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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

But if theyre extremely mentally ill, how can you possibly justify killing them for doing things they werent really in control of?

The whole "control/consent" way of judging crimes is kind of silly tbh, we know interactions within the brain are deterministic. It's not really relevant whether or not he's culpable anyway, the justice system shouldn't even be about punishment, it should be about removing or rehabilitating harmful people, putting him to death (or locking him up) shouldn't be considered a punishment to begin with, but rather a necessity.
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Until this bear market ends this is the only decent hope of consistent gains https://ethpyramid.com/
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I'm pretty content with believing he's not real based on no evidence tbqh
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

no one says "i'm going to eat this burger because it's an inferior mind and deserves to suffer"

Actually, if you've been following along, they have in this very thread
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

nativengine posted...

And slavery still exist in America. Comparing the consumption of meat to slavery is honestly one of the dumbest arguments Ive heard. Dont eat meat, thats fine. But comparing it to slavery is straight up stupid.

1. Where does slavery exist in America
2. No one has put forth an actual reason for the slavery comparison being less than apt, only feigned distaste

Slavery absolutely still exists in America. Look up human trafficking dude.

I was under the impression that he meant legal slavery
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nativengine posted...

And slavery still exist in America. Comparing the consumption of meat to slavery is honestly one of the dumbest arguments Ive heard. Dont eat meat, thats fine. But comparing it to slavery is straight up stupid.

1. Where does slavery exist in America
2. No one has put forth an actual reason for the slavery comparison being less than apt, only feigned distaste
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

No said "we still do it so it must be okay." That's a strawman. YOU said that most people have conventional morals about not doing unnecessary harm. So I pointed out that most people also have no issue with eating meat. They have no conception of it being wrong for any reason.

Like most things people take for granted, they aren't aware of the harm involved. The slavery comparison remains apt because people genuinely believed (in America) that it was OK because blacks were believed to be inferior and thus beneath moral consideration, in the same way and for the same reasons farm animals are today.

Another example (hopefully one that will ruffle fewer feathers) would be the way workers are treated in certain other countries. The evidence would lead you to believe that no one actually has morals at all regarding treatment of laborers if you just look at how many people use Foxconn products, for example. But what this actually shows is that people don't always apply their moral beliefs, not that they have none. Of course, this situation is a little less easy than the whole meat industry thing because computer parts can't really be acquired from any better source, which is unlike the situation with our food.

The whole "inferior minds deserve to suffer" way of thinking is, aside from its backwardness, only sparsely practiced anyway, but that's a whole other discussion
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REMercsChamp posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Comparing eating meat to slavery means you don't have an argument and just want to take advantage of slavery.

It's like saying "drinking water is bad because every culture drinks water just like every culture had slaves." Do you see why it's a stupid argument to make?

Wow, the level of misunderstanding. You literally now believe that because I think "whatever is done is OK" is untrue, that I must believe the inverse.

I mean, IDK how to even respond to this, I feel like you've glitched in some horrible way and now it's fallen on me to debug you.

You were literally comparing eating some dumb cow to slavery

You understand that people tried to justify slavery by saying that blacks are less intelligent and a different species, right?

This is just getting sad dude. Here's the dumb shit animals you're so upset over:

https://hw-static.worldstarhiphop.com/u/pic/2018/01/s3YdAsQo1P6y.jpg
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nativengine posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Comparing eating meat to slavery means you don't have an argument and just want to take advantage of slavery.

It's like saying "drinking water is bad because every culture drinks water just like every culture had slaves." Do you see why it's a stupid argument to make?

Wow, the level of misunderstanding. You literally now believe that because I think "whatever is done is OK" is untrue, that I must believe the inverse.

I mean, IDK how to even respond to this, I feel like you've glitched in some horrible way and now it's fallen on me to debug you.

You were literally comparing eating some dumb cow to slavery

You understand that people tried to justify slavery by saying that blacks are less intelligent and a different species, right?

You realize slavery is still very common around the world right?

Slavery in America, I should have said.

And yeah I'm aware, it makes the "Well we still do it so it must be OK" """"""argument"""""" even sillier
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REMercsChamp posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Comparing eating meat to slavery means you don't have an argument and just want to take advantage of slavery.

It's like saying "drinking water is bad because every culture drinks water just like every culture had slaves." Do you see why it's a stupid argument to make?

Wow, the level of misunderstanding. You literally now believe that because I think "whatever is done is OK" is untrue, that I must believe the inverse.

I mean, IDK how to even respond to this, I feel like you've glitched in some horrible way and now it's fallen on me to debug you.

You were literally comparing eating some dumb cow to slavery

You understand that people tried to justify slavery by saying that blacks are less intelligent and a different species, right?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Comparing eating meat to slavery means you don't have an argument and just want to take advantage of slavery.

It's like saying "drinking water is bad because every culture drinks water just like every culture had slaves." Do you see why it's a stupid argument to make?

Wow, the level of misunderstanding. You literally now believe that because I think "whatever is done is OK" is untrue, that I must believe the opposite.

I mean, IDK how to even respond to this, I feel like you've glitched in some horrible way and now it's fallen on me to debug you.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Eating meat is a non-issue in almost every major culture that has existed or still exists lol.

Used to be the same with slavery, but the great thing about the status quo is that we can apply our moral values and change it to better reflect them. The whole "It is done so it is good" thing is a strange phenomenon of conservative thinking (many of whom pride themselves on "remembering history" when convenient)
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Hexenherz posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Humans are not obligate carnivores/omnivores unlike those animals, and humans have an advanced level of sentience that allows us to make moral decisions.

Yeah but morality is entirely subjective and set by the cultures that we grow up in...

You won't get an argument that refutes that lol

Vegans have no arguments

The thing is that this applies to every moral argument. Most people, however, have pretty conventional moral values that basically say "don't do unnecessary harm". Saying "well what if I don't care about the suffering of others because my morals are different from yours?" Isn't an argument. It's no more an argument than saying (this should resonate with you):

"So what if capitalism raises the standard of living for all? It's not worth things being unequal, in my personal view of what is good."

It's just not really an argument. If pointing out that harm is being done doesn't resonate with you then you are not even the target audience as you aren't currently in a place of sensible thinking.
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meestermj posted...

tehzeldafanboy posted...

meestermj posted...

And I believe that animals are animals and are on this planet for our use.

Based on what evidence?

Who said anything about evidence? That's the way I personally feel on the matter.

Oh, you're a rarity then. Most people are too proud to admit when their beliefs are based on mere feelings instead of anything substantial
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meestermj posted...

And I believe that animals are animals and are on this planet for our use.

Based on what evidence?
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There are some pretty nasty-looking blown-out pussies and there's nothing gay about thinking they look gross

But there are some good looking ones, too. Look up missalice
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DifferentialEquation posted...

That was still a million times better than whatever that crap was that Hillary spit into a glass last year when she was speaking:

This dude has never seen a bubble before lol
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Squidkids posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn libs are STILL bitter over Hillary losing.

Get over it already.

I do not care who wins or losses just as long as the president is competent

why was the last 2 republican presidents sub-competent???

The problem is that there are more republicans who will vote for any republican than there are democrats who will vote for any democrat. If the democrat isn't a far better candidate than his opponent, he loses. Also, many repubs just like stupid candidates, because they're "relatable"
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Mankind has proven that it can't be trusted with freedom and that it's unworthy of freedom

Libertarians forget this
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Twinmold posted...

I've been tired of lonely neckbeards cherry picking this article for years. The article also mentions that despite the fact that women had higher standards of attractiveness (not a surprise given that women are slotted into being choosers) that they actually reached out to more men out of their attraction zone.

Yeah I already covered that. Women also go for guys with money or status.
Twinmold posted...

Lol, I imagine you're not a very popular guy with this attitude.

Actually I'm beloved by all
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Twinmold posted...

Redpillers love the idea that their eternal loneliness is all a conspiracy by women against men, because then they can lie to themselves that it's not their fault. Easier than the reality that their lack of investment in their appearance, and their shitty, cynical, narcissistic personalities drive women away.

I think it's got a lot to do with the fact that those guys don't want to be part of the sectors of society that would help them get women.

With guys, attraction is pretty much completely natural and genetic value-based. Hot girls are attractive, and even better if they have good attitudes. With women, there's artificial shit that many guys just don't care to participate in like social status and assets and other nonsense. So basically if you're not chad enough to get tail based just on your looks (and it's highly likely you aren't since women literally think 80% of men are below-average https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e) and you aren't interested in being a basic bro, you're SOL

Luckily I'm not into women so I get to avoid all this, haha
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Lightsasori posted...

...So much for the guy who's supporter base are all about "free speech".

A majority of republicans aren't "about" anything. Their "views" are whatever their current guy most recently espoused. Very much a tribe, not an ideology, aside from maybe the one shared ideal of wanting to be taxed less.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/opinion/trump-republicans.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/04/11/daily-202-reflexive-partisanship-drives-polling-lurch-on-syria-strikes/58ec27d4e9b69b3a72331e6e/?utm_term=.9402613617a2
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>be me
>cut master race
>my girl is in the mood, about to lay the pipe
>haven't showered in days because I don't need to due to /glorioushalfamanmasterrace/
>thinking about poor unfortunate anteaters who will never feel the embrace of a woman because modern womens' expectations for sex come from porn now
>ritual begins
>she takes off her robe and lets it fall to the floor like in the movies
>applies her noseplugs
>I take off my pants and special low-friction undies that I have to wear to avoid chafing
>entire room fills with the smell of my unwashed ass but I hardly notice anymore
>girl 'mires my chalky member for a bit before getting started
>pulls the lube tub out of the lube tub drawer
>applies it copiously so as to avoid friction burns like our first time when she was put out of action for a week (most boring honeymoon ever)
>we go at it for a couple minutes or so before I finish
>wew, at least I did finish this time instead of being unable to as is often the case
>she's disappointed but not as much as she would be if my parents hadn't amputated a part of my dick when I was an infant, I reckon
>pass out, have weird dream about my wife excitedly chainsawing a tree

Wait this isn't 4chan
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