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TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/15/17 2:54:14 PM
#116
Foppe posted...
Would Stephen Paddock have got as many kills with a knife.


No, but Devin Patrick Kelley would have gotten more if Stephen Willeford hadn't been allowed to own a rifle.
TopicC\D There is not a liberal America and a conservative America, not black\white
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 5:25:32 PM
#5
darkphoenix181 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
How rich for him of all people to say that. It's funny, I agree with those words as being the ideal, yet his actions ended up taking us farther away from that than we've been in decades.


what actions specifically?

surely not saying Trayvon could be his son was the impetus?


His speeches on the Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown cases that only stirred the pot of racial tension, deflecting from critique of Jihad by bringing up the Crusades and Inquisition, and keeping Al Sharpton as a trusted advisor, to name a few. Racial tensions have climbed substantially since he was elected, thanks to him and the media that would follow him off of a bridge.
TopicC\D There is not a liberal America and a conservative America, not black\white
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 5:15:16 PM
#3
How rich for him of all people to say that. It's funny, I agree with those words as being the ideal, yet his actions ended up taking us farther away from that than we've been in decades.
TopicRand Paul speaks about the hate crime from his neighbor causing 6 broken ribs
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 5:13:42 PM
#23
Giant_Aspirin posted...
"hurr durr Liberals think they can literally beat up anyone who supports Trump and expect to get away with it"

no, nobody thinks that. just stop.


To be fair, the media took their sweet time with condemning Antifa.
TopicNew York Times: Don't let your black children be friends with whites
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 5:09:39 PM
#298
That_Happened posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
There is no racial "cause" for them to fight for when the president doesn't hate black people.

To be accurate, Trump hates anyone and everyone that he can't take advantage of or profit from immediately. He has no loyalty to anyone. But again, he ran on a campaign of racial stereotypes and saying terrible things about minorities. A vote for him was a vote for that. It's not wrong for minorities to be distrustful and cautious of Trump supporters.


Where were the racial stereotypes? All I saw were arguable uses cultural stereotypes of Mexicans and Arabs.

How about we take some of your own logic, and say that a vote for Hillary was a vote for misandry and anti-American policies? The truth is that a good chunk of those votes for both candidates were very likely to be reactionary; I know of many people who only voted for Trump to stop Hillary, and vice-versa. To label half the goddam voting base as racist is a pure lie that you yourself don't even believe.

Stop dancing around the hard truth that this is a parent indoctrinating their children in racial prejudice. I know you would be outraged at this if the situation was reversed.
TopicNew York Times: Don't let your black children be friends with whites
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:58:20 PM
#291
That_Happened posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Why did he say "white people" and not "Trump supporters?"

He said both. He's talking about two groups here. Mainly Trump supporters, but also people who don't support Trump yet are the "white moderate" as was mentioned in the topic about MLK: the kind of person who will tell you to your face "oh yeah that sucks that black people have it bad" but won't do anything to help your cause. He makes a pretty clear distinction that there are lots of white people who will not sit idly by when minorities are treated poorly, but he's proceeding with caution until he's sure which type of person he's talking to before becoming "true friends" with them.


There is no racial "cause" for them to fight for when the president doesn't hate black people. To teach your son that you should not only greet your peers with racial prejudice, but also refuse friendship with anyone who doesn't fall in line with your "cause" would absolutely be condemned by the left if the parents were white. Seriously, it's the foundation for a cliche Christian country dad in a movie or something, the only difference is the skin color.
TopicNew York Times: Don't let your black children be friends with whites
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:43:01 PM
#278
That_Happened posted...
Howl posted...
And we know that the nature behind the ideology of his statement is a black supremacist ideology.

But looking at the article, there is clearly no "black supremacy." The whole point of the article is a feeling of sadness that he cannot trust the average Trump supporter to truly care about him and his family. There is no follow-up where the man suggests black people are better, or more suited to lead, or any kind of aggression at all.

So please, help me by pointing out the black supremacy angle in the article. Use direct quotes.


Why did he say "white people" and not "Trump supporters?"
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:41:48 PM
#105
Darmik posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Darmik posted...
Guns aren't the only thing that influence every single crime rate.


Congratulations, you just discovered the point that pro-gun advocates have been uttering for decades. Even when you try to take their guns, criminals will still commit crimes, and violent criminals will still be violent. History and current events make this all too clear.


That's a strawman argument. Nobody is claiming that everyone is going to hold hands and sing kumbaya if guns are banned/restricted/whatever.


Yet I fail to ever see a rebuttal to it from the gun control crowd.
TopicNew York Times: Don't let your black children be friends with whites
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:40:20 PM
#276
Funbazooka posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
So basically, there are children being taught to hate cops and white people. And then they grow up and continue this cycle of hatred.

*sigh*

Openly pushing segregation essentially... while still demanding whites have their backs, when they demand it. "We hate you guys, and tell everyone else to hate you guys, but come on now you better do what we tell you."


This is the part that gets me the most. I remember a former Black Panther said on video how frustrated he was about BLM's insistence on having the white man rule their lives by putting in all the work to fix their problems for them. I swear, a lot of these modern leftist ideas are echoes of John C. Calhoun.
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:32:25 PM
#103
Darmik posted...
Guns aren't the only thing that influence every single crime rate.


Congratulations, you just discovered the point that pro-gun advocates have been uttering for decades. Even when you try to take their guns, criminals will still commit crimes, and violent criminals will still be violent. History and current events make this all too clear.
TopicNew York Times: Don't let your black children be friends with whites
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:22:25 PM
#260
FrisbeeDude posted...
I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to this school of thought, but given the brazen levels of political and social hostility towards minorities in the last ten years (in that span, a white supremacist slaughtered black church goers and literal fucking nazis, torches and anti Semitic slogans and all, openly gathered in mass in American city), it's totally reasonable


This just in, it's now reasonable to respond to discrimination with more discrimination.
TopicNew York Times: Don't let your black children be friends with whites
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:19:12 PM
#255
Doe posted...
Donald Trumps election has made it clear that I will teach my boys the lesson generations old, one that I for the most part nearly escaped. I will teach them to be cautious, I will teach them suspicion, and I will teach them distrust. Much sooner than I thought I would, I will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with white people.


t. Barack Obama
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:16:34 PM
#96
Darmik posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Darmik posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted.


Source?


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/


I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are.


"Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women."

Right fucking there, dude.


Murders in Bumfuck County in 2016: 1
Murders in Bumfuck Country in 2017: 2

"Good lord honey. The murder rate has doubled in the last year! We better move to Detroit just to be safe."


The question was never comparing the two murder rates, it was comparing how they changed since Australia's new laws to see if they had actually done something.
Topicare people crying over optional micro transactions in new star wars game?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:09:15 PM
#51
Forty fucking hours of play versus forking over extra money, which one do you think EA wants most players to go for? It's a sneaky and shitty way of squeezing extra money out of people who already paid sixty dollars, for a game that's already skimpy on content, which is all already on the disk and could be offered for free.
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:02:02 PM
#88
Darmik posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted.


Source?


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/


I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are.


"Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women."

Right fucking there, dude.
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 4:00:06 PM
#260
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
That's an idiotic glorification of SJWs.

There's nothing wrong with SJW's. There's everything wrong with the alt right.


Black-and-white fallacy. "Since they're pure evil, their opposition must be pure good." Enlighten me on how the elitist, tyrannical Federalist Party was so great just because the Democrats were pro-slave and anti-Indian.
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:54:59 PM
#256
Paper_Okami posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Even when it's white nationalist, it's still liberals who are to blame...
Everything negative thing that happens, someone on CE will blame liberals. Every. Single. Time.


"I didn't want to embrace neo nazism, but you damn liberals made me do it! Stop being so triggered over offensive memes about genocide guys, jeez!"


Strawman argument, since it's not just Nazis making this case.


If people wanting equality makes you mad you got problems


That's an idiotic glorification of SJWs.
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:52:29 PM
#84
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted.


Source?


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:44:21 PM
#78
Sparksfanboy posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Sparksfanboy posted...
OP: Hey guys! We have a problem.
CTs: What do you want to do about problem.
OP: *lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem.
CTs: no response but deflections and emoji.

This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish


What reasonable ways? Seriously. Look at history. Learn from it.


I am looking at history. Both Canada and Australia have gun laws that have resulted in sharp drops in gun violence since their implementation. You might not remember this but back in the 70s when Canada first introduced it's own firearm laws it was pretty gung-ho about firearms as well. In the years since gun violence has dropped significantly in Canada, and since it was introduced in Australia in 1996 gun violence even more significantly dropped.

It's not possible to entirely remove gun violence from society, but it is possible to reduce the amount of it by a significant margin. Other countries that are similar to America culturally have done so to good effect already. America can do it too. Hell, even funding research and removing the ban on firearm violence research in America would go a long way in doing so.

I mean it's either that, or just keep let it happening, or fix your mental health support system in America, and from what I've seen in the past year's hubub over Obamacare, I don't think that will ever happen Reshiram


Actually, America's murder rate overall has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Gun violence is a different story, but all that proves is what pro-gun advocates have been saying about violence happening regardless of weapon choice. And, believe it or not, it's the truth, most gun violence goes on in urban communities with handguns. Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol.

You can't just "fix mental health support," either. That takes years of research and money.
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:34:50 PM
#76
Foppe posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Foppe posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens

None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger?


Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control.

And how do we know that they wont break the law one day?


Because, to paraphrase from The Federalist, a government that tries to stop impossible-to-predict, cosmic eventualities will fail.

All you give are what-ifs. You can't deny that a) People will find ways to commit murders and get around the law, b) Law-abiding people can keep them in check, and c) They can't do so without a reliable weapon like a gun.
TopicThoughts & Prayers. Another shooting at a school. At least 2 dead.
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:28:00 PM
#24
DUDE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS LOL


Glad to see you all using this tragedy to demo your 100-percent original comedy.
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:23:50 PM
#64
Foppe posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens

None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger?


Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control.
TopicHow come, despite all these shootings, nothing at all is happening in response?
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:15:12 PM
#56
because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:12:28 PM
#254
The Great Muta 22 posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Even when it's white nationalist, it's still liberals who are to blame...
Everything negative thing that happens, someone on CE will blame liberals. Every. Single. Time.


"I didn't want to embrace neo nazism, but you damn liberals made me do it! Stop being so triggered over offensive memes about genocide guys, jeez!"


Strawman argument, since it's not just Nazis making this case.
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/14/17 3:08:52 PM
#230
Kineth posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
whites are demonized in their own f***ing countries in Europe if they say anything bad about immigrants.

Maybe the reason why those "whites" are being demonized because it's prejudiced to negatively stereotype an immigrant population of 5+ million people.

You're implying that it's coded within white DNA to negatively stereotype non-whites.


Maybe this is gonna be shocking to you, but it's probable that he was referring to a specific subset of white people and doesn't seek to paint an entire group of people with a broad brush, unlike the people he's describing.

Never mind the fact that you took a giant leap to get to your supposition.


Not really, Malcom_McGuffi was the one who lumped in all white people as prejudiced against immigrants. As cliche as this sounds, think of the situation being reversed, with the response to "ethnic people are being demonized" being "well maybe the reason for that is that they're all murderers."

Takes the wind out of your sails as well when the open border parties in America and Europe are majorly white. Do you racists even think about what you're saying?
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 2:20:17 PM
#148
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
emblem boy posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Obviously when the race becomes a minority so will the culture dwindle and instead the majority culture will take hold.
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What about first and second generation immigrants who grew up in this countries? Wouldn't they have a large mix of that countries culture and some parts of their immigrant parents culture?


Yes and no. The first and second generation will share the culture of their birth parents and their birth country. More so the second generation because the first tends to be more ethnic due to exposure to their parents culture.

Now the issue again comes from mass immigration. When you have a high number of foreigners coming into your country, they will change their surroundings to resemble something foreign before they can fully integrate if they even can. And full integration is impossible when new waves of immigrants keep coming yearly and move into areas that are culturally similar to the one they left behind.

However you spin it, it's impossible to take in mass immigration without mass change to the receiving country. So it comes down to, do you like this change and welcome it, or do you not like this change and prefer what's already established.


I've never met my birth parents so what is my culture?


literally no one cares he was speaking generally
TopicProperty is theft
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 2:19:25 PM
#2
From whom?
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 2:19:05 PM
#223
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Imagine if sharia law and compulsory homosexuality actually made America great again. That would be a twist.


take that merica LOL
Topichas anyone watched the Netflix show 'Big Mouth?"
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 1:50:56 PM
#37
Who the fuck could think this was smart advertising

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TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 1:46:27 PM
#128
Fishy posted...
less cultural

nice
TopicImagine not being able to drink the tap water where you live
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 1:32:45 PM
#8
XxKrazyChaosxX posted...
Might want to rethink some stuff if you have to result to drinking tap water regardless.


fuck off
TopicIf you are an English speaker you might assume that all cats say 'meow'
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 1:31:19 PM
#11
mouw

TopicC/D Conservatism is a plague on society
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 1:15:07 PM
#45
ZMythos posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
How does wanting limited government make you an awful person

It doesn't. Government's role should be to protect its citizens and enforce contracts.

While this means it can't dictate everything citizens do, it means that it should protect consumers and workers from corporations who will often do anything for profit.

The limited government conservative politicians try to sell is usually only limited/beneficial to the upper class, while simultaneously attempting to wring the middle and lower class out for their money.


The big government leftists advocate for treats the lower class like braindead fools and often hurts small businesses in worse proportion to the big corporations they scapegoat all the time.
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 1:12:49 PM
#102
pinky0926 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
No, you're the one wanting to deal in feelings instead of debating facts like a civil person.


The fact is here that if you're a white person in a white majority country like America (and I assume both are true, but correct me if I'm mistaken) then you won't know what it's like to experience the kind of racism that minorities do. That's a fact as much as it's a fact that you wouldn't know what it's like to have a period, (assuming again) that you are a man. This is not to say that you haven't ever been discriminated against or that you can't talk about racism or whatever.

I would suggest the one dealing in facts is me, and the one dealing in feelings is you. None of the above statements should have upset you.


What I'd like to ask is, what are retorts like that supposed to do? Is the "you don't know because you aren't black/a woman/gay" argument helping minorities? Not to play the role of "noble white savior" or whatever, but what I have personally seen is that these arguments have hurt more than anything; they've formed an echo chamber in minority communities that shuns any idea against the narrative established by people who only want their votes, money, or petty validation, stagnating politics in this country for the last decades, and decades more to come.

The truth is that it's a flashy distraction from real issues when someone says such things. It's a flimsy way of thinking that's been easily exploited by scurrilous politicians, allowing voices like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to gain traction. Would anyone ever say that you can't criticize Milo Yiannopolous' claims that a child being molested by a man can be positive for the child, because you aren't gay and can't understand his experience? No, because at the end of the day, these retorts are leftist tactics to shut down opposition without a real discussion. I shudder to think about the "you don't get it because you aren't black" argument being used in favor of slavery.

So, to answer you, you're right that what you said is factual, but, what's the point in saying it?
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:23:58 PM
#86
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
People don?t like forced cultural integration. Different cultures exist for a reason.

Also, if hundreds of thousands of white Europeans decided to flood into Africa and the Middle East, disrupting those cultures and spreading their own, I doubt liberals would be defending that.


White American religious missionaries are already doing that in Africa and as liberal, you're damn right I'm not defending it.


Why not?
TopicC/D Conservatism is a plague on society
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:23:13 PM
#36
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
What no radical leftist can explain is if all these conservatives are pure evil and the second coming of Adolf, why aren't we going to war with them? They're destroying our country, right? They're evil, right? They're a plague on society, right? When Obama was in office, where was the petition to declare civil war on this imperative blight on the world?


This post gave me cancer


I'm sorry, you should get to a hospital about that.

lilORANG posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
as yes the Disney mentality, I'm the on the side of the saviors and I'm fighting against pure evil !

I mean if you look at history the liberal cause has always prevailed >_>


Like the Russian Revolution?
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:21:38 PM
#84
pinky0926 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
That doesn't change the merit of a claim. You would only need to say that if you disagree with it in the first place, and if you disagree, you should explain why instead of jumping to platitudes.


Essentially you're just saying I hurt your feelings because I don't think it's likely you really know what it's like to experience racism to any kind of degree that's relevant to this discussion, is that it in a nutshell?


No, you're the one wanting to deal in feelings instead of debating facts like a civil person.
TopicC/D Conservatism is a plague on society
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:19:17 PM
#33
What no radical leftist can explain is if all these conservatives are pure evil and the second coming of Adolf, why aren't we going to war with them? They're destroying our country, right? They're evil, right? They're a plague on society, right? When Obama was in office, where was the petition to declare civil war on this imperative blight on the world?
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:16:27 PM
#80
pinky0926 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Well, to start, I find it a racist idea that you can devalue someone's ideas just because of their skin color.


Do you know what it's like to experience a period?

Saying you don't know what it's like to be a minority is not devaluing your ideas, just like saying you don't know what it's like to be a woman is not devaluing your gender. It's just stating the obvious about your experience.


That doesn't change the merit of a claim. You would only need to say that if you disagree with it in the first place, and if you disagree, you should explain why instead of jumping to platitudes.
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:14:03 PM
#195
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
60 thousand death penalties would be crazy, but I say make it happen.


Can you repeat that in German mein bruder?
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:11:04 PM
#76
pinky0926 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
He perceives radical Islam as a bigger threat than Neonazis because they're killing more people. But, I agree that he would do anything to keep his support intact, just like any other sneaky politician.

I think there's blame to be shared for this trend: the actual advocates and enablers of the alt-right and Neonazism like Milo Yiannopolous, and the leftist opposition to it, that through censorship, safe spaces, and overuse of terms like "Nazi" and "racist" to the point of their meaning being lost, has given it all the room in the world to grow in today's youth. The only way to stop it is to start to be honest, and start to elect honest people.


Strange then that he's been completely lukewarm on episodes of mass shootings when the killer is a white male versus when the killer is not, because mass shootings by homegrown white men is currently killing a lot more people than Islamic terror attacks on home soil. I think if we're going to be honest, he'll do anything to hold onto the people that support him politically, as well as having biases of his own.

I don't know if what you're asking is going to work. I think we could also say that for us white people who've never had racism really enter into our everyday life outside of the occasional insult or small concession of privilege, it's all too easy to say what we think racism is and isn't, so long as it doesn't actually require any shift in perspective or behaviour.


Well, to start, I find it a racist idea that you can devalue someone's ideas just because of their skin color.
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 12:00:02 PM
#64
Solar_Crimson posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Fishy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I don't understand how you can look at 1930's Germany and think "yeah, let's do that again."

it's amazing how "please leave my culture alone" turns into "gas the jews" when a multiculturalist hears it.


It's amazing how ignorant you are of history and how the Nazi party rose to power.

Protip: they didn't start out with "gas the jews".


Let me guess, you buy into all those "Trump is literally Hitler" headlines, too.

Every idea can be taken to an extreme. It's idiotic to think that they all will.

If those White supremacists had their way, it absolutely would be taken to the extreme. Especially with their talk of "Islamic holocaust" in the Polish march.


I wasn't talking about them. Like I said, I don't know of any respected conservative figures in the west that condone or advocate this kind of behavior; I can't say the same about Poland because I don't know much about Polish politics. This march fiasco could just blow over in due time, for all I know.

pinky0926 posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
Let me guess, you buy into all those "Trump is literally Hitler" headlines, too.

Every idea can be taken to an extreme. It's idiotic to think that they all will.


No, but I think Trump has done a piss poor job of denouncing white nationalism and nazism and it's a deliberate strategic move on his part. I think he's happy to use these idiots because they bolster his base, so long as he doesn't have to welcome them publically.

See: Trump on Islamic terror attacks vs Trump on white nationalist terror attacks.


He perceives radical Islam as a bigger threat than Neonazis because they're killing more people. But, I agree that he would do anything to keep his support intact, just like any other sneaky politician.

I think there's blame to be shared for this trend: the actual advocates and enablers of the alt-right and Neonazism like Milo Yiannopolous, and the leftist opposition to it, that through censorship, safe spaces, and overuse of terms like "Nazi" and "racist" to the point of their meaning being lost, has given it all the room in the world to grow in today's youth. The only way to stop it is to start to be honest, and start to elect honest people.
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 11:37:19 AM
#33
pinky0926 posted...
Fishy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I don't understand how you can look at 1930's Germany and think "yeah, let's do that again."

it's amazing how "please leave my culture alone" turns into "gas the jews" when a multiculturalist hears it.


It's amazing how ignorant you are of history and how the Nazi party rose to power.

Protip: they didn't start out with "gas the jews".


Let me guess, you buy into all those "Trump is literally Hitler" headlines, too.

Every idea can be taken to an extreme. It's idiotic to think that they all will.
TopicThe global rise of White nationalism/supremacist movements is disturbing
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 11:24:23 AM
#22
Just to be clear, multicultural =/= multiethnic. At large, the first one is what American and British conservatives are really fighting against, the ideas the left has attempted to indoctrinate in us for generations that all sets of values are equal, and anyone who attacks an ethnic person's values is attacking their skin color. If you want to see the extreme conclusion of multiculturalism, look at Sweden and Germany.

The actual racist movements like the alt-right and the recent marches in Poland are just reactionary to these ideas, and a false reaction at that, since like the modern left, the alt-right loves to speak in racist terms and treat attacks on values as attacks on race. I don't know of any well-respected conservative figures in the west besides Milo Yiannopolous who have sided with these movements, further proving that they're nothing but contrarianism without a tangible agenda behind them.
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 11:12:55 AM
#156
ECW025 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...

And these White supremacists aren't psychos for calling for genocide of people who don't look like them, or believing that this is all part of a Jewish conspiracy to destroy their country?


All the facts are there, those who are ignorant choose to be.


So just to be clear, you agree with them that it's all because of the Jews?
Topic60 thousand white nationalists marched in poland today.
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 11:05:29 AM
#146
I like Poland, but this is unacceptable. I hope the government handles this situation smartly.
TopicWalmart shopper wins $7.5m for watermelon mishap
Cherrys2000
11/12/17 11:00:44 AM
#33
HashtagTartarus posted...
The Admiral posted...
Not paying attention and being a clumsy fuck entitles you to millions now.

For fuck's sake.


Not surprising that The Admiral would denounce this old veteran at the drop of a hat. While it's true that Henry Walker still needs to use a mobility walker two years after the accident, Walmart stands to lose millions (with an 'm'!) of dollars. I can't imagine a worse fate than paying 0.054% of your annual net income towards some guy you made crippled.


Okay, this is an odd post since he clearly wasn't upset over the fact that Walmart lost money, but the fact that a man was given money because he hurt himself. I'm not even saying the old guy shouldn't have gotten a settlement, but it's strange how your manage to not only construe this as being entirely Walmart's fault, when there was plenty of room for the man to choose not to climb up the obviously unsafe pallet, but also start pulling these irrelevant statistics like we're suddenly debating taxes.

And just what does his being a veteran have to do with anything?
TopicBritish supermarket under fire for featuring Muslim family in Christmas advert.
Cherrys2000
11/10/17 5:36:53 PM
#98
Sphyx posted...
...so, we DON'T want them to integrate into Western society now?

Make up your fucking minds.


It's contrarianism without reason. As someone who hates multiculturalism, this is the kind of imagery, of different people uniting over common ground, that I want to see over the typical propaganda of all cultures being "separate but equal."

I'd rather have Muslims starring in Christmas commercials than crashing trucks into Christmas stores.
TopicOkay, one more try. Why shouldn't creationism be taught in public schools?
Cherrys2000
11/10/17 5:15:54 PM
#45
It shouldn't be taught as fact, but it should be addressed and discussed. It's a popular hypothesis with merit, just as the big bang theory is a popular hypothesis with merit.
TopicLiberal gun ownership skyrockets under Trump.
Cherrys2000
10/24/17 9:27:29 PM
#147
CocteauQuintplt posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
CocteauQuintplt posted...
Cherrys2000 posted...
CocteauQuintplt posted...
Uh, does this guy realize he shared a graphic that made my point?


No, because you never had a point to begin with, as college education is not indicative of sociopolitical intelligence. I'd bet a hundred bucks a healthy heaping of those college-educated Hillary voters have a worthless art or somesuch degree.

Yet, even entertaining your standard, you're still wrong, since college-educated people still voted for Trump


Why are you equating education with intellect? Did I? Nope.

I stated a fact, which you so kindly, and accidentally, backed me up on. Lol

Conservative fail #743488443278. Give it up, you looked a fool


Oh, so let's say you weren't connecting education to intellect, because you so clearly weren't equating them. Your claim, right or wrong, was nothing. Meaningless, in your own words.

In other words, you never had a point to begin with. Am I right to make that assertation? Or do you have something to say?


Lol, you are funny when you look a fool. Show some dignity, man. You fucked up and accidentally proved the opposite point you were trying to make, it happens with Trumpettes. Move on


Well, if you have nothing to say, your points are null.

Your sort never fails to fight the most worthless battles. And jump to conclusions as well, because I never would have voted Trump.
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