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I'd love to be paid by Soros. That guy is crazy rich
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I don't know the reliability of this study, so I'll speculate freely.
My take is that there's a significant difference in how male homosexuality and female homosexuality is viewed by societal norms. When I grew up, "gay" was a big insult to guys, but never to girls. To an extent, this is still how it's used, and I think it conditions boys to be more afraid of male intimacy than it does girls and female intimacy. I've seen similar results about how many women have experimented with other women compared to men, etc.
Of course this is hard to show with evidence, but I think it makes a lot of sense.
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Musourenka posted...

Okay.

Still sounds like the GOP crying "Wolf!" for the 27th time.

This isn't the GOP crying wolf, it's Breitbart and Infowars.
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JlM posted...

Mal, what do you do for joy in life? I never see you post anything but angry political rants. What music do you listen to? What games do you play? How did you find this place and why are you still here?

Can we have a Mal AMA? Maybe with a ban on political talk?

He had a pretty good topic about critic/audience reviews recently.
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Given the usual like five posters who only add "but Mal_Fet is a libertarian who doesn't like Trump" to any discussion you enter, I feel like this was a necessary topic.
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Not seriously. As a casual fling, sure.
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So if there is a shutdown, how does it end? Do they finally cave and raise the debt ceiling anyway?
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Darkman124 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Can anyone explain this government shutdown phenomenon to a stupid foreigner?

when sweden and other countries spend more than they take in via taxes, government bonds are auctioned to cover the difference. because they can print their own money, the debt is considered very safe and has an interest rate that barely is above inflation.

when the united states spends more than they take in via taxes, they do the same, BUT, the US has a debt ceiling that limits the amount of bonds they can sell. not for any particular reason; it's not based on the cost of total payouts relative to our tax receipts or anything that would limit our ability to actually make the payments; just a big round number.

we're coming up to that big round number again. when we hit it, we either have to raise the debt ceiling, effectively admitting that we are stupid to have a ceiling, or shut down the government and only fund what we can with taxes, which means only 'critical' services such as our military.

Thanks. Is this an annual thing or just every time you're close to bumping into the ceiling?
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Can anyone explain this government shutdown phenomenon to a stupid foreigner?
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I'm not sure how your whiteness affects the heteronormativity of your life tbh
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darkjedilink posted...

True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.'

If you can't make a case without intentionally misinterpreting a short summary of a text and ignoring the context, then maybe you shouldn't
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Does this mean exhibiting or practicing any positive male traits such as increased physical strength is seen as misogynistic?

No
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It's a pretty tired and boring attitude to be so tunneled on racism and misogyny to have to be this explicit, almost pastiche like hatred and excuse/exclude all the other subtle manifestations.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Is that automatically misogyny, though?

yes
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Any time it is not very obviously heteronormative
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Misogyny by far.
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_Near_ posted...

This is bulls***.

You can say that all day, but Mal will not acknowledge that anyone except him knows what fascism is no matter what you say. Unless maybe if you agree with him :)
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Ariana Large
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What a great topic. Proudclad actually seems exasperated. Haha
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

actual facts

Hey now, Trump and Hitler are COMPLETELY different....Hitler was obviously far left duh!!!!!!!!!!!!

/s

To be fair, I don't think I posted much in terms of actual facts, rather just opinions from someone far more qualified than Mal_Fet.
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darkjedilink posted...

scar the 1 posted...

To me it looks like what's going on is that women don't have faith in the justice system when it comes to harassment and sexual abuse, and they're starting to get completely sick of it. So I don't really know how to avoid it, but I don't think that it's going to just fizzle out.

A woman called flirting 'sexual harassment,' and unironically tagged #MeToo.

A non-zero number of people in America and around the world believe asking a woman to drinks is sexual harassment.

ok
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UnfairRepresent posted...

No one has "misrepresented your point"

That's not entirely true. It's actually entirely false :)
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Doom_Art posted...

As I said, not much point in arguing with Unfair about anything. He'll misrepresent your position or do whatever else it takes to prolong his argument with you.

I know, I've clarified my point and at this point I don't have anything more to add. He can disagree all he want.
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Darksaber310 posted...

Critic score upon release:8-9/10. Audience score:4-5/10. Within 8 months said media becomes the whipping boy for every critic to chortle over how weak the entry was, as though they themselves didn't rate it the second coming. Source: every single AAA game release and big budget movie.

I don't necessarily doubt this, but do you have any nice examples?
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Ok cool. I'm not making the case that the alt-right orchestrated GamerGate, or that GamerGate was inherently alt-right. I'm making the case that the alt-right (Breitbart specifically) obviously saw a lot of potential gain in GamerGate. So much so that they started covering "Tech" just to cover it, even though it wasn't really in the scope of Breitbart's usual content.
I don't really care how much you try and trivialize it by saying that "an alt-right dude talked about it". Breitbart is and was one of the main platforms for the alt-right movement. They took a very clear and deliberate stance not just once, but continuously. I personally think they managed to fan the flames a lot on purpose, but I guess that's debatable.

Feel free to keep misrepresenting my stance and finding it unreasonable. I think I quite clearly described Breitbart's relationship to GamerGate. Of course there could be more than this, but this basic relationship is definitely relevant to TC's question. It's furthermore a part of the story that you intentionally omitted, instead just saying that the liberal media fabricated it.
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Were_Wyrm posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Were_Wyrm posted...

Not to mention ANH starts ten minutes after RO ends, why would Vader be acting all coy when he catches the ship. He knows damn good and well they have the plans.

And why would Leia be all like "We are on a diplomatic mission" when they were literally seen by Vader in the midst of a space battle.

Exactly they could have fixed all of this by adding one more scene where the ship form the battle met up with Leia's ship gave her the plans and mission to get Obi-Wan. Then after she jumps away Vader catches the ship that left Scarif.

Or they could have avoided it completely by not making a movie that explains in minute details the entire mission.
I would have liked to see a psychological thriller focusing on Galen Erso and how he had to keep up appearances while planting the weakness and successfully leaking it. More room to do things freely. More different from a regular Star Wars saga movie. Could have been awful. Or great. I'd pay for it anyway.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Yeah?

Some dude on a site wrote stuff decrying femminism?

Not only is that hardly relevant, even in your own quote you admit it occured weeks after gamergate even started.

This is kinda the point, Gamergate is "alt right" because the people who profit from it being alt-right said so. And guys like this fell for it.

The question was "What's the connection between Gamergate and Alt-right?". Your answer is incomplete, since there's more connecting them than the fact that both are male-dominated demographics. For example, the alt-right website Breitbart acted as a venue for Milo's Gamergate related articles. In fact, Breitbart spawned the whole Breitbart Tech site as a reaction to the escalation of GamerGate. Breitbart clearly saw the potential to attract followers in GamerGate. I'm not going to try and argue that they did attract followers. But they most certainly had a vested interest in the movement.
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Were_Wyrm posted...

Not to mention ANH starts ten minutes after RO ends, why would Vader be acting all coy when he catches the ship. He knows damn good and well they have the plans.

And why would Leia be all like "We are on a diplomatic mission" when they were literally seen by Vader in the midst of a space battle.
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The leek spin, Milhouse is not a meme, the stupid towel, EFG, WHEN I WAS. Memes were only really called memes on 4chan back then.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Aside from being generally male dominated there really isn't much of one.

http://thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php?title=Breitbart

Breitbart was not involved with Gamergate until Milo Yiannopoulos, an Associate Editor at Breitbart [4], wrote an article on Breitbart decrying the feminist bullies ripping into the video game industry [5] a couple of weeks after Gamergate began. Breitbart acted as a venue for Milo Yiannopoulos' Gamergate related articles.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

https://youtu.be/WF1yyGe6-xo?t=17m42s

That's the bit BTW

Thanks for the stealth bump.
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I was really tempted to click the "Help translate this video" banner
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A lot of boring crap, some fun memes and stuff. But I rarely if ever use that page. My ex would be on hers for hours.
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Heja heja. Mnga problem grundar sig i dlig sjlvknsla. Det r skitjobbigt att gra nt t, men det gr om man har rtt verktyg.
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I just read opinions. Scores only serve to pique my interest, not give me expectations. If I see a thousand angry Star Wars fans ranting about how The Last Jedi was bad because Snoke died/Luke didn't get a mega awesome lightsaber fight then that tells me a lot more about whether I'll enjoy the movie or not.
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I for one quite enjoyed both Dijon mustardgate and two scoopsgate.
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I think the most striking comparison with Hitler is the way Trump addresses the press. His fake news mantra is very similar to the "Lgenpresse" slogan. Of course one can sit and make more comparisons if one wishes, but it feels so done.
If you really want to discuss the merits of Trump being fascist or fascistoid (which Mal_Fet certainly doesn't - for one he thinks he has the one true definition of fascism while actual experts still disagree), feel free to listen to people who actually do research about fascism:

http://www.versopolis.com/long-read/440/is-trump-really-a-fascist
Kevin Passmore is a professor of history at Cardiff University and the author of A Very Short Guide to Fascism.

After decades of research, academicsmyself includedhave been unable to agree on the proper definition of a fascist. Some see it as a conservative ideology, protecting property and capitalism; others see it as reshaping society in the name of revolutionary nationalism.
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So what are the similarities and differences between Fascism, Nazism, and the modern far right? Confining our attention to the question of legitimacy, the modern far right, like the Fascists and Nazis, claims to represent the people against the liberal elite, especially the press. Trump boasts that he takes his message directly to the people. Indeed, Trumps words sometimes seem like a direct borrowing of Nazi terms. The Presidents expression lying press echoes the slogan of Pegida and the AfD in Germany, which in turn echo Nazi denunciations of the lying press (Lgenpresse). Another similarity is the support for the modern far right of often wealthy and powerful conservative elementsin neither the U.S. nor Europe is the far right simply a movement of the disaffected working class. There are well-documented struggles within far-right movements to define its direction.

Notwithstanding the populism common among the far rights of then and now, a major difference is that these days there is no equivalent of the mass paramilitary movement, able to subvert constitutional politics by the threat or reality of violence. Of course, there are violent tendencies within modern movements, encouraged by Trump among others. The racist language of the far right encourages attacks on minorities, and there are violent groups attached to movements such as the English Defence League. But the far right these days has not engaged in the systematic destruction of trade unions or socialist local governments and other potential threats to their power that happened in Italy. In Germany, Nazi violence prior to winning power was much less extensive, but in power it went much further than the Italian regime.

So try to read Mal's posts less, and historians' posts more. And I don't mean "historian" in the very silly technical way that "everyone who studies history is a historian", I mean actual authorities on the subject.
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To me it looks like what's going on is that women don't have faith in the justice system when it comes to harassment and sexual abuse, and they're starting to get completely sick of it. So I don't really know how to avoid it, but I don't think that it's going to just fizzle out.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

It reminds me of that bit in Stil-Life where the stairs collaspe and the girl is about to plummet to her death before her buddy grabs her at the last minute and hoists her back to safety.

The literal first thing out of her mouth is sassy comment about him grabbing her breasts in order to prevent her painful demise.

And it's like "Dude, he just saved you life, you just nearly died.... And you're on his back for THAT!?"

Yeah but surely you don't mean to compare having sex with saving someone's life.
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See I told yall he'd come around
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Every boss in LoZ can be violenced to death, except for dondongos, and Ganon, who does not have a "repeat two more times".

Every boss in AoL is violenced to death, except the wizard guy who dies to reflect. No "repeat two more times"

Every boss in LttP is violenced to death, apart from the proto-"tennis match" guys.

I was more commenting on the whole "wait for weak points to appear". LoZ has Gohma, IDK how she's (he?) violenced to death, and you mentioned Ganon.
AoL was a bit of a stretch I admit, as I was mainly thinking of the Darknut with the horse and his shield and stuff. Technically you have to wait for the weak point to appear on the dragon in dungeon six also, but I don't like to argue on technicalities, so I'll retract that.
For ALttP I was thinking mainly of the water boss thing where you had to hookshot away all those small things to get at the big thing, but maybe those were just two different phases? But you've conceded Aghanim :)
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Tmk posted...

by the numbers "classic" Zelda boss

"Wait for weakpoint to appear, wail on it, repeat two more times" didn't really exist before OOT.

Except for LoZ, AoL, ALttP and LA.
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CapnMuffin posted...

fire_bolt posted...

Since it intentionally has cartoony graphics it looks fine. Only games trying from realism age badly graphically. Story is as good as ever, and the added content on the DS version closes up a few loopholes Chrono Cross created.

Mechanics-wise, it's super easy and ATB feels clunky. Probably would have been better as either full turn based or something like Secret Of Mana

Interesting side note. CT and SoM branched off as separate games. Originally it was going to be one massive project. So in some alternate timeline we have a Square RPG that is a little bit of both.

I never heard this, source? Sounds interesting.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

way too much real estate coupled with directionless exploration and experimentation just make for a game that wear out its welcome way sooner than later since you can easily spend a full gaming session not getting any real progress.

I dunno I really like that they went back to the roots of Zelda 1 with this. Essentially I just wish that they'd condensed more shrines into actual dungeons. Also, the world is really big which is cool, but I'd love it if they put more varied content instead of what's there now. Oh and tweaks to stuff like item durabilities are in order, and maybe add back some comfort items like boomerang or hookshot or something. But definitely put them early so you don't gate areas with progression items.

The open worldiness and directionlessness is perfect, though.
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BruceWayneJr posted...

Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic 2

>jrpgs
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coolcono posted...

scar the 1 posted...

SMO has a coupld of RPGs?

Super Mario Odyssey.

Super Mario Odyssey has a couple of RPGs?
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I think it does a lot of things right, but I'm looking forward to a polished sequel.
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SMO has a couple of RPGs?
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I think so, yeah. For me a game hasn't aged well if it becomes tedious to play because of bad/clunky UI etc. In that sense, the top SNES RPGs are still great. Some of them still have complex enough mechanics as well, so that they're actually interesting to play. I just am not very partial to CT in general.
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