PunishedBen posted...
Not necessarily. There is enough room in the math that both lynches could have been pure. JC waited last minute to vote Ifrit and did it because he had to
JC waited last minute to vote me because my lynch didn't start gaining traction until the last minutes.
Lopen posted...
If he flips town I'll face the gallows bring it
Just remember he said this when I flip town.
Meow1000 posted...
Why was an SBell town flip so surprising? Why did he give off scum vibes to you when the majority of people townread him?
Not everyone has the same read. The way he almost derailed the JC lynch, especially after JC flipped roleblocker, him out and out calling Ben a 'traitor', not to mention him willing to take a trade between lynching Peaf, then lynching you the next day. When I asked him why he didn't say "Because I'm that sure Peaf is scum." he said because one of you had to be scum, and I just didn't see it. Not on day 1. Felt very scummy to me.
Meow1000 posted...
This is also a glorified rule of 3 post between Lopen/Ben/MZero. Lopen and Ben are at least explanatory from their late votes, but MZero feels like total filler that adds onto the people doubting him with no substance.
Yes, scum dayvigs can exist, but MZero shot someone you were claiming to haver scumread yourself. What is your read and argument on him?
My read is null on him. It wasn't a shot that was so bad I want to kill him, nor was it so good that I think he's confirmed town either. Also the whole 'rule of 3' thing is stupid when I haven't even flipped. I wasn't even putting Mzero at the top of my list there, just commenting that yes there are scum dayvigs. There have been for over a decade now. I remember agonizing over the decision to lynch a scum dayvig who shot scum. We ended up judging him by his play, which is how I think dayvigs should be treated.
UltimaterializerX posted...
Ill feel silly if Wall is scum but Im sticking with my read today. We simply have better options, and I particularly want to see if day one was a scum/scum finale.
Spoilers: It wasn't. But I'm fine being resolved today as long as people actually read my thoughts and start looking into Ben/Lopen when I flip. I can understand the argument that Scum would've bussed me if I was a lesser role. It's not what happened, but my flip should at least help steer things in the right direction. Because I really don't think that scum just let their RB get lynched without doing anything to try to save him. And Ben and Lopen were two that were trying to derail that lynch. Even before it gained much traction. With Ben going after Wallz and Red before settling on me. And then Lopen saying that my claim felt more 'safelist' without ever explaining why he thought that (especially when he implied he wasn't that familiar with the flavor). You also have the way Lopen claimed power, then backtracked it and said "Nope, actually I'm vanilla!" That looked incredibly off to me.
UltimaterializerX posted...
Ill take lynching an inactive player over Wall actually putting in effort, btw. Its day 2, no excuses.
It's literally thanksgiving. Ya'll might kill me in game for not showing up today, but my wife would kill me in real life if I didn't help her with thanksgiving dinner. But I'm going to be posting more of my thoughts so people can read them. They can wait until after I flip if they are afraid of 'oooo' wifom. But I hope they at least read them after I flip.