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Current Events » It's official. FFT The Ivalice Chronicles will not have WotL content
I can do without new party members, but I wanted the expanded story scenes, sidequests, and other things from WOTL. So, I won't be buying this because my initial enthusiasm has been thoroughly doused in ice water.
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Ridiculous. Why is it so hard for them to just make a definitive version of the game with a rerelease? Leaving the GBA content out of the pixel remasters was a baffling move too.
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It's official. I'm not picking it up.
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Dark_twisted posted...
It's official. I'm not picking it up.
Not picking up one of the best games ever because its missing two worthless jobs, two overpowered characters that are just ads for other games, and like two extra fights

its not a big deal
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Not picking up one of the best games ever
Who said that he doesnt own it already?

Thats the thing. If people own WotL, of course theyre not happy with TIC having less content.

Such an easily avoidable mistake on SEs part.
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I never cared for wotl anyway like the gba versions I don't think they added anything of real significance.
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Not picking up one of the best games ever because its missing two worthless jobs, two overpowered characters that are just ads for other games, and like two extra fights

its not a big deal
$50 for a nearly 3 decade old game is already enough of a dealbreaker tbh
Its gonna be worth picking up even if you own the original just because of the addition of voice acting

I'd like to have the extra WotL stuff but aside from one of the extra fights, none of it really fit in with the original game and it all just felt like obvious extras
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Its gonna be worth picking up even if you own the original just because of the addition of voice acting

I'd like to have the extra WotL stuff but aside from one of the extra fights, none of it really fit in with the original game and it all just felt like obvious extras

And better translation
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Its gonna be worth picking up even if you own the original just because of the addition of voice acting

I'd like to have the extra WotL stuff but aside from one of the extra fights, none of it really fit in with the original game and it all just felt like obvious extras

But is it worth $50 if you already own WotL? I'd say no.
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This edition will have a superior UI, the ability to take back your movement(!), voice acting, and a yet-to-be detailed Hard Mode which I can only hope has enemies with significantly harder loadouts like more skills known and RSM worth a damn (Monks with Weapon Guard (Parry) is hilariously sad, but enemies with access to Holy and significantly more Ninjas would be a good thing).

Much like Tactics Ogre, it'll go on sale to $30 in less than a year after release, if you're a gil miser.
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It sucks but the rebalanced gameplay, multiple difficulty modes, bug fixes, and the ability to get Cloud earlier (though how much earlier they haven't said) with the HD enhanced stuff... I think I'll still be getting this.

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Kain_Highwind posted...
its missing two worthless jobs,

Dark Knight is literally second best job in the game
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Dark Knight is literally second best job in the game
Its op but by the time you unlock it, you're more than done with teh game
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Its op but by the time you unlock it, you're more than done with teh game

Not really I had it unlocked in act 2. Using toad jp grinding.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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That's a wayyyyyy overleveled thing

iirc its unlocked when you master essentially every physical job except for archer
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kain why are you shilling so hard for a over priced remaster thats offering less content

3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
cause the content is thrown together and completely inessential to the game and it'd be nice to have it but I'd take a fixed translation and voice acting balanced difficulty over Luso from FFTA2
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Not really I had it unlocked in act 2. Using toad jp grinding.
"Hah while you peasants were playing the game I farmed the same map for 20+ hours!"
you make it sound like both cant be done
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Kain_Highwind posted...
That's a wayyyyyy overleveled thing

iirc its unlocked when you master essentially every physical job except for archer

No you only have to master Knight & Black Mage. Just need level 8 on 4 other specific jobs, and also kill 20 human units. It's slightly harder to unlock than calculator mostly because of the 20 unit requirement.
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Error1355 posted...
As someone who has never played FFT but always wanted to, I'll still get this version though.

How much would I be missing though?

though
If you've never played it, any version of the game will suffice, so I think you're good. The extra stuff in WotL are fun trinkets, but the core game itself is just one of those that you have to try at some point no matter what.
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BlackScythe0 posted...
"Hah while you peasants were playing the game I farmed the same map for 20+ hours!"

Yeah man setting the game to auto battle is so time consuming.
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AceMos posted...
they want 50 bucks for this

with a name like CHRONICLES youd think they would include the entire series

but no just the first game and the original PS1 version at that


Agree. They want 49.99 for a DEMAKE of a psp game which I can buy on my phone app store for 15 bucks or less.
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Not surprised I'll just wait for the complete version instead
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VeggetaX posted...
We're getting pre-order items and Deluxe Version items so it's a bit different with this game. Either way I'm sure the modding scene will fix this for us. PC Master Race wins again.
Did they say what those items are? It could just be early access to items you get later anyway.
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Agree. They want 49.99 for a DEMAKE of a psp game which I can buy on my phone app store for 15 bucks or less.

I have it on my phone, but I prefer it on a console tbqh.
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Aztex posted...
Not surprised I'll just wait for the complete version instead
there won't be a complete collection if the pixel remasters are any indication
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which are the best ways to play 1-6 btw and they didn't have this missing content discourse even though they're missing things too
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Kain_Highwind posted...
which are the best ways to play 1-6 btw and they didn't have this missing content discourse even though they're missing things too

yes they DID have the missing content discourse

it was the big critique of the games in fact

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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Agree. They want 49.99 for a DEMAKE of a psp game which I can buy on my phone app store for 15 bucks or less.
They'll probably de list that version so people will have to buy the new one.
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AceMos posted...
yes they DID have the missing content discourse

it was the big critique of the games in fact
I mean yeah it was noted out but it seems like people are making FFT more of a bigger deal than they did with those
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AceMos posted...
they want 50 bucks for this

with a name like CHRONICLES youd think they would include the entire series

Good point there. They should have bundled in the GBA games and even then like $30 for the base version.

I didn't even play WOTL and don't care at all about the extra jobs but side missions would have been nice.

I still shelled out for the deluxe version because idc
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Kain_Highwind posted...
I mean yeah it was noted out but it seems like people are making FFT more of a bigger deal than they did with those
Are they? Or is it just CE being CE? That where you are happens to be the grand sum of most of the complaining versus everywhere else where no one actually cares. And in that inverse, the place where no one actually cared about 1-6's pixel remasters in order to complain versus the grand whole complaining more.
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
They'll probably de list that version so people will have to buy the new one.
I don't understand this strategy tbh.

"I didn't want to buy this game for $15 for the last thirty years, but now that I can't anymore, I want to buy it for $50 instead"

Can you tell me who said that quote? Because I cannot find anyone.

But for whatever reason, all the publishers just assume this is the world's most costly loophole.
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Kain_Highwind posted...
I mean yeah it was noted out but it seems like people are making FFT more of a bigger deal than they did with those
It should be more of a bigger deal because they're still fucking up after all these years.
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Quezovercoatl posted...
There's a new customer born every day. Not everyone was thinking about it every day for 30 years.
Well, I don't buy a lot of games that are 30 years older than me, but if that's what they wanna do, more power to them I guess.
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i wish SE could give us stuff like Final Fantasy Renaissance

its a fan remake of FF1 that adds a TON of new jobs and special abilities
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I roll my eyes at this not because the content was great but because it means there's still no "definitive" edition of the game. Removing content like this, even if it was trivial, is an unneeded step that makes this version of the game less valuable than it could be because it can no longer replace all versions. And yet they continue to do it, over and over again.

It's definitely moved to an "on sale" buy from me for this. And if there's not much to those new conversations or other content, it might be a full on pass.
Tsukasa1891 posted...
Did they say what those items are? It could just be early access to items you get later anyway.
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Anyone who buys that deluxe edition is part of the problem
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It sucks but also not really a big deal to me let alone a deal breaker for purchasing this. Felt the same way about the pixel remasters.
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Isn't the collector thingy like 250 bucks?

The game releases in September at $50, so it will definitely be $35- $40 by Black Friday. If they come out with DLC, use that to offset it. At least that's what I'd do if I didn't already have FFT on PS3

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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
I don't understand this strategy tbh.

"I didn't want to buy this game for $15 for the last thirty years, but now that I can't anymore, I want to buy it for $50 instead"

Can you tell me who said that quote? Because I cannot find anyone.

But for whatever reason, all the publishers just assume this is the world's most costly loophole.
It's to prevent people who weren't aware of the games existence but became interested after learning about it from buying the cheaper version over the new more expensive one.
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
It's to prevent people who weren't aware of the games existence but became interested after learning about it from buying the cheaper version over the new more expensive one.
Even I don't live so far under a rock that I've never heard of FFT.

But ok I guess.
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Kain_Highwind posted...
I mean yeah it was noted out but it seems like people are making FFT more of a bigger deal than they did with those
I don't agree - there was quite a bit of grumbling with the pixel remastered. Unlike the FF 1-6, though, the added content in FFT was pretty good.

Not a big deal for me though. Balthier was crazy OP iirc, and the new jobs were mostly late game gimmicks imo. I think there are a lot of extra side fights that will be missing, but not a huge deal.
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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
Even I don't live so far under a rock that I've never heard of FFT.

But ok I guess.
There are literally adults born after the release of the PS3

A while lot of people have never heard of final fantasy tactics and some of them probably played FF16 before playing any others.
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