Spurs also got rid of Mourinho.
I get that the teams want more money and want to have more "hype" matches, but what's their rational for "we think fans will like this"?
I hope Americans continue to not care about the sport so that this venture falls apart.
Spurs also got rid of Mourinho.
I get that the teams want more money and want to have more "hype" matches, but what's their rational for "we think fans will like this"?
I hope Americans continue to not care about the sport so that this venture falls apart.Honestly, depending on how the situation develops, this probably could lead to a massive exodus of players/owners/coaches/etc from European Football to the US and possibly form a major international American soccer association that would try to compete with the Champions/Premier leagues if the right investors get involved.
Why is the Super League bad?
Why is the Super League bad?It locks the vast majority of teams out of ever making as much money as those teams regardless of how well they do. It also prevents those big teams from ever suffering a natural major decline (for example, Arsenal have been slowly trending worse and worse and are looking likely to be overtaken in terms of success by the likes of Leicester more and more regularly in future, and Man Utd, Milan, Tottenham and Arsenal haven't won their leagues in a decade). No matter what you do, you will almost certainly never win the new "biggest" competition, when teams like Leicester, Montpellier and Bordeaux have won in recent-ish memory despite being so much smaller. That fairytale story will no longer be possible.
and West Ham
Honestly, depending on how the situation develops, this probably could lead to a massive exodus of players/owners/coaches/etc from European Football to the US and possibly form a major international American soccer association that would try to compete with the Champions/Premier leagues if the right investors get involved.That's almost certainly not gonna happen for a long time. There's so many historically massive European clubs who won't join or won't be able to join the Super League, Europe cares far more about football than America, and if a player can't go to the Super League, they're far more likely to join a team like Valencia, Ajax or Marseille than go to America. America would need to actually start caring about the sport before it would happen on any large scale.
It kills the local game even more, and makes it so that local fans are shafted for the very richest who can afford to travel even further than they already can, and likely devalues the many local economies which rely a lot on football outside of these massive clubs. It further kills the working class aspect of football and makes being a supporter even more inaccessible to the majority of people.
what's their rational for "we think fans will like this"?They don't care that the fans hate it. The pandemic has shown they can play games without fans just fine and the Chinese market will continue to pay through the nose.
They don't care that the fans hate it. The pandemic has shown they can play games without fans just fine and the Chinese market will continue to pay through the nose.I understand that but I'm asking more with respect to the PR they're using to pretend.
No matter what you do, you will almost certainly never win the new "biggest" competition, when teams like Leicester, Montpellier and Bordeaux have won in recent-ish memory despite being so much smaller. That fairytale story will no longer be possible.I really think this is one of the best things that the current league has to it. The Leicester storyline a few years back brought coworkers of mine who previously didn't care at all about premier league into watching the games regularly.
They don't care about the PR hit
I hope all these teams are expelled from their national competitions: it'd be deserved.
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They don't care that the fans hate it. The pandemic has shown they can play games without fans just fine and the Chinese market will continue to pay through the nose.
I understand that but I'm asking more with respect to the PR they're using to pretend.
This too.It's been happening for years in the UK, particularly since the Prem came about and teams like Blackburn and Chelsea started buying their way to titles. The vast majority of these people don't have a clue about the sport and it's made all the more miserable by the fact a working class pasttime which is pretty much the biggest positive in life for a lot of communities is becoming even more financially motivated and exclusionary. It's made even more obnoxious by the fact a lot of these businesspeople below the top end of football aren't even making as much money as they could by working to improve these clubs. It's a hobby for them and they come in, sell off assets or ruin what's already in place, destroy pillars of the local community and lose money while doing so, before selling out to an equally corrupt businessperson in a few years. To use your Arsenal example, remember when they fired the dude in the goddamn dinosaur costume who'd been working for the club and with local kids for 20-odd years rather than finding some way of reducing 50k from their near half-million turnover? These people are just utter clowns.
These clubs, massive as they are, were started by poor and working class people FOR poor and working class people. It's ripping the hearts and souls out of the clubs for money. It's no longer Arsenal Football Club it's Arsenal Football Corporation.
I really think this is one of the best things that the current league has to it. The Leicester storyline a few years back brought coworkers of mine who previously didn't care at all about premier league into watching the games regularly.I think it's the best thing about sport in general. My team has, in my relatively short lifetime, gone from being in the third division, to being five minutes away from going into non-league and disappearing (may I add, due in part to corrupt business practices), before getting promoted in less than a decade from there to the very top division, beating two of the biggest clubs in the world twice in the same season, winning a major trophy and thrashing top European teams, before getting relegated again (funnily enough, in large part due to being sold out illegally to a hedge fund with no clue what they were doing). Being in the premier league, making that money, creating jobs and bringing some life back to the local area was such a big deal for almost everyone in such a poor part of the UK. This will make those left-behind areas even more excluded than they already were, and won't even improve the quality of life in the areas of the Super League teams all that much, given all of the travelling and the obvious focus on markets outside of those local ones (and the fact that few locals will be able to afford the inevitably even more exorbitant prices).
And to do it at a time where smaller clubs across the country and the continent are struggling to pay all their players/employees and stay afloat, instead of coming together as the giants of the game to try and do the right thing, this is what they've done. Come up with a way to shut out EVERYONE ELSE and keep as much profits as possible.
Every second I spend thinking about this I get more livid.
It's ridiculous and I'll be done with Spurs as soon as it's confirmed. A breaking point.
Any sporting event where teams qualify on name value alone instead of merit removes all the integrity from the game and makes a mockery of the system.
Can we just highlight how ridiculous it is that Arsenal and Spurs are claiming to be part of the Big 6 English teams? Nonsense.
what do you think of combat sports?
Speaking as someone who doesn't at all care about soccer, having a consolidated league with a subset of the best teams sounds like a great idea. It's impossible to follow european soccer because there's so many goddamn leagues/teamsWhat you describe already exists, it's called the champions league.
I love how people point that meritocracy will be destroyed when the top four teams in Europe at the moment are three teams created with oil money and Florentino PerezFor the record, I think the whole thing about meritocracy is true. But I would also add that this league completely removes the chance for a smaller team to have an amazing season and get those brilliant moments which the sport is all about. No more Leicester winning the top division, because whoever does win the top division that they can get in will have any triumph devalued by the fact that the "biggest" teams aren't there and the competition is so much worse.
Football has been all about money for many many years now
UEFA/FIFA are just mad they aren't getting any of it. They don't care about fans, they don't care about the sport
For the record, I think the whole thing about meritocracy is true. But I would also add that this league completely removes the chance for a smaller team to have an amazing season and get those brilliant moments which the sport is all about. No more Leicester winning the top division, because whoever does win the top division that they can get in will have any triumph devalued by the fact that the "biggest" teams aren't there and the competition is so much worse.The twelve teams in question don't have to leave any of their respective leagues, unless EUFA/FIFA forces them to. This league is meant to supplant the CL, not the EPL/La Liga/Serie A or any other national league.