Lurker > pokeytrader

There's no way you can convince me that a scammer who makes his living taking advantage of people is harmless. And there's no guarantee that these people would be exploited otherwise. Even if they gave their money to some other streamer, odds are they would be treated better, would be provided with entertaining content, and could potentially become part of a community that would have some social benefits.

I think an argument can also be made that repeatedly gaslighting people and all but forcing them to humiliate themselves in order to stay on DSP's good side is detrimental to their mental well-being.

Nintendo_Porn posted...

So, anyone here still doubting that dsp is dangerous? What he does is something that should never be learned or taught.

It annoys me when people think he's harmless and try to pass his act off with the old "if you don't like him, just don't watch him" platitude. He's a manipulative scammer, a scumbag who takes advantage of vulnerable people and constantly belittles and gaslights the fans who allow him to make a living. Are there worse people out there? Of course, but that doesn't change the fact that he is an objectively bad human being who deserves all the ridicule and scorn that comes his way.

Looks like he finished at $27 in tips for the night, which might lead one to believe that his viewers prefer gameplay to drama. If only someone had warned DSP about OIC earlier. Oh, wait, both detractors and loyal viewers have been pointing out how problematic OIC is for months.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Phil might be dumb as a bag of rocks, but he knows how to manipulate.

It's scary to think what he could do if he was smarter and more ambitious. He's able to earn over 100 grand a year scamming a bunch of lonely, vulnerable, and frankly not very intelligent people, all while putting in minimal effort and treating his viewers like garbage. If he was smart enough to tone down his toxicity a bit to draw in new viewers and actually offer some real incentive to support him, he could be making a lot more money.

His efforts to appear mature only make him look more childish. Just as an honest person has no need to constantly point out that they are honest, no adult (and especially not one pushing 40) needs to go around insisting that they are a mature adult.

What's really hilarious is that no one expects him to be a mature adult. This is a problem he invented. Plenty of successful streamers are not overly mature people, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Slayer_22 posted...

I wonder, does his wife just get pissed off when he looks at women in video games? Is his mom Kat jealous of video game characters or something?

I find it hard to believe that Kat is invested enough in their relationship that she cares about something so silly. I mean, she's fine with him lying and scamming and making a complete fool of himself on a daily basis, but she draws the line at interacting with video game women? I'm convinced that he does this entirely of his own volition, either as an overreaction to past accusations of sexism or because he mistakenly believes it's what Kat wants.

Slayer_22 posted...

I miss DSP being a degenerate.

I really do.

Classic DSP objectifying every woman on screen will always be more entertaining than Current DSP literally covering his face and moaning about having a wife when he sees a female character.

It's his stream, so if he wants to play the game in a boring way that his viewers have made it clear that they don't enjoy, then he's allowed to do that. The problem is, he expects that they should enjoy it. No matter what he does, his viewers are just supposed to show up, shower him with tips, and keep their mouths shut about any criticism.

When he has a long history of making everything about himself and blatantly lying about how much/hard he works, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, at least not from me.

"Here's a cute picture of my baby."

Clout-chasing DSP: "Look at me! I have to work so hard!"

His views on Patreon sum up his entire brand: Don't expect anything from him, just give him money. It would take minimal effort to think up some stupid little perks that could bring in a bit of extra cash, but he won't even do that.

He's complaining about the pizza he ordered on the same day that he tweeted that he literally couldn't afford to buy a game to play for his business.

If he doesn't want people to take delight in his losses, he's got two ways to change that:

1. Stop reacting so strongly when he loses.
2. Improve so that he's not constantly losing.

Or how about a third option--stop whining about the reasons people attend his stream and just be happy that idiots enable him to live a very comfortable life sitting on his ass playing video games.

If he had done a truly blind first attempt at the game, people would be more into it. No one wants to see another "Chat Plays <insert game title>," especially with a game like this.

Nintendo_Porn posted...

I think people prefer watching him play the david cage games now.

At least i think he's right about that one.

If nothing else, at least he seems to enjoy himself during those games, and that could make the viewing experience slightly more bearable. I think Detroit Become Human was the last game he played where he legitimately had a good time more often than not.

I know it's become a meme that every big new release is going to rejuvenate his channel, but I think he was really hoping that Elden Ring would drum up the kind of excitement other FromSoftware used to generate. Instead, while it's preformed better than anything else he's played lately, it still hasn't brought in huge money, and this has left him salty. Probably doesn't help that he's being handheld through the entire thing while also being overleveled. He's demanding to be paid $150 a stream to play the game in the least entertaining manner possible.

Actually, "I'll" should be capitalized.

I know one of his main flaws is his inability to ever learn from his mistakes, but it still baffles me that he's played through every Soulsborne game multiple times yet still doesn't know how to play them at all.

As to not hitting the members goal, it's the same old shit: there's no incentive whatsoever. A members choice poll that he will complained is rigged and will likely result in a ragequit/wagequit anyway? How fun!

Nazanir posted...

https://youtu.be/mJAlPEaSVMc

This is just wonderful.

It's funny on several levels. He's apparently self-aware enough to understand that he just keeps beating his head into the wall until he eventually wins, but he also completely misses that running away like a bitch is exactly how he handles any real opposition in Street Fighter (or in his life in general).

I'm sure there are other streamers who share his view that their job is hard, and some of them--especially ones who put in real effort, edit their content, and work to grow and improve--might even have a point. What makes DSP stand out is that his content is notably lazy, not just compared to other streamers, but even when compared to DSP himself from years back when he created the occasional edited video and was working to grow multiple YouTube channels. He's putting out the lowest effort content of his career, all while crying that he has to make $300 a day (or probably closer to $450 if we're counting superchats, etc.) just to get by.

Every online experience in any game ends up being a negative one for him. Most people start to realize that when they hate something almost every time they do it, then maybe it's time to stop doing that thing.

DeadBankerDream posted...

https://youtu.be/CsMi4DyzoYU?t=788

Phil getting mad at people for not attending his streams when he's playing games they don't like.

Of course it's the viewers' fault. Even if they don't like they game, they should try to enjoy the overall presentation of the stream... presented in the least entertaining way possible by a boring and miserable hermit whose only goal is to make money. Or they could interact with others in the chat... although they'll get yelled at if they talk about things other than the game or what DSP had for dinner.

Since most of his income comes from a small group of people, he should ask those people what they want to see, then play those games almost exclusively. He needs to move beyond this delusion that lots of people watch him and want to see a variety of games.

New game played all day, and both streams are "slow." 13-year legacy, yet he still has no idea what games his fans want to see.

I don't know why he plays anything online. It's a few fleeting moments of "Ha, get fucked, bitch!" when he wins versus an endless number of salty complaints and excuses when he loses. Though I suppose the same thing can be said about his offline play... or his life in general.

Another night stream where he doesn't even get to $50 in tips.

While I do think he exaggerates some of this to get views ("Oh my God, wait until you hear about what happened on my day off!!!1!"), he really is incredibly dumb. He expects everything to work in a way that benefits him, and he's completely baffled when that doesn't happen.

It's always a bit weird when he reveals information like that. I assume he meant to show how humid it is in his house or how busy he is (ie: he'll need to clean that mold). Either way, poor DSP. Instead, as with many of his stories, it makes him look stupid and lazy. Almost every story he tells about his life outside of the stream unintentionally portrays him as a guy who is barely capable of functioning as an adult.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Third hard part is prolly the mall in Fourside as the enemies can combo kill you but if you grind and buy Jeff lots of Big Bottle Rockets everything will be ez including the bosses.

To me, this part is a ridiculous difficulty spike. You can be breezing through the game, then get wiped easily by those damned coffee cups.

Five dollars for one stream is nothing? That's a great message to send to the non-whale viewers who might be thinking about tipping.

If I had to guess, I would say the majority of DSP's current viewers would prefer his old content over his modern content. The choice is sex jokes and racial humor vs. non-stop begging and paywalled hats. Neither is great, but one is objectively more entertaining than the other.

Imagine wasting $150 on DSP. That doesn't even cover the cost of what he spends eating out on a day off, and whether DSP gets that money or not, his streams stay exactly the same. If you gave that kind of money to another content creator, they'd probably give you access to early content or let you pick a game for them to play or a movie for them to review. DSP offers to put on a hat and vest. You'd literally be better off flushing the money down the toilet--telling someone you flushed $150 down the toilet would be less embarrassing than telling them you gave the money to DarksydePhil.

https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1492012781977018373?s=20&t=iORVeHsrk0V9nhiz8uedJA

Great stream, but you idiots didn't pay me $100 to put on a hat.

DSP's idea of a good suggestion: "Keep doing exactly what you've been doing all along. Your content is great, and you are the only honest and authentic person on the internet. Anyone who suggests you need to change is a jealous hater."

DeadBankerDream posted...

Did he perma ragequit Sifu or just for a stream?

Just for the stream, it looks like. Given how salty he was over the first stream (and what are presumably the easiest parts of the game), it's possible we'll get a full ragequit at some point.

His Sifu gameplay looks almost like classic DSP. He isn't good at the game, so it must be terrible. Everything sucks. The camera is bad. He didn't do that! It's unfair. It's poorly designed. Fuck this!

It's too bad no one could've predicted he would hate this game and be terrible at it. Oh, wait, tons of detractors predicted that exact thing.

"Get a life," he tweeted in the middle of the night after he finished reading all the mean things people said about him on KF.

Being extremely boring most of the time may have helped chase away some detractors, but it's also a large part of what keeps him from ever growing his channel. I'm pretty sure his real fans would prefer the old DSP. Even at his best, he wasn't very good, but there was at least some passion and a sense of fun.

I can't remember, but wasn't the tip goal during the vest streak $100 per stream? Back then (which wasn't that long ago), $200 a day was huge for him. Yet now, he's easily averaging more than that each day (not to mention plenty of superchats) and is begging harder than ever. His whales better hope they don't start consistently giving him $300 a day, because then he'll raise the goal and start whining about how $350 a day isn't enough to buy groceries.

I would be interested in seeing the reaction of a new viewer, and I mean someone who had never even heard of DSP before and was therefore going into the stream with zero expections.

The truly baffling thing is that these people get nothing out of supporting DSP. There are no perks or benefits. He does not use the money to improve the stream. He will not relent in his begging if extra money comes his way. The money is gone as soon as it comes in, and fuck you if you question where it's all going.

The lack of growth is, as always, entirely his own fault. Sure, he's an awful streamer who couldn't retain a new viewer to save his life. But I think the more important factor is that he spent years neglecting his YouTube channel while outright telling his viewers it didn't matter because it was just an archive.

I know I've mentioned this point several times, but it always irritates me that he can't understand why games don't do as well on the night stream. He said that Pokemon did well the first couple day streams, then got far less support the first night stream, and he doesn't know why.

Less time streaming + fewer viewers = less money. It's not remotely difficult to understand.

Halo is on hold until new content is released, so a big "Thanks for the money, dummies!" to all the members who were told they'd get the chance to do multiplayer with him.

First time doing the new Pokemon game on the night stream and donations are low. DSP doesn't know why, and there's nothing he can do, but he's enjoying the game.

ReaperCloud posted...

Do people want to watch old people play games horribly AND pay them for the privilege to watch?!

I mean, that's what DSP's audience has been doing for years. I assume 60-year-old DSP would have worse reflexes and would need to take extra bathroom breaks, but it wouldn't be that much different from what he's doing right now.

BlackBlueButts posted...

Well, 10 year plan is out the window. He's gonna still be there when he's 60 and hopes his audience sticks with him.

It's the same plan as always: DSP does fuck all while his viewers must support him.

I'm pretty sure he's still offering zero perks for becoming a member. His viewers are so used to him offering them literally nothing in return for their support that they'd probably jump at the chance to get even the smallest perk, but he still won't do anything.

It's hilarious that his idea of "rebranding" seems to focus on building his channel up by increasing likes and members, yet the only thing he's willing to do is repeatedly ask people to buy memberships and like his videos.

BlackBlueButts posted...

And phil has been quick to show evidence debunking other stuff, like the escort saga. Here he refuses to do that. Just take his word for it!

If anyone else was accused of scamming that much money just to dump it into a mobile game, they would do anything in their power to prove their innocence. Beyond proving DSP right, it would be the biggest win over the trolls and haters ever. And yet he won't do it... for some reason.