If only the democrats were as well run as labour and spd.Don't know if you haven't noticed, but Labour is currently getting roasted due to being Torie-lite in policy and the Online Safety Act.
Galaxy brain move would be for Rs to actually pass the ACA bills in senate and house AND Trump actually signs it.Except the Democrats would get the credit for the ACA bills passing, since that's exactly what they wanted out of this shutdown. Would be easy to frame it as him capitulating to them and that the pressure during the shutdown worked after all.
Trump gets to claim credit for keeping low healthplan prices.
Midterms become a tossup.
Schumer and all the other weak Democrats stick around well past 2030.
Democrats will happily capitulate to Republicans again, but with MUCH higher stakes (regarding 3rd Trump term or something)
The Democrats now own this shutdown whether they want to or not.The Republicans started this shutdown in the first place, as they refused to accept a deal with the Democrats back then to stop it. They clearly only accepted one now as they were getting desperate for it to end after it visibly started backfiring on them, otherwise they would of told them to kick rocks like they did back then.
What were you making people suffer for all this time? Absolutely nothing. May as well have just voted for this immediately.
Because King went onto cnn and said 'we had to reopen the government'King isn't even a Democrat. He's an Independent.
As in we the democratic caucus. As in we had the power to open it up the entire time. Do I still 100% blame republicans? Yes of course, their evil is not surprising nor knows bounds. But one of the people switching sides literally is making ownership because reasons.
Tbh I am very glad that after many years I have finally gotten good answers and solutions for my mental health problems so when I crash out I know it is just me crashing out for not problematic things.So you'd rather things not have a chance to get better at all than vote for things to possibly get better?
Republicans are on the whole more evil but the people who were ok with this are just as bad. This is going to kill at least hundreds of thousands of people. At least. All for tax cuts for the rich btw. There are plenty of democratic senators who hate this and plenty of house members who hate this so I am not painting every democrat with a brush but I would rather have a republican in the senate than any of these mother fuckers because at least then I dont waste my hope. I just go back to dragon quest
"Standing up to Donald Trump didn't work. It actually gave him more power."You say that as if last Tuesday didn't happen.
Okay I have tried to be really chill but this might end up killing me someday or shortening my life so im going scorched earth with my presence in this world to burn down every vote blue no matter who person ever. Your way has been tried. It has failed.
Uh I'm a 3rd party voter and if you're really 14 I've been doing it since before you were alive. I advocate the power of voting harder than most anyone else ITT. And I advocate the power of 3rd party voting and even non-voting (in a 2 party system) as a check on shitty incumbents like the current Democrats.I've been on this site since 2006. I'm in my thirties.
You can see other lifelong Democrats here actually dooming and giving up. That will never be me because I'm not a Democrat. I haven't been trained by the establishment to either vote D or give up. That's where dooming comes from: The establishment who is terrified that you'll take your vote elsewhere, and would rather you silence yourself.
In this case I'm clearly advocating to primary all these colluding senators. That requires many many votes.
what exactly is this bigger picture that somehow makes this less bad?Well, here's one, the Epstein Files are about to be voted on in the House: https://www.azfamily.com/2025/11/10/arizona-rep-elect-grijalva-be-sworn-this-week-sources-say/
Are you telling me that you're pleased with the way the shutdown appears to be ending?Fuck no I'm not pleased and would of preferred they held out, but I can see the bigger picture and know spreading doom over this will just make things worse.
Or are you telling me that we're allowed to be unhappy about it, but we're not allowed to express that unhappiness?
Because, imo, "holding firm" for 40+ days only to make an agreement that seems unlikely to actually change anything was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do and I'm pretty mad about it.
It means I'm going to get my multiple weeks of back pay sooner rather than later, but I'm still mad about it. The increased health care premiums won't even directly affect me, but I'm still mad about it.
Next year people many people are going to either lose their health insurance or they will struggle very much to pay the new rates.
Some of those people will get sick at some point and choose not to see a doctor as a result.
Some of those people will die when they otherwise would not have.
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I won't be voting Republican any time soon, but if this is the best the Democrats are capable of then I have to hope that I will have a candidate better than a Democrat available to vote for.
No one is, because it literally wasn't. Youngkin gave out 90% of SNAP payouts between this and last week. And Thanksgiving air travel is not essential.You say that as if Trumpism won't keeping doing stuff that'll cause a popular turn against them. All you are doing by shouting this garbage is turning it into a self-fulfilling prophecy, because doomers like you disencourage people from voting.
You will spend the next 12 months yelling at people to believe you that everyone was going to die if the Ds held on for 2 more weeks, and how you majestically saved everyone, and everyone will rightly see you as a yet another shrieking liberal clown.
You simply stopped any chance of an actual popular turn against Trumpism. Democrats voted to raise healthcare costs by 3x more than SNAP. That was you.
Yes. Democrats needed to weather the storm to prevent a permanent apocalypse.It stops people relying on SNAP from starving to death and air travel from ceasing. You are not looking at how bad things were actually becoming. Also, if the GOP votes against the ACA or doesn't hold the vote for it next month, it puts the blame squarely on the GOP for taking away people's healthcare.
What did they gain by caving exactly? They just won the offyear elections bigly while the GOP took the blame. You think the Republicsns would let the government stay shut down until 2026? And if they did, how do you think those elections would go?
Republicans used every government tool available to them to commit crimes and literally accuse the Dems of the shutdown on Federal websites, and STILL the polls were blaming the GOP and they massively lost the election.And WHO will get the blame for shooting down the vote, if your prediction is correct? That's right, the GOP.
The Dems caved in exchange for a vote that will get shot down and basically raised their hands to say yeah it was us holding it up, actually
I don't think anybody here is going to suddenly stop voting because of this, given who's in power. Doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a lot of justified bitching an moaning.Mamdami getting elected to the mayor of New York I believe is the start of the Democrat's own Tea Party Movement.
The left needs it's own tea party moment. Hopefully we see the start of that beginning to rise up. I do think Maine is going to be a critical race to eyeball for this.
Also there's no sense berating someone for feeling disillusioned or upset after something like this happens. It doesn't matter that we've been conditioned to expect things like this.What I'm getting at is that giving up over ONE setback and not even trying to throw the assholes that forced us into this situation in the first place out is foolish, especially after what happened earlier last week. If you don't hold your nose and vote Blue, the Reds will keep throwing the US into Morton's Fork situations like this.
Sent an email to my Senator, Tammy Baldwin today. I know nothing will come from it but I literally feel broken today and needed to get my thoughts in writing to try to work through things myself. Copying it here because why not.The eight people who voted for this, excluding Dick Durban, are not up for reelection until 2028. It was only seven Democrats, plus Angus King who is an Independent, and the rest of the party, including Schumer, are chewing them out for this. Keep voting for Democrats. You are a fucking moron if you let this ONE mistake that wasn't even most of the party's fault stop you from voting to kick out the guys who are responsible for taking away the health care in the first place. Also, you aren't considering what the consequences of SNAP funding failing and the loss of freedom of travel due to ATC shortage would have been.
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Good morning.
I know the odds are low that you yourself will be the one to read it and even lower that I get a response. But after the vote to reopen the government last night I have been in a weird headspace. I need to get my thoughts out there to someone and I hope just the act of doing this will help me feel better.
My name is Steve. I live in Madison, WI with my husband and our son. I have been a lifelong Democratic voter. I have voted in every election I can since the moment I turned 18. I have voted blue no matter who in local, state and federal elections. I have volunteered with the Democratic Party to canvas and make phone calls in 2016, 2020 and 2024 - in fact, I met you in 2024 when you came to greet canvasers in Madison one morning. I truly believe that the Republican party is causing harm to our country, Trump most of all. I need the Democratic party to fight for the rights of all people. And that did not happen last night.
I know that you voted the correct way last night in the fight against the Republicans, but I am beyond dissapointed with your colleagues. And I do not believe that this was done with just the approval of the 8 Democrats who voted yes. I truly believe that there were more than 60 votes available in the Senate and the party was just picking those who would be able to weather the fallout the most.
I'm not even angry, like I was in March when Schumer and some other Senators broke from the party to keep the government open then. This time, I am just numb. I feel shattered. This whole fight was for nothing. Nothing was accomplished. Nothing was gained. And worse - the party just signaled to Trump and Johnson that we will back down from all future fights. That there is no reason to try to negotiate with us moving forward - because we will cave. Just like we always cave.
It truly has me left wondering... why should I bother? Why should I vote for Democrats moving forward when they will do literally nothing to help? When they will just bow down to Trump and give him whatever he wants without a fight? If Democrats will vote for Trump's agenda... then why should I bother voting for them? Bother voting against the Republicans? My choices don't matter if Democrats will not FIGHT when it matters. People's lives are going to get worse based on the vote from last night when healthcare premiums jump for those on the ACA. I am not one of those people. It will have no impact on my life. But I still have become completely disillusioned with the process.
For 20 years, I have been a proud Democratic supporter in every single election.
I literally do not know what I am going to do in the future.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/ba663799.jpgIt's the Daily Fail. No surprise here if you know anything about them.
Lmfao Trump just pardoned George Santos.I misread that as George Soros, and was wondering why the rotten orange would pardon him when he and his base hate him.
Who was asking for this? Not even MAGA cared about this dude.
Might be a repost but...How much is this costing them? Because they aren't getting paid for this during the shutdown.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/10/03/chicago-area-immigration-raids-dhs/86497161007/
Literally using Black Hawk helicopters to rappel to apartment buildings...in Chicago.
Speaker Johnson stated that even should the Senate come to some bipartisan deal on the shutdown, he will deny it a vote in the House and will only allow the House bill to go through. Then he sent the House on vacation through at least October 14th.So does this mean that big tech/gaming CEO meeting that was suppose to be next week is not happening anymore?
Aside from just further blowing up their attempts to stick the shutdown on the Dems by just taking ownership like that it also means that the House is still refusing to swear in the newly-elected Dem who happens to represent the decisive 218th vote on releasing the Epstein Files and it seems, at least for now, the Democrats have managed to grab hold of that message across the spectrum. AOC to Schumer, and even the official Dem Twitter account all hammering on it.
https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3m2ctric3pk2l
https://bsky.app/profile/schumer.senate.gov/post/3m2cvkq4hsc2d
Alright, I gotta ask: Don't Fear the Reaper? Godzilla?Don't Fear the Reaper.
Edit: Yeah, that.Yeah, over a vague comment about the reaction to CK's death, as well as clips of the show itself.
Let me get this straight though. He's calling for a boycott of Netflix over comments by the director of a show that got one season and was cancelled?
then i suppose there will be some finger pointing to determine who exactly violated the hatch act, but someone or several someones certainly did.I mean, if OMB is mandating it, it's obviously Russell Vought.
no doomposting guyzThe majority of the military fucking hate that speech pumpkinhead and beerface made.
Ok, so, if it's not going to succeed, why is he being indicted at all?Because the mango menace is a bully and likes picking fights.
This was pretty much released, repurposed as Star Fox Adventures.The final game we got is very heavily cut down in comparison, and the story and tone are very different as well. The changes are enough that I think it qualifies for this, though I will put Sonic X-Treme in it's spot if it doesn't.