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| Topic | The french surrender stereotype/joke has to be the dumbest one of all time. |
| TheShadowViper 05/10/17 12:04:00 AM #65 | Nowhereman24 posted... The French defeated the Germans at Verdun and at the First and Second Battles of the Marne and then played a large roll in the 100 days offensive. They won the decisive battles that really mattered. The battle of Verdun could barely be called a victory and the first and second battles of Marne were fought with allied forces. You literally listed one battle out of dozens that were fought where France could be said to have achieved a victory. Almost every single other battle, that did not include allied forces, was a draw or a loss. Battle of the Frontiers Battle of the Ardennes First Battle of the Aisne Battle of Champagne Third Battle of Artois Battle of the Somme Second Battle of the Aisne Third Battle of the Aisne Are just a few of the battles they lost or came to a draw in. You literally have one battle, where victory was dubious as both sides suffered heavy casualties, as an example for France "defending itself". |
| Topic | The french surrender stereotype/joke has to be the dumbest one of all time. |
| TheShadowViper 05/09/17 11:43:53 PM #60 | Sinroth posted... TheShadowViper posted...Broseph_Stalin posted...TheShadowViper posted...The French were pushed back in World War 1 Oh no! Are you suggesting it is my bed time? Oh please don't unleash that wit on me again!!!! I don't think I could handle it. |
| Topic | The french surrender stereotype/joke has to be the dumbest one of all time. |
| TheShadowViper 05/09/17 11:39:33 PM #56 | Broseph_Stalin posted... TheShadowViper posted...The French were pushed back in World War 1 They lost just about every significant battle they fought in WW1 without allied forces. I think you need to learn what being defeated is. If a country continually loses battles and needs their buddies to help them win, they were defeated before help arrived. And definition of defeat, buddy: win a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome or beat. |
| Topic | The french surrender stereotype/joke has to be the dumbest one of all time. |
| TheShadowViper 05/09/17 11:35:58 PM #52 | The French were pushed back in World War 1 and needed the help of the allies to turn the tide back against Germany. I don't have time to go through every battle, there is a wiki for it. |
| Topic | The french surrender stereotype/joke has to be the dumbest one of all time. |
| TheShadowViper 05/09/17 11:31:38 PM #46 | Paper_Okami posted... ASithLord7 posted...Hell the US likely wouldnt even exist without France's military Saved our ass? No. There is no way to know the outcome of the war had the French not joined forces with us, but there is absolutely no historical evidence that the war was unwinnable without them. As for the topic, France was defeated (or would have been defeated had they not received significant aid) in both World Wars, and are largely the reason Vietnam became a problem as they lost it as a colony and moved out of the region. Additionally, France has a reputation as terrible at war because of their recent conflicts not because of their conflicts hundreds of years ago. |
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