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TopicBasically I'm of the opinion that The Divine Comedy cannot be properly translate
WingsOfGood
05/25/24 2:50:12 PM
#38
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
bruh the divine comedy is not one of the most enduring works of fiction just because kids have to read Inferno in school.

Its concepts and depictions of the afterlife were absolutely revolutionary considering this was made in the 1300s

This work was mostly forgotten about during the enlightenment actually.

Dante wrote about things that were more or less the thought of the common man (maybe not the peasant but those who could read).
Churches of the time have depictions predating him that had gruesome imaginative scenes of hell.

Moreover many writers did the same. Infact around this time there is a famous Islamic work that is so much so that there is a debate that Dante had copied from it.

Other works, pre-Dante

Mechthild of Magdeburg
https://books.google.com/books?id=vH3dYiGG-5sC&pg=PA127

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_de_Purgatorio_Sancti_Patricii
Owen visits four fields of punishment where, as in earlier visionary and apocalyptic accounts, sinners are devoured by dragons, set upon by serpents and toads, fixed to the ground with red-hot nails, baked in furnaces, immersed to various degrees in boiling cauldrons, and hooked to a flaming version of Ixion's wheel. Moving south, Owen and his demonic guides come upon a well from which naked bodies spew forth like sparks and then fall back into the sulphurous flames. "This is the mouth of hell," the demons say as they cast Owen in. He falls endlessly for this well is none other than the realm of utterly lost souls, the bottomless pit described in Revelation 20:1-3.32. No longer a mere spectator, Owen descends into a deadly state of oblivion, forgetting to call on God's name. Through a last-minute divine intervention, Owen remembers the invocation and a tongue of flame lifts him up to safety.



But as it is said to have been "RE-DISCOVERED" after the enlightenment, the divine Comedy became something you had to be culturalized to in every college literature program. Keep in mind when you go to some literature class they are trained to prop it up and tell why you it is so vastly important to the world. To that end, it was a popular work during the Renaissance, and that is to the credit of it.
TopicBasically I'm of the opinion that The Divine Comedy cannot be properly translate
WingsOfGood
05/25/24 1:45:05 PM
#31
Billyionaire posted...
Then that's pure fiction. The currents events part of the equation is literally missing and is no longer there. Making that a totally different sort of story than the one you're claiming the Divine Comedy to be

That is the risk of covering contextually significant current events in your story. Usually when you write in that way it is not designed for a guy 1000 years from then to read it and go "oh my sooo goood! ahh!"
Dante probably didn't intend this at all and infact the book wasn't that well regarded till some dudes much later decided to prop it up and then force school children to read it and tell them it is so good and they must agree as part of their "education" and "culturalization".

TopicBasically I'm of the opinion that The Divine Comedy cannot be properly translate
WingsOfGood
05/25/24 12:16:45 PM
#25
Billyionaire posted...
fanFICTION isn't fiction if it's based on current events. Especially considering a lot of the people he saw in Hell probably actually, frankly speaking, ended up in Hell according to the sins they committed

Most fiction has current events in it. And honestly the idea it cannot be translated sounds like you view this fictional book way more than it is worth.
TopicDo You Think Trump Will Successfully Overturn Democracy?
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 2:00:06 PM
#5
If the supreme court takes his side he already has.
TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 1:44:06 PM
#31
Tyranthraxus posted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ3SSNJIQ2k

good video

watching this one now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoMRzx3o31I
TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 1:32:32 PM
#29
MICHALECOLE posted...
What are you hmming?

Why they are allowed to continue teaching new officers to be this way when it is well known to be an issue
TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 12:36:02 PM
#22
ScazarMeltex posted...
It's the way they are trained.

Hmmmmmm
TopicGermany has TOO MANY solar panels, pushing energy prices into the negative
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 12:14:14 PM
#16
Robot2600 posted...
Huh! I never knew The Grapes of Wrath was written in 2024.

yea Steinbeck is a prolific redditor
TopicThe hell is this Trump "Black Card?"
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 12:12:29 PM
#12
Heineken14 posted...
It gets you 25% off dry cleaning your pointed hood.

no that is the Trump white card
TopicGermany has TOO MANY solar panels, pushing energy prices into the negative
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 12:08:14 PM
#11
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Man, greed sure does have a way of making a person sound like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Imagine being upset about the idea of excess energy production.

The other day some dude showed on reddit apples their farm threw out because they had too many and every order was filled.
It was like thousands and thousands, was crazy. They deleted the pic unfortunately.

Someone posted this though:

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all.
Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up?
And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains.
And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success.
The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit.
And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange.
And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed.
And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.
John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath
TopicGermany has TOO MANY solar panels, pushing energy prices into the negative
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:52:39 AM
#9
Robot2600 posted...
Imagine bitching that you made power free, and then thinking u have a problem.

the shareholders are mad
TopicGermany has TOO MANY solar panels, pushing energy prices into the negative
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:40:47 AM
#7
CableZL posted...
We need this setup in Texas

big oil wouldn't allow that
TopicGermany has TOO MANY solar panels, pushing energy prices into the negative
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:32:53 AM
#2
in Capitalism you purposely destroy something so you can continue making a profit rather than just give it to everyone who needs it even if you 100% can do that easily

or that is to say you make sure there is people who go without, so people pay to not
TopicMagneto and T-60 Power armor in Fortnite!
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:29:54 AM
#3
Also wtf did you see the typo in the link?

Megneto

LMAO

MEGneto
TopicMagneto and T-60 Power armor in Fortnite!
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:29:11 AM
#2
Wouldn't Magneto crush them instantly in that tin can?
TopicParticles spontaneously appear in empty space and then disappear.
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:28:05 AM
#3
BewmHedshot posted...
Yes, the ground state of the vacuum isn't zero energy.

particles blinking into and out of existence.
TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:25:11 AM
#11
texanfan27 posted...
but this just screams off.

which means?

This idea that you can identify what is off is why this happened because you can't and cops can't either.
TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:24:07 AM
#9
mystic_belmont posted...
I hope he sues and bankrupts the city.

Every single case these cops were involved with should be opened and investigated.

Did you only read my tl;dr?

Literally the first sentence

Fontana pays nearly $900,000 for psychological torture inflicted by police to get false confession
TopicParticles spontaneously appear in empty space and then disappear.
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:23:00 AM
#1
https://bigthink.com/hard-science/nothing-exist-quantum-foam/

When you combine the Uncertainty Principle with Einsteins famous equation, you get a mind-blowing result: Particles can come from nothing.

  • The concept of nothing has been debated for millennia, by both scientists and philosophers.
  • Even if you took an empty container devoid of all matter and cooled it to absolute zero, there is still something in the container.
  • That something is called quantum foam, and it represents particles blinking into and out of existence.


These quantum principles have mind-bending consequences for anyone trying to understand the nature of nothing. For example, if you try to measure the amount of energy at a location even if that energy is supposed to be nothing you still cannot measure zero precisely. Sometimes, when you make the measurement, the expected zero turns out to be non-zero. And this isnt just a measurement problem; its a feature of reality. For short periods of time, zero is not always zero.
When you combine this bizarre fact (that zero expected energy can be non-zero, if you examine a short enough time period) with Einsteins famous equation E = mc2, there is an even more bizarre consequence. Einsteins equation says that energy is matter and vice versa. Combined with quantum theory, this means that in a location that is supposedly entirely empty and devoid of energy, space can briefly fluctuate to non-zero energy and that temporary energy can make matter (and antimatter) particles.

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What is nothing? This is a question that has bothered philosophers as far back as the ancient Greeks, where they debated the nature of the void. They had long discussions trying to determine whether nothing is something.
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While the philosophical facets of this question pose some interest, the question is also one that the scientific community has addressed. (Big Thinks Dr. Ethan Siegel has an article describing the four definitions of nothing.)
Its nothing, really
What would happen if scientists took a container and removed all the air out of it, creating an ideal vacuum that was entirely devoid of matter? The removal of matter would mean that energy would remain. Much in the same way that the energy from the Sun can cross to the Earth through empty space, heat from outside the container would radiate into the container. Thus, the container wouldnt be truly empty.
However, what if scientists also cooled the container to the lowest possible temperature (absolute zero), so it radiated no energy at all? Furthermore, suppose that scientists shielded the container so no outside energy or radiation could penetrate it. Then there would be absolutely nothing inside the container, right?
Thats where things become counterintuitive. It turns out that nothing isnt nothing.
The nature of nothing
The laws of quantum mechanics are confusing, predicting that particles are also waves and that cats are simultaneously alive and dead. However, one of the most confusing of all quantum principles is called the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which is commonly explained as saying that you cannot simultaneously perfectly measure the location and movement of a subatomic particle. While that is a good representation of the principle, it also says that you cannot measure the energy of anything perfectly and that the shorter the time you measure, the worse your measurement is. Taken to the extreme, if you try to make a measurement in near-zero time, your measurement will be infinitely imprecise.
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These quantum principles have mind-bending consequences for anyone trying to understand the nature of nothing. For example, if you try to measure the amount of energy at a location even if that energy is supposed to be nothing you still cannot measure zero precisely. Sometimes, when you make the measurement, the expected zero turns out to be non-zero. And this isnt just a measurement problem; its a feature of reality. For short periods of time, zero is not always zero.
When you combine this bizarre fact (that zero expected energy can be non-zero, if you examine a short enough time period) with Einsteins famous equation E = mc2, there is an even more bizarre consequence. Einsteins equation says that energy is matter and vice versa. Combined with quantum theory, this means that in a location that is supposedly entirely empty and devoid of energy, space can briefly fluctuate to non-zero energy and that temporary energy can make matter (and antimatter) particles.
Quantum foam

Thus, at the tiny quantum level, empty space isnt empty. Its actually a vibrant place, with tiny subatomic particles appearing and disappearing in wanton abandon. This appearance and disappearance has some superficial resemblance to the effervescent behavior of the foam on the top of a freshly poured beer, with bubbles appearing and disappearing hence the term quantum foam.
The quantum foam isnt just theoretical. It is quite real. One demonstration of this is when researchers measure the magnetic properties of subatomic particles like electrons. If the quantum foam isnt real, electrons should be magnets with a certain strength. However, when measurements are made, it turns out that the magnetic strength of electrons is slightly higher (by about 0.1%). When the effect due to quantum foam is taken into account, theory and measurement agree perfectly to twelve digits of accuracy.
Another demonstration of the quantum foam comes courtesy of the Casimir Effect, named after Dutch physicist Hendrik Casimir. The effect goes something like this: Take two metal plates and put them very near one another in a perfect vacuum, separated by a tiny fraction of a millimeter. If the quantum foam idea is right, then the vacuum surrounding the plates is filled with an unseen flurry of subatomic particles blinking into and out of existence.
These particles have a range of energies, with the most likely energy being very small, but occasionally higher energies appear. This is where more familiar quantum effects come into play because classical quantum theory says that particles are both particles and waves. And waves have wavelengths.
Outside the tiny gap, all waves can fit without restriction. However, inside the gap, only waves that are shorter than the gap can exist. Long waves simply cannot fit. Thus, outside the gap, there are waves of all wavelengths, while inside the gap there are only short wavelengths. This basically means that there are more kinds of particles outside than inside, and the effect is that there is a net pressure inward. Thus, if the quantum foam is real, the plates will be pushed together.
Scientists made several measurements of the Casimir effect, however it was in 2001 when the effect was conclusively demonstrated using the geometry I have described here. The pressure due to the quantum foam causes the plates to move. The quantum foam is real. Nothing is something after all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1czgtec/in_empty_space_according_to_quantum_physics/
TopicFontana police torture man for reporting his father as missing.
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:15:10 AM
#13
Three of the involved officers remain employed with the department. One other officer has retired.

despicable

this is why the whole no good cop thing is said. when bad cops are found all the good cops defend them such that they don't get punished
TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:12:06 AM
#3
Three of the involved officers remain employed with the department. One other officer has retired.


just wow

TopicMan reports missing Father.Cops make him confess to killing Father; was not dead
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 11:07:35 AM
#1
The Tl;dr.
Man reports his missing father.
Police says his dad is found dead and processed in morgue.
Police detain the man for 17 hours making him miss his medications.
They torture him enough such that he confesses to killing his father and tries to hang himself.

His father was not dead as he calls the man's sister and cops are notified.

Then after OOOPS, Police get a warrant to search man's house claiming he assaulted an unknown vitcim. Nothing was found.

https://www.sbsun.com/2024/05/23/fontana-pays-nearly-900000-for-psychological-torture-inflicted-by-police-to-get-false-confession/

Fontana pays nearly $900,000 for psychological torture inflicted by police to get false confession
In my 40 years of suing the police I have never seen that level of deliberate cruelty, says an attorney for Thomas Perez Jr.

Within hours after Thomas Perez Jr. called police to report his father missing, he found himself in a tiny interrogation room confronted by Fontana detectives determined to extract a confession that he killed his dad.
Perez had told police that his father, 71-year-old Thomas Perez Sr., went out for a walk with the family dog at about 10 p.m. on Aug. 7, 2018. The dog returned within minutes without Perezs father. Investigators didnt believe his story, and over the next 17 hours they grilled him to try to get to the truth.
According to court records, detectives told Perez that his father was dead, that they had recovered his body and it now wore a toe tag at the morgue. They said they had evidence that Perez killed his father and that he should just admit it, records show.
Perez insisted he didnt remember killing anyone, but detectives allegedly told him that the human mind often tries to suppress troubling memories.
At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. OK? Your dogs now gone, forget about it, said an investigator.

How can you sit there, how can you sit there and say you dont know what happened, and your dog is sitting there looking at you, knowing that you killed your dad? a detective said. Look at your dog. She knows, because she was walking through all the blood.
Finally, after curling up with the dog on the floor, Perez broke down and confessed. He said he had stabbed his father multiple times with a pair of scissors during an altercation in which his father hit Perez over the head with a beer bottle.

Suicide attempt
He was so distraught that he even tried to hang himself with the drawstring from his shorts after being left alone in the interrogation room. Perez was arrested, handcuffed and transported to a mental hospital for 72-hour observation.
But later that day, the truth derailed the detectives theory and their prized confession.
Perezs father wasnt dead or even missing. Thomas Sr. was at Los Angeles International Airport waiting for a flight to see his daughter in Northern California. But police didnt immediately tell Perez.
Mentally torturing a false confession out of Tom Perez, concealing from him that his father was alive and well, and confining him in the psych ward because they made him suicidal, in my 40 years of suing the police I have never seen that level of deliberate cruelty by the police, said Jerry Steering, Perezs attorney in Newport Beach.
$900,000 settlement
Steering filed a civil rights lawsuit in federal court against the city of Fontana, alleging that police psychologically tortured Perez and coerced a false confession without first determining that the father had actually been slain. The suit was recently settled for nearly $900,000.
Fontana police did not return an email seeking comment. Three of the involved officers remain employed with the department. One other officer has retired.
So how could this happen?

Why police were suspicious
In court documents and depositions, police say they had reason to believe Perez was lying.
First, they noted he seemed distracted and unconcerned during the 911 call, according to court records. Officers responding to the call noted the fathers cellphone and wallet were still at the home, which was in disarray. Police saw the mess as a sign of a struggle, but Steering said Perez was renovating the house and had argued with his father about it.
Additionally, a police dog sniffed out the scent of a corpse in the fathers bedroom. And there were small blood stains in the house. Steering later would say the blood stains were caused by the fathers finger-prick diabetes tests.
Perezs lawsuit claims detectives also refused for several hours to retrieve his medication for high blood pressure, asthma, depression and stress.

Father turns up alive
Perezs nightmare ended shortly after police got a phone call from his sister, who said their father was alive and well. He had actually walked to the train station in Fontana and rode the line to Los Angeles County to visit a relative and then took a bus to visit a female friend, Steering said. Perez Sr. later went to the airport to await a flight to Oakland to visit his daughter.
Police picked up the father at the airport and brought him to the Fontana station.
But the investigation didnt stop there. Detectives obtained a warrant to again search Perezs house for evidence that he had assaulted an unknown victim, according to Gees summary.
It appears none was found.


The whole "why the Police were suspicious" part shows how Police intuition is bullshit and just creates situations where they bullying the innocent.
Topicspeed of Aldi cashier left this Mom 'crying and shaking' beside her kids
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 10:57:11 AM
#1
Who is the guy who won Cashier of the year or what that was on CE? Think you can beat this guy? Or is that you?

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mum-claims-speed-aldi-cashier-21308484

The loyal Aldi shopper says the worker refused to slow down his scanning - even as food fell from the allocated packing area onto the floor "like a slot machine."

A British mother was left 'in tears' and 'in shock' after a confrontation with an Aldi cashier.
The mum says she was shopping with her three children when the row over the speed of his scanning occurred.

She said she was left traumatised by his "aggressive approach" and the "ferocious" speed of the conveyor belts while checking out.
The loyal Aldi shopper says the worker refused to slow down his scanning - even as food fell from the allocated packing area onto the floor "like a slot machine."

he 35-year-old says fellow customers were "gawping" as the cashier continued to scan "piling the food high."Eventually "huge towers" of products piled up, as Nicola "frantically reached" to pack her bags as quickly as possible.
"He could see my struggle and when a tin finally fell, I began crying and shaking," she said.
"I knelt to the floor to pick up the food while simultaneously trying to watch my children.
"I asked the cashier to please stop scanning through more food and that it felt like he was throwing the items at me."
But Nicola says she received a "blunt and aggressive" response, as the cashier accused her of not "packing quickly enough" and dubbed her a "liar" for her accusations.
Nicola said another Aldi worker then took over and diffused the tense exchange, while the cashier walked away.
"The other worker was very lovely and understanding," she said. "But the incident has personally knocked my confidence.
"Shopping with three children can be challenging enough without suffering panic and anxiety at the checkout and leaving the store in tears.
"I was shocked how someone in customer care could disregard my struggle with no empathy or care whatsoever. It's totally unacceptable."
Nicola, who was shopping with her children aged two, three and seven, says she reported the incident to Aldi's customer care team, who say they have raised it with the area manager.
Having shopped at the supermarket chain for the last 10 years, she says she now feels "worried" about returning to the store.
"Normally I pop into Aldi a couple of times a week, but I've been putting it off," she said.
"I'll have to face it at some stage, but the experience has really unnerved me and I'll be steering well clear of that particular employee."
Her account raises wider questions about the limited space in Aldi packing areas, which has divided shoppers before.
She said: "I've never liked the checkouts. It's always a rush, and the area is so small. I've never had an experience as horrid as this one though."
An Aldi spokesperson said: Our colleagues are trained to work at a pace suitable for each individual customer. We have spoken to Ms Fuller to apologise for her experience at the Guisborough store and hope to see her again in the future.
TopicThat part of the bible where the woman grabbed Jesus' robe always stuck with me
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 10:32:46 AM
#30
Fenriswolf posted...
Joseph is a carpenter, so they're the equivalent of the middle class of that era.

You think Joseph sent him an allowance at 30 as Jesus eloped and walk across the region jobless?

Anyways here is the infos:
Leviticus 23:22
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the foreigner residing among you. I am the LORD your God.

Matthew 12:1
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat.

TopicSome Americans live in a parallel economy where everything is terrible
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 10:26:23 AM
#11
BlueKat posted...
It's a not "parallel" or "Mandela." The economy is complex and affects different people in different ways

Berenstain Banks
Topic50 percent of people are of below average intelligence.
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 10:22:35 AM
#20
divot1338 posted...
Think about how dumb the average person is.

Now realize that 95% of people are within two standard deviations of them.

so it isn't about what is the actual average but what you make up in your head about how dumb you "think" the average person is?
TopicSome Americans live in a parallel economy where everything is terrible
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 10:20:48 AM
#1
Mandelaconomy

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/some-americans-live-in-a-parallel-economy-where-everything-is-terrible-162707378.html

Is the economy booming or busting?
Depends on whom you ask.
The official data is buoyant economic growth is solid, the job market is strong, and stocks keep hitting record highs.
Yet many Americans think the economy stinks.
The latest gloomy indicator is a Guardian-Harris survey in which 55% of respondents said they think the economy is shrinking and 56% think were in the midst of a recession.
Economic output, adjusted for inflation, grew by a solid 3% during the most recent 12-month period. The unemployment rate is 3.9%. And the US economy created over 3.5 million jobs in 2023.

You basically cant have a recession when the economy is growing and employers keep hiring at this rate. But this Harris poll isnt a one-off.
A leading measure of small business sentiment is near recessionary levels. So are some consumer confidence surveys. President Bidens approval rating is in the tank, too, indicating many Americans associate the poor economy they think we have with the job Biden has done as president.
The Guardian-Harris survey also found that 49% of respondents think the S&P 500 index is down for the year. In reality, stocks have been ripping: The S&P 500 is up 13% this year on top of a 24% gain last year.
Something seems off with the Guardian-Harris finding that half of Americans think the stock market is in decline. In a different survey, Gallup found that 62% of Americans own stocks, mostly through retirement and investing accounts. If that's true, wouldn't most or all of those people know their portfolios are gaining value?
The Guardian-Harris poll didn't specify how many respondents own stocks, but these two surveys seem to conflict. People know how much money they have, and stock market investors are either underrepresented in the Harris poll or overrepresented in Gallup's.

Statistical anomalies probably explain part of the reason why polls show people to be remarkably dour about an economy doing pretty well, but it would be a mistake to think this is just a measurement problem. Or worse, to think many people are just too dumb to know how good they have it.
This is perhaps Biden's top problem as he seeks a second term in office: convincing Americans that the economy is working for them without talking down or sounding dismissive.

Inflation is obviously one of the main economic gremlins of the last three years.
Yahoo Finances Janna Herron recently explained how consumers consider the optimal level of inflation to be basically zero, considerably lower than the Federal Reserves 2% target.
If zero inflation is ideal for most people, inflation peaking at 9% in June 2022 served as a traumatic shock. Even the current rate of 3.4%, fairly close to the Feds target, is way too high if your hope is prices never go up.
There's plenty of other evidence showing Americans continue to feel stung by prices that have gone up and stayed up, even if the annual rate of change is now more benign.
Another challenge for Biden is that many Americans are probably comparing today's US economy to the economy in 2019. On that basis, yes, inflation is worse now, gas prices are higher, and there are unnerving wars in Europe and the Middle East.

Compared to the rest of the world, however, US economy looks fantastic. No economy emerged from the COVID pandemic stronger. Inflation, caused mainly by COVID-related supply chain snafus, emerged mostly everywhere, and it has fallen more quickly in the United States than in most other places. Telling voters it could be worse, however, is rarely a winning message.
Its also irrational to compare the Biden economy to that of his predecessor, Donald Trump, whos back this year making another run for the White House.
Theres a good chance the economy would have looked more or less the same from 2017 to 2021 if Biden were president instead of Trump. Same for the last three years, if Trump were in office instead of Biden.
The factors that have changed the US economy in the last few years are more influential than anything Trump or Biden has done.
Trump enjoyed a benign economic environment. And, importantly, American shale energy firms were competing for market share with Middle East oil drillers, which led to overproduction and low gas prices for consumers. On the other hand, Trump got slammed with the COVID outbreak in 2020 and the madness of lockdowns and business closures.
Biden took office as COVID vaccines were rolling out, allowing a gradual return to normal. But COVID disruptions generated the inflation thats been the bane of Bidens presidency.
Russias 2022 invasion of Ukraine sent energy prices soaring just as the OPEC+ nations were cutting output and American drillers were focusing on profitability over market share. All of that pushed energy prices higher, contributing to a big chunk of the soaring inflation in 2022 that still hangs over Biden's economic record.
Something else that may be bumming people out is the end of COVID stimulus.
In annual surveys conducted by the Federal Reserve, Americans reported their best financial health in 2021 when the economy was still making up lost ground from the pandemic-related downturn. The economy got progressively stronger in 2022 and 2023, but Americans said their financial situation deteriorated in each of those years as prices rose.

The peak thrust of $6 trillion worth of COVID-related stimulus for consumers and businesses flowed through in 2021. As those programs ended, the excess savings that built up while people were stuck at home receiving stimulus checks dried up and were basically gone by the end of 2023.
So, if Americans are comparing the economy now to one from three years ago that featured the government raining down helicopter money, then yeah, its a little tougher.
Now, do endless surveys asking people their opinions on the economy even matter? If Biden wins reelection in November, maybe not.
But if voters bounce Biden, it will be clear theyve been signaling their displeasure for a good long while. Even if the data doesn't totally back it up.
TopicIsrael:Serious Consequences for Ireland, Norway And Spain recognizing Palestine
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 10:17:34 AM
#1
https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-warns-of-serious-consequences-for-ties-with-countries-recognising-palestinian-state-75a3c8c2

Israel's foreign ministry said Thursday that Israel's ties with Ireland, Norway and Spain will face "serious consequences" after their governments decided to recognise a Palestinian state from next week.
"There will be additional serious consequences for relations with their countries following the decision they made," the ministry statement quoted top official Jacob Blitstein as saying.
Blitstein was speaking during a meeting with the envoys of the three countries to "reprimand" them for their governments' move announced on Wednesday.
During the meeting, Israeli officials showed the three envoys a video of the kidnapping of five women soldiers during the October 7 attack by Hamas.
The three-minute clip, also released to the media on Wednesday, showed the women sitting on the ground, some with blood on their faces, with their hands tied following their capture from the Nahal Oz base in southern Israel.
The footage was taken from a two-hour video filmed on a body camera by Hamas militants during the attack, campaign group Hostage and Missing Families Forum said in a statement accompanying the clip.
At Thursday's meeting, Blitstein "reprimanded the ambassadors for the perverse decision of their governments to recognise a Palestinian state," the ministry statement said.

He said the recognition move makes it "more difficult to promote a deal for the release of hostages" still held in Gaza by Palestinian militants.
The coordinated announcements by the three governments came days after the International Criminal Court prosecutor said he would seek arrest warrants for Israel's prime minister and defence minister as well as Hamas leaders over alleged war crimes during the Gaza conflict.
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, who has visited several countries to drum up support for recognition, said the move would reinforce efforts to revive a two-state solution to the Middle East conflict.
Israel has reacted with fury, immediately recalling its envoys to the three countries.

"The intention of several European countries to recognise a Palestinian state is a reward for terror," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday, adding that a sovereign State of Palestine would be a "terror state".
TopicThat part of the bible where the woman grabbed Jesus' robe always stuck with me
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 9:53:42 AM
#28
Phantom36 posted...
What always stuck with me is that the bible implies that Jesus was rich af.

Remember he had a ministry and one of his apostles was his treasurer. Broke people don't need a treasurer. On palm Sunday he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey, well 2,000+ years ago in the middle east that was luxury travel, like the freakin' pope mobile. His robe was also a very expensive and valuable piece of clothing at the time, like a designer suit today.

On palm Sunday he basically did the equivalent of what today would be driving into Jerusalem in a Bentley while wearing a nice suit while his ministry was earning him a net worth, and people think Jesus, if he existed, would have been poor for some reason

What bible are you reading? Jesus was dirt poor. They go weaning in some other dudes grain field to eat. This wasn't stealing but the Law of Moses said you leave part of your field for the poor.
TopicThat part of the bible where the woman grabbed Jesus' robe always stuck with me
WingsOfGood
05/24/24 9:51:34 AM
#26
LonelyStoner posted...
Read the part with the fig tree.

What about it? It wad a succint metaphor of the fruitless temple he already said would be destroyed.
TopicDesert Power!
WingsOfGood
05/23/24 10:01:20 PM
#1
It's Haddarachin time!
TopicChange a movie's plot by removing one letter from the title
WingsOfGood
05/23/24 6:14:31 PM
#57
Matri
Topic"New Naughty Dog game will redefine mainstream perception of gaming"
WingsOfGood
05/23/24 6:11:41 PM
#37
Even more cutscenes
TopicPBS NewsHour: What's behind the growing mainstream popularity of manga and anime
WingsOfGood
05/23/24 4:09:34 PM
#9
The answer is simply there is a lot of it and a lot of it is good.
As soon as I finish one anime there is a new one to watch.
TopicHumans are disgusting if you think about it
WingsOfGood
05/23/24 11:37:20 AM
#6
Poop is what plants crave.
TopicMS being investigated over 'Recall' AI feature that tracks your every move
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 2:09:24 PM
#5
Thanks goodness the UK actually cares unlike USA.
TopicLouisiana House Votes to Criminalize Abortion Pills
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 1:46:42 PM
#4
now cops will pull people over and search for abortion pills
TopicSnake fell from sky onto Texas woman, she's then attacked by hawk
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 1:44:15 PM
#12
GiftedACIII posted...
I'd bet the average hawk would just fly away.

I bet nearly every Hawk would not just fly away as it is a meal they worked to obtain and don't think they are that scared of humans. Also it is likely the snake wasn't even poisonous.
TopicMajority of Americans wrongly believe US is in recession
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 1:37:56 PM
#28
Kradek posted...
the reason "vibecession" is a term

never heard of it so I don't think it is a term unless you just tried to make it one
TopicMajority of Americans wrongly believe US is in recession
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 1:30:46 PM
#24
we did go into recession and the media refused to ever claim that it had happened

that was like 1.5 years ago though, by this I mean back to back negative gdp
TopicTrump escalating things with false assassination attempt
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 1:29:23 PM
#24
he should be in jail except our Honorable Supreme Court Justices probably think this is true and are upset Biden tried to do this in their view
TopicSnake fell from sky onto Texas woman, she's then attacked by hawk
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 12:25:29 PM
#4
Ungrateful snake. Amazing it immediately realized she not a tree despite falling probably 20 feet.
TopicAre you concerned about the plastic in your testicles?
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 12:23:29 PM
#7
Guess our chuldren will be more adaptable to plastic implants for thr Cyberpunk future.
Topic"I never asked to be born!"
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 9:32:41 AM
#3
masterpug53 posted...
"What're you talking about? You're the sperm that swam the hardest" is the best comeback I've ever heard to this.

This is old information. They have learned sperm are cooperative and some even kamikaze to allow their "brothers" success.
TopicRFK Jr. invested $24,000 in GameStop
WingsOfGood
05/22/24 9:27:38 AM
#1
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/21/rfk-jr-says-he-invested-24000-in-gamestop-amid-re-.html

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the third-party challenger to President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump in the 2024 election, said Tuesday that he had invested $24,000 in the meme stock GameStop
, in an effort to show solidarity with retail investors over large, institutional funds.
My administration will support the Ape retail rebellion and enact aggressive Wall Street reforms, Kennedy Jr. wrote in a social media post. To match action with words, I just invested $24,000 in GameStop.

Calling themselves apes to flip the label Wall Street gave them, dumb money, this group of retail investors helped trigger explosive rallies in 2021 for shares of the struggling video game retailer GameStop and the movie theater chain AMC.
The apes were motivated in part by a desire to buck bearish Wall Street analysts grim assessments of the companies long-term prospects.
Last week, investors briefly revived the meme stock phenomenon after Roaring Kitty, the man who led the GameStop frenzy in 2021, reappeared online for the first time in years.
Kennedy Jr. is actively courting undecided voters with a fringe political brand that could appeal to some anti-establishment meme stock investors.
Kennedy Jr. has made obscure statements about his investment record. In July 2023, the candidate said he had not invested in bitcoin, even though financial records showed he owned at least $100,000 worth of the cryptocurrency.

His campaign did not immediately respond to CNBCs request for confirmation of the GameStop investment.
Hours after Kennedy Jr.s post, Trumps campaign announced that it would now accept cryptocurrency donations, also appearing to court votes from investors who oppose the traditional financial system.
Todays announcement reflects President Trumps commitment to an agenda that values freedom over socialistic government control, the Trump campaign said in a statement.
Topic"Trump has to earn my vote."
WingsOfGood
05/21/24 8:39:19 PM
#71
Kradek posted...
Actually the American electorate has a depressingly short-term memory and the reason Trump is polling so closely to Biden is largely in part to amnesia about Trump's presidency.

People on CE literally forgot about the Muslim ban.
TopicBiden: "Whats happening in Israel isnt genocide"
WingsOfGood
05/21/24 8:07:04 PM
#267
Trump also whined about how the protestors were treated better than the January 6 people and calling on more to be done to them.
TopicI have access to Current Events
WingsOfGood
05/21/24 8:02:20 PM
#10
__poi_____ posted...
Following my patented 12-step method you too can gain access to Current Events.

pls share
TopicMcConnell on Alito flying flag upside down: "Leave SC alone"
WingsOfGood
05/21/24 7:50:15 PM
#7
Mitch speaking about it proves there is something there.
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