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Rika_Furude posted...

You cant genuinely claim to care about an issue when you are directly or indirectly contributing to making the issue worse. That just makes them hypocrites.

Yea for instance Biden bringing over refugees is something Trump is so against he literally raged over it.

Is that not a good thing for Biden to do?

Yet silence...crickets...

No he is not on the level of Trump.

1337toothbrush posted...

Well voting for him certainly isn't stopping it.

So hope he loses and Trump doesn't do anything he promises to do?

Makes no logical sense.

1337toothbrush posted...

Saying "well trump will probably make it go faster" or "he'll include American citizens in there somehow" is just pure conjecture based on trump's bloated ass spewing hot air.

Literally campaign promises to wealthy donors.
It is not a probably.

1337toothbrush posted...

This board is too obsessed with the idea that "vote harder" is the only strategy that exists. When asked how to get biden to stop supporting genocide, they'll suggest "vote for biden harder".

Not voting Biden = stopping genocide?

1337toothbrush posted...

The difference between biden and trump is that biden pretends he is against the genocide but actually supports it 100% while trump is vocally for the genocide and supports it 100%. Your other post about how trump said he would "set the movement back 25 or 30 years" what the fuck does that even mean? Ironically, Palestinians were doing better 25 or 30 years ago.

It means you cannot even call Palestine a state if he is elected and he will give Israel 100% go ahead to just wipe it all out, but after he ships off American citizens of Palestinian descent there.

He afterall said the citizens in Gaza all support terrorism, literally his own words. What does someone like him do to people he labels terrorists?
And you support people he calls terrorists what does he do to you?

PowerMan5000000 posted...

He never built the wall, he wont do this.

https://www.kuow.org/stories/saying-he-was-too-nice-in-his-first-term-trump-plots-an-aggressive-second-chance

In two wide-ranging interviews with TIME Magazine published Tuesday, Trump expanded upon that vision for a second term, which would buck traditional conservative viewpoints about the role of government and expand the powers of the presidency that he would then wield against a wide range of groups in America.

campaign stump speeches, Trump has vowed to enact "the largest domestic deportation operation" in history and roll back virtually every Biden administration policy around the border. He continues to equate immigrants with crime, often mentioning murders and other grisly crimes committed by non-citizens as evidence that a crackdown is needed under his watch.In the TIME interview, Trump takes that rhetoric a step further, suggesting he would use the National Guard and the U.S. military to go after migrants, potentially in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act that prevents federal troops from being used against civilians. When asked about that provision, he falsely said people in the country illegally "aren't civilians" and would not rule out constructing additional migrant detention camps.

1337toothbrush posted...

If someone doesn't want to support genocide, who can they vote for?

They should stop pretending it can't get worse when Trump literally says it can and he will make it worse.

AlveinFencer posted...

I remember the part where she said Obama was a Muslim and McCain said "No, he's an American." Take from that what you will.

Yep that is the one.

If you care aboit Palestine or Genocide you vote against Trump.

Any other action and you would be supporting this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/27/trump-donors-israel-gaza-palestinian-protests

Donald Trump has told a group of wealthy donors that he will crush pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses if he is returned to the White House.

The former president and presumptive Republican nominee called the demonstrations against Israels war in Gaza part of a radical revolution and promised the predominantly Jewish donors that he would set the movement back 25 or 30 years if they helped him beat Joe Biden in Novembers presidential election.

If you get me re-elected, were going to set that movement back 25 or 30 years, Trump replied,

LonelyStoner posted...

Ill just leave it at this:

You can vote for the lesser of two evils while criticizing the lesser of two evils.

This topic is about people not realizing how bad this is for Biden.

You say Biden will still win.

So why would someone support the topic that suggests this is ASTRONOMICALLY bad as tc op says literally, and think Biden still wins?

One can criticize Biden correct.
But this topic isn't about that. It is to suggest this is BAD for Biden.

But he...still wins?

Confusing

LonelyStoner posted...

I agree. I just highly doubt Trump will win again. Especially with the increase of younger voters since 8 years ago. I simply dislike this talk of Any criticism of Biden means youre a Trumper.

Then this is a weird topic to post in.

"Israel is REALLY BAD for the dems!!!"

Guess you disagree then? Can't be that bad if Biden still wins. Like what does really bad mean here?

EPR-radar posted...

McCain was behind the times. Remember when he was talking to that crazy GOP lady that wanted him to go all-in on bigotry vs. Obama, and he wouldn't play along?

That's where the GOP base was back then. And why wouldn't they be? Even back then, their brains were all gone from marinating in Faux News/hate radio filth for decades.

That may be true but guys like McCain at least existed.

The thing about Fascism is you don't need to be a mastermind to pull it off.

EPR-radar posted...

Trump is not the author of Project 2025, and Project 2025 is the plan for a fascist GOP takeover of America.

Indeed, Trump is just the asshole circus clown whose performances for his depraved audiences of deplorables may get the GOP in a position of power to do all that heinous shit.

And Trump first order of office is to remove all disloyal elements and fill his staff with people who refuse to say Joe Biden won in 2020.

LonelyStoner posted...

How would that work, exactly?

I have a whole topic on it. Look for Trump says he will deport protesters.

He plans to deport millions of "illegal" immigrants as well and cites as foundation to the plan Eisenhower Operation (slur I cannot type).

The military is involved but likely so will you as a regular citizen.

LonelyStoner posted...

If you havent deduced that Trump is incapable of fulfilling such outlandish promises thats on you. Im not saying hes harmless. Im saying hell say literally any ridiculous thing to make his audience of sea lions clap on command when he has literally no plan on how to do it.

Then you are uninformed on the matter. There is a plan for it and it will work. He must not be elected.

So should we all join hands as Biden voters and say cumbaya Biden sucks, Biden is an evil genocider? What does that accomplish? Seems contradictory to what we both want which is a better world and Trump will be much much worse.

Trumble posted...

Israel likes Trump more. Israel supporters dislike Biden.

LonelyStoner posted...

No one said Trump would be better than Biden.

Just that the dems are going to have extreme difficulty and Trump apparently isn't when he is worse on this issue?
Not to mention also suggesting that what makes Trump worse on this issue is just words and he could never fulfill his heinous promises?

What does saying all that accomplish for someone who is voting Biden as you said you are?

Here is thread about all Trump's statements about Israel and deporting protestors...
Trump is really bad on this issue Biden looks like a saint:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80777970

"Guys let us consider the election and how Israel is bad for Biden but don't you dare bring up Trump."

That is a strange ask

Trumble posted...

If someone is specifically comparing the two and they criticize Biden while giving Trump a free pass, you have a point.

If they are only talking about one of those people, what the other one would do / has done is not a defence.

What does "is bad for dems" mean?
They will lose the election?
And who is involved in this election?

You are not just talking about Biden alone. You are comparing to Trump because you are talking about the election and it being bad for dems.
How is it bad for the dems if Trump promises to do worse is the big elephant in the room.

Oh perhaps because people want to only look at Biden..

1337toothbrush posted...

Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses?

Because Trump literally said himself he would do worse.

LonelyStoner posted...

Come back down. A criticism of Biden isnt an endorsement for Trump.

The issue is you are criticizing Biden for something Trump is far worse about.

Trump said he will deport protestors, support Israel more and called Gaza the worst terrorist haven on the planet.

LonelyStoner posted...

Did I say We cant fault him for that.?

Hes a dimwitted troll doll who makes empty threats and promises. Like his big bad wall that he said he would make Mexico pay for.

Why pretend he can't do it then? The only value of that claim seems to be to not fault him for it.
But he will get away with it if he is elected. Don't be fooled on that. If that scares you vote Biden.
He may even call you to help him deport people.

ellis123 posted...

Who would stop him?

Surely all the people who criticize Biden but want us to forget Trump is worse will stop him.

LonelyStoner posted...

He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president.

He does.
And if your argument is "oh he can't do the one thing he says he will do the most therefore we can't fault him for that"

Lmao

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Fascist don't care, they are too short sighted they need the power now because they believe themselves to be immune to consequences. Why do you think it's always, EVERY SINGLE TIME, a bloody messy war to deal with them.

The goal is to rapidly gain power. The thought that people won't let it happen is foolish. You must never let them be in charge.

luigi33 posted...

silencing of these protestors

????

Furry Robocop??

Why would they stop making amiibo?
Who even cares about the in game functionality anymore.

Gimme some of that Joe Biden Facui Honey....mmmmm

Dakimakura posted...

Joe Biden rap diss track on Trump where?

Google Biden not like us. Someone on his campaign made an ai one.

He did

Video is just a guy narrating.

Meanwhile every video I seen of Tyson actually talking he calls Jake his friend.

Fake? Video might be fake

Same judge. Man rolls blunt on zoom.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=G5l5aXxoJo0LduUP&v=3J0zLmzYpyU

Thanos can also turn white ultra instinc thanos

Like a scene out of Joker

stairs?

yet humans have turned said apex predators into entertainment

WAIT

the guy at the start of the party rock video, is he the Chief of Police from Reacher!?!

HE IS

Tyranthraxus posted...

I get all that really the thing is when people say "really good music video" shit like this isn't what pops into my mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3zJZ2d4cis

And this video has got a lot more going on in it than Beyonce's.

Music video like this is like "we need one just cause"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8

Heineken14 posted...

The thing that was debated on for months, compromised in, and then passed the Senate with 60 votes?

Yes. It was a time were they finally said this is something America needs forget the Republican sabotage and go forward:

The bill then passed, also 6039, on December 24, 2009, with all Democrats and two independents voting for it, and all Republicans against (except Jim Bunning, who did not vote). The bill was endorsed by the American Medical Association and AARP.

The_Popo posted...

Dems never seem to really go with the f*** it, lets just do it until we cant do it mentality.

Obama did with Obamacare

nah Taylor > Beyonce Video

LordRazziel posted...

I think you understand.

I don't. Are you flaming me?

surely it has nothing to do with criticizing Biden all the time and saying it doesn't matter what Trump plans to do just focus on what Biden is doing now right?

LordRazziel posted...

what

EPR-radar posted...

The Republican party has been a gang of fascists looking for their Fuhrer for a long time, and they finally found him in 2016.

Don't think they were back in Bush era to be honest. You had guys like McCain who respected democracy.

maybe don't knock over their papers

so threat that if he wins and you didn't vote him, you go to jail?