Doug Ford wants to end rent protection in Ontario

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https://www.torontotoday.ca/local/city-hall/ford-government-opens-door-to-ending-indefinite-leases-for-ontario-tenants-11390184

It really only ever gets worse...

There's already an affordability and homeless crisis here and now these idiots want to jack everyone's rent up to unattainable levels
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AnsestralRecall posted...
How is that man still relevant? Walking pile of bad policy

Not a patch on his late brother
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AnsestralRecall posted...
How is that man still relevant? Walking pile of bad policy

Well, he's positioned himself as being starkly anti-Trump, and he's been very vocal (using taxpayer dollars no less) about it and that's something the revertebrates with a lot of Canadians right now.

So because of that and because the provincial liberals have yet to recover and present a real challenge to his mandate he just keeps getting elected even through numerous scandals, controversy, incompetency and terrible policy.
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randy_123r posted...
Rent is going down too,


this is a good thing, can't revert back or worse than before

rent should be affordable options for all income levels.
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AnsestralRecall posted...
How is that man still relevant? Walking pile of bad policy
because Canadians by and large dont really vote people in, But vote people out when they get pissed enough at a specific politician and Ford has managed to keep people distracted from his various scandals and fuck ups enough that people forget about his fuck ups while parading the things that people like that he does

Not helped by the provincial liberals absolutely fucking up the last decade(Kathleen Wynne really should have stepped aside with how unpopular she was) and the NDP constantly tripping over themselves as well

I'll probably be back to living with my parents when this is implemented
Why do they hate the poor so much?
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Homeless rates are going see huge increases. I've been in my place for 10 years. If I get served a new lease at market rate my rent goes up $1000 a month. I live in Kingston which basically has no rental vacancy. Theres nowhere else to go. I would end up on the street, or be forced to get a second full time job just to keep up.
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HighSeraph posted...
Why do they hate the poor so much?
Well Ford is buddies with a bunch of mega rich real estate investor types so his decisions are more based on general corruption than specifically to spite the poor.
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AnsestralRecall posted...
How is that man still relevant? Walking pile of bad policy

Anti-Trump and anti-Poilievre. He's angling for the CPC leadership.

Now, he's better than Poilievre but that's not exactly high praise.
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Seems to get glossed over a lot that Ford might be the second or third-most evil political leader in the country.
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Bio1590 posted...
Seems to get glossed over a lot that Ford might be the second or third-most evil political leader in the country.

Poilievre, Danielle Smith, Maxime Bernier and I'd probably argue John Rustad as well are all worse than Ford.

That's just off the top of my head and if I really thought about it I bet I could come up with one or two more names that could be argued to be worse than Ford.

Again, this is not high praise.
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sfcalimari posted...
Canada's Trump.
I wouldn't quite say he is that bad(though i can understand thinking that)... P.P is a wanna be trump for sure, I still say premier wise Alberta's Danielle smith is worse
Raiden2909 posted...
I wouldn't quite say he is that bad(though i can understand thinking that)... P.P is a wanna be trump for sure, I still say premier wise Alberta's Danielle smith is worse

I'd probably argue that Danielle Smith is literally the worst Canada has. Maxime Bernier would probably be worse than her but he and his party are pretty irrelevant.
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VincentVega posted...
If I get served a new lease at market rate my rent goes up $1000 a month.


i hope that scenario doesn't happen to all canadians. would really suck (in the US where i live, there's high rates to finding a place to live) it's unreachable to poor people.
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Well, that's one way to solve the cost-of-living crisis, right?
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It seems like the link in the OP isn't actually even about rent control at all? But rather he is considering reintroducing no-cause evictions (with some undefined notice period. That's a different issue. Security of tenancy is important but imo whether there's a role for no-cause eviction depends on what other pathways exist for an owner to get a tenant out if there is a problem.

I'm generally a left leaning person but I don't support rent controls like this. It works in the favour of anyone who is a current tenant but you basically end up with a permanent divide of "haves" and "have nots", people who are unwilling or unable to move even when it would otherwise make sense to, a group of landlords with no incentive to properly maintain or develop their houses, and inefficient use of land in the affected areas. My country doesn't have any form of this outside of government-provided housing with income-based rents and tbh I'm happy with that.
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Sonic_Cannon posted...
It seems like the link in the OP isn't actually even about rent control at all? But rather he is considering reintroducing no-cause evictions (with some undefined notice period. That's a different issue. Security of tenancy is important but imo whether there's a role for no-cause eviction depends on what other pathways exist for an owner to get a tenant out if there is a problem.

I'm generally a left leaning person but I don't support rent controls like this. It works in the favour of anyone who is a current tenant but you basically end up with a permanent divide of "haves" and "have nots", people who are unwilling or unable to move even when it would otherwise make sense to, a group of landlords with no incentive to properly maintain or develop their houses, and inefficient use of land in the affected areas. My country doesn't have any form of this outside of government-provided housing with income-based rents and tbh I'm happy with that.

The no cause evictions are a way of skirting around rent control, so that people like me who have lived in a unit for years, have been good tenants and paid their rent on time, but are paying below market rate because of rent control can be evicted just so they can jack the rent up.on me, or to a new renter if I can't pay.

The reason this is disastrous is that rent has been skyrocketing over the past 5 or 6 years. Before you could afford a small apartment on a low wage salary, now a full time minimum wage job wouldn't even cover the rent, of if it does you would have $100 a month left to live on. So where do the people who stock shelves at a grocery store, work in fast good, and other necessary but low wage jobs live? Can't afford to rent, can't afford to buy so whats the solution? Work 2 full time jobs just so you don't have to freeze to death? That's to say nothing of seniors or the disabled who can't work and are on strict mode they budgets.

Canada isn't Tokyo. Theres space to build plenty of new homes. My city has put up a ton of new buildings, only they're catered to wealthy university students so around $2000+ for a 1 bedroom or retirements homes.for the elderly at $6000+ a month. They've imported over 300,000 temporary foreign workers this year alone, and that report came out in August. Those workers are taking both units that could go to people looking to move out on their own, upgrade their lifestyle, or find something they can better afford, on top of taking the entry level jobs, so good even trying to get a second job to help out with your rent. They've done nothing to cater to our most vulnerable people in the last decade and the current homeless numbers prove it. If this passes, its going to so much higher than before and people are going die, all because they're not wealthy enough to buy a home and are at the whims of the greed of a landlord.
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49% of Toronto are renters. Or 1.7 million people. Our premier just pissed off half a city
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VincentVega posted...
The no cause evictions are a way of skirting around rent control, so that people like me who have lived in a unit for years, have been good tenants and paid their rent on time, but are paying below market rate because of rent control can be evicted just so they can jack the rent up.on me, or to a new renter if I can't pay.

The reason this is disastrous is that rent has been skyrocketing over the past 5 or 6 years. Before you could afford a small apartment on a low wage salary, now a full time minimum wage job wouldn't even cover the rent, of if it does you would have $100 a month left to live on. So where do the people who stock shelves at a grocery store, work in fast good, and other necessary but low wage jobs live? Can't afford to rent, can't afford to buy so whats the solution? Work 2 full time jobs just so you don't have to freeze to death? That's to say nothing of seniors or the disabled who can't work and are on strict mode they budgets.

Canada isn't Tokyo. Theres space to build plenty of new homes. My city has put up a ton of new buildings, only they're catered to wealthy university students so around $2000+ for a 1 bedroom or retirements homes.for the elderly at $6000+ a month. They've imported over 300,000 temporary foreign workers this year alone, and that report came out in August. Those workers are taking both units that could go to people looking to move out on their own, upgrade their lifestyle, or find something they can better afford, on top of taking the entry level jobs, so good even trying to get a second job to help out with your rent. They've done nothing to cater to our most vulnerable people in the last decade and the current homeless numbers prove it. If this passes, its going to so much higher than before and people are going die, all because they're not wealthy enough to buy a home and are at the whims of the greed of a landlord.
This. I was fortunate enough to buy a house this year, but most aren't. For context, I had to save for 12 years with rent around $1k - which would not have been possible if I weren't lucky enough to have started renting when I did. Rents in my area are about $1800 on the low end now and my mortgage is $1700 - but the bank still acts as a gatekeeper even if mortgages are cheaper. With $130k down payment, I was told I'd only qualify for a $275k mortgage - less than the cost of an empty plot of land. I needed to get TWO people to cosign my mortgage debt to be able to qualify for my $420k house (which was super cheap for the quality - most that don't need major renovations are running $500k+). Houses are literally impossible to own for the majority of people, and rents already push most into either extreme poverty or homelessness. Further increases will just exacerbate problems exponentially.
Bokothechoco2 posted...
For context, I had to save for 12 years with rent around $1k - which would not have been possible if I weren't lucky enough to have started renting when I did.

I had similar luck. My wife and I only were able to save up years ago because our rent was $900 per month, our landlord wasn't in a situation where she particularly needed money so she would only raise the rent whenever property taxes would go up. She liked the rent out to people at a low rate so they could save up.

One of the few good experiences with landlords I've ever had.
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Enclave posted...
I had similar luck. My wife and I only were able to save up years ago because our rent was $900 per month, our landlord wasn't in a situation where she particularly needed money so she would only raise the rent whenever property taxes would go up. She liked the rent out to people at a low rate so they could save up.

One of the few good experiences with landlords I've ever had.
I wish I could say the same. My first landlord was a megacorp, and they renovated the garages so they could apply for a 20% rent increase. I moved out of there into another place at comparable price to what I was at ($900ish) and then was about $1050 by the time I left 7 years later. Landlord there was a prick, and when he died, his son was even more of a prick, but COVID hit about a year or so after I moved in, and housing prices went to the moon after that... If I didn't buy a house at the moment I did, and if this thing passes, I'd probably end up on the streets lmao
Bokothechoco2 posted...
I wish I could say the same. My first landlord was a megacorp, and they renovated the garages so they could apply for a 20% rent increase. I moved out of there into another place at comparable price to what I was at ($900ish) and then was about $1050 by the time I left 7 years later. Landlord there was a prick, and when he died, his son was even more of a prick, but COVID hit about a year or so after I moved in, and housing prices went to the moon after that... If I didn't buy a house at the moment I did, and if this thing passes, I'd probably end up on the streets lmao
People being out on the streets will be the reality after this bill
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Bokothechoco2 posted...
My first landlord was a megacorp


great that is how i had my rent increased. big company bought out the small owner. then decided to jack up the rent 400$.

and the place i lived in weren't up to that rental standard to deserve that. (had to share one small water heater for 5 apartments) more of a coin flip if hot/cold water would happen (sometimes uncle didn't have the hot water for the shower so he could get ready for work smelling clean).
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Rent prices are coming down due to market right now in Toronto so hopefully, even if this passes it will mean nothing
Blue_Popo posted...
Rent prices are coming down due to market right now in Toronto so hopefully, even if this passes it will mean nothing
Toronto and Vancouver are kind of outliers in the housing market. Housing prices in general are pretty overinflated, but those two areas in particular are on a different level. They're like the NYC of Canada - there's no good reason for the prices there beyond "It's Toronto", but prices continue to get more and more absurd anyway. I feel like the price drops there are just a matter of the bubble getting too big and seeing a correction at the moment, and then they'll just go back to rising again like they always have.

Checking prices in my area right now, looks like around $1200 is the cheapest for a small apartment connected to a sketchy shop on a street known for being one of the prime drug dealers/addict spots in the city. About $1650 for a 1 bedroom apartment in a safer part of the city. I don't see any 2 bedroom apartments (as in actual apartments, not just parts of houses) for rent right now under $2k. So not much changed here really - if anything it continues to get worse.
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Ford is a disgrace.
Wherethisfeom posted...
Ford is a disgrace.
Has been for some time
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sfcalimari posted...
Canada's Trump.
Feel Smith is closer to Trump, or has more of a MAGA mindset then Ford. But Ford is still an opportunist that will rather cater to the wealthy then helping the average Ontario person.
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Scardude posted...
Has been for some time

HighSeraph posted...
Why do they hate the poor so much?

Easy scapegoat since often even poor people look down on other poor people.
"If you make shit more affordable for poor people, it'll become too expensive for rich people, so they'll spend money to uproot their lives, so we can't have that, so we need to keep shit expensive for poor people so that rich people can afford to live"
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