Lurker > CM_Ponch

Yeah it's a big disappointment and I'm noticing now that the honeymoon phase is over more people are seeing how mediocre the game is

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This is the same hospital that had the child porn pharmacist.

Sure they did.

So you're OK with one arbitrary shortcut but not another.

Unless someone just hands it to you.

The cost should be time spent practicing and improving nit time wasted on grinding. No other competitive game has anything like this.

Zatch Bell is better. It's an entire series of a well sculpted tournament arc.

Yep, it shows by the ample lack of proof you have provided.

Removing genning just decreases the player pool since most people won't be able to keep course with the meta unless they have the necessary support to do so

That not an issue with genning, that an issue with the format itself. Removing genning just decreases the player pool since most people won't be able to keep course with the meta unless they have the necessary support to do so. This most likely screw over newer players.

lol, didn't seem to work out for this guy.

What I don't understand is why it's an issue to skip the raising and breeding process by generating Pokemon, but not an issue to skip the raising and breeding process by trading. If both Pokemon have legal movesets, stat lines and abilities, then it's a completely even playing field when it's time to actually battle.

You do understand that I agreed with the later half of that and not the first part, right? Not that it is actually relevant to the part where you lied about me being "fine with cheating" while you're fine doing it yourself which you don't want to address, just like the rest that you're ignoring.

Has gotten explained several times and isn't relevant to the actual argument.

You're right about that and it is funny to see them complain about their bad hacks getting detected.

Please note I'm not asking why Nintendo banned sloppily generated Pokemon. I'm asking what difference it makes on a competitive level. As in, if I was a player in that tournament, what difference does it make if my opponent is using a generated team versus an opponent who is using borrowed Pokemon.

It had the effort of a 3rd party put into it, but not that of the competitor

They have longer prep time than 24 hours.

Also a lot of irony in you lying about others being "fine with cheating" when you have no issues with it yourself.

But again, from a COMPETITIVE standpoint, why does that matter? In this scenario, we're talking about two people who skipped the process of raising it themselves. One traded it from another player, and one generated it.

If being able to generate Pokemon is an unfair advantage, I don't understand why having money and connections also wouldn't be considered an unfair advantage.

You don't give a s*** about this when you made a very specific scenario to put genning at an "advantage" while needing additional rules to help you even more and then flopped around when you needed to address the serious answer. By the way, that also isn't relevant to the actual argument again.

You will quote where I said that cheating is fine. Wouldn't want to show that you're lying now.

Why are you complaining about me ignoring something when you literally ignore the later half that addresses that s*** point you're trying to make. And you yourself are putting B at a disadvantage now because they need a computer, good job.

Which has gotten explained to you several times. Nor is it actually relevant to that argument.

From a competitive standpoint, why does this matter at all? Throughout this topic, you've been saying that if people don't want to put in the time, then don't enter. Why is it ok to skip the time sink process by paying money for someones team, but not ok through other means like generating a team?

Which ones are saying that besides people with obvious bad hacks because every time I see one justifying it they say it's because of ease of use or because they don't have time to get the right stuff because of something like real life.

But serious answer, neither because it doesn't take long to fix it and both can still practice during their fix time.

Actually the entire point of genning pokemon is o get to playing the game faster. Because battling is the actual game.

Why are you quoting the post where I pointed out you ignored the actual answer and not the one with the actual serious answer in it? Oh right, rather go through hoops than admit that you're wrong while showing you don't care about what you say.

There's a lot of irony in saying that someone is going through hoops when you're the one picking a very specific and very bad scenario and putting in additional rules when you get countered.

The fact that you don't even respond to the actual serious answer while being so sure of yourself is also interesting.

It got pointed out, no idea why you're asking that. And no going through any hoops so you don't have to address it, wouldn't want to show that you don't care about what you just complained about.

The fact that you don't even respond to the actual serious answer while being so sure of yourself is also interesting.

Person A because they didn't make a mistake during genning which flagged the pokemon as an obvious hack that person B is spending 5 hours to figure out. And this could actually be a legit reason if you want to get technical, B is at a bigger risk of getting caught the more gets edited.

But serious answer, neither because it doesn't take long to fix it and both can still practice during their fix time.

I am entitled to call out the rules for their stupidity and shame the company for not doing better.

Because time is limited and valuable and not something that should be needlessly wasted.

If it doesn't give an unfair advantage, and this doesn't, it's not cheating. End of story.

It wasn't legal because Nintendo are dumb. Still not cheating.

Well this does change things a little but it's still not cheating. Focusing in the setup of the team(beyond making sure it's in legal bounds) over the actual gameplay is ridiculously stupid. This is like saying a counterstrike team should be disqualified because they practiced in a non standard manner.

It matters quite a bit in fact. They didn't cheat. Everything they used was within legal bounds.

Cuz I'd rather use that extra time to cook a steak, or work out, or deed to big titty porn rather than monotonously running eggs around until I hatch like 50 of them for the right mon and then grind out levels and items for it

Because Nintendo is f***ing stupid regarding things like this. There's no reason the process needs to take weeks as you grind for rng, especially with a meta that changes as fast as pokemon.

Breeding anything doesn't take long at all either, let's say only 1 hour considering you're fine picking how long it takes B, yet you instantly saw it as a handicap while ignoring that things like showdown exist so yes, you were stacking it against person A with a very specific scenario to begin with.

Are you gonna argue that all the legit players need a year to breed their team?

How can B practice for 24 hours when they need to learn how to hack their switch and how to get genned pokemon for 23 hours? See, I can stack it against someone too.

Person C who had everything ready already and has been practicing with it for 100 hours for no reason.

As a serious answer, neither of them since they can both practice for 24 hours.

That's what I said originally yes, but at the same time breeders can do those things too. It honestly only depends on your view of it. Do you side with genners when they say that breeders are able to do those things at the same time or do you side with breeders when they say that genners have more time or the potential to have more time for those things.

That's like saying taking a 5 min taxi to the boxing ring is an advantage to riding a 30 min bike to the boxing ring. Which is to say "I guess, but literally why wouldnt you take a taxi if the option is there bro? lol"

It's still faster

it can give more time to do the important things,