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Mr_hulk88 posted...

Well except you literally do have the ability to report a post which is why I said it.

you can report any post, but you cant see the post of the person who blocked you so you cannot report THAT post

Gremlynn posted...

why do i care what they care about? their blocked. their ability to care is no longer relevant to me.

im saying it doesnt deter them, and as @Baha05 pointed out it can pose other issues such as bullies making it impossible for you to report them. Overall it causes more harm than good.

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Good news is you don't need to "think" anything. People in support of the feature are actually speaking from experience.

people who call this feature terrible can also speak from experience.

kirbymuncher posted...

but then they can't post?

the point of the block feature isn't getting rid of users entirely, that's what moderations are for. The point is keeping troublesome people out of your topics

i just dont think troublesome users care enough.

kirbymuncher posted...

I know you're making a big point of how people can log out and still read your posts

also, the reason why this is brought up a lot by me in particular is in because other topics people always tell me and other people if you are logging out to view someones posts then you are not using the blocking feature the way it is; you are NOT SUPPOSED to log out and view these posts.

this is such an idiotic statement to me that Im not sure why people are bringing it up. if im not supposed to log out and see someones posts, the site SHOULDNT ALLOW you to log out like this in the first place.

I brought up an analogy of you arresting people and sending them to jail, then leaving the key accessible for them to unlock themselves out of jail because I felt like this is what these people are saying they would do, instead of keeping the key to themselves.

Mr_hulk88 posted...

1. NO THEY CANT. YOU BLOCKING SOMEONE MEANS THEY CANT TROLL YOU.

2.YOU CAN REPORT THEM.

Are you stupid? 3rd time asking.

they know you blocked them so they can block you in return. By just ignoring, its not easy to find out you put them on ignore

kirbymuncher posted...

I know you're making a big point of how people can log out and still read your posts but like... even after a theoretical troll does this and reads your posts, how are they supposed to do anything? If they log back in to start trolling they can't post in the topic, and they obviously can't post while logged out either.

honestly the block feature needing to exist is imo a significant failure on the part of the moderation staff, but it is pretty effective at what it's made for

it prevents trolls from trolling in your topic which is good, but it allows them to troll you in other ways and you cant report them especially if they block you.

you are also just leaving other people to deal with the trolls.

it overall makes people not want to create an account as they can just read boards as a guest, which means they have to deal with the trolls that you arent reporting.

an ignore feature by itself is an incentive to make an account so you can have an ignore list, blocking makes you prefer guest more because this way you are immune to blocking.

Gremlynn posted...

or he can just block them. you sound like somebody desperate to know what info the people who blocked you might have let slip

ir blocking is just ineffective at making trolls stop trolling.

Gremlynn posted...

What trouble?

makes people less like to make an account as they can just read the majority of the site as guests more, encourages more throwaway accounts that never post, this system is open to people blocking you and others to avoid tos violations, people are more likely to abandon accounts that are old, promotes trolls blocking people who expose them, and is overall a tool weaponized by trolls to degrade the experience of other users or to gatekeep topics via a personal echo chamber. It is a hot mess and the cons outweigh the benefits as the staff have stated years ago

Tmaster148 posted...

I've had some unhinged users stalk me from a game board to harass me in unrelated topics. So the block feature is good at keeping people from just invading your topics with unrelated shit.

cant you just report and ignore them?

Sharashaska posted...

Why does the block feature fucking bother you that much?

because it doesnt make sense for a gaming forum and the admins argued against it in the past so idk why they suddenly decided to do a 180

Mr_hulk88 posted...

People can report literally any post they want, you loser. Shut the fuck up already.

not if theyre logged as a guest

they could also choose to block everyone in addition to you and prevent dozens of people from reporting a post.

VampireCoyote posted...

If youre someone that complains about the block feature youre likely one of the reasons that it exists

or if youre someone who complains about there being no block feature on a PUBLIC site where you CANNOT BLOCK guest users from browsing your posts in the sections youre posting (this means current events isnt one) then maybe you want the feature so you can write tos violations about people and block them from reporting your posts

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why do you care so much about weirdos reading your topic?

if you dont want them reading your topic, maybe you shouldnt be posting in a PUBLIC FORUM

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must be because blocking on a public website such as gamefaqs is a dumb idea, it serves more problems than it solves, and all the times people suggested blocking as a site feature in the past, the admins shut it down because it would cause more problems than it solves.

orher sites such as the super mario boards and smashboards dont have a block feature that prevents people from seeing your posts because these sites are viewable by guests anyways, and any attempts to bring this up would probably be shutdown for the same reasons as to why the admins shutdown it in the past.

Mr_hulk88 posted...

? Ignored users can post in your topics.

that was a suggested change in case I didnt make it clear enough

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Because it's not about reading, it's about them not responding to what you say.

This is like the tenth time you have asked this same question. Are you alright in the head?

BalloonBattle05 posted...

why didnt the ignore feature go far enough?

allowing ignored users to read your topics (especially if you are going to abuse it yourself to post tos violations about them) but not post in them is ok with me, but no one here seems to want that

did you miss this part?

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must be because this topic was created entirely because I gave a response that someone who you block can still log out and read your posts on public boards especially if you post tos violations about them and people gave an oxymoron response of you shouldnt log out to view someones posts if they blocked you

which is why I came up with that putting someone in jail analogy. If logging out isnt supposed to be used to bypass someone blocking you from reading their posts, you shouldnt be able to read posts from anyone in the first place.

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why didnt the ignore feature go far enough?

allowing ignored users to read your topics (especially if you are going to abuse it yourself to post tos violations about them) but not post in them is ok with me, but no one here seems to want that

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because everyone makes it sound like they can easily find someones alt and block them when they dont know the alts username when that alt is never used to post

Mr_hulk88 posted...

And they would also get blocked aNyWaYSssss.

Which can be blocked in one second.

how do you block them when you dont know the username?

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how do you know they are looking at your posts or topic if you cant see anything they post yourself?

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is this a jab at why blocking causes more trouble than its worth or is it why should we have blocking?

either way, other users tell me that blocking causes more problems than its worth as there is little incentive to sign up for an account if you just want to read when browsing as guest, and people who want to read private boards such as current events likely have an alt they only use for reading anyways. If they get banned on their main, they already have an alt to use. Other internet forums such as the super mario boards and smashboards dont have this kind of blocking system either and their forums are mostly public so I want to know why gamefaqs should have one

Fluttershy posted...

that's another thing, the people who have you blocked have been unaware of you ever since, but you've been stewing about them and making posts about them, like this. they call that 'rent-free' living, i believe.

i'm just saying you might be a walking advertisement for the effectivity of the system at this point.

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The ignore feature does just that, prevent you from seeing their posts

it doesnt prevent them from seeing and commentating on your posts, but how do you know they are doing it and why do you care if you cant see them to begin with?

sull56ivan2010 posted...

Now you're taking it too far with this paranoia you've been having the last couple days. You're going to extreme lengths to be against the block feature.

the entire point of this topic being made was that people always argue that you shouldnt be logging out to see the persons posts while being ignorant of the fact that youre literally giving the key to seeing the persons posts anyways which is what the jail analogy is literally describing.

if you dont want people who you blocked to see your public posts, maybe guests without an account shouldnt be able to read them either (but I dont think gamefaqs wants that)

Tyranthraxus posted...

No they can't though. That's the thing. My house is an ironclad fortress that repels assholes and it's also patrolled by Superman and he also thinks they're an asshole.

Once I block you, you don't get to come back no matter what you do. You can look into the window all you want. Check out all the fun we're having that you'll never be a part of. I don't care.

people could just get in by breaking a window or something

they would deserve to be arrested but thats not the point.

Tyranthraxus posted...

When you block someone they don't have a "key" to make you unblock them.

A more accurate analogy is you kick someone out of your house for being an asshole. They can still look in through the window but you don't care because they're not in your house anymore and you don't have to talk to them.

they can easily break into your house especially since they know where you live

Fluttershy posted...

it doesnt do its job to begin with

no, it absolutely does. just because you're personally willing to put in effort to circumvent it doesn't mean anything. if it wasn't effective, you wouldn't be whining.

lets say you throw someone in jail and the jail cell has the key for them to get out, or they can get out by digging a hole using a shovel. Are you going to say that putting them in jail served a purpose, they just chose to circumvent being arrested or are you going to remove both of them because there is no point in putting them in jail otherwise?

Mr_hulk88 posted...

...What is wrong with you???

You've been answered this several times.

YOU CANNOT POST THERE. As in, if you enter thru a link and try to type, a message appears saying you are not allowed to post on this topic.

I havent tested this myself but I tried entering through a link on a friends account and it still had the post new message button

Fluttershy posted...

if you can just log out so there is no point in it preventing people from reading posts made from you.

there obviously is; look at the tantrum you're throwing over it.

the system works.

Let me put it this way that I dont care at all about having to log out and read posts but this is EXACTLY WHY it should be removed, because it doesnt do its job to begin with

Mr_hulk88 posted...

The ignore feature is what makes no sense.
I don't need to stop seeing someone's posts if they will still be able to respond to mine, misrepresent what I said, derail, troll, etc. Only now without me being able to intervene lol. That's idiotic honestly.

The point of blocking isn't to stop seeing posts, is to stop engagement from that person.

I'm not scared of people seeing what I post.

if you cant see someones posts then you cant engage with them anyways.

Fluttershy posted...

It makes a huge difference aNywAyS. So much so that here you are complaining about its existence.

yeah, you kinda can't say the system doesn't work when it's obviously pissing you off. you wouldn't be begging for it to go.

he's kinda got you here tc. close this topic and stop embarrassing yourself.

im saying that the system of it NOT LETTING YOU VIEW COMMENTS AND TOPICS DOESNT WORK IN PUBLIC BOARDS (of which CE isnt one) if you can just log out so there is no point in it preventing people from reading posts made from you. Even if they wanted to view boards in private mode, they could just make a new account.

everyone should just argue that it should be changed to allow viewing your topics but not posting in them and I would be ok with that.

Fluttershy posted...

they can make a post in other threads. You are not banning them from posting on gamefaqs

can they post in threads you make?

they can view them with a link but Im not sure if theyre actually prevented from posting.

Fluttershy posted...

im saying that its barely any effort enough that it makes no difference anyways.

nobody asked. and it's still more for them.

hey, can people you have blocked still post? i missed that part. can they? huh? huh?

they can make a post in other threads. You are not banning them from posting on gamefaqs

Fluttershy posted...

might be more effort

no 'might be'. it is.

they cannot post

i'm sorry, repeat that?

if you dont want people engaging you in a PUBLIC FORM, maybe you shouldnt be using the form in the first place

not everyone who demands attention and time on a public forum deserves it, and people don't deserve to be at the mercy of the most obnoxious actors.

simple as that. do you not understand?

im saying that its barely any effort enough that it makes no difference anyways.

ironically, if someone blocks you, makes a post that violates the TOS and you see it while logged out, it would take you more effort to make other people report it than it would be for someone to log out.

Fluttershy posted...

it barely takes any effort to log out and view boards as a guest, and anyone that dedicated could just use private mode solely for reading purposes.

that's still more effort than the person who blocked them has to exert. stop trying to avoid that, it's clumsy.

also: can they post?

Fluttershy posted...

it barely takes any effort to log out and view boards as a guest, and anyone that dedicated could just use private mode solely for reading purposes.

that's still more effort than the person who blocked them has to exert. stop trying to avoid that, it's clumsy.

also: can they post?

Fluttershy posted...

it barely takes any effort to log out and view boards as a guest, and anyone that dedicated could just use private mode solely for reading purposes.

that's still more effort than the person who blocked them has to exert. stop trying to avoid that, it's clumsy.

also: can they post?

Fluttershy posted...

it barely takes any effort to log out and view boards as a guest, and anyone that dedicated could just use private mode solely for reading purposes.

that's still more effort than the person who blocked them has to exert. stop trying to avoid that, it's clumsy.

also: can they post?

Fluttershy posted...

it barely takes any effort to log out and view boards as a guest, and anyone that dedicated could just use private mode solely for reading purposes.

that's still more effort than the person who blocked them has to exert. stop trying to avoid that, it's clumsy.

also: can they post?

might be more effort but its still barely a huge difference.

they cannot post but they probably dont care or can just use an alt.

if you dont want people engaging you in a PUBLIC FORM, maybe you shouldnt be using the form in the first place

Ryvell posted...

Why haven't you addressed the numerous people pointing out that you can't view CE while logged out?

I acknowledged the private boards thing multiple times, of which CE is one.

which should be an argument for it only applying to private boards.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They can't post either. Which is the real point of doing it.

Why does preventing people from posting in your topics matter to you so much? Do you complain that youtubes blocking feature doesnt allow you to prevent people from commenting on your videos?

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Blocking people from reading yours is too.

For the 1000th time..

THEY CANNOT READ CE BY LOGGING OUT.

..what is wrong with you? Shut the fuck up already.

I ACKNOWLEDGED PRIVATE BOARDS, OF WHICH CE IS ONE

read the outside of private boards section.

Why do you care so much if people read your posts after you block them?

GameFAQs should just have a only friends can see your posts (like facebook) if you CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE ENGAGING WITH YOU

Fluttershy posted...

there being ways around the system probably means the system is a bigger hinderance (or doesnt serve its purpose well) than it helps

nah, systems like this are always an arm race. see: any anticheat. what's with your mental gymnastics?

it's a bigger hindrance to the person trying to get around it. blocker has to hit a button. blockee has to do all the absurd shit you're suggesting. think about it next time!

it barely takes any effort to log out and view boards as a guest, and anyone that dedicated could just use private mode solely for reading purposes.

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Lol I feel this needs repositng

It's literally same mentality as the guy asking the question there and the 2 mods who responded are on point.
It's like he has no sense of comprehension that people have the right to block out someone they simply DON'T WANT ENGAGING THEM. Which seems like textbook harassing mindset, they feel someone cutting you out is very unfair and wrong.

i would be making these topics EVEN IF no one was blocking me, because it serves no actual purpose outside of people blocking you so you cant report them breaking the rules.

Fluttershy posted...

you could just stay logged out entirely or use a different computer where youre not logged in if you just want to view posts.

i could do a lot of things.

there being ways around the system doesn't mean the system is wrong to exist. people should be able to block posts they don't want to read and not every poster deserves the attention they're desperate for. it's easier to block someone than it is to get around it; it lets the blocker force the attention-desperate to jump through hoops. it works.

i can really only see someone making these complaints if they've kinda like, had their shitposting impeded by the block list. just saying.

blocking posts you dont want to read is perfectly fine, this is what the ignore function is for.

blocking someone from reading topics you make cannot be done because outside of private boards, they could just log out and view your posts.

there being ways around the system probably means the system is a bigger hinderance (or doesnt serve its purpose well) than it helps and opens up loopholes regarding bullying and harassment where someone can block you and then post tos violations that nobody reports either because they were blocked as well or they side with the violator.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Who has made multiple accounts to harass what other user?

I dont think anyone actually has, but Reddits blocking feature originally prevented you from seeing peoples posts but they could see yours (like the ignore feature here). I asked why it doesnt work the way facebook does once and the response was that they found it pointless because you could just log out and see the posts of whoever blocked you.

Reddit also told me that trolls who are blocked could just make a new account and continue to harass you while putting them on ignore list is way less obvious that you are blocking them so it doesnt really do a good job of combating trolls.

VeggetaX posted...

I'm just kidding it isn't.

This is all true however when you block someone you mean to no longer wanna see their post and vice versa and you want to cut out any and all communication with them. If blocked users wanna log into an alt or log off to see my posts, that's fine. As long as I don't get to see them posts.

And using alts to harass someone after you blocked their main is against the ToS.

blocking someone just makes it obvious that you blocked them, they barely have any hints if you just have them on ignore list. If someone is really that dedicated to harassing you they could just make multiple alts.

ignoring does a better job of dealing with trolls and harassment because its less obvious to them which is why I want to know why is blocking so important that people dont want others to make comments on their PUBLIC posts in a PUBLIC message board, as opposed as to just not seeing the posts of the person who you blocked.

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you could just stay logged out entirely or use a different computer where youre not logged in if you just want to view posts.

as for private boards such as CE, you could just make a lurker account and not read posts.

VeggetaX posted...

Logging out takes a lot of effort.

how does it?

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it barely takes any effort to just log out. I doubt there would be a difference between people who do so vs people who dont.

if I was in charge of implementing a blocking feature, because I felt like it would hardly be a convincing reason for me to add it.

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because outside of private boards, you cant prevent people from logging out to view your posts.

you CAN prevent them from posting by blocking, but the question is why does this particular feature matter so much if putting someone on ignore list and simply not seeing their posts to begin with is often enough for many people?

Its like wanting to block specific people from liking your youtube videos or subscribing to your channel. Why does this particular feature on a PUBLIC BOARD matter to you so much?

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you cannot post in someones topic if they block you, but any trolls would probably just use an alt if they really wanted to.

the question was to make a scenario where if blocking didnt exist and you used the ignore button to not see someones posts in your topics, how would you know they posted in the topic if you cant see their posts to begin with?

additionally, why do you care so much about preventing people from posting in your topics especially if they make dozens of alts to post in them?

are you the type to complain that you cannot block specific people from viewing and liking your youtube videos or subscribing to your channel? If yes, why does this function matter to you so much?

Smallville posted...

tc, haven't you made this exact same topic on like 5 different boards? why are you so mad at the blocking feature? i like it. Is it because a lot of people use it, on you, and you don't like that?

not a single person could block me and Id still want the feature removed because it clearly causes more harm than good especially for people who just want to read topics. It wouldnt change anything.

this topic on ce was to question why people use dont log out to view someones posts if they blocked you as a defence when this is LITERALLY giving them the key to unlock themselves out of jail

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on PUBLIC boards theres nothing stopping them from logging out and reading your topics as a guest.

the question was say you ignore someone and you cant see their posts. If they post in your topics afterwards, why do you care if you cant read them to begin with?

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how would you know we are participating if you cant read our posts?

Mr_hulk88 posted...

..you . Can't. Post. On. The. Topic. Of. Someone. Who. Blocked. You

the reason why I made this topic was to question everyone who says dont log out to view the posts of someone who blocked you and disregard the fact that this is the equivalent of putting someone in jail, letting them gain access to the key for them to get out of jail and telling them dont unlock yourself out of jail. If you DONT WANT people to unlock themselves out of jail, DONT PROVIDE THEM THE KEY TO DO SO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Lol that link is clearly talking about the IGNORE feature not blocking, the user who made that thread simply doesn't seem to know that "ignore" isn't blocking

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2-message-board-help/80412042 this link is about blocking

sull56ivan2010 posted...

You've made four topics in the last 48 hours on four different boards, TC. Block feature is here to stay. It works its purpose the way it intended to. That's why it was implemented.

it works its purpose of blocking users from commentating on your posts, but causes other issues and its purpose of not letting people see your PUBLIC posts is immediately thrown out the window when they can just view as a guest. It also causes issues of you blocking people to avoid them reporting your TOS violations.

you know why youtubes blocking doesnt prevent you from viewing someones videos? Its because you can just log out and view the video as a guest.

maybe blocking shouldve just allowed you to view the persons topics but your comments wouldnt be visible to anyone, logged in or not. This wouldve served more purpose to it with less controversy.

pikakaeru posted...

well youre wrong. also you cant post in topics where you are ignoring the TC

that guys topic implied it wasnt a feature anyways but it looks like they implemented it now.

@OverloadBurner everyone seems to argue that blocking is necessary for preventing trolls from derailing your topics. Have any input?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2-message-board-help/80412042

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Facepalm.

They cannot post on your topic. Blocking someone literally blocks someone out of from posting on your thread, that is precisely the difference with the ignore feature and why it's fantastic.

They can't. And they haven't. Trust me.

wording of this implies it doesnt, and this topic implies it doesnt either

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/7-site-suggestions/80393906

Blocking both ignores a user, and silently causes them to ignore you. In addition to you no longer seeing any of their posts, they will not see your posts while browsing any message board or topic (although they may still show up in the site-wide Popular Topics lists, and they will be able to see posts in which you are quoted), although any other content you post will still be available.

Mr_hulk88 posted...

Once again: The ignore feature doesn't prevent the person from engaging what you say.
I don't know why you assume all one wants is to not read someone's posts.

Your topic is fucking weird and dumb.

it doesnt prevent them from engaging, but you likely dont know that they are engaging in the topic in the first place because you cant see them to begin with. If other users engage with them you can just mark them for trolling.

dozens of people say that blocking someone means you cant see their posts (such as @comicfire) and they dont mention anything else so this is the only impression Im getting from them.

I dont think blocking a troll prevents them from seeing topics you create anyways, so your topics can STILL be derailed if they can log out and see your posts.

TheMikh posted...

because there's a number of mean-spirited or otherwise deranged personalities that stalk and harass other users while working within the ToU, and i have no problem with blocking these kinds of personalities when i notice such behavioral patterns targeted towards myself or others

sometimes not seeing a user is not enough - sometimes you don't need them seeing you either

why cant you report them for harassment?