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I tried to argue there was no BP
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Okay the fact that the Serial Killer chat was the same length as the Mason and scum chat was pretty funny
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wallmasterz posted...
Glad (most) everyone had fun. Also, town and scum have split so far this year, town won this and Simpsons, scum won Valentines Day and choose your own flavor
I didnt play those two so they are not canon
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Enchantress posted...
If B8 towns thought winning was fun they'd do it more than twice a year

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Wait is this place getting taken down? Has Chris finally found a way to win? lol
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Knightz clothes did nothing right? I agree with Player of the Game Award LOL
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That's a joke. Not body guarding was incredibly selfish and I have no regrets
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
Hell yeah

And I wasn't actually Mr. Shark, but I feel like it has always been Rex's dream to pretend to be Mr. Shark so I rolled with it.

Wow you have one job as town, to play your flavor. And you didn't!

RUDE
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Plot twist: Knightz was Chris but town
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Good job team!
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To prolong her misery. Why kill scum when you can make them suffer
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To be fair I also started the day saying Lea and Death
;0;

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I've said what I wanted to. Just remember me if I die. That is all.

##Marry FD
##Kill Lea
##Fuck Death

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UltimaterializerX posted...
Why does scum Lea ever claim BP?
Because no protection for town at all existed, so it was a prime moment to claim confirmed town who can never be killed. Remember I kept my role a secret until after she claimed. Also it would probably be her real role which adds some bias to what scum wants to claim. They just love claiming their real role

And let's be honest vanilla Lea gets lynched today 11 times out of 10
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You do imply you think death is town though, no? That is the way your post read
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I'd probably shoot Lea if i could but i don't think it's strong enough of a feeling that it's worth convincing the whole game to stray from the path. We should still take Death out of all the remaining players.
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Unfortunately for our chances of Death being the last scum..... I don't feel like he wants the game to end while he is asleep >_>

He's done it before where if he's going to bed with that many votes he just tells us he's scum so the game can end when he's still awake, right? So he's either town or there's more than one scum left.

....or is that exactly what he wants us to think!?
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And if anyone rebuttals saying why wouldn't scum want to drive the lynch, I do not think it is a scum move to put yourself out there as driving mislynch 1/3. Its too early for that, you'll just become target 2/3

...so lets get ahead of that and not Lynch FD tomorrow. Weird thing to say, but that's my feeling.
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I do really like FD today though. If there is one scum left, and they need 3 mislynches to win, then I dont think he should ever be considered possible scum going forward. I would even kill Sbell before FD. Here's why

We know that the last scum is very dubious and in a relatively safe position as long as they don't become the one lynched for like, 3 days. The way you have to do that is by laying low, but not too low, and keeping options open. I feel FD has taken a clear leadership role over the last 48 hours. I do not expect the final scum in this group to do that. FD has also been the most adamant about shutting down illogical paths, and talking down the confirmed town from doing crazy things. He talked Ulti down from lynching Knights and Knights down from lynching Ulti. If you are the last scum you need those golden opportunities,.

I also like how FD treats Knightz. Wants him to make the smartest possible play and not be a puppet for FD. This reads as very towny to me.
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I dont get the same kind of "Town angst" vibes from Lea though saying that this game was already lost since the start of day 2. It gives me SCUM LEA vibes tbh. The more cynical the more scum ):<

Anyway, you deal with it tomorrow. I will vote Death today
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
if you want to claim scum then by all means, we can lynch you.

But you didn't immediately break when Ben counterclaimed BP, and you came damn close to dying then. It was a good exchange for both you and Ben in my opinion and part of what will make it very difficult if it's exactly 1 of you in a final 3 situation.

But hopefully the scum of you would do me the honor of killing me and it will be SEP
Yeah thats the best thing going for lea at the moment. I kind of expected she would give us the "GG" if she was scum, unless they knew I wasnt bulletproof ahead of time or something.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
How is Knight confirmed?
He posted in the sign ups topic after the game started a question that could have been asked on scum board. There ya go
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I think you have a point, but SK killing mafia was also a possibility so it makes balancing weird. Any kill prevention at all on town's side could be overkill. I think it makes 100% sense that SCUM has a BP
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If there are two scum then its also Lea and Death so there's that too.
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Maybe Lea is town but what about Enchantress?

I do agree with and will honor FD's request that Lea is off the table for lynching today.

I caught up and tried to erase all preconceptions and former reads and only use new information from today to find the last scum. Ulti is right in that everyone alive has some good things going for them. I think the purest town are... (Besides Knightz and Ulti who are CONFIRMED town)

Forceful_Dragon posted...
As a group you have broken me this game. I'm just a town screaming into the endless void of chaos that is bombarding me from nearly every direction.


Obellisk posted...
you must understand I need you to be scum and I need to be right

I fucking need it man. things are rough. give me a win here.
I like the pure town angst displayed by these two in these two posts. I read it as very genuine.

That leaves us exactly right where we started....Lea and Death. If I am dead tomorrow, and game doesn't end today, I'd ask you to please kill the other tomorrow.

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Work has been especially busy today and I'm a few pages behind. Keep up the conversation though. I'll catch up when I can
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I could spare Lea and kill Death. I'll hear the Sbell arguments but as you know with my theory I'm not as enthusiastic about it. I guess if there is just one scum left we should be able to lynch 3 people before the game ends.

I would just ask in a final 3 that you NEVER kill Knightz. Luckily I think we only have to worry about Ulti doing that....but still
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Asking what lea thought though
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Lea, if you are bulletproof then why did you ask Knightz for Clothing day 2?
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Enchantress posted...
, I will say that my true role is a bulletproof forcefield dog.
Thats the role name?
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What I meant by it is that I somewhat regret blowing my identity as bodyguard on trying to gambit you. Did not think of that consequence because I didnt think we had to worry about you being town. But here we are. >_>

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunny thing

I forgot they can roleblock me. I'll try my best to die going forward

Shindig

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Forceful_Dragon posted...
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You deserve to be lynched in this is true

I don't care how much you value being alive at end game. Ulti has been 100% confirmed town Mason since day 2 began and Corrik has been 99.92% confirmed town vig since he shot godfather and we found out about SK.

It is your fucking duty to put a block on confirmed town that scum NEEDS to kill so your unconfirmed ass dies instead.

BUT if you are telling the truth then it theoretically means Ulti should survive tonight, but I'm legitimately pissed off
Before you get pissed, consider this.

My plan was to position myself as a mislynch that scum needs and use it as close to end game as possible, preferably before final 4 or 3 even, and hopefully secure victory. I WISH I had saved Kirby, but I did not know that his role was as important as it was on night 1. Since that failure to commit night 1, I've been so embarrassed I've just been not using it until the moment is right.
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And no I did not attempt to bodyguard anyone each night so far. Very selfish of me I know. Was always planning to claim vanilla and hold my ability unless i was in the mislynch pool, then id have used it at the last possible night to take myself out and help town solve the game. I will use it tonight and die if no one believes me.
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##Unvote

Okay confession I'm actually BODYGUARD not bulletproof. So it doesn't 100% prove Lea is scum but it's pretty close and I wanted to see if she would just give up. This isn't a full give up so I will give her a chance so we can talk about a world where she exists and she's not the scum bulletproof roleblocker that we're pretty sure they have
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I am Rocky Gilbraltr, TOWN Bulletproof. I'm already voting for Lea. Wrap it up. At your lesiure
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Enchantress posted...
now that everyone has claimed so there's no possibility of trapping scum with a counter claim,
are you sure about that

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Red did do a good job acting like a dead person
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I guess the claims dont change anything except make me think maybe the clothes DO do something protection-wise. But I cant imagine what, because if they're just bullet proof vests then that's just a doctor. Or there's just no protection to help scum team out with the alternating night kills. That makes the most sense.

##Vote: Lea

Still think remaining scum exists in Lea or Death.

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I'm actually not sure where you lost the plot on Lea being scum, Ulti. Your post convinced me more than you convinced yourself seemingly!

Personally i think Knightz is so glaringly town that I havent even felt a need to reiterate it all game
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UltimaterializerX posted...
So if mafia cant kill nightly, this supposed clothing has even less of a point because the game makes sense having no protection in it. Which means its INCREDIBLY weird Corrik was killed before me. Im more confirmed than him and Im more active a player. aka, the scum looked at the confirmed and let live the one who was more likely to get it wrong (hi).

Sultan cohosted and useless t shirt vendor is exactly the kind of nonsense Sultan would write up as a scum fake claim if Wall was busy with irl family stuff. Yeah Im using cohost meta. Deal with it.
And who was Corrik trying to kill yesterday even over Red? Lea
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The less stretch of an answer would be that the clothes do nothing, which instantly skyrocket Knightz' claim to an accidental 5-head play, so I am excited for that potential reveal.
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Obellisk posted...
FD would my clIm change anything for anyone at this point?

let's say I claimed power, how does that evolve your reads?
It probably won't change much much my read of you but I am ready for it to put the entire game setup into perspective
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Enchantress posted...
I don't wanna, people will yell at me
What's this about
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Enchantress posted...
I really wouldn't want to have to go through an entire final three like that. You don't even get bussing credit when the entire game thinks the busee is scum. I like to think I could sway such a dead game better than that.

Could you elaborate on which post this was responding to? I couldn't follow. You say if you were scum you wouldn't have pushed as hard for Red?
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htaeD posted...
I forget. Did Ctes mention it?
He said he did not know and was not told, only told that he would get the nightly kill if scum team all died
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As for Knightz, there are so many posts of his that town clear him for me I haven't even mentioned them because it seemed overkill. For something more concrete, he drew the scum's roleblock day 1 and prevented them from blocking your cop scan. That's pretty big
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