Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 9: FA + preseason

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Free Agency re-posted rules

See all those players in the free agent sheet? Now is the time to attempt to sign them to your team. I say attempt because you will be, in theory, competing with 31 other teams for the services of every free agent.

Unlike the three previous offseason events involving signings, the desired deal that I will eventually list may not be enough to sign a player, and it definitely will not if it is any one of the top players available. If you do intend to seek out a top player, you will probably want to give a custom offer that is in excess of what they want. Whether that means years, total money, signing bonus, or a combination of the three is up to you.

I will not list every player on the free agent sheet, but you are free to ask for contract info for any player listed there that I do not post contract info for here. Also know that the players on the free agent sheet are just the Top 8 and bottom player player at each position. There are plenty more players available at every position, but they are all in the 9-to-second-to-last range at their position. If there's a particular kind of player you are looking for at a position, feel free to ask me, and I will let you know if someone fits that description.

There will be three periods of free agency. These are the tentative real life days each period will last:

1st - 9 days
2nd - 5 days
3rd - 1 day

Here are some sample contract offers that I will accept, including more simple approaches:

- 4 / $7.00 mil / $1.40 mil
- 5 / $9.00 mil / $2.00 mil
- 3 years default, +$1 mil total salary, +$500k signing bonus
- 2 years default

When you give me an offer, you are giving me your consent to offer the player the closest deal that he will consider , meaning that if you offer 4 / $6.00 mil / $2.00 mil and he will only consider it when it is 4 / $6.50 mil / $2.00 mil, I will offer him the latter. If that does not sit well with you, then you have the simpler options I previously laid out or you may explicitly say to not offer the contract unless he will consider those exact financials.

When you PM me the offers, I want you to PM me a header that says "[Your Team]'s Offers" so that I don't accidentally open them . I am the Dolphins' GM, so there could very well be some conflict of interests, and thus the best way around that is for me to not open those PMs until it is time to put in the offers and sim the game. I have default PM settings, so you can all tell if and when I open a PM of yours. If a fellow GM would like to volunteer to receive my PM offers to show that I am being fair and impartial, that would be great. If not, I hope that means you all trust me.

Under no circumstances may you ask me if so and so player will consider a certain deal or anything of that nature . You may ask me general questions regarding free agency, but nothing that goes against the spirit of free agency or give you a competitive advantage. If you do have a question, I prefer that you use the topic. If you wish to ask me via PM, make sure to be clear you are asking a question or I may not read it out of caution of it being a list of contract offers.

There are two types of contracts that I will never, ever accept

1. Any mention of the word "Maximum" relating to total salary or signing bonus.
2. A massive one year contract

The first one has in fact happened in the past, and I had to throw it out as it is both unfair in the laziest of ways and also impossible when it comes to total salary.

The second one is also unfair for teams with lots of cap space to also maintain artificial flexibility for future seasons by using up a lot cap space this season and then signing the player to an uncontested market value contract the following offseason, which then allows them to repeat this process as many times as they can/want.

Also, due to fairness issues, any cuts you make during free agency must be sent in:
96 hours prior to the end of Period 1
48 hours prior to the end of Period 2
Not allowed in Period 3

Three additional things that I feel that I need to point out (old post had two, but I forgot one that I mentioned last season)

1. Some positions are full of divas that once they reach a certain overall rating, they expect to start. If you are targeting a QB, HB, G, or C with a rating 82 or higher and aren't intending to start them, I highly recommend that you offer a two, possibly three, year deal at the max. That way, if they do ask for a trade during that contract, the risk . The downside to this is that you might lose out on the player due to superior deals, but I just wanted to give people word of caution because we've had A LOT of HBs demand trades over the years.

2. Free Agency is not just about users. Remember, we have 11 AI teams as well. The reason why I don't let people ask me questions to give them a competitive advantage is related to the AI teams more than anything. In consecutive offseasons, I have been asked what was the winning contract for X player in a previous offseason. I will not give out that info. The best you can do is study the team financial sheet and scan the contracts of user players to the best of your ability and if you keep a record of your own free agency offers through the years, you can use that as a baseline for players. You can also ask the contracts that your own players signed if that will help.

3. Free Agents covet money and need on a team the most. If you do not have a clear starting position available, you are far less likely to sign someone to a deal than a team that does clearly need them. There are exceptions (Abdul Hodge), but they are uncommon or even rare.

The deadline to submit free agent offers for Round 1 will be Wednesday, October 25th at 5 PM ET .

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I'm putting OG Claude Terrell (88 OVR, 31 years old) on the trade block.

As far as positions go I'm looking at WR, SS, or possibly OLB. I'm also willing to deal for picks. I'm also going to be exploring possible AI trades so let me know if you're interested if you want to save some work for KCF.

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Oh you can probably add DT to my list as well. I mean, those aren't the only positions I'll accept. If you think I could use someone else at another positions feel free to offer it up and I'll check it out.

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Deadline for R1 of free agency has passed

I will open them up shortly and come tomorrow, signings will be posted as will info for R2 and an updated spreadsheet

The Bills are anxiously awaiting the results. Will either be very pleased tomorrow or very diasppointed.

Lack of cap space and going after a position that is not a need means I probably didn't get the guy that I was targeting. But we'll see I guess.

Results from R1 of Free Agency

Bears sign WR J.J. Bedle to a 3 year deal
Bears sign TE James Dray to a 3 year deal
Bears sign FS Pat Pollard to a 3 year deal
Bengals sign DT Monsanto Pope to a 2 year deal
Bills sign DT Kris Jenkins to a 7 year deal
Bills sign HB Mewelde Moore to a 1 year deal
Bills sign C Russell Jacobs to a 1 year deal
Broncos sign G Jeno James to a 3 year deal
Bucs sign DE Richard Seymour to a 3 year deal
Bucs sign TE Joe Newton to a 3 year deal
Bucs sign WR Brandon Lloyd to a 3 year deal
Bucs sign K Jay Feely to a 3 year deal
Bucs sign P Aaron Perez to a 2 year deal
Chiefs sign DE Ryan Riddle to a 4 year deal
Chiefs sign G Chris Kemoeatu to a 3 year deal
Colts sign OT Matt Light to a 3 year deal
Colts sign C Wes Williams to a 3 year deal
Colts sign TE George Wrighster to a 2 year deal
Colts sign DE Shaun Ellis to a 3 year deal
Dolphins sign QB Ken Dorsey to a 3 year deal
49ers sign QB Drew Weatherford to a 5 year deal
Giants sign C Josh McNeil to a 4 year deal
Giants sign CB Ricky Manning to a 3 year deal
Giants sign CB Reuben Houston to a 5 year deal
Hawks sign K Shayne Graham to a 4 year deal
Hawks sign DT Monte Reagor to a 3 year deal
Hawks sign DE Patrick Kerney to a 2 year deal
Hawks sign DE K. Gbaja-Biamila to a 2 year deal
Hawks sign TE Jeff King to a 4 year deal
Hawks sign CB Justin Miller to a 3 year deal
Jets sign WR Antonio Bryant to a 3 year deal
Lions sign QB Derek Anderson to a 3 year deal
Packers sign OLB Spencer Havner to a 4 year deal
Patriots sign QB Jamarcus Russell to a 4 year deal
Patriots sign HB Ray Rice to a 4 year deal
Pioneers sign MLB Clifton Thompson to a 5 year deal
Pioneers sign MLB Tony Gilbert to a 2 year deal
Pumpkins sign SS Glenn Earl to a 3 year deal
Pumpkins sign DE Alex Brown to a 3 year deal
Pumpkins sign DE Aaron Schobel to a 3 year deal
Pumpkins sign QB Ryan Fitzpatrick to a 3 year deal
Rams sign FS Will Allen to a 3 year deal
Rams sign G Cooper Carlisle to a 3 year deal
Ravens sign CB Victor Harris to a 5 year deal
Ravens sign DE Nigel Douglas to a 3 year deal
Ravens sign OLB P.J. Hines to a 4 year deal
Ravens sign G Willie Colon to a 3 year deal
Seahawks sign HB T.J. Duckett to a 3 year deal
Seahawks sign QB Charlie Frye to a 3 year deal
Steelers sign SS Chris Keys to a 1 year deal
Titans sign FB Victor Mann to a 2 year deal
Vikings sign MLB Ben Leber to a 3 year deal
Vikings sign G Phil Bogle to a 2 year deal
Vikings sign G Adrien Clarke to a 2 year deal
Vikings sign QB J.P. Losman to a 3 year deal

Everybody who was offered a contract in R1 (user and AI) signed with a team (a B8NFLL first). Now the following posts will be the contract details for the current list of players are the Team Financial sheet. As always, these do not include all the free agents, so if you are looking for a particularly kind of player who isn't mentioned on it, let me know.

QB
Jordan Steffy 4 / $15.64 mil / $3.16 mil
Jay Cutler 4 / $14.28 mil / $2.76 mil
Bobby Reid 4 / $14.28 mil / $2.76 mil
Josh Freeman 5 / $14.45 mil / $2.40 mil
Matt Flynn 5 / $14.45 mil / $2.40 mil
Brian Brohm 5 / $14.45 mil / $2.40 mil
Anthony Morelli 5 / $13.30 mil / $2.20 mil
Gavin Dickey 5 / $12.15 mil / $2.00 mil
David Greene 3 / $5.22 mil / $840k

HB
Courtney Lewis 4 / $19.36 mil / $3.84 mil
Marlon Lucky 4 / $16.20 mil / $3.16 mil
Terry Longbons 4 / $16.20 mil / $3.16 mil
Selvin Young 4 / $16.20 mil / $3.16 mil
Joseph Addai 4 / $14.56 mil / $2.80 mil
Brandon Jackson 4 / $14.56 mil / $2.80 mil
Samkon Gado 3 / $9.75 mil / $1.86 mil
Albert Young 4 / $13.00 mil / $2.48 mil
Javon Riggs 4 / $3.84 mil / $560k

FB
Tim Castille 2 / $7.10 mil / $1.82 mil
James Coleman 2 / $6.36 mil / $1.48 mil
Mike Smith 2 / $5.82 mil / $1.32 mil
Troy Fleming 3 / $8.07 mil / $1.83 mil
Cory Anderson 3 / $5.43 mil / $1.14 mil
Madison Hedgecock 3 / $5.43 mil / $1.14 mil
Roger Allison 3 / $4.74 mil / $960k
Deon Anderson 3 / $4.08 mil / $780k
Brett McIntyre 2 / $1.60 mil / $220k

WR
Bryant Johnson 3 / $12.72 mil / $2.13 mil
Jason Hill 4 / $15.56 mil / $2.60 mil
Todd Blythe 4 / $15.56 mil / $2.60 mil
Tyrone Calico 3 / $9.54 mil / $1.59 mil
Reche Caldwell 3 / $9.54 mil / $1.59 mil
Samie Parker 3 / $8.94 mil / $1.47 mil
Chris Henry 5 / $14.90 mil / $2.45 mil
Jovon Bouknight 5 / $14.90 mil / $2.45 mil
Andy Dickerson 3 / $3.30 mil / $390k

TE
Octavius Darby 4 / $7.48 mil / $1.12 mil
Garrett Mills 4 / $7.48 mil / $1.12 mil
Andrew Clarke 4 / $6.56 mil / $960k
David Thomas 4 / $6.56 mil / $960k
Larry Donnell 2 / $3.28 mil / $480k
Joe Klopfenstein 4 / $6.08 mil / $880k
Jonathan Hannah 4 / $6.08 mil / $880k
Brandon Pettigrew 2 / $3.04 mil / $440k
David Ryan 3 / $2.04 mil / $210k

OT
Lewis Kelly 3 / $11.43 mil / $2.73 mil
Tom Ashworth 3 / $10.14 mil / $2.31 mil
Anthony Collins 3 / $10.14 mil / $2.31 mil
Matt Hardrick 4 / $11.80 mil / $2.52 mil
Michael Roos 3 / $6.27 mil / $1.05 mil
Andrew Cameron 5 / $10.10 mil / $1.65 mil
Geoff Schwartz 5 / $10.10 mil / $1.65 mil
Jordan Black 3 / $6.06 mil / $990k
Chester Pitts 2 / $3.34 mil / $500k

G
Steve Sciullo 3 / $11.67 mil / $2.34 mil
Cedrick Dockery 3 / $11.67 mil / $2.34 mil
Damien Woody 3 / $10.41 mil / $2.07 mil
Toniu Fonoti 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.83 mil
Adam Stenavich 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.83 mil
John Simonitis 3 / $7.98 mil / $1.56 mil
Ian Allen 3 / $7.98 mil / $1.56 mil
Rich Seubert 3 / $6.75 mil / $1.32 mil
Michael Parenton 4 / $2.88 mil / $240k

C
Al Johnson 3 / $6.09 mil / $1.17 mil
Andre Gurode 3 / $5.67 mil / $1.05 mil
Scott Mruczkowski 3 / $5.31 mil / $960k
Na'Shan Goddard 3 / $5.31 mil / $960k
Tim Schafer 3 / $4.62 mil / $810k
Richie Gandy 3 / $4.29 mil / $750k
Bruce Nelson 3 / $4.29 mil / $750k
Mike Pucillo 3 / $3.36 mil / $660k
Clint Mayhew 3 / $2.10 mil / $240k

DE
Ryan Nece 3 / $10.32 mil / $1.98 mil
Ben Taylor 3 / $9.24 mil / $1.68 mil
Erasmus James 3 / $7.05 mil / $1.05 mil
Michael Boley 3 / $7.05 mil / $1.05 mil
Matthew Rice 5 / $9.50 mil / $1.15 mil
Tamba Hali 5 / $9.15 mil / $1.10 mil
Jorrie Adams 5 / $9.15 mil / $1.10 mil
Rhyan Anderson 5 / $8.80 mil / $1.10 mil
Darrick London 4 / $3.88 mil / $440k

DT
Gabe Long 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Corey Clark 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Quinn Pitcock 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Brandon Maupin 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Fili Moala 5 / $13.25 mil / $2.55 mil
Carlton Powell 5 / $13.25 mil / $2.55 mil
Teraz McCray 5 / $13.25 mil / $2.55 mil
Keenan Carter 5 / $13.25 mil / $2.55 mil
Andrew Smith 4 / $4.76 mil / $600k

OLB
Dwayne Holmes 4 / $6.40 mil / $1.04 mil
Anthony Felder 4 / $6.40 mil / $1.04 mil
Joshua Massey 4 / $5.60 mil / $880k
Ernie Sims 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
John Kerr 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
Shawn Crable 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
Daniel Brooks 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
Justin Cook 4 / $5.04 mil / $760k
Aaron Griffin 3 / $2.58 mil / $270k

MLB
Korey Hall 3 / $10.92 mil / $1.74 mil
Curtis Lofton 3 / $8.67 mil / $990k
Lance Mitchell 3 / $5.88 mil / $600k
Justin Warren 3 / $5.52 mil / $570k
Tim McGarigle 3 / $5.52 mil / $570k
Pat Lowery 3 / $5.52 mil / $570k
Jordan Dizon 3 / $5.19 mil / $570k
Derek Mendoza 3 / $4.86 mil / $570k
James Martin 3 / $2.73 mil / $270k

CB
Ellis Hobbs 3 / $7.77 mil / $810k
Danny Gorrer 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Tony Franklin 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Stanford Routt 3 / $6.72 mil / $720k
Roshaun Fellows 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Harold Dalton 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Cary Harris 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Kelvin Hayden 3 / $6.21 mil / $690k
Steve Washington 4 / $4.04 mil / $480k

FS
Nate Lyles 4 / $8.12 mil / $1.36 mil
Terrance Washington 4 / $7.60 mil / $1.28 mil
Jahmile Addae 4 / $7.60 mil / $1.28 mil
Trevis Coley 3 / $5.70 mil / $960k
Jason Simpson 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
Vincent Meeks 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
John Gattis 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
Mike Rumph 3 / $4.89 mil / $810k
Corey Walton 2 / $2.20 mil / $340k

SS
Lamon Means 3 / $6.36 mil / $780k
Daniel Bullocks 3 / $6.36 mil / $780k
Ben Emanuel 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Dominique Brooks 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Paul Thomas 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Byron Cook 2 / $2.90 mil / $400k
Joshua Gore 3 / $4.35 mil / $600k
Greg Dockery 2 / $2.90 mil / $400k
Eric Thompson 3 / $2.55 mil / $330k

K
Kris Brown 3 / $3.87 mil / $510k
Billy Cundiff 3 / $3.72 mil / $510k
Jason Robbins 2 / $2.48 mil / $340k
Connor Hughes 3 / $2.67 mil / $330k
Kevin Kelly 3 / $2.31 mil / $330k
Justin Medlock 3 / $2.31 mil / $330k
Greg Zuerlein 2 / $1.58 mil / $220k
Blair Walsh 3 / $2.07 mil / $270k
Skyler Shelton 1 / $450k / $30k

P
Jacob Richardson 3 / $2.43 mil / $450k
Chris Kluwe 3 / $2.79 mil / $450k
Josh Bidwell 3 / $3.15 mil / $450k
Tim Reyer 3 / $2.37 mil / $390k
Eric Wilbur 3 / $2.37 mil / $390k
Jason Baker 3 / $3.06 mil / $360k
Matt Bosher 2 / $1.40 mil / $200k
Jordan Bell 3 / $1.98 mil / $270k
Chris Bolden 1 / $360k / $0k

Deadline to submit offers for Round 2 of Free Agency will be 3 PM ET on Tuesday, October 31st

Deadline to submit cuts during Round 2 of Free Agency will be 3 PM ET on Sunday, October 29th

Got 3 out of 5, that's actually pretty solid. Damn you @Eddv , you got one I wanted though!

Anyway, FS Kent Hicks is on the trade block. 27 year old, 85 rating.

The Bills are extremely pleased to have signed DT Kris Jenkins! Welcome to the team!

Stevr that's actually pretty clever what you did with Jenkins, I'll have to remember that.

mccheyne posted...

Got 3 out of 5, that's actually pretty solid. Damn you @Eddv , you got one I wanted though!

Anyway, FS Kent Hicks is on the trade block. 27 year old, 85 rating.

If you want Reuben Houston that badly we can come to terms.

Nah wasn't him. I'm not actually mad that you got someone I was after, just taking a poke at you for fun!

I was joking because Houston was taken just as roster filler.

<3

Emeraldegg posted...

Stevr that's actually pretty clever what you did with Jenkins, I'll have to remember that.

I'd considered doing something like that, but thought it would be frowned upon.

Stevr ended up having to pay a lot more than what he sent me, so it all balances out. It is frowned upon though.

I do have personal policies about attempts to game the system, and I will hopefully not have to enforce them.

I dont understand...what happened?

Jenkins will not see the end of that contract. My guess is that he will play 5 seasons, maybe 6.

Eddv posted...

I dont understand...what happened?

Yeah I was just about to ask this. Did I miss something?

So the more years you offer a guy, the fewer you have to pay them the early years and the more you have to pay them later years. IE It spreads the contract over more years. But Kris Jenkins will be in the league maybe 2 years more, max. So what ends up happening was stevr offered him what will essentially be a backloaded contract that he won't be responsible for because Jenkins will end up retiring before he is owed that money.

KCF0107 posted...

Jenkins will not see the end of that contract. My guess is that he will play 5 seasons, maybe 6.

IMO my estimate of 2 was probably low but he's 34, do DTs play past 37? 5 would mean he'd be 39.

Typed something out and just lost it... Gahhh.

Anyway, I don't know this for sure, but I assume better rated players are perhaps more likely to play longer. Also, based on a somewhat related question I asked KCF previously, I might extrapolate from that conversation that d-linemen may be more likely to play longer before retiring. I don't actually know any of that for sure.

I definitely expected Kris Jenkins to play more than 2 years though even if I don't expect he'll play at age 40+.

I was anxious yesterday because I had no idea if Jenkins would even agree to a 7-year deal. The Bills really needed a DT, the Bills have a lot of cap space, and Jenkins has a 98 OVR, so even if it drops a bit later, it made sense for us to give him as much money as possible to lock him up for the remainder of his career.

If you thought I'd only have to pay him a small fraction of his 7-year deal, I guess I could see why that would be frowned upon, but I certainly wasn't signing him under that assumption.

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1 out of 3. One of them even took less money (but longer deal) and other was AI so god knows what they offered. Bleh, well they were going to be back-ups/future starters after retirements so not a huge deal, might be why they opted against signing for me.

The 7 year deal thing is kinda borderline really. Offering an old guy 7 years should be viewed in the same light as offering someone a monster 1 year deal (something we are not allowed to do) imo. That being said, that contract is astronomical and he's going to be paying 10-11m a year for a 37-38 year old who may have dropped to low 90s or worse at that point when other teams are paying like 5m for guys in the lower 90s. So he's going to pay for it eventually which is why I'm ok with it.

Would be hard to implement a rule for it as you'd have to do ages based on positions since they retire at different times. Like maybe you can't sign anyone to a contract that puts them beyond 38 on expiry? And lower for skill positions that retire sooner? 35 or so? Once they hit that age you can only offer 1-2 year deals or something?

But that's hypocritical of me anyway when I have 36-37 year olds on my roster with 4 year deals (granted I wasn't competing against anyone for their contracts)

I would assume such things can only be left up to KCF's discretion as he has no way of knowing exactly when players will retire, he can only give us ranges. Also I think players can still ask for contracts longer than we would expect them to play anyway, so that would be rather unfair if a 36 y/o asked for 3 years and we weren't allowed to give it to them.

I've considered doing this for the right player so whatevs.

Just to be clear I don't actually care that much, only gave my 2 cents as someone else brought it up

I mean if people really hate the idea of it (I personally don't care either way because in my eyes anyone is free to offer a 7-year deal right now, so it's not like anyone has an unfair advantage), then I'm fine with there being a set-in-stone rule for certain ages or something.

The only potential issue I'd see with only allowing age 35+ skill position guys 2 years maximum or whatever is if the AI will offer them longer deals.

It's not the same thing since Drew Brees was 33 last year, but I know I lost him to the AI Jets because he agreed to a 4-year deal there when I only offered him 2 years (he was asking for 2 years just ftr). That would be an issue if the same thing happened at age 35+ for skill position players.

It's hard for me to give a better suggestion though since I don't know how the AI works in any given scenario.

I will, however, heavily disagree with Shattered's contention that offering a 34-year old a 7-year deal is like offering a monster 1-year deal. There's a pretty big difference here.

The Bills still have $20+ million in cap space for the current season. The contract is back-loaded . It would be pretty beneficial for the Bills to structure the contract so a large amount of it came this year (which obviously isn't possible in the game), instead of having to pay big money 4-5 years down the line.

Whereas a big one year-deal would make it so the Bills would be able to procure anyone they wanted's services and then re-sign them to a reasonable deal the following off-season after they'd stolen them from everyone else in free agency.

I'm sure the reasons you laid out are why kcf is allowing it anyway, I'm fine with it.

I mean it's not the same scenario but the reason I like it to a monster 1 year deal is because for 2 reasons really.

1. You theoretically save a lot of money because the deal is backloaded. You offered something like 7 years / 77m but what you're actually paying is probably 4 years / 38m or 5 years / 50m. Whereas if you just offered 4 years or 5 years, you likely have to pay more.

2. A lot of the money is 'fake' money in that it's never getting paid. You're essentially offering 25-37m in imaginary money. Which is a huge bonus over someone offering a normal length contract. I'm going to assume that if someone offered 4 years / 38m and someone offered 7 years / 77m, he's picking the second contract despite them both theoretically paying the same assuming a retirement at 38

So yeah it's not the same thing as a monster 1 year deal but I view it in similarly because of the advantages it gives you

Like I said, I actually have no problem with it because you are going to be overpaying for a player who is presumably going to decline and you have no way out of the deal given his annual bonus so it's a fair deal really. And I also don't actually care about a rule being implemented, I just like commenting on things really.

I wouldn't have said anything if nobody else mentioned it. I also did the exact same thing to my own players when resigning them so can hardly complain.

Well, aside from all this, have fun with Jenkins lol, he was a good Raven while it lasted

Bears have cut WR Whitney Lewis and FS Chris Hope. They do not qualify for making the spreadsheet, but I am going to leave their overall rating and age in the spreadsheet. If you are interested in signing them, let me know and I will give you their contract info.

bumpo for more free agency

KCF0107 posted...

When you PM me the offers, I want you to PM me a header that says "[Your Team]'s Offers" so that I don't accidentally open them .

Guys, please, please do and remember this. For the second time this free agency, a PM with a heading that had no indication of containing free agent offers did in fact contain some

Guys

Guys

Srsly

Guys

I'm assuming everyone's waiting to see the results of FA before making offers for an 88 OG cause no one has any cap space. Yup. =D

If anyone wants to trade the Bills the equivalent of a Jimmy Garoppolo for a 2nd round pick, the Bills are all ears.