopicTeen viciously owns Marco Rubio
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 3:52:46 PM
#68
Sephiroth1288 posted...

Ok great good luck with getting money out of politics. Targeting NRA donations specifically though is dumb since they aren't even close to the wealthiest campaign finance group.


Gotta start somewhere, and that hateful propaganda group seems like as good of a place as any. They aren't the only ones protecting firearms and their influence should have been stomped out a long time ago
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TopicThe Opie and Anthony Show was great and so was the community
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 3:21:01 PM
#13
Doom_Art posted...
And shame the community devolved into t_d jr


Their sub like, a week ago or so, completely dove head first into "SANDY HOOK IS A HOAX" nonsense and changed the entire sub to be that. I don't know if it flipped back and only knew about it from the Subreddit Drama sub, but yeah
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TopicAnti gunners are aware that ak/ar pistols exist, right?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 3:18:16 PM
#21
Pepys Monster posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
Anti-gunners have next to zero firearm knowledge.

You don't need to know specs to understand there is a major problem with gun violence and mass shootings.

This.

If liberals are using incorrect terminology, inform us on what we should be calling type of gun that fires a lot of bullets really fast so we call it that when we talk about it.

Imagine if a lawyer walked into a courtroom to prosecute someone and asked the defense lawyer for proper terminology and facts to do so, lmfao!


Good thing none of us are lawyers nor is this a court room then. If you want to win people over to "your side" its better not to attack and insult them for not having the knowledge on a subject. Both sides need to stop doing that shit

The left should educate themselves about guns. For some reason, they choose not to. We all have the Internet.


Or you could be an adult and understand what they are referring to, inform them they are wrong about the phrasing, and move on to actually discuss the issue instead of going "LOL YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT SEMI AUTO/FULLY AUTO. DISMISSED!".

Then again, that'd require people actually giving a shit about discussion and compromise and not just belittling the other side
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TopicAnti gunners are aware that ak/ar pistols exist, right?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 3:07:01 PM
#14
voldothegr8 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
Anti-gunners have next to zero firearm knowledge.

You don't need to know specs to understand there is a major problem with gun violence and mass shootings.

This.

If liberals are using incorrect terminology, inform us on what we should be calling type of gun that fires a lot of bullets really fast so we call it that when we talk about it.

Imagine if a lawyer walked into a courtroom to prosecute someone and asked the defense lawyer for proper terminology and facts to do so, lmfao!


Good thing none of us are lawyers nor is this a court room then. If you want to win people over to "your side" its better not to attack and insult them for not having the knowledge on a subject. Both sides need to stop doing that shit
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TopicShould we just make guns illegal?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 12:19:58 PM
#37
Nomadic View posted...
Im actually pretty surprised at the results. I thought most of CE was full blown Ban the 2nd!


That's what groups like the NRA and the politicians they endorse want you to believe how anyone left of them feels about the issue. Their propaganda message has been strong for almost 50 years now.
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TopicShould we just make guns illegal?
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 12:18:42 PM
#36
No, and it'd be impossible to implement.

And judging by the results of the poll perhaps all those screaming "LIBERALS WANT TO COME TAKE YOUR GUNS!" should take a look and realize how wrong that sentiment is.
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TopicI think I'm going to buy an AK47 pretty soon.
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 12:16:27 PM
#36
AlecSkorpio posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
I'm sure the price raise has nothing to do with the Florida shooting lmao


IIRC, AK's have been going up in price for the past 3-5 years because AR15's have overtaken them on the market.


That's probably correct, but it's absolutely a thing that happens after mass shootings

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-02-21/bump-stock-prices-rise-online-after-trump-proposes-device-ban

Especially considering how gun sales and company stock prices dropped dramatically under Trump now that Obama is out of office
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TopicI think I'm going to buy an AK47 pretty soon.
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 12:09:46 PM
#33
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
AK47's are back up to like 700-900 dollars for basic ass models at the places I'm looking.

This is highway robbery!


I'm sure the price raise has nothing to do with the Florida shooting lmao
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TopicNRA Spokeswoman: "Media loves school shootings."
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 11:45:31 AM
#15
And if anything, the NRA loves mass shootings, simply because that sweet sweet money from gun manufacturers comes in more when people are fearful of the government coming for your weapons.

You know, the same government ran by Republicans with a Republican president they endorsed faster than any other one ever. What a joke.
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TopicFlorida school shooting: Sheriff got 18 calls about Cruz violence, threats, gun
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 11:42:22 AM
#49
GregShmedley posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Republicans and the NRA aren't actually interested in compromising on this issue at all and they never will be. We aren't going to see ages raised for purchasing semi autos, we aren't going to see bump stocks banned, we aren't going to see magazine size restrictions, we won't see shit aside basically whatever the NRA wants, "compromise" be damned


Why do bump stocks need to be banned? Why do magazines need a limit? Why are your demands the ones that need to be met?


Those aren't even my demands, they are discussion points and topics we won't actually see happen because the NRA and Republicans funded by them aren't actually interested in compromise or giving anything up. Not to mention Trump has never once shown he wants to ever compromise on anything, and his whole idea of compromising with the other side is "Demand everything and when people disagree blame them for being obstructionists".

Nothing will ever change because the NRA has convinced people that even discussion about gun issues need to be shut down and are dangerous and mean they are coming for your guns. It's fucking pathetic
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TopicNRA Spokeswoman: "Media loves school shootings."
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 11:26:05 AM
#8
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
gotta find some way to whip gun nuts into a frenzy now that they can't dangle "OBAMA COMING FOR YOUR GUNS" over their head every few months


Oh they've been doing that since prior to the election with their propaganda video calling for people to take up arms against the violent leftists trying to overthrow Trump
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TopicFlorida school shooting: Sheriff got 18 calls about Cruz violence, threats, gun
The Great Muta 22
02/23/18 11:24:52 AM
#40
This is why nothing is actually going to happen. The NRA has, through 50 years of propaganda, convinced people that any slightest discussion on changing certain laws as it pertains to firearms automatically means "THEY ARE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS AND WE CAN'T GIVE AN INCH BECAUSE THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE!". We have a Republican president who the NRA endorsed faster than ANY other one in history and a Republican Congress loaded with people with pockets lined by the NRA and similar lobbies, yet people are still trying to paint this narrative that you need to be worried about the big bad government coming to take your guns immediately.

Republicans and the NRA aren't actually interested in compromising on this issue at all and they never will be. We aren't going to see ages raised for purchasing semi autos, we aren't going to see bump stocks banned, we aren't going to see magazine size restrictions, we won't see shit aside basically whatever the NRA wants, "compromise" be damned
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TopicWhat's wrong with the NRA
The Great Muta 22
02/22/18 10:37:43 PM
#25
They use hateful and divisive propaganda bullshit to sell their message




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TopicNRA gets dumped by major bank
The Great Muta 22
02/22/18 9:39:52 PM
#60
TopicNRA gets dumped by major bank
The Great Muta 22
02/22/18 9:17:56 PM
#48
TopicHappy national chili day
The Great Muta 22
02/22/18 8:12:41 PM
#3
I'm sorry it was chili day. Chill day is later
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