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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 5:35:09 PM
#352
Hi JC. I think you're scum. I think I've expressed multiple times my distrust of your claim, the way you played it, and how I feel the role probably is designed to work expressly as an anti-town mechanic. I don't think you're independent like Corrik does. But frankly, I think you trying to discredit his vote on you based on thinking you are anti-town is silly. It doesn't matter if he thinks you're scum or indy. We have zero anti-town roles lynched. We gotta start somewhere.

My thoughts on Red are that I believe he is Miller. I think I probably interacted with and around him the most D1. I was upset at him early for not engaging with me. But when I probed him more, he went on the defense and fired shots back at me. He also strongly hinted very early when no one else had that he was a Killer, which he had absolutely no reason to give that info to town if he were scum. I dunno, maybe it's me putting too much faith in a Miller claim (ironic because I'm usually the one fighting tooth and nail to not believe Millers) but I just feel like the way Red's info came down across the game is probably truthful. I do wish he were more actively caught up and playing instead of just coming in and making random posts, as I can't really tell if he's making smart Red posts, or just skimming, like when he missed Ashethan's backpedal and didn't understand it until someone clarified for him. But there were some things like when he pointed out an inconsistency in the order of events of what you were claiming that I keyed in on as well, and made me think Red was analyzing your claim from a similar space as me. At the very least, I would comfortably bet that Red is not on a scum team with you. So if Red is scum, I would think you are town or Indy. (or the more obvious inverse, that if you are scum, Red is town.)

Corrik I can never read well. He has done his typical D2 PoE and I don't see anything grossly out of place. I disagree with him on a couple things like Brohan, but I also completely understand his point of view. I don't think Corrik has pushed anything weird, and I'm okay with him wanting to lynch you. The way you've tried to discredit Corrik based on him thinking you might be Indy has honestly only strengthened my thought that Corrik might be onto something. >_>

The current scum team I am thinking would be something like Ashethan/JC/Brohan/Chang. Is there a fifth? I always struggle with this. 4/17 with no extra kills (so far) seems too weak. 5/17 sounds too much?

For the record, JC started today with a scum list of

Chaeix posted...
i feel more strongly about individuals' towniness than scumminess this game and this is my 5-person poe (5/17 isn't too much?). there is a lot of inactivity in there which i don't like, and probably just the right amount of OMGUS? i dunno, i feel kind of like i'm just saying words

1. Ashethan
3. Corrik7 / Corrik
7. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
10. red13n / Leafeon13n ONE OF 12. UltimateBrohan / Brohan
13. wallmasterz / Wallz

But I don't really think you've put any pressure toward Ashethan at all, only really listing him as a "I guess I'm okay with this" option. I could definitely buy a world where you're scum, list your buddy Ashethan because he could get lynched today, then only have Brohan in your maybes? It makes sense to me. I'm probably wrong somewhere in here, just because I strongly doubt I have the whole scum team down already, but nothing I see in this topic is dissuading me from thinking Ashe and JC are the best two options.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 4:16:37 PM
#320
I'll be missing deadline again lol. Is this what it feels like to be European?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 4:15:09 PM
#319
Day ends tonight, right?

##Unvote: Ashe
##Vote: JC

Ashe, BCT, SBell, and Red are those with no votes down.

SBell vote JC with Corrik and me and lets see what happens as we get closer to deadline.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 1:44:03 PM
#278
yeah everyone claimed your turn sbell :)

JOKE

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 11:30:35 AM
#263
Chaeix posted...
oh I did lie about one other thing yesterday oops

i said the default if someone picked up the box was to kill if I didnt make a choice but it was to spare. I just didnt want you guys having reason to just vote me out, have someone spared, and then youd move on like nothing happened >_>

very greedy and definitely not much town equity but yeah

This just reads like more, "Guys my role was REALLY designed as a scum role, but I needed to lie to manipulate town into playing along and not lynch me."

God I hope you're scum JC. You should have just not revealed yourself, or not lied about anything.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 11:24:53 AM
#258
Guys what if Sultan is getting information about the elusive Pinehead, and not Pinhead, and this is all just a distraction? :thinking:

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 11:24:06 AM
#257
Chaeix posted...
this seems like a weird post to get that take from

I'm not gonna lie, I also had a negative reaction to you saying, "EVEN IF I WERE INDY YOU SHOULDN'T LYNCH ME" and seeing as how Corrik thinks you're 3rd party, I understand where he's coming from.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 11:16:37 AM
#249
htaeD posted...
Oh with that wording, cheating does make the box seem to be lethal either way.

This is the part that gets me. It feels like Sultan's thing is straight up telling us it's a scum ability. But if that's true, then that actually is either SUPER unfair to JC, or JC MAJORLY f'd up by trying to claim the ability ahead of time. I really think the role was designed to be done completely in the dark, and he was not intended to claim it in public at all.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 11:09:05 AM
#240
Chaeix posted...
Also Sultan what makes your role different from Bens scans?
You may be mixing up the trait names a little? Sultan is claimed Intuitive, just like you.

Ashethan is the one that claimed Inquisitive, just like Ben.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 11:00:35 AM
#236
I'm sure it's happened before, but not in recent history. But with Ben's flip telling us about the Kill Your Friends team, I would really doubt multiple 3rd parties without some kind of hard evidence.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 10:57:40 AM
#234
God, a player having a warning about another player's ability sounds like such a meta trap waiting to happen. If JC is town and Sultan got a host confirmed warning about an ominous town ability, that is such an unfair trap entirely.

But as it stands, town getting a warning about a scum ability, where the scum ability does NOT have to reveal itself to town, unless they choose to spare? I dunno, this is funky as a week old used wet sock.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 10:53:00 AM
#231
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Oh I missed that so I'm going to claim a trait here...

Intuitive- so I was forwarded a bit about Pinhead. So basically he is lying again atleast based off my text. It says Pinnhead cheats and will take control of a full day. I don't think it was optional as he is stating.

I wanted to say something yesterday but it told me to not interfere with this possess (assuming now that opening the box kills you)
Can you be a little more clear? I realize you have to paraphrase and can't direct quote, but what part of your trait implies that it wasn't a choice?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 10:34:46 AM
#224
Honestly while I could probably make an argument that using it early actually has more scum equity than delaying it, because scum would want to potentially roleblock all town while they have less idea of where the scanners are, I won't actually hold that one against you.

It's kind of like how we know day vigs should not shoot D1 and save their shots for later, but many many many town players have taken the YOLO shot D1 just for fun. I do believe a town JC with this role could just throw it out as soon as possible just to make sure he gets a chance to use it, even if it's not strategically the best available option. >_>

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 10:29:07 AM
#223
But also, I think there was probably a way to play that role out differently. If you didn't immediately use it N1, you could have saved it for a later day. Roleblocking all scum when we're near MYLO to try and give us more time to pull off lynches. Pressure scum to take the box to get rid of the roleblock so you have a chance of actually hitting scum. There were options to take with what you've claimed that weren't just "throw yourself to the wolves."

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 10:19:51 AM
#220
lol. Not being so antagonistic toward you, if what you're saying is true, I'm sorry for your poor luck JC. Totally understandable if that really is the case. To be fair though, I think we all did believe you for Town Doomed, right? I might be remembering incorrectly, but I thought you died to the Town Doomed effect in that game, no? It was just the fact that it was an unfun role to get that put an arbitrary timer on you with no real upside.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 10:14:46 AM
#218
Chaeix posted...
plus if I come in and say oh yeah the only thing that happens if I spare someone is they get my role/flavor I dont even get a benefit then thats even less believable. I get theres not much town equity in lying but when you have a truth that people clearly have trouble believing it makes sense to try to make it more conceptually palatable.


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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 9:40:22 AM
#214
changmas posted...
well the value is that Im pretty sure those two concrete lynch options are town and the ones Im proposing arent

people have got to get past the idea that lying and even lying poorly are indicators of being scum (see: sultan last game)

That's the whole point of analyzing the intent behind the lie.

Sultan last game was busy with other things and thought it would be funny to mess around by only posting votes. That's not scum intent, just a little anti-town.

For Ashethan this game, it's not the fact that he lied to us, and the bluff that he maybe was trying to stay alive after claiming power is probably a lie that can make sense from a town perspective. But the context it was in, that he was caught in a situation where we think the only other odd night killer we know of is our Miller, he back pedaled to make himself look like town again. This "catch" and then having to backpedal out of a bad claim is DEFINITELY something that could and has happened to many scum in the past. It's not 100%, but it's still pretty damn likely.

For JC, what was his intent for lying? To get town to trust him and not immediately lynch him? To get a power up on the sly? He told us sparing would get him a BP, but the reality was that killing got him untargettable, and he killed immediately when he got the chance! Where is the town intent in that lie? What town perspective lies to town about which action gets him a power up? It's pure selfish survival because he thought he would get lynched if he said he had to kill someone to get a power. Rightfully so, because it sounds not just anti-town, but actively like a scum power.

So yes you're right, "lynch all liars" like Sultan just said has been proven to not always be true, but that doesn't mean we let lying go completely and just give people a free pass, either! That's ridiculous! We have to analyze the context and intent behind the lies to see if it came from town or scum.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 8:53:14 AM
#201
Chang, I just don't think I see the value of going for a lynch off of a feeling (your reads of Wallz or Death) instead of a more concrete lynch on claimed players that have lied to us (Ashethan and JC).

Ashethan at the very least claimed to lie as a bluff to try and buy himself an extra night, because he thought scum might target him having claimed power.

JC admittedly lied because he thought town would trust him more if he dangled a carrot in front of us.

Chaeix posted...
the town equity was hoping that Id get some reward for killing him. I became untargetable last night, but I knew that in advance. The BP lie was because I WAS FULLY READY TO SPARE SOMEONE IF PEOPLE AGREED, AS I SAID EXPLICITLY, and give scum a reason to be worried about trying to shoot me in that case.

obviously I lied about untargetable so I could draw scum actions but the day did not pan out in a way that I think I actually drew any scum actions so its a wash


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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/06/23 8:07:47 AM
#196
Chaeix posted...
hi all - before i get started i would once again like to ask you all what the scum equity in this play is. i was not forced to claim,

and yet you did. that's the scum equity. the drawback of your ability was getting revealed by someone if you spared them. you got out in front of that by claiming, and hoped to town confirm yourself.

why you chose to kill fd instead of sparing him and getting that confirmation, i have no idea. player skill issue or something. but these things are the type of thing i can't make clear decisions on because i don't know your true role description, and you've already admitted to lying about it to us once.

the way jc comes in trying to claim there was no scum equity at all in his play, using stupid argument like, "why would i include i can win someone the game that makes no sense :)", implying he might have gotten more than just untargettability so scum still has to worry about him. blech, it's all so gross.

i'd still rather lynch ashethan, but i support corrik in his condemnation of jc.

i don't think i necesarilly see what you do when it comes to third party though, corrik. everything i see looks like it could just be normal scum team when it comes to jc. i don't really know though.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 3:29:16 PM
#121
Maybe I didn't understand BCT, but I was not notified you visited me, if you're saying I was supposed to have been.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 2:15:58 PM
#110
I could have MAYBE bought two Inquisitives, one active on odd nights, one active on even nights. But now you want me to believe two on odd nights active at the same time?

While Ben's role had very clear drawbacks for getting more detailed information? And Ash's has no downside at all?

Naaaaaah, like Death said, this is just backpedaling the previous mistake.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 2:07:02 PM
#106
To answer you more cleanly now, BCT. My original post saying, "why wasn't it JC?" was just meant as a cheeky prediction of Ashethan claiming to not scan JC with useful information that would have helped us figure out if JC was telling the truth or not, seeing as how scanning JC took me about 10 seconds to think of as a logical answer if I had Ben's Inquisitive role.

I forgot at that time that JC claimed to have gained untargettable as a trait, as evidenced by me dumbly saying

EDumey posted...
If Ben were still alive, he would be able to scan JC and test his trait to verify this, but now that Ben is dead, that's no longer an option.

before then. Whoops. I did realize my mistake by the time you asked me a clarifying question though, and just gave a smiley face response being cheeky and trying to say let Ashethan respond first.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:57:40 PM
#105
Ashethan posted...
Alright, fine.

I lied when I said I was a killer night 1. I was Mikaela night 1, and I'm Mikaela again now. Inquisitive lets me scan a player to see if they're a killer or a survivor. I decided to swap the order of my roles to see if anyone would claim being a killer or not on day 1. I guess it was kind of a dumb idea, but I thought 'hey, why not?' I also hoped swapping the nights I had power would keep me around long enough to come in with results on day 4.

Oh, and I scanned FD night 1. He came back survivor. So I'm pretty sure that means he was town. As for why I scanned him, it was because of his role in the Ulti lynch.

I don't believe this for one second. Kill it with fire.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:52:40 PM
#103
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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:52:32 PM
#102
The point seems to be to tell us that Ben did stakeout 2, and implies he was killed for it? But then Ben's statement at the start of D2 and his certainty of scum knowing about him doesn't make sense, otherwise he would have told us much more clearly about who he scanned, right? I'm thinking this is misdirection.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:50:52 PM
#100
I'm looking up the Dead by Daylight wiki, but Enchantress only seems to come up for a nurse skin?

Is this FD speaking from the dead? Or scum messing with us.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:28:36 PM
#97
For the record I do agree that BCT is town with that kind of attempt to catch something.

I already thought Lea/BCT was town aligned before, but that just kind of cements it for me that all of Lea, Ulti, and Ben on the Ashethan lynch D1 was pure town. Just Corrik as the random card there, but his vote was there from the start of the day.

Ashethan posted...
Your suspicions are fair, Dumey. I'll go into more detail if I have to, but I'd rather hold off a little more.

I don't want you to wait for responses from the scum board. This is a bad reply.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:07:04 PM
#90
well i didn't refresh obviously, lol.

BCT, I did not claim any info on Ashethan. You're acting too hastily. Why not let Ashethan respond for himself and see if he slips up?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 1:02:59 PM
#89
...Though I don't know if Ashethan is even around to respond, so let's not let the day stall out on that.

BCT, humor me for a moment and answer something about your opinion on JC. I don't think you said anything about him today except frustration over not being to vote.

Assume JC is town, and believes FD is poisoned and going to die anyway. Do you think him choosing to kill FD, obscure his flip from town, and gain an Untargettable trait has town equity?

Assume JC is scum, and knows whether FD is poisoned or not. Do you think him choosing to kill FD makes sense if FD was going to die anyway, for the sake of powering up?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:48:15 PM
#87
BlueCrystalTear posted...
May I ask how you know he didn't visit JC? I'm not reading anything of the sort from his one post today.

Guess we'll have to wait for Ashethan to confirm. :)

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:46:22 PM
#86
Yeah, it's vague enough that I wouldn't feel confident saying one way or the other. I feel like that could just mean "Ulti and Sultan have the same vanilla trait, but the flavor I wrote for each character is a bit different."

But this is just my intuition speaking, but for Ben to have an Inquisitive role that detailed and unique of a scanner, for Isquen to just throw in another Inquisitive role and have it do something different, with the same name? That sounds really wrong. I won't condemn Ashethan off of this flavor meta, but I am counting it as "one more weird thing about the claim."

Ashethan did exclude what his Inquisitive did when he initially claimed, which I was fine with at the time, but now it's time for answers.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:38:34 PM
#82
htaeD posted...
Uhm at the very least I believe we know that traits can share the same name but not the same power?

Do we *know* this or do we *think* this? As far as I remember, the only evidence we have of this is Sultan saying his Feline Grace trait actually does something, and is not a vanilla trait like Ulti's was.

Sultan, can you answer me, does your Feline Grace *explicitly* say that it has a purpose, or are you assuming it does based on the flavor?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:35:33 PM
#80
Ashethan, who did you visit last night, and why wasn't it JC?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:31:17 PM
#78
I guess here's an open question to everyone. Is anyone else other than Ashe and our claimed miller Red a killer on odd days?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:28:16 PM
#77
I'm okay with pressuring Brohan, but my gut is telling me to just lynch Ashethan because of the claim discrepancy. Also, one more thing to note with Ashethan's claim, his final trait (the "role" trait) for his even night claim was Inquisitive, the exact same as Ben.

Either this is damning because he's claiming the same ROLE as Ben, or it's possible that we had an odd night Inquisitive and an even night Inquisitive? I don't know the answer to that, but it's just one more detail on the claim that makes me wary.

##Vote: Ashethan

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:24:20 PM
#76
htaeD posted...
Also I do agree that FD would probably not offer himself to the box as scum...
Unless FD somehow miraclously comes back of course.

I think he possibly could have if he assumed JC was just going to spare him, because of the "poison." But once again, we have to assume FD was town for MYLO/LYLO scum counting purposes.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/05/23 12:23:06 PM
#75
Good morning friends. To respond to Ash since he's right above me.

I still have Brohan on my scum list, but with the JC mess yesterday and probably 0 dead scum, I feel like we need to lynch someone more concretely scum. Where my argument on Brohan is just generally that his reads are bad. Which is not the strongest case.

Crescent/Chang is still on my radar because of D1, but I didn't express a want to lynch Chang earlier. I actually was saying to follow Chang because it sounded like he claimed info on IGCD! But then he recanted that so that's a bust.

For you, Ashethan, the only thing pulling people off of you is your claim at the moment, but there's still the oddity of you claiming odd day killer. The more I think about this, I feel like you're scum that accidentally outted themselves claiming in the wrong order. Some people may dismiss this as flavor meta, but we know the flavor split (from Ben's flip) is Solo Queue and Kill Your Friends. It makes sense for scum team to be killers while town is survivors, and vice versa. The only other person claimed to be a killer on odd days, is our Miller. Which again makes sense with the proposed flavor split.

Using this argument for JC as well, his story is that he was a survivor D1, then got to choose to place his killer ability for the start of D2? I'm not sure I believe this, and I think it's very likely that JC was a killer D1, placed his box, then swapped to survivor during the night. If Ben were still alive, he would be able to scan JC and test his trait to verify this, but now that Ben is dead, that's no longer an option. The main argument in JC's favor is why would scum choose to kill FD if FD were supposedly poisoned. But maybe it's not a good idea to rely on that when FD didn't really give us all the details on that. He only said it implied he was living on borrowed time. Probably shouldn't "Clear" JC on that detail when we don't have that info 100% locked in.

Ashethan posted...
Is Ben the type of player to leave crumbs for us to follow?

Also the answer to this question is 200% yes, but I haven't looked back at his posts yet to see if he did breadcrumb his scan or not.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners
EDumey
11/04/23 11:08:33 PM
#23
The more I think about JC's role, the more I think it's scum. He gets a reward for killing (lies about this to town), the punishment for sparing is telling the spared player his identity, which sounds like a specific drawback for scum. He tried to get out ahead of it by claiming before the chain hunt started. IIRC there was no mention of the chain hunt ending the day early when it resolved.

JC did you know that killing FD there would end the day? I asked you a question about what would happen if we lynched you after someone picked up the box, and you conveniently chose to not answer that question.

Hiding the flip as well seems like a scummy role interaction as well. I imagine how the role is designed is that everything was anonymous, and JC could have chosen to not out himself at all, but wanted to try and use it as a confirmation tool. But I obviously can't be too sure on this.

I did think FD was scum yesterday, but for MYLO/LYLO counting purposes, we have to assume he was town and offered himself up because of the supposed poison, so I think it will just be safe to assume FD was town, and he was going to die anyway, so we can at least take that as a silver lining that we maybe "wasted" scum's extra kill. If that is true about the poison though, then that does point to JC being town? Because he wouldn't take the bad press of killing FD there if he knew for sure FD was already going to die? Unless he really wanted that Untargettable I guess.

I dunno, I feel like I'm only gonna talk myself in circles here. Ben was another confirmed town on the Ashethan lynch D1. Chang is coming in hot saying IGCD is scum. Should probably go for one of those two today.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:53:09 PM
#288
Does the game stop while you make your action? Or do we get time to discuss once someone has grabbed it for themselves? What happens if we vote to lynch someone who has grabbed the box, before you choose to act on it?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:46:22 PM
#287
Eh. I think it's too risky to ever let the box go through the night then? We don't know if scum has a way around it, or even if it stops night kills at all. It's probably not worth roleblocking all of our potential investigative roles this early in the game just for a chance of stopping a night kill.

But then we have to have someone willingly interact with the box that we want to.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:40:11 PM
#285
No. Sorry if I'm being pedantic. I understand you are saying that your DM says everyone is roleblocked equally. I'm asking if there is any specific mention of night kills at all.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:37:53 PM
#282
Chaeix posted...
I'm not technically roleblocked but I don't actually have anything that I can do. So I was thinking that wording might have applied because of my case but I can't be sure it doesn't extend to others.

I don't like that you didn't specifically answer whether or not the role says anything about night kills.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:37:04 PM
#280
Also Ulti would have absolutely pounced at the chance to off himself with the box, AND win the game, lmao.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:36:19 PM
#278
So it explicitly says that the roleblock works on scum kills? Or leads you to believe that with some specific wording?

Isquen posted...
A Chain Hunt has begun! The chains will continually harass ALL players until someone locates The Box. What does this mean?
- Most active abilities are automatically blocked.
- Most passive abilities are deactivated.
- Votes may not be removed or moved once cast.

This line from Isquen had me worried that scum would still be able to shoot at us while we're all roleblocked.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:29:31 PM
#274
Interesting. I have no idea what to make of that except, "We probably shouldn't choose to lynch anyone based on trait/flavor meta." Which probably shouldn't have needed to be said anyway, but just a reminder for myself. :P

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:14:05 PM
#272
Well apart from getting busy at the end of the work day, I did come back to basically no new conversation it felt like. We need people to come in and talk. Death, I feel like you could probably be a bit more vocal about where you're currently standing and give us something to engage with.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 7:12:52 PM
#271
I am wary of the Ninja Predator and the fact that Ashethan claimed an odd day killer. But if those facts make him scum then that means he chose.... to claim his actual flavor and role? That doesn't quite track to me. But maybe this is the exact type of WIFOM he was hoping for. No way scum claims something so obviously sketchy, so it must be town, etc.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 2:46:24 PM
#235
Forceful_Dragon posted...
How is it that you are responsible for a pinhead box if your only actions available would have been as Jeff? You didn't become pinhead until day 2 started.

We would expect people with Day actions to have access to their new abilities immediately, right? So if the box is considered a day action, then maybe he didn't "choose" to set it down last night?

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 2:43:05 PM
#231
That's part of what got me to back off of him. Because I thought there wasn't much of a point of scum coming forward with that type of hinting, and fit the miller claim well, being a solo queue killer among a bunch of survivors.

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TopicDead by Daylight Mafia Topic 5: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
EDumey
11/03/23 2:41:25 PM
#230
Forceful_Dragon posted...
My thoughts exactly. Does anyone else want to claim to have been a killer first? I'll confirm that I was not.
Red strongly hinted that he was a killer D1. But can wait for him to come in and clarify that if he wants to.

Specifically the post where he mentioned that Killers are technically solo queue too.

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