Lurker > Dark Young Link

People who bitch about political correctness all the time are the biggest whiners of them all. I'd say it's ironic, but that's been true for so long it's just a cliche now.
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DYL

Though ultimately? It's all irrelevant. Him having personal issues doesn't excuse him being an intentional dick to the board.

I mean, I used to be be a douche at times in the past... you didn't see me go "But guys, I'm going through a lot...." as an excuse. I just decided to stop(Or at least try).
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The former is new to me.

I've seen some worrisome comments from time to time, but his overall mental health isn't exactly something I'm up to date on.

Why exactly was that brought up though?
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Yeah that's the issue. The most talkative self declared "conservatives" are self admitted trolls. And no that's not "They have an opinion I don't like, they're trolls". I mean they are literal trolls who admit to being as such, and do absolutely nothing but try to start shit.


Doesn't help that Ulti keeps playing the victim. >_>
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If he goes that far, just block him imo. That shit doesn't need to be tolerated.
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Holy shit indeed, that's awful :(
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I feel like we owe @redrocket_pub an apology for wasting so much time on Corrik regarding this....
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I suppose that's the difference between you and me Corrik.

You go through all these little steps to justify being a good little boy who never troubles anyone.


I, on the other hand, prefer doing the correct thing.
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Our feelings are both irrelevant. I just can't help but notice you're trying to avoid the subject when you're being called out. I was under the impression that we were both trying to have a serious discussion here. I see that was not the case for you.


Feelings, typos, what do these accusations of yours do for your argument? Not a damned thing.
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Corrik "guarantees" the nurse wouldn't be fired, despite showing ignorance of HIPPA. Yet instead of offering any actual proof for his beliefs, we have to wait for that exact situation to occur to "know for sure".


And I'm the one talking out my ass. Really starting to regret taking you seriously.
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Corrik posted...

You literally have no clue what you are talking about if you say she would have gotten fired and that she has no grounds for a lawsuit. Might as well just say you are talking out of your ass at this point.

I admit it's been 7 years since I've really boned up on the subject. But I literally passed a class teaching this subject. Certificate and everything. This is actually something I know something about.


Was I mistaken in treating you like an actual human being and not a joke poster? Because this attack on me is making me question my decision to have a civil conversation with you.
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You would have broken the law because a police officer told you to(again, you're violating HIPPA). Your reason is irrelevant, because you have a choice not to and you didn't take it.

You more than likely get fired for it, lawfully so. You have no grounds to sue. Not unless the officer threatened you with violence I imagine.


Why go through all of that? When you can just say "No."?
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Then why should the nurse have complied?
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Corrik... your argument basically boils down to "Do the wrong thing, because you'll sue and make money later".

That's the only reason you've offered so far for the nurse disregarding the law, not to mention her moral compass, and allowing all of this to happen.


Of course if she allowed it to happen, then technically she wasn't forced to. So the police did nothing wrong, thus Not Guilty.

But she's still out of a career because yes you absolutely would get fired for a HIPPA violation.
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He'd be swimming in money, wouldn't he?
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Corrik posted...

Uhhh. She would be suing the police department.

I'd sue both if I was the patient. The cops for illegally obtaining my blood, and the nurse for allowing it to happen when she legally wasn't forced to.


Of course your argument so far is ultimately showing a very unfortunate, mercenary side to you.
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Oh and the lawsuit you mentioned?

Yeah the patient could sue the hospital. So the nurse would be less "swimming in money" and more out of a job, and out of a license.
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Well technically drawing blood requires stabbing someone with a needle....



Also you say you "can't attempt to justify" the cop's actions... yet you pretty much are justifying it when you said the nurse "should have complied" even if she was 100% right not to. All based on the faith of the courts maybe throwing out the so called evidence taken.


Answer me this Corrik. What is the benefit of complying in this situation? What does the nurse gain for obeying someone lawfully in the wrong?
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If he was "unaware" then he should just flatout be fired on the spot. "Ignorance of the law is no excuse", is it?
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Corrik posted...

So when they drew his blood upon entering the hospital while unconscious, the hospital staff both assaulted him and robbed him?

Should we throw rape in there too if they undressed him to put him in a hospital gown?

Is this a real conversation?

My fault for the wording.

No obviously, the hospital wasn't in the wrong for doing things to save that person's life. But some random jackass saying "I want a sample of this man's blood"? Nah, fuck him. Get a warrant or fuck off.



(Also I'd love if you address the HIPPA violation you appear to think the nurse should have committed)
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I'd call it theft if it was taken without my permission.
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SgtSphynx posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Wouldn't the nurse be violating HIPPA if she allowed the cop to take her patient's blood, if the cop didn't have a warrant?

As I understand it, yes, she would have violated HIPPA had she allowed the blood to be drawn

Okay yeah, so if she had absolutely no spine and just "complied" blindly, she would have probably been fired(HIPPA violations get taken pretty damn seriously), and the courts more than likely don't give a fuck about her.

Instead, she refused to do that, and the officer arrested her...essentially as a form of intimidation.
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HaRRicH posted...

I don't think the nurse did anything wrong in that video.

Nor do I. What I meant was "Don't get yourself killed" when it comes to resisting. I don't think the nurse was in any serious danger though, too many witnesses, too sympathetic a person.


But that's the thing, there's always that fear of getting killed because you said 'no' to a police officer, and they'll more than likely get away with it because God forbid the same laws apply to them as they do you or me.
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It's been a while since I've studied up on it but...

Wouldn't the nurse be violating HIPPA if she allowed the cop to take her patient's blood, if the cop didn't have a warrant?


Even if that's not the case, submitting to the police when they're in the wrong? Saying "Just let them do this wrong thing, the courts will back you up." seems less like supporting the police, and more like bending the knee. I mean yeah if the police are arresting you and you know you didn't do anything, don't get yourself killed resisting.... but you have a legal right to say 'no' to the police.

Being punished for exercising that right.... is that much different from servitude?
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Sweet!

If I don't get it this week, I'll get it the next for sure.

What's up Aga? Haven't seen you in ages!
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