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He's teaching them sweat words? Like "perspiration"?

Just out of curiosity, because I literally have no idea, given that Gaza has a sea on the west side, what stops them from just walking down the beach into Egypt? Is there a fence that goes out into the sea or some shit?

UnrivaledKoopa posted...

Saw MSF was complaining that Israel gave them a short window to evacuate a hospital where they were treating patients. Things are getting juuuust a tad out of hand.

Maybe Israel thinks this is the only way to get rid of HAMAS. They might even be right. Still, at some point anyone has to ask if its worth it.

I mean, if you were being attacked randomly with rockets, at what point would you stop yourself short and just continue living with the rocket attacks?

KI_Simpson posted...

When you're praising one of the biggest fast food chains in the world for not being corporate and sterile, maybe you should consider whether you're letting nostalgia cloud your judgment.

40 years ago, you could get better quality food for less money, the portions could be bigger for less money, there were less chemicals in everything, and less cut corners. Fast food was never amazing food, but it has become a race to the bottom, to squeeze every penny they can, meaning cutting any corner they can, making food smaller, bloated with more fillers, more chemicals, resulting in an addictive, but less food-like end product.

Fuck, even 10 years ago, you could at least get a "nicer" lettuce on your food at McDonalds. A little romaine or something. You know what a "deluxe" chicken sandwich is now? Fucking shredded iceberg with a tomato on it.

BakonBitz posted...

Lol, for sure, I actually agree. It's decent food, at least the ones I've been to. I guess it's just fun to dunk on places like Applebee's and Olive Garden.

It definitely seems like a meme. Like if anyone here was offered a free meal at any of these places, they'd probably take it.

Appetizer sample. It is cheese sticks, boneless wings, quesadillas with salsa, and tortilla chips with spinach artichoke dip.

NoMeLx22x posted...

Do you mean like bombing hospitals or holding civilian populations without electricity, water, and food? Like those war crimes as well?

The key component of your comment being "war crimes", because they break the rules of war.

The review bombing doesn't really mean much to me. Pissed off people like to bitch and whine, and then lots of other people join in as a meme.

The fact that Overwatch 2 was at some point the worst reviewed game on Steam, when it absolutely isn't the worst game on Steam, shows how meaningless the review system actually is.

The game is far from perfect, the microtransactions are certainly worse than loot boxes, and the gutting of PvE was a huge loss, but what is there is still a fairly solid multiplayer shooter.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Yeah man this is the horror of war. Again, it could be said about IDF as well. There's decades of well documented instances of IDF soldiers raping and murdering innocent women and children. These despicable things happen and anyone involved should be held accountable.

That being said there is no evidence that they've decapitated children.

No, it actually isn't the horror of war, because war has rules of engagement, and none of this is even remotely in line with that.

Smashingpmkns posted...

This could be said about literally any military in any war at any part of time. Including IDF. Just because something could happen doesn't mean it has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bih97bEBlDY

Here is a report from the BBC. Nothing specific about babies, but they went through a neighborhood killing non-combatant families, and decapitating people. So the murder is palatable for them, decapitating people is palatable for them, but killing and decapitating babies is a bridge too far?

Smashingpmkns posted...

There's been no confirmation of babies being beheaded.

Why wouldn't they behead babies? They kill non-combatant women and children, so is the murder palatable for them, but not beheading?

I hope the new Switch isn't backwards compatible. And by that, I mean I hope the new Switch just carries the entirety of the old Switch forward as if it isn't even a "feature" to do so anymore. Everything the Switch presently has on it should just exist flawlessly on a new system, as if there is no difference or gap whatsoever, just like how the games I bought on Steam 20 years ago are still available to me now.

Lokarin posted...

Every time Florida sins, they get hotter... ooooops

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/26/climate/florida-100-degree-water.html

It probably doesn't help them they being in the camp that doesn't give a shit about climate change. They'll vote red until they are underwater.

adjl posted...

That's pretty clearly what this curriculum is claiming by to highlighting the benefits of slavery and downplay the historical disadvantages faced by black Americans.

Well, that's fuck up, and not what I'm about. I generally think most of what goes on in Florida is the opposite of what they should be doing.

sveksii posted...

Do they? How does a life that has experienced nothing but suffering from the day their born to the day they die and never had a moment of enjoyment in their life to the point that they wish they were never born till the day they die benefit from their own existence?

Non-existence isn't an experience, only through living can they even formulate a position on their own being.

The argument that people experience benefits from past tragedies is reliant on knowing how history would unfold if the tragedy hadn't happened in the first place. As there is no way to know how history would unfold if the tragedies never happened in the first place, your argument has no merit because you cannot prove that there is a benefit that was derived from the tragedy that wouldn't exist if the tragedy had never occurred in the first place.

On that note, while WWII might of been a catalyst for your grandparents meeting/having a child, you have no way to prove that they wouldn't have met/led to your existence for other reasons if WWII never happened.

Nope, it is literally the opposite, where what presently is can only be attributed to what has been, explicitly because there is no other alternative.

adjl posted...

Of course, in this case, it is actually wrong, or at least a gross misrepresentation of the situation. Slaves did learn skills while enslaved, certainly, but the vast majority of those skills were really only useful if they wanted to go work for the people that had had slaves filling those positions up until it became illegal. Skills that would allow them to branch out and advance in society were not taught to them, and in many states it was actually outright illegal to teach such things to slaves (literacy being a major one). Presenting slavery as being somehow an educational experience that offset the atrocities committed is outright false, and is being done here not because it's a position that has any objective merit, but solely for the sake of pushing the narrative that black Americans have not been historically disadvantaged and white Americans have done no wrong throughout history. It is blatant white supremacist indoctrination. Calling it anything else is either blind or complicit. Take your pick.

You're making these weird comments like it "offsets the atrocities". Nobody is arguing something "offsets" something else. What is being said is that people alive today have benefitted from turmoil faced by past generations, which is true of everyone, not any particular group.

The modern inhabitants of England experience the benefits of their long-ago ancestors being invaded by Romans first, and Normans later.

The modern inhabitants of Japan experience the benefits of their ancestors having reformed their national identity following a stunning loss during attempted imperial aggression and expansion.

The modern inhabitants of Germany experience the benefits of their ancestors having lost two wars of aggression twice.

The modern inhabitants of South Korea experience the benefits of their ancestors having suffered a war that tore their country in two.

Everything we are, and where we are, is contingent on who we've been and what has been done. If nothing beneficial comes from tragedy, then there is simply no room to recognize any benefit, because there is always tragedy.

ReturnOfFa posted...

I would suggest that you benefited from their geological location.

It was a number of factors. Those factors were facilitated by a major world event, that event being WW2.

ReturnOfFa posted...

Also, if you weren't born, there wouldn't be any discussion on the benefits of your existence. You're not that important.

None of us are important. We could destroy our entire solar system right now and the universe wouldn't wobble one iota.\

Edit: Indeed, if I wasn't born, there wouldn't be any discussion of my existence. So you can see how existing benefits me, at least in so far as holding this discussion is concerned.

ReturnOfFa posted...

Ah yes, you're smarter than Geddy, got it.

What if your parents met without the circumstances of WWII? What if something else happened in the 30s and 40s that allowed a German woman and American man to meet and create you?

Then in that timeline, those circumstances would have benefitted me, just like how in the actual timeline, the circumstances that benefitted me were contingent on WW2.

ReturnOfFa posted...

You were born due to circumstance, not necessarily due to WWII. You should be thankful for the circumstances of your parents meeting (chance), not for the entirety of WWII. Should we ask Geddy Lee, whose parents met in a concentration camp, if he believes WWII benefited him? Does he state this in his detailed interviews on the subject? No, because he is more intelligent than you.

He doesn't seem more intelligent than me, if he doesn't understand his existence to be a benefit to him.

Edit: Everyone benefits from their own existence. So if you benefit from your own existence, how are the circumstances leading to your existence not beneficial to you? It doesn't make it a good situation for others, but it makes it beneficial to you.

ReturnOfFa posted...

You were born due to circumstance, not necessarily due to WWII. You should be thankful for the circumstances of your parents meeting (chance), not for the entirety of WWII.

It was my grandparents, and the circumstance for them meeting was a directly result of WW2.

ReturnOfFa posted...

dumb way to put it

No it isn't. There are upsides to bad shit, and downsides to good shit.

I benefit greatly from WW2 having happened. A German woman and a US soldier led to my existence. Do I not benefit from living? Tell me how I'm incorrect about WW2 benefitting me.

adjl posted...

Technically, if a guy reaches on to some train tracks to pick up a dime, but then trips and falls and a train runs over his legs, getting an extra dime is still a benefit he's gained from the whole situation. Saying "Look on the bright side, at least you found a dime!" probably isn't going to go over too well with the guy who's lapsing in and out of consciousness as the paramedics desperately try to slow the bleeding so he can actually live long enough to have a traumatic disability to overcome, but it's not technically wrong. It's just useless, insensitive, and does nothing to justify the overall situation. I believe that's what he was getting at.

If you bend over to pick up a dime, trip and fall, and a train runs over your legs, then you end up getting millions of dollars from the train company, the millions would be a benefit of having lost your legs in the accident, yeah?

If you bend over to pick up a dime, trip and fall, and a train runs over your legs, then you end up in the hospital where you meet someone you fall in love with, then that chance meeting being the result of the accident would be a benefit derived from the accident, yeah?

Edit: I'm alive today because two people met as a result of WW2. So you're going to tell me, given that my entire existence was contingent on WW2 happening, I didn't benefit from WW2?

I mean, everything benefits people in some way, even bad shit. Just because something has an upside doesn't make it good.

I think the solution is to not use Tinder. I mean, really, how desperate are you to try to use people as disposable commodities? The entire app is a toxic wasteland of negative human traits.

I saw a guy on a jet ski get his arm hacked off by a boat once because of a collision. My aunt and uncle put the guy up on the back of their boat, and went through like AAAAAALL the towels trying to stop the bleeding while we got him back to shore. That was decades ago. I wonder what happened to the guy, but I won't lie, he seemed like a real trooper for a guy that has his arm hanging on by a single string of flesh.

papercup posted...

Its not like theyre the ones seeing the money from sales. Game development gets funded from investors or publishers.

They are the ones seeing money from the sales in the sense that being employed gets them paid, and they are more likely to be employed if the thing they worked on has success.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

Today, more than ever, society values appearance. Are you obsessed with yours?

I know I sure am. I spend too much time trying to look like I'm in my 20s for a woman who is closer to my 40s.

Zero percent. I roll out of bed in the morning and sit around the house in my underwears. I can't remember the last time I used a comb. My clothing exists solely to protect the public from my nudity, and my shoes exist solely to protect my feet from sharp objects.

What are you generating wealth for? Existence is literally just surviving and staving off boredom. Any wealth you generate is going to be spent in the pursuit of those things. Video games achieve the latter.

NeoSioType posted...

Tree of Knowledge is like a repackaged Prometheus or Pandora's box.

The Buddha story about being curious and realizing death in the world is also similar.

And now that I think about it, I wonder where the phrase "curiosity kills the cat" comes from?

Keep digging and see what happens when you find out.

If they killed it, how would they follow it?

OhhhJa posted...

Unless, of course, your consciousness isnt what you perceive it to be. It's natural to believe that your consciousness is simply you, an individual, completely separate from the rest of the matter around you. For all we know, your mind could be the only really consciousness and everything you perceive to be someone else is just an illusion. Perhaps we're just the universe dreaming and none of us are real. We exist seemingly in a sea of information without the faintest clue of why or how any of this exists in the first place. I think it's somewhat shortsighted to definitively assert that there is no god/being/phenomenon beyond our universe or if this universe is even "real" in the first place even if that god or being doesn't give a shit about us

You're right that none of this affects our day to day lives and we can live and die without ever knowing the answers and it would have zero impact on us (which is why i dont really think about this stuff much). But that doesn't mean there isn't something beyond this plane of existence nor does it prove atheists are correct.

I think atheists often think from a purely scientific perspective but until science has ALL the answers i think it's fair to consider applying philosophy. And I'm not dumping on science. I'm actually really into astrophysics. Really, I'd say my interest in astrophysics has been the catalyst for my views on this topic. I'm sure this sounds like pretentious hippie talk to some people but it's just stuff I've thought about in my free time.

I think you missed the point. If something isn't measurable, it doesn't matter if it is there or not. If I told you there was goblin in your house, but you can't see it, hear it, feel it, touch it, smell it, taste it, or measure it in anyway whatsoever, and its presence can't be felt or known, and it has no capacity to interact with or effect anything around it, then it doesn't matter if the goblin is there, because the end result is the same as the goblin not being there.

OhhhJa posted...

This. Some of the most awful conversations I've had about religion are with atheists. I'm not religious at all but I find them to typically be just as close-minded as the worst fundamentalists.
At least with religious folk, I've felt more like I'm discussing things in good faith, no pun intended

It's so weird to me that atheists won't even acknowledge that there could be something beyond our perception of reality on this plane of existence

Something that isn't measurable has no impact on anything, and is therefore has no relevance. It only has relevance if it did have impact on something, as that in itself would be measurable. If the thing in question isn't perceptible because it is outside of this plane of existence, then it is still irrelevant, as it would only be relevant if it contacted this plane of existence.

What I'm saying is, something that has no bearing on us is meaningless to us, and it only has meaning when it has measurable bearing on us.

Yellow posted...

I'm not preaching the consistency of the bible here. To me you're just picking apart why lightsabers wouldn't work.

But there is a more or less "official" answer, which is the one I gave you.

I'm not worried about the "official" answer, I'm simply stating what actually makes sense (as far as a nonsensical religion is concerned), and what makes sense is that "sin" as a concept is contingent on God's displeasure, and God's displeasure is defined by God, meaning he is therefore the source of sin.

Yellow posted...

God gave humans free will but Satan introduced sin to them. You can think of it like him inventing sin. God said that humans' love was only really valid if they were able to choose.

Yeah it makes God kind of a self righteous dick, or something so intelligent he's closer to a finely tuned perfection machine than a human, or limited by his own lack of free will. It makes Satan a more interesting anti-hero, but Satan only has powers given to him by God, he's completely under control by God.

How hell came to be a place of pure suffering is not really well established aside from the fact that it naturally became that way from the absence of God, though several times it's implied that God set it up that way.

There is no God or Satan, but if there were, and the stories of the Bible were accurate, then no, Satan didn't introduce sin to mankind; God did, because God is the one whose expectations define sin.

Satan didn't invent sin by telling Eve to eat from the tree, and Eve didn't invent sin from eating from the tree; God invented sin by putting the tree in the garden knowing that Adam and Eve would eat from it, telling them not to, then holding it against them when they did. Nothing counts as a sin without God to hold it against someone.

I don't understand why more places don't actually enforce their rules. If I get bit by someone else's dog, I'm suing them, and I'm suing whatever venue allowed this person to bring their pet into the store against the store's policy. You'd think more stores would be cognizant of not setting themselves up for a lawsuit, but apparently not.

I shower in the morning so I'm clean for the day, then shower at the end of the day in order to wash the day's funk off of me.

Burger King's meat tastes better, but I feel like 85% of the time I go there, the lettuce is wilted and the tomato is mush. I'd probably rate it higher than McDonald's if the vegetables weren't consistently slime-like.

Humble_Novice posted...

Wow, are you so triggered by 261 that you would celebrate it's closure as if it was Christmas? That's just sad of you.

Didn't huge swaths of 261 users do the same thing when the MAGA board (rightly) closed? These are discussion boards, but there isn't actually a way to have political discussions here without it devolving into a toxic shit show, so I can't blame the moderators for not wanting to deal with any political boards anymore.

pedro45 posted...

@GEKGanon
What secrets are leftists keeping from kids? I haven't heard that one before

Leftists aren't keeping secrets from kids. The right says "leftists" are advocating for schools to keep secrets from parents, and to actively lie to parents about their children. Even if it is being done with good intention, it doesn't negate the fact that the people on the right say the left is doing it, and it is in fact being done.

mario2000 posted...

you're really mad you got slapped for hate speech huh

I didn't get slapped for hate speech. But the board is dead now, so everyone wins.

papercup posted...

And yet exactly one side is actually doing those things, aren't they? Weird right?

Which side is "actually" doing those things? The right tells me it is the left. The left tells me it is the right.

The left says the right is, among other things, banning books, and yeah, the right does actually seem to be doing that. Why? They'll tell you it is to protect kids.

Meanwhile, the right says the left is, among other things, pushing for schools to keep secrets from parents about their children, and yeah, the left does actually seem to be doing that. Why? They'll tell you it is to protect kids.

Now both sides will look at that statement and say "No, but we're REALLY protecting kids."

papercup posted...

People who see all the bullshit happening in this country every day and don't want to do anything about it are pretty weird. Seriously, you see all this deranged behavior coming from exactly one side, and it doesn't cross your mind that something is insanely fucked up and wrong here?

If I talk to someone from each side, they'll tell me its the other side. And its funny, because both sides will tell me the other side is trying to do the same thing (they are trying to ban things, cancel people, control people, etc.).

I lean left. I used to lean a lot further left, but I feel like the new "further leaning left" is leaning a lot further left than I think is reasonable. Neither "side" is willing to compromise anymore, so much so that people flat out say there is no compromising with the other side. So either nothing is going to get done, or the only things that will get done are the things that each side can cram through while they have power, and before the opposite side retracts as much as they can upon taking power back.

261 deserved to die. It was a Politics discussion board, but you couldn't actually discuss politics. One "side" gets to discuss their "side", while trying to report and moderate any dissenting viewpoint into oblivion. And when GameFAQs has such a low bar for "trolling" (provoking other users to respond negatively), then literally any thread on 261 was potentially trolling, because an invitation to discussing politics is an invitation to dissent, and dissent is seen as a negative.