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FFDragon posted...
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5245029-social-security-administration-social-platform-x-releases/

what in the actual fuck is this
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/tech/trump-electronics-china-tariffs/index.html

Trump just backed down further on tariffs and exempted a ton of electronics (chips, phones, monitors, etc.)

but not the Switch 2 so nintendo still catching strays
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He cant make up his mind!
Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders?
I mean, the evidence we have suggests that the bond market and yields continuing to go up legitimately rattled him and is causing him to backpedal but who even knows any more - it's also possible Big Tech handed him enough money under the table in recent days.
May you find your book in this place.
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I hear the ports havent even been collecting the tariffs either. The entire thing has been a clown show from day 1 by the worlds worst negotiator and conman
Weren't chips the successful tariff from Biden?

Does this cancel that tariff as well?
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https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-is-annoying-unfunny-and-should-probably-take-a-drug-test-trump-officials-reportedly-say-2000587948

lol
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foolm0r0n posted...
You realize the flaw in this strategy right

no?

I make enough from 40 hours that I can just comfortably afford to pay all the necessary bills. My wife has an income as well teaching in a Special Education classroom, but it's not as much and we spend a portion of her income on wants and typically save the rest. So the savings builds up fairly quickly, between buying a car 2 years ago and the down payment 2 months ago we've all but cleaned it out for the moment. Our ideal monthly budget will involve continuing to save a sizeable chunk of her income while my income covers the rest.

my take home has essentially been temporarily doubled these past 8-9 weeks over working overtime which is 8-9 weeks of extra bills that I'll be able to cover if I get RIF'd. Because the customer service employees seem poised to get RIF'd later in the process than other IRS departments it's likely I won't know until mid to late May so that's at least another month at this pace, but it's money I can't afford to leave on the table. Once the RIF is done I can go back to weighing the usefulness of the extra $ against the physical, mental and personal stress caused by working twice as much.

Unless the point you were getting as is that they won't want to keep me if I'm not working overtime? But that's an area where govt jobs do not resemble the private sector. You hear about offices and CEOs who say they need all their employees to be putting in those crazy hours to show their "dedication to the job", but in govt they couldn't give two shits about who is working the OT and who isn't. Every couple weeks they post a list of how much OT you're allowed to work if you want to and which positions/departments have it available and you either work it, or you don't. If anything by choosing to work it you are simply costing more money to do the same work that someone else could be assigned to do as part of a regular shift. If they have 4000 hours of overtime being worked each week they would save a lot of money each week by having 100 extra employees being paid regular work rates versus paying 50% more for those same hours of effort.
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SaveEstelle posted...
https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-is-annoying-unfunny-and-should-probably-take-a-drug-test-trump-officials-reportedly-say-2000587948

lol
Jocks hate nerds, always. Money changes nothing. He'll never be happy.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
Unless the point you were getting as is that they won't want to keep me if I'm not working overtime?
Not necessarily. Rather that they are using fear to motivate you to work OT now, so they will continue to do that as long as possible. You won't ever feel safe in your job again.

This is perfectly intentional as fascism requires workers who are intense and fear driven, not unlike the military. They don't want individualists and they don't want the "comfortable safe job" people, even if they could save 50% on the OT pay. (Remember, reducing budget is not a concern in the slightest)

In the long term, if they give you a ton of OT $ and maybe even a promotion over the next couple years, letting you buy a big house and upgrade your life, maybe you might end up feeling a bit grateful to the fascists after all.
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No chance of that. Just want a simple existence and I have nothing but negative feelings towards them as a result of (A) making me go back to the office for no damn reason and (B) forcing me into this shitty situation where I'm overworking myself for months on end until I know what's going to happen next.

There is absolutely no chance of generating loyalty or gratitude from these actions and I don't think my experience is particularly unique.

Unless they end the hiring/promotion freeze and specifically add loyalists to the govt workforce they are not tipping the scales of govt employee opinions in their favor.
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-smartphones-electronics-laptops-apple-10c31e91d7790bfe8fb004f547109359

no one knows anything
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How agreeable do you guys find the observation that Trump is the only president since Bill Clinton to govern in a notably different way from him?
Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders?
None of your YouTube regurgitation of "sloppyasparagus" or "elonsballmusk" is ever agreeable
If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
#theresafreakingghostafterus
ew YouTube
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Agreed
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Pretty funny how they only thought to try this in 2025 and not like, 2015. "Paid for by Bernie 2020" lol too little too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRaCL-IEShA
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/business/china-rare-earths-exports.html

China Halts Critical Exports as Trade War Intensifies
Beijing has suspended exports of certain rare earth minerals and magnets that are crucial for the worlds car, semiconductor and aerospace industries.

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A long read, but a good one.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/apr/13/end-times-fascism-far-right-trump-musk

[W]e are up against an ideology that has given up not only on the premise and promise of liberal democracy but on the livability of our shared world on its beauty, on its people, on our children, on other species. The forces we are up against have made peace with mass death. They are treasonous to this world and its human and non-human inhabitants.
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To have a hope of combating the end times fascists, with their ever-constricting and asphyxiating concentric circles of ordered love, we will need to build an unruly open-hearted movement of the Earth-loving faithful: faithful to this planet, its people, its creatures and to the possibility of a livable future for us all. Faithful to here.
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1911813948912918658?s=46
Congrats to azuarc , GotD2 Guru champ!
It's a useless article since it doesn't acknowledge the degrowth movement that has grown exponentially, especially among gen Z, and is the premier anti-social/misanthropic philosophy of the modern age. It's non-partisan, and it's a strong pipeline for liberals or moderates to enter to accelerationist fascism. Trump and Bannon and Vought want regular fascism, but that's been around in various weak forms for a long time. What's new and different is accelerationism, which has billionaires with combined trillions of wealth behind it. It appeals greatly to anyone 25 and under, in a way that is in a lot ways stronger than conservationism can ever be (hope for escape vs hope for healing).
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I am highly interested in seeing what the Supreme Court does about Trump's open defiance. The one thing I figure you can count on the court to do is to not make themselves useless.
Can't we give ourselves one more chance?
Trying my best. If I fail, let me know.
If they're anything like the other branch, they're more than happy to relieve themselves of power and responsibility if it gets them closer to their real goals
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PeaceFrog posted...
If they're anything like the other branch, they're more than happy to relieve themselves of power and responsibility if it gets them closer to their real goals

They aren't anything like the other branch, actually. At least they haven't been before. Their self-importance is often on display.

Guess we'll see.
Can't we give ourselves one more chance?
Trying my best. If I fail, let me know.
They do seems very weak and deferent to political pressure, but the newer judges are also young and have entire decades of the court ahead of them. They should be incentived to maximize their own power for that reason, but they don't seem to be. The behind-the-scenes pressures must be much stronger than they used to be.
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There was one correct statement in that
I don't know where else to put this but I feel so seen

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If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
#theresafreakingghostafterus
as you contribute to the world falling apart*

Absolutely failed generation
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Same line of thought when big business rolled out recycling campaigns on the individual.
Can't we give ourselves one more chance?
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SirChris posted...
I am highly interested in seeing what the Supreme Court does about Trump's open defiance. The one thing I figure you can count on the court to do is to not make themselves useless.

Unfortunately I kind of think they'll bend over backwards to avoid casting it as Trump defying their orders, because they don't have an enforcement mechanism if he does that. Andrew Jackson famously ignored the Supreme Court, and there wasn't anything they could do about it.

I would expect the district judge will come up with more specific directives than "effectuate" that the Trump administration will immediately appeal. Each time it gets up to SCOTUS they issue a clarification, which the Trump administration will immediately try to find ambiguities or loopholes in. Neither SCOTUS nor Trump want constitutional crisis, so both of them will say as long as they can that there's no conflict between them.
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foolm0r0n posted...
as you contribute to the world falling apart*
lmao what
Cupcake
foolm0r0n posted...
as you contribute to the world falling apart*

Absolutely failed generation

In basically every advanced democracy Millennials have consistently voted against the world falling apart options and have often simply been overruled by Boomers and Gen Xers picking the terrible ones. There are still almost no Millennial world leaders (and never of a G20 country) and the youngest serving world leader currently is still an older Millennial. We have had this discussion before it feels but I truly think your quarrel here is actually with Gen X. Millennials did nothing wrong!
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Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
To be fair, the oldest millennials are like 42/43. Just about the beginning of being a world leader perhaps.

Usually world leaders should be in their late 40s to early 60s. This era is skewing older than that even, probably because most countries are aging populations which is mostly due to social media addiction causing stagnation
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Hbthebattle posted...
https://bsky.app/profile/titonka.bsky.social/post/3lmrwi4hwvc2k
I thought I would have to listen closely but he repeats it multiple times and laughs so blatantly
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Boomers contributed to the world falling apart and the following generations being miserable
LightningStrikes posted...
We have had this discussion before it feels but I truly think your quarrel here is actually with Gen X
It's funny because Gen Z has a decent influence in modern society and politics and never complained that they were too young and powerless

Maybe Millennials are just late bloomers... should rename our generation to the Bloomers

Cupcake2006 posted...
lmao what
How old will you be when you stop being surprised that you need to take responsibility for yourself in order to get things done? 50? 60? Or will you write this on your gravestone too? (would be a pretty great gravestone tbh)
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Gen Z has had almost no influence at all so far. Ill give them the 2019 climate strikes but thats it and even that was split with Millennials. I mean dont forget, half of Gen Z are still teenagers. The fact is Boomers and Gen X are still the dominant forces in politics and it will still be years before that shifts, which is not the fault of Millennials themselves.
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
foolm0r0n posted...
How old will you be when you stop being surprised that you need to take responsibility for yourself in order to get things done? 50? 60? Or will you write this on your gravestone too? (would be a pretty great gravestone tbh)
My brother in christ what the fuck are you talking about
Cupcake
Anyway heres the generation of every current G20 leader:

Argentina - Gen X
Australia - Boomer
Brazil - Boomer
Canada - Gen X
China - Boomer
France - Gen X
Germany - Boomer
India - Boomer
Indonesia - Boomer
Italy - Gen X
Japan - Boomer
Mexico - Boomer (this one surprised me)
Russia - Boomer
Saudi Arabia - Silent (MBS is a millenial to be fair)
South Korea - Boomer
Turkey - Boomer
UK - Boomer
US - Boomer
EU - Boomer

Still predominantly boomers running the show.
I just decided to change this sig.
Blaaaaaaargh azuarc
We've been talking all year about all the Zoomers who are part of DOGE and Project 2025 and such. In a highly dismissive way of course, but that's what Millennials do best - dismiss those who are more effective, in order to feel better.

But yes I am mostly talking about older Millennial and younger X (young enough that they want to be called Millennial). The precise years are not so important, the point is that it's MY generation, and I am disappointed in all of us.
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Cupcake2006 posted...
My brother in christ what the fuck are you talking about
You will die before achieving anything in life
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