Majoras MaskReduxon N64
interesting responses, compared to OOT where it seems most people prefer 3DS other than some lighting changes in some scenesyeah OOT is mostly the same with a visual liftup and really nice QoL, while for MM it feels like it's trying to "fix" some of the game's quirks that people like.
worse ice arrowsWhat did they change about ice arrows?
What did they change about ice arrows?You can no longer freeze anywhere you want in the water, only in designated spots.
You can no longer freeze anywhere you want in the water, only in designated spots.Oh damn that's stupid. Like, why even?
people are mentioning the bosses a lot, why would they even change that >_>they gave every boss a giant eyeball for some reason
they gave every boss a giant eyeball for some reasonThey not only gave them glaringly obvious weak points, they also - for better or worse, usually worse - completely changed some boss fights so you had to fight them a specific way.
N64 all the way. Bosses are better (behavior patterns), platforming is better (the entire world is very slightly off-scale in the 3DS version, so everything is very slightly farther apart), and the entire point of the time system isn't voided .
I have never played MM, but what does the bold part mean?So if I had to guess - and I'm sure Evening Dragon will correct me when I'm wrong - it's about the change to saving the game.
N64.
I don't like how they changed the bosses
you play it? actually sounds pretty cool. think i'll try that out the next time i play OoT. got a backlog of stuff to play but i tend to replay OoT and MM like every 3-5 years.Absolutely recommend, the original version of OoT is unplayable after Ive played OoT Redux. Literally no reason go back. And it works on the original hardware.
So if I had to guess - and I'm sure Evening Dragon will correct me when I'm wrong - it's about the change to saving the game.
See, with the N64 version of the game, the only way to make a permanent save was to reset time back to the start of the three-day cycle with the Song of Time; you'd lose any progress you made on sidequests, any rupees or ammo you had on you, and the dungeon bosses would respawn, but you'd keep any heart pieces/containers, masks, songs, or major items (like the Bow, the Hookshot, etc) you obtained. However, you could make temporary saves at the game's warp points, which would last until the next time you turned the game on and loaded that save file, at which point the temp save would delete itself. Think of that as more like being able to pause the game and turn off your N64, then come back later and pick up where you left off. You'd still eventually have to save, but it was a good way to handle things if something came up without warning
In MM3DS, on the other hand, they changed it so you just make a permanent save at any warp point statue, and then added a bunch of secondary statues around the map (usually in sub-zones or at the start of dungeons/mini-dungeons) that can also be used to save the game, but which can't be warped to. All the Song of Time does now is reset the three-day cycle, which can be really annoying since you now have to go to the warp point in the central hub after going back to Day One to save. It's one of those changes where I kinda get where they were coming from - MM3DS is on a handheld instead of a console, so having to quickly save and quit out is potentially more likely to come up - but it also means that you don't have to worry as much about things going pear-shaped (a sidequest goes wrong, you run out of time), since you're no longer starting back over at the very beginning.
There is a mod for the 3DS version that gets rid of most of the bad changes. It fixes the swimming, inverted song of time, and ice arrows for example. Removes the eyeballs too though Im unsure if it fully restores boss fightsI looked into it. So slow swim was the default in the 3DS version and you needed magic to swim faster which was the default in the N64 version... I vaguely remember this now. Also, there was apparently a difference between the NA and JP versions of swimming.
the recompiled PC version