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Topic | ~*~ The 50 most influential users in Board 8 History ~*~ (part 2) |
Xcarvengerx 01/07/12 4:06:00 AM #116 |
Aerith: Ive never thought badly of you. You came for me, didnt you? Thats plenty right there.
Here, were back in the city of Edge, where Yazoo and Loz are trying to bring down the monument in the middle of townthe meteor constructed by Rufus as a symbol of the survival of the people in Midgar. Tifa also finds out that Denzel is not his normal selfstill under the influence of Kadajand tries to shake him out of it. Further, we learn that Kadaj is on the roof of a building with Rufus and has summoned a hideous monster to attack the city
Bahamut-Sin. The people begin desperately running around trying to avoid being killed by the beast. Tifa is still trying to get Denzel to get his consciousness back while Reno and Rude seem to be confronting Loz and Yazoo. Its a most chaotic time but Cloud is nowhere to be found, it seems. Bahamut-Sin then flies into the air and shoots down a huge blast that destroys the Meteor monument and knocks out/kills many people in the process. Denzel is finally back to his normal self after waking up from Bahamuts attack. Angered that Tifa was injured in the process, Denzel tries to attack Bahamut himself, but out of nowhere, Barret comes to quickly knock him out of the way and attack the beast. Red XIII and Yuffie also come flying down with a parachute to help out Barret. While theyre distracted, four creatures attempt to attack the defenseless Tifa and Denzel. But now Cid comes jumping down from his new shipthe Sierra. Vincent also passes by the two casually as he prepares to take on the monster as wellthe entire group is back and ready to defend the city from Bahamut-Sin. Now enters the newly changed Cloud riding up on his motorcycle beside Tifa and Denzel. He gives a very meaningful quote too
Cloud: It feels lighter. Maybe I wore it down by dragging it along so much.
From this comment, we can see Tifa looking at Cloud and starts to smile. She can already tell that hes no longer the same Cloud who had shut himself off from everyone these past few years. He now had that strength
that same strength that he had two years ago. Cloud was back.
Here we can see that the entire party is going at it against Bahamut-Sin, all at the same time, but they dont appear to be very effective at all; in fact, none of their attacks appear to be doing any damage at all to the beast. Fortunately, Cloud quickly arrives onto the scene by saving Barret from a blast. Its now that the entire group pulls back and lets Cloud handle the situation and he does so with ease. This is where we truly begin to see that Cloud has suddenly taken a jump in strength. For all the partys attacks, Cloud manages to do more damage and faster. He goes head-to-head with Bahamut-Sin, eventually knocking him straight into the ground. Bahamut, sensing that he is not in an advantageous position, goes flying up far above the city and starts to create a blast that would be enough to destroy everything for miles. However, Cloud isnt about to let that happen. He jumps up to chase after Bahamut, but he cannot get there by himself. The other party members serve to send him higher and higher into the sky, but even with all their power, it still is not enough. The last person needed is Aerith. As seen in Final Fantasy VII, Aerith extends her hand to Cloud and gives him the remaining boost or energy needed to reach the flying monster. Bahamut launches his attack directly at Cloudits huge, FAR, FAR larger than Cloud himselfbut luckily he manages to pierce right through its center unscratched! He then jabs the sword into Bahamuts head and goes running down its spine. Cloud had done it; he had defeated the beast and saved the city of Edge. More than anything, he had proven that his strength was back, that HE was back. He was moving on, overcoming his sin and most importantly, being to show his caring toward everyone.
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Topic | ~*~ The 50 most influential users in Board 8 History ~*~ (part 2) |
Xcarvengerx 01/07/12 4:06:00 AM #115 |
Marlene: I dont care about you anymore, Cloud! Why dont you listen to what were saying?!
This feeling isnt just with Marlene either. Tifa shows feelings of being fed up with Cloud not listening to them either. He has shut off everyone for so long that they cannot take it anymore. But this is where we begin to see that Cloud is starting to have a breakthrough in his character. He tells Marlene to wait just a little longer, that the fight will be beginning soon. Vincent then questions Cloud, asking him whether or not it is about the fight. Cloud begins to think back to just a few hours back when he had the conversation with Tifa.
Tifa: Dont run! I know you are! Even if you find the children, you might not be able to do anything. They might be somewhere that we cant them back. Youre scared of that, arent you? But you have to react now, to more of this! A burden? Well, theres no helping that, its a heavy burden! Unless you want to live all alone, you have to deal with that! You dont want to be alone, do you? Even though you never answer, you always have your phone with you.
I felt that was one of the best lines in the entire movie. Tifa really brought up everything that had been going on. She knew Cloud, what he was thinking and how he was feeling. But she couldnt just stand by and let him act this way, she knew that he really didnt feel this way truthfully and that deep down he wanted to help the children, he wanted to help everyone, but he was afraid of failing them. His constant fears of failure lead him to not want to try anything. Tifa, I feel, is one of the biggest characters in bringing forth Clouds character. Shes always there for him, caring for him and reassuring himeven when he doesnt ask for itthat he must at least try to accomplish these things, because shes knows he is capable of completing them. After this scene, we see Cloud back with Aerith in what would appear to be the Promised Land, or an environment of heavenly nature.
Cloud: But
we just let her die.
Aerith: Really, always drifting
Hey, why dont you forgive yourself?
We are now back at the Forgotten Capital, where Cloud questions whether or not a sin can be forgiven. Vincent tells him that hes never tried. At this point, Cloud has clearly changed in his attitude. Hes different from before, hes willing to try, and hes willing to put himself out on the line again to try to help people. He tells Marlene that theyre going home and also says to Vincent that hell try it and get back to him with the answer. This next scene just furthers to reinforce the change in Cloud. We see his cellphone that had fallen out of his pocket earlier slowly falling in water. We hear all sorts of different unanswered messages from Reeve, Barret, Cid, Yuffie, Tifa, Reno, etc. All of his friends had tried to contact him, but he never answered. He preferred to live in by himself
alone. But now anymore, Cloud had changed. To signify this we see Clouds phone hit the bottom of the lake and diethe death of his lonely attitude and the beginning of the Cloud that was going to move on, going to move past his fear of failure and overcome his sin. There are also some very useful words from Aerith
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Topic | ~*~ The 50 most influential users in Board 8 History ~*~ (part 2) |
Xcarvengerx 01/07/12 4:05:00 AM #112 |
[Two Years Later
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Lifestream
The flow that governs the life of the worlds. It is the source of all the worlds and all life on those planets. The Shinra Company found a way to take the Lifestream and use it as a resource. Because of that, we were able to lead rich and plentiful lives. But that wore away at the life of the Planet. There were a lot of people who thought Shinra tried to use force against those who stood in opposition.
Shinra had as special force called SOLDIER. They were the ones, who long ago, took the falling calamity from the sky to destroy the worldJenovaand buried her. There was one among them named Sephiroth, who was an excellent SOLDIER. But when he found out he had been born in a horrifying experiment he came to hate Shinra
and then he finally came to hate everythingShinra and those who stood against them. Sephiroth, whose hate for the world was so great that he tried to destroy the world and those who tried to stop him.
There were many battles. There was sadness in the sheer number of battlesone who I loved also became apart of the Lifestream. And then one day
a fated day
the worlds power itself stopped all of the battles. The world used the Lifestream as a weapon. The Lifestream, gushing out all over the world, took battles, ambition, and sadness
it took everything and swallowed it up. In exchange, everything stopped. These things
they happened two years ago
but the world seems to have been much, much angrier than anyone believed. The Geostigma
In the two years that have passed, Cloud Strifethe former savior of the Planethas gone into solitude. He stopped contact with his friends and eventually stopped visiting them, even Tifa, all together. One might wonder why it is that Cloud decided to separate himself from everyone else. But over the course of those two years, Cloud had lost his strength
that feeling he had in the last battle against Sephiroth had vanished. He felt that he could not save anyonethe lingering thoughts of Aerith still troubling his mindand that he would become a failure if had attempted to do anything. In order to prevent his largest fear, he stopped communication with everyone. Not only does he live with his sin but he has also contracted the fatal, and incurable, Geostigma virus that is currently infesting the Planet. Cloud Strife, the man who had overcome all the odds just two years ago, was in one of the worst positions of his life
he was dying.
As Advent Children begins, we can see that Cloud has received a call from Tifa, but he did not answer the phone. Instead, he only hears it through the voice mail of his cellphone. Tifa had told him that Reno had wanted to talk to him in the Healin Lodge for an unknown reason. Cloud decides to head toward the Lodge to see what it is that Reno wants, but three silver-haired men who are unknown to himKadaj, Loz, and Yazoomanaged to encounter him. Taking on both Yazoo and Loz at the same time, a motorcycle chase rages across the barren land near Midgar. Cloud, despite the Geostigma bringing him down and his unwillingness to fight, manages to hold both of them off long enough for Kadaj to call off the attack, but not before taking a fair beating himself. Being rather shocked by these recent actions, Cloud heads toward the Healin Lodge.
Upon his arrival, he is met by Reno, who tries to attack him but ends up locked outside, along with Rude, who also tries to attack him. Cloud, however, points his sword directly at the throat of Rude forcing him to back down. Suddenly, a man in a white cloak and wheelchair comes into the room. Cloud realizes immediately who it is
Rufus Shinra. Rufus talks about him looking into the aftereffects of Sephiroths influence and also give a brief description of Kadajs crew. The main reason that Cloud had been summoned here was to be asked to assist them in rebuilding the world and preventing Kadajs group from reaching their goal. However, Cloud has no interest in such things and leaves quickly.
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Topic | ~*~ The 50 most influential users in Board 8 History ~*~ (part 2) |
Xcarvengerx 01/07/12 4:05:00 AM #111 |
Before the final battle, Cloud gavewhat is to me, the greatest speech given by a characteran amazing talk to his comrades
Cloud: What are we all fighting for? I want us all to understand that. Save the planet... for the future of the planet... Sure, that's all fine. But really, is that really how it is? For me, this is a personal feud. I want to beat Sephiroth. And settle my past. Saving the planet just happens to be part of that. I've been thinking. I think we all are fighting for ourselves. For ourselves... and that someone... something... what ever it is, that's important to us. That's what we're fighting for. That's why we keep up this battle for the planet.
I know why I'm fighting. I'm fighting to save the planet, and that's that. But besides that, There's something personal too... A very personal memory that I have. What about you all? I want all of you to find that something within yourselves. If you don't find it, then that's okay too. You can't fight without a reason, right? So, I won't hold it against you if you don't come back.
......Aerith. She was smiling to the end. We have to do something, or that smile will just freeze like that. Let's go all together. Memories of Aerith... ...Although she should've returned to the planet by now, something stopped her and now she's stuck...... We've got to let go of Aerith's memory.
I was really touched by these statements from Cloud. He had made such an amazing progression from having no confidence, a constant feeling of fear, to someone who was ready to take on Sephiroth and bring peace to the world. He once never cared for the Planet, but now he was the hero who was fighting to save it. Throughout the course of Final Fantasy VII there was no character that could come close to touching Clouds development and complexity; this very statement still holds true today, perhaps even moreso. From here, Cloud would go on to face Sephiroth, along with his friends, in one final battle for the Planet. He knew what he was fighting more and he knew the goal he had to complete. Despite the high probability of failure, Cloud was unwavering in his confidence to overcome this task. He had optimism and strength that he had lacked before. This very strength that would propel him to defeat Sephiroth and set things straight in the world. This
this was Cloud Strife.
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Topic | ~*~ The 50 most influential users in Board 8 History ~*~ (part 2) |
Xcarvengerx 01/07/12 4:04:00 AM #107 |
When he tries to fully piece everything back together, things become jumbled up and mixed. He thinks he is Zack, but purposely. It only makes logical sense that Cloud would assume he was a SOLDIER First Class. He has the mako infused eyes, he recalls the incident in Nibelheim, he recalls setting out to become a SOLDIER, and hes wearing the uniform of SOLDIER. Everything pieces together for someone in Clouds state thinking it was all him. Its clear that he doesnt start to fully regain awareness until hes already in Midgar. Theres no way for him to remember Zack the person, as he wasnt aware of his death.
When Cloud arrives in Midgar, he is hired for a job by AVALANCHEan eco-terrorist organization out to stop Midgar from killing the Planet. Due to Clouds complete indifference toward both sides, he joins up with AVALANCHE in order to gather his pay. At the beginning, Cloud is quite cold, saying that hes only in this for the money and he couldnt care less about what happens to the Planet. This matches up quite nicely with his childhood, with Tifa and her friends. And the criticism that this is where Cloud matches up with Zack is quite unfounded. Zacks personality was nearly the complete opposite of thisa lighthearted, kind, caring, talkative fellow. After completing the mission, the group, along with Cloud, head back to Sector 7 to visit Tifa back at her Seventh Heaven bar. It is here that Cloud finally gets to meet back up with Tifa, who had not seen since the Nibelheim incident five years ago. The two share some memories of Cloud promising to always be her hero in her time of peril and even though Cloud was only signed on for one mission, Tifa persuades him to stay for at least one more.
Tifa: Whenever Im in trouble, my hero will come and rescue me. I want to at least experience that once.
Cloud: What?
Tifa: Come on!! Promise me!
Cloud: All right...... I promise.
After destroying the Sector 5 Reactor, Cloud met up with a young woman by the name of Aerith Gainsborough in a church. He had landed on her flowers, which broke his fall, but she greeted him as if nothing had happened. From the get go, there was something about Aerith that Cloud was just mesmerized by. The more they spent together, the more Cloud became attached, but that would not last, unfortunately. Their time together, going through this quest, was brought to an abrupt end when Aerith decided to run away and save the Planet on her own by summoning Holy. She ran to the City of the Ancients, but in a dream-like sequence, Cloud had seen her heading toward there. He also saw Sephiroth, who said that Aerith was becoming a problem that needed to be dealt with. When Cloud had awoken, he was actually reluctant to save her. Why? Because he had given up the Black Materia to Sephiroth before, he was losing the ability to control his body whenever he got near Sephiroth. Many people like to blame this on Clouds weak mind, but that is most certainly not the case at all. As we know, Cloud was injected with an abundance of Jenova Cells, but the experiment was NEVER completed.
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Topic | ~*~ The 50 most influential users in Board 8 History ~*~ (part 2) |
Xcarvengerx 01/07/12 4:04:00 AM #106 |
Zack: Oh, here!! Put on this. It smells a little though; dont complain. You look pretty good with that. Well
Zack: Yo! Old guy! We at Midgar yet?
Driver: Shaddup! Youre lucky I even gave you a ride!
Zack: Whatre you gonna do when we get to Midgar?
Cloud:
Zack: I got a place I can crash for a while. No wait, the mother lives there to... Guess thats out
Cloud:
Zack: Yep
gotta change my plans! Hmm
No matter what I do, I need some money first
hey, wanna start a business? But what could we do? Hey, Cloud. Think there's anything I'd be good at?
Zack: Hey, old guy. What do you think Id be good at?
Driver: Whatre you yappin about? You're still young aint ya? Young folks should try everything! You gotta pay your debts while youre still young. Go out and look for what you really want.
Zack: Try everything...Thats easy for him to say... HEY! Of course! I got a lotta brains, a skill that other guys dont. That settles it! Im gonna become a mercenary! Yeah! Thanks, Pops!
Driver: Hey
didn't you even hear a word I said?
Zack: Listen, Im gonna become a mercenary and thats that. Boring stuff, dangerous stuff, anything for money. Im gonna be rich! So Cloud. What are you gonna do?
Driver: No, wait
you got it all wrong.
Cloud: Uuhhh
Zack: Just kidding... I wont leave you hanging like that. Were friends right? Mercenaries Cloud, thats what you an me are gonna be. Understand Cloud?
We can see here that Cloud got the idea to become a mercenary from Zack, but hes clearly still suffering from the increased exposure to Jenova Cellshes incomplete in a sense, hes got his own cells and then he has the Jenova Cells, which is not mixing well, the fact that hes alive this long is an accomplishment in itself. When they finally arrive at Midgar, they are found on top of a hill overlooking the huge city. Zack quickly notices that Shinra has caught up to them and decides to lay Cloud down on the ground. He grabs his Buster Sword and takes on wave and wave of Shinra MPs. While going back to make sure Cloud is safe he is shot in the back. From there, he is shot multiple times from point blank and dies there, beside his friend Cloud. The Shinra soldiers see that Cloud is not a threat due to him going in and out of consciousnessthe expectation is that he would die soon enough anywayand decides to leave him there.
Escapee report no.3 Concerning their disposal. A - Shot for resisting. B - Escaped during A's resistance.
Escapee report no.4 Other. B's whereabouts is currently unknown. But, we submit there is no need to pursue him, due to his diminishing consciousness. Awaiting further instructions.
You can see from the continued logging in the Shinra Basement that they had eliminated Subject A (Zack) while leaving Subject B (Cloud) there due to his diminishing consciousness. After this incident, we are at the very beginning of Final Fantasy VII. But, first there is a serious criticism that needs to be addressed here. Often times, a major flaw people point out is that Cloud stole Zacks personality in order to make himself look better, but that is not the truth at all. Cloud never stole Zacks personality, at least not intentionally. When we see Cloud finally regain the ability to move on his own and something of consciousness, he gathers Zacks Buster Sword and begins to head toward the city of Midgar. Due to his incapacitated state, he cannot accurately recall everything that had happened. Its obvious that he recalls the incident during Nibelheim, escaping with Zack, and then hearing Zacks stories of becoming a mercenaryhes even wearing the uniform of a SOLDIER, the very same that Zack wore.
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