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AceMos posted...

as a fictional character will never be able to give consent

Correct.

So why do people bother to police others over it?

Was wondering where my post went when I realized this was a second topic.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80570573

Isnt this old news?

Or wait, last time was a crowdfunder or something.

thronedfire2 posted...

have you ever noticed that shooting games are only associated with actual shootings in one country in particular?

Yes, and?

Video games arent the sole factor either way.

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Are you this indignant about shooting games and actual shootings too?

Or shows like Family Guy and South Park?

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Only if you cant separate fiction from reality.

And even then, people are selective on what they want to condemn.

asdf8562 posted...

Oh wow, so my earlier summation was correct.

You are upset people want less lolis, and characters that are drawn to look, sound and or act like children, sexualized.

Other than to out yourself more and more, what do you hope to accomplish here digging more and to more trying to convince everyone sexualized children need a pass in games? Rhetorical question btw, as your responses here says all I need to know.....

Since you still lack reading comprehension, Im not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of wanting to fuck fictional bears is okay because at least theyre an adult, but gotta protect the fictional lolis, even if theyre of age.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/0/AAIG1JAAEHqE.png

Reminder that age of consent doesnt actually apply to fictional characters anyway.

Murphiroth posted...

Bro Mass Effect literally had Fox News segments about the sexual content.

And Dragon's Crown was like a decade ago, y'all gotta let that one go.

Schreirer is still in the business and is somehow not a laughingstock despite covering for Blizzard at the height of their scandals, so no, one should not let his words go away that easily.

The dragon consented to being a mother.

https://youtu.be/O5Z-Q3-RGdg

Frolex posted...

"If i put the word sexual assault in scare quotes I won't look like a creep"

Naked people are funny, bro.

Its not like youre actually groping or raping the people after you strip them.

pauIie posted...

3000 year old dragons that look like what, though?

Shapeshifters that look like what?

pauIie posted...

you can be more haha about fucking bears because humans aren't raping bears.

Humans arent raping 3000 year old dragons either.

Frolex posted...

maybe because the game you're posting screenshots of is literally centered around committing sexual assaults as a gameplay mechanic

Literally the sexual assaults are presented as a joke too. And its fucking fun to get those strip combos.

I4NRulez posted...

Its not presented as a serious thing.

There's a druid character named Halsin who you can romance. If you romance him you get a cutscene where you kiss and he gets overcome with emotion and turns into a bear and he's like my bad. You then get an option to tell him to change back or stay as the bear.

If you stay as the bear your character says a funny line and it cuts to a squirrel looking shocked. Its all presented as a joke.

This isnt actually a defense though. Unless you want to say JP games can do the same thing too if its presented as a joke.

@DKBananaSlamma just posted this.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

Beat my sister in a video game and asked her to strip naked for me >_____>

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/5/AAfOu0AAEvln.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/6/AAfOu0AAEvlo.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/7/AAfOu0AAEvlp.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/8/AAfOu0AAEvlq.jpg

Bruh, I just bathed with you! <_<

This fucking game is ridiculous lol

But you wouldnt treat that with the same brevity as the bear fucking.

Murphiroth posted...

If you don't care what they say then why are you whining? Why did you even make this topic if you don't care?

And you absolutely backpedaled hard when asked where exactly FFXVI got any significant flack for sexual content.

Because they still have an audience? One that apparently resonates with half of CE, apparently.

If you want to keep bringing up Tekken, whats your stance on Lucky Chloe?

Murphiroth posted...

Go for it?

Thought game journalists didn't matter though. And Resetera should matter even less.

Really just sounds to me like you're salty that your nuanced take on age of consent isn't widely accepted tbqh.

Youre right, I dont care about what they say. But youre not giving me a lot of choice if youre saying Im making shit up or backpedaling.

asdf8562 posted...

Actually read what I posted.
I did not say they don't exist, I said I don't see this wide acceptance of them like you claimed. Someone in this topic being okay with furries is not proof they are widely accepted. Your argument also doesn't apply to me as I have already stated I'm not a fan of the furry crowd either.

You didn't actually answer my question, but your actions are certainly answered my question.

I asked you is your entire defense in this topic that lolis and characters that are drawn to look, sound and or act like children should be okay to be sexualized as long as they are "legal"..... because the furry crowd exists?

You literal response to my question was to go crying about lolis getting bashed but furries getting a pass. Which tells me the answer to my question is, yes.

I apparently need to bold where youre wrong for you to get the idea.

Murphiroth posted...

Nah you just use FFXVI as a made up example and then backpedal hard when called out on it.

You really want me to link to Kotaku or Resetera to prove a point?

asdf8562 posted...

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I have not a clue what you're talking about on furries being more accepted as I don't see anyone liking them either beyond furry lovers. For the record again, I dislike furries and that base too.

More importantly you dodged my question. Is your defense in this topic that lolis and characters that are drawn to look, sound and or act like children should be okay to be sexualized as long as they are "legal"..... because the furry crowd exists?

I answered, you just didnt accept it because youre refusing to see the furry defense happening in this very topic, let alone everywhere else in the nerd mainstream.

Its not that they exist. Its that they get a pass when lolis dont.

ArtiRock posted...

Yeah, after you brought them up.

So youre just making up bullshit about Vtubers to disregard an argument.

Meanwhile, I dont have to make shit up about furries to make my case.

What the fuck? You said this.

ArtiRock posted...

Uh... Vtubers have a lot of weird sexual allegations and what not. Don't even. I didn't realize that "Vtuber" was a race now lmao.

asdf8562 posted...

So TC, is your entire defense in this topic that lolis and characters that are drawn to look, sound and or act like children should be okay to be sexualized as long as they are "legal"..... because the furry crowd exists?

Once again I would like to state for the record I don't defend furries either.

I dont care that furries exist. But they are definitely more accepted despite being even more degenerate. I already mentioned SonicFox and the FGC.

ArtiRock posted...

Yeah, they do. And this is still a bad case. The character herself is fine. But not something that should be sexualized.

No, I didn't. What I actually said was "you can't just lump sum them." And then your response is to mention Vtubers that also have this issue as if they are a clean slate as well. Your arguments are all over the place. Like you're basically screeching "you aren't allowed to enjoy things I don't." What you did would be like using Catholics as an example of not being sexual in nature.

Okay, what Vtuber sexual allegations are even relevant in this discussion?

ArtiRock posted...

Okay? You can have that be a part of a character without sexualizing that. So what's your point here? It seems like your real argument is that you wanted to steer towards "oogling children is okay."

Uh... Vtubers have a lot of weird sexual allegations and what not. Don't even. I didn't realize that "Vtuber" was a race now lmao.

Nobody cares about her character, only appearance. You yourself are dismissing it right now.

Okay, now this is rich. Youll excuse sexual allegations with furries, but condemn Vtubers for some supposed incidents which Ive never heard of? What Vtuber has sexual allegations exactly?

ArtiRock posted...

Sorta? Because the adult that looks like a teenager doesn't behave like they are a teenager.

Easy, because the druid isn't mentally a child. The problem is that it's a "this is a child in all components but *wink wink* she's actually 3000 years old!" If she acted like an older person but just LOOKED young no one would probably care. Young looking people still deserve love.

V-tubers are a cesspool of problems and you're siting THAT as an example? :/

Literally the most cited example of loli dragon is capable of acting like a mother to her daughter, but people choose to ignore that because she *chooses* to be childish to cope with her outliving everyone she gets to know and love.

Oh, do tell what the problem is with Vtubers. Feels like youre telling on yourself with the racism at this point.

Tell me again how 3000 years old loli is still underage, but shapeshifting bestiality is not bestiality.

Hell, we can even use Vtubers as an example. One of the most popular loli Vtubers is between 9000-10000 years old, shes clearly an adult woman behind the persona, yet she still has to deal with stop sexualizing the loli arguments.

Murphiroth posted...

Who is actually mad about this that matters though? Like for real.

Because from what I've seen you've used a made up example in FFXVI and backpedaled, then Dragon's Crown which is like a 10+ year old controversy at this point.

No one actually gives a shit how you get your rocks off, my guy, as long as it's not to kids.

You know, this is the only thing Ill be willing to concede on, since game journalists arent real people.

But no, I also dont accept that anime children bad, bear druid good. Tired of this nonsense where age of consent somehow applies to fictional characters, but bestiality and other degenerate fetishes dont.

We had the same discussion with TLOU2 back then, but people werent quite as enthusiastic as the opening tweet. It was all memes about Abby fucking and how un-sexy it actually looked, but the complaints about double standards were still there.

Now bear sexualization is being celebrated, and not just in a haha funny meme way either. Its people bending over backwards about how borderline bestiality is actually safe horny, but how dare you get titillation in a Japanese game.

ArtiRock posted...

Because that bear is a druid so fucking a bear is still fine because the bear can willingly consent and knows what's going on when he's plowing your ass.

No it isn't. Because when the bear reverts back to their normal look, they aren't a child.

Furries get more of a pass because they generally want to fuck adults. Now you're just kink shaming people.

And sexy females are fine too, the fuck? Anna from Tekken is hot, sexualized as fuck and no one complains because she is an adult, fun to play, and there are also serious women like master raven or Kasumi that weren't necessarily hypersexualized. Christie is considered sexy, and the only dislike for her isn't her looks, but rather her character. She's certainly easier on the eyes than Eddy.

Furries are way more frequently caught grooming children and/or being sex pests in general, but thats not a discussion for here.

So its fine if the child has an adult form? Lol, that clearly hasnt applied for JP either.

Your counterexamples are meaningless, because there are clearly adults in games like DOA and that gets complaints too. Even Bayonetta got a weird flip-flop in the public view when she went from empowered female in charge of her sexuality to oh no shes straight, time to crucify her.

asdf8562 posted...

For starters, furries are not championed either to be sexualized except by the furry crowd.

Fighting game community.

Then again, this is the same community that also has many grooming scandals, so theyre hardly a bastion of anything.

Still, public opinion and all that. People like SonicFox are treated as brave instead of degenerate, for some reason.

Why does looking like a child matter, but a fucking bear doesnt?

The bear is actually an adult is literally the same excuse as the dragon/goddess/whatever loli is actually 3000 years old. Doesnt change what is actually depicted onscreen as being fucked.

I know furries get a pass more than lolicons in the general public nowadays, but youre being way more obtuse by making this just an age thing.

Rex got popular after being sexualized, arguably. And no one was giving swimsuit trunks Shulk any vitriol either. Sexualizing dudes is okay because its not male gaze, apparently.

Murphiroth posted...

Where did FFXVI get lambasted for sexual content in any significant way?

blackrider76 posted...

Im not digging through Twitter for braindead FF16 takes, so Ill just drop that.

Honestly, Im taking the responses to the PC Gamer tweet that there was discourse of that nature at face value, but I havent personally seen it.

Ive seen more of the FF16 is racist or some other garbage takes more, so I dont doubt there were some prudish takes as well.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

I hated Rex until it turned out he was a Giga Chad, then I unironically loved Rex >_>

I remember the turnaround for I dont want Rex in Smash Bros, just Pyra/Mythra is good to holy shit Rex is so based, best XB lead ever.

ArtiRock posted...

Ff16 has been met with praise mostly, what? People shit on dragon's crown for that because its designs were not impartial. If you design the women like that, men should also be hyper sexualized too. Otherwise it is jarring and distracting. In Xenoblade 2, it was the duality of men and women designs that made it obvious.

They don't look underage. Try again.

Im not digging through Twitter for braindead FF16 takes, so Ill just drop that.

Dragons Crown gave the men equally ridiculous proportions, what? The creator even took the opportunity to shit on Schreirer by sexualizing the men for his dumbass Sorceress and her giant tiddies is for pedophiles take.

The sheer amount of vitriol for XB3 spoilers makes it clear it wasnt just a men vs women thing. People hated Rex until that point.

Also stop making me google weird Western shit to prove a point.

https://imgur.com/EJ9ZDL1.png

Games like FF16 didnt have lolis and got lambasted. People shit on the big tiddy waifus in games like Dragons Crown and Xenoblade too, so its not just an underage thing.

Meanwhile, BG3 has dwarves/halflings that would get called underage in a JP setting.

Next?

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1689445234881515520

ellis123 posted...

the game is awful

ur awful

Yeah, I know, lol Apex, but still, how do you go from a character that can:

-silence abilities but without being a broken piece of shit (read: Seer)

-second life

to literally just a crappier version of Winston from Overwatch?

Turbam posted...

They were making fun of the "1000 year old Loli" trope, and you posted a 500 year old Loli :V

Next to a 500-year-old big sister-type fox.

But that was after posting a 1000+ year old non-loli Cocogoat.

What point *are* you trying to make?

ellis123 posted...

How much you wanna bet she is 1000+ years old?

I cant believe the game that features gods and mythical creatures has characters over 1000 years old.

Lest we forget this official ad.

https://twitter.com/genshinimpact/status/1585899731636600833

refmon posted...

All the Genshin Impact characters look 12

they didnt punish him enough

NatsuSama posted...

Are we talking about drawing lolis and 12 year old porn that people call art?

Fair, next.

This says more about you guys that you think this is loli.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/1/AAIG1JAAEuv9.jpg

It looks like this particular artist did animations for Ganyu, Signora, Raiden, Miko, Eula, Shenhe, Nilou, etc.

https://twitter.com/mahjongsoul_en/status/1688045880358899713

5* Airi

But thats Menace.

https://twitter.com/phaseconnect/status/1687629498307751938

While there are some people who will get offended by 9/11 memes, its probably better to point out how there were dumbass Americans who were celebrating earthquakes and tsunamis as retribution for Pearl Harbor.

Under Nahida's official videos, you can see comments like "I want to lick her feet" or "Nahida my wife" with thousands of likes. I don't believe there are so many pedophiles in China, so I guess they were joking. But, after versions 3.3 and 3.6, many Nahida fans cried they were cheated. They said Nahida used to love them but Scara took her away. They even wrote short dirty novels between these two.

Im not surprised they were doxxed.

I miss TERAs Elins.

Why is it woke to want a Japanese MC for a game set in Japan?

Also lol at using an AI generated image.

Kradek posted...

I was thinking something similar. Netflix did an interesting anime I enjoyed on Yasuke.

I suppose interesting is one way to describe an anime that shoved in mechs to a feudal era setting for no reason.

Nay.

Mind you, Im not particularly fan of yuri either.

I can settle for tentacle yuri though.

Yeah, I dont know how much of the chad comments are sarcasm, but Ive heard that the things he (or men in general) are painted as bad end up actually looking cool, so the movies message gets muddled somehow.

Eh. I probably need to see it for myself.