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They are absurd resource hogs. Not even just the water but electricity as well.
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Crypto and AI are capitalism at the absolute fucking worst. The fact that something like this could actually happen just shows we've already pushed humanity into obsolescence for the economy, which is terrifying.
You don't understand. I really need to run my every random thought through an AI chatbot. I also need all my work apps to badly integrate with AI. I want my meetings to be recorded and summarised in a way that almost seems helpful, but is just wrong enough that I may as well have taken the notes myself.
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Why don't they build their data centers near the sea so they can use seawater instead?
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Can someone explain the water usage?

It all gets recycled though, yes?

Or does it actually burn the water into vapor?
Thompson posted...
Why don't they build their data centers near the sea so they can use seawater instead?
saltwater corrodes everything it touches
after years of waiting
nothing came
As much as I like messing around with generative AI programs, I would gladly give it up if it meant stopping this bullshit.
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Humanity has lost all sense of connection to nature. You see it when people argue climate science, where they don't even seem bothered by ANY shit that affects even a local ecosystem. Like they can't even find it in their hearts to imagine why dumping petroleum into a lakebed might be bad.

It's probably partly due to misinformation, but also probably because a lot of people just...never interact with nature anymore.
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15 years ago if some one had wrote a a dystopian teen novel with the plot having

"corporation hoard all the water so they can keep computers that generate all art cool and then sell that art to us"

it would be rejected for being to ludicrous even for a parody little alone something serious
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God, were living in such a fucking Clownworld right now.
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the og cyberpunk predicted a lot of these
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I genuinely think operating A.I data centers during summer should be a capitol crime.

Its a straight up crime against humanity. It kills/will kill people via water shortages and power outages and it kills us intellectually and culturally as well. It wastes and pollutes waters. The noise severely reduces quality of life for anyone in several miles.

Its evil flat out.
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Dumb question, but why does AI even need water?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense.
Hejiru posted...
Dumb question, but why does AI even need water?

to keep the computers cool

AI generation takes ALOT of power

it also takes alot of graphics cards (which is why they are so expensive now do to scarcity)

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Hejiru posted...
Dumb question, but why does AI even need water?
AI relies on intense computing power; the water is to cool the data centers.
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AceMos posted...
to keep the computers cool

AI generation takes ALOT of power

it also takes alot of graphics cards (which is why they are so expensive now do to scarcity)

Antifar posted...
AI relies on intense computing power; the water is to cool the data centers.

Ok, I guess that makes sense, but then why do they need to keep using up so much per day? I mean, its not like the water goes bad. Couldnt they just cycle it to a tank to cool off and then reuse it? Are they really just wasting it when the water gets hot and then getting new water?
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Hejiru posted...
Ok, I guess that makes sense, but then why do they need to keep using up so much per day? I mean, its not like the water goes bad. Couldnt they just cycle it to a tank to cool off and then reuse it? Are they really just wasting it when the water gets hot and then getting new water?

these things have to constantly run

and keep in mind we are only talking ONE data center at the moment

more are going to get built
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AceMos posted...
these things have to constantly run

and keep in mind we are only talking ONE data center at the moment

more are going to get built
This combined with freshwater contamination and further rising sea water means humanity will likely be seeing a sharp decline in the future so the machines can keep going
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It's not like we need water or anything. I'm sure we'll be fine.
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But what does the AI have to say about this? >_>
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I guess there's going to be big money in desalination soon.
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RasterGraphic posted...
I guess there's going to be big money in desalination soon.

I think that's something we were always going to have to embrace as a society.

The problem is putting that tech into the hands of people who could profit off it since making you pay for usable water is too juicy to pass up.
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Its funny. Decades of cautionairy tales about jumping into technology and how it could be dangerous for humanity.

Not a word of it was listened to.
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Its funny. Decades of cautionairy tales about jumping into technology and how it could be dangerous for humanity.

Not a word of it was listened to.
COVID economic boom made that not matter. Line went up too much and they don't want it to come down ever again, even if blood is required.
McmadnessV3 posted...
Its funny. Decades of cautionairy tales about jumping into technology and how it could be dangerous for humanity.

Not a word of it was listened to.

its not technology thats danerous

just billionair techbros

remove techbros

and no one would be pushing crap like crypto or NFTs or AI

remove capitalism and we could have useful technology getting developed

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This is the inevitable result of deifying the tech industry for decades. Now it's run by a bunch of utter morons who failed upwards, but we still just let them do whatever they want in the name of protecting the house of cards that is the stock market.
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It's due for a crash soon. Nobody likes it anymore, and the trough of disillusionment/Gartner Hype Cycle is well past the peak.

AI is just NFTs in slow motion. It will crash/be gone within the next few years and we'll be on to the next nonsensical thing that burns down the amazon rainforest.
Kind reminder not to defend corporations when they make dumb/anti-consumer decisions.
the worst fucking part is how I feel like anytime I point this out some obviously pro-AI slop asshole immediately goes "Yet you are using power yourself to type this message. Curious. I am very intelligent."
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doshindude posted...
It's due for a crash soon. Nobody likes it anymore, and the trough of disillusionment/Gartner Hype Cycle is well past the peak.

AI is just NFTs in slow motion. It will crash/be gone within the next few years and we'll be on to the next nonsensical thing that burns down the amazon rainforest.


the thing with AI is this is what the rich and elite have been dreaming of for along time

they would rather destroy the entire economy than let this one go
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doshindude posted...
It's due for a crash soon. Nobody likes it anymore, and the trough of disillusionment/Gartner Hype Cycle is well past the peak.

AI is just NFTs in slow motion. It will crash/be gone within the next few years and we'll be on to the next nonsensical thing that burns down the amazon rainforest.

While I genuinely, sincerely hope you are correct. Hell, knowing it will crash soon would make me irrationally happy. That sounds like cope, considering the entire tech industry is destroying itself in preparation.

But maybe I should stay in school and once I have my fancy CS degree, AI may crash and jobs will open up and I may have a future that was worth living through all this bullshit over.
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Why don't they just move the data centers...to the arctic?
I assume it's for cooling? Maybe these data centers should be required to have large scale water storage that once filled, can be recycled and reused on site.

I wish I had walked in here and you were taking a dump on the couch, or doing homework. Anything would be better than that.
Hejiru posted...
Ok, I guess that makes sense, but then why do they need to keep using up so much per day? I mean, its not like the water goes bad. Couldnt they just cycle it to a tank to cool off and then reuse it? Are they really just wasting it when the water gets hot and then getting new water?

I'm guessing water evaporation? I don't know how liquid cooling works
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Better solution:
Give the water back to the people.
Have the tech bros and AI cultists spend all day blowing on the data centers to keep them cool.
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Seriously though, fuck AI, and fuck companies who force use of it as a default behavior. If I'm looking up something simple, I don't need AI wasting resources to give me a breakdown (probably wrong, too) of the subject-matter.
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RasterGraphic posted...
I guess there's going to be big money in desalination soon.

Hopefully. It just takes up a lot of electricity.
We really need to keep building more and more power generation
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TentacleDemon posted...
I assume it's for cooling? Maybe these data centers should be required to have large scale water storage that once filled, can be recycled and reused on site.
That's basically how it's already done. It's not exactly new, how do people think YouTube manages their ungodly amount of servers? Hundreds of trailer reuploads and 30 hour long music videos don't come without a cost but it's misleading to say that all the water they use goes away forever.

The problem isn't so much that data centers use a lot of water and electricity, water cycles back and electricity doesn't have to come from fossil fuels (although it usually does). The problem is using water and electricity faster than it can reasonably be provided to a region as well as the potential for further environmental contamination and damage. The other problem is if/when the AI bubble bursts what are they gonna do with these giant server farms filled with specialized future e-waste that can't really be used for much else.

If AI does one good thing it might be getting the US back on track on finding alternatives to fossil fuels. I still say it's a bit too late for nuclear and train derailments being a thing make me really uneasy about it regardless but at this point beggars can't be choosers.
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Board_hunter567 posted...
If AI does one good thing it might be getting the US back on track on finding alternatives to fossil fuels.
It is actively doing the opposite!
https://apnews.com/article/technology-ai-natural-gas-electricity-pennsylvania-450534992fab8dd3527b64b92614259e
https://fortune.com/article/coal-fired-power-plants-popular-again-ai-cloud-energy-demands/
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emblem-man posted...
Hopefully. It just takes up a lot of electricity.
We really need to keep building more and more power generation
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LightningAce11 posted...
Why does it seem like techbros never push anything good

Their name should imply something

As much as technology is ingrained into society and as much as we like to hold hands with it, its not something we have to have

But its told to us that, yeah, we have to have it
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